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So yea I have a vibrant and I'm about to unlock it to att, yes I know "why didn't you just get the captivate" well the captivate (vibrant for att) has an ugly design and att blocks non market apps so yea.
My question is because I heard that someone had 3g from att on the vibrant, is this possible,?
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An unlocked Vibrant will get 3G service on some of ATTs older 3G towers. They are slowly phasing them out though. So if you happen to be in an area that uses the old towers your will get 3G but eventually those towers will be converted and you will lose 3G forever.
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I had called att and asked if they had maps to show 850 vs 1900 but they could only show coverage of 3g just if they had it or not.
I don't know how long before they phase out 1900 but I don't think they're just going to take it down until they've added enough new towers to cover / overlap what they already have. Plus they should be working on lte rolling out next year.
I have vibrant with 3g on att. Speeds seem decent - getting about 1800 kbps down and 1600 kbps up.
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Well I better hurry
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I am currently a Sprint customer, and while I am not very happy with their coverage, the rumor is they are building LTE all over the Tampa Bay area, and I should be covered by their LTE by year end (if the rumored schedule is true).
I am considering going to AT&T who does NOT have LTE in my area north of Tampa, BUT they have the HSPA+ in my area.
One of the things that AT&T always brags about is that you can do simultaneous data and voice with AT&T phones, but CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) cannot do that simultaneously. I heard that some CDMA phones have an additional antenna which will allow for simultaneous voice/data.
So here are my questions:
* Are my understanding of simultaneous voice/data limitations correct?
* Do we know if the Sprint variant of the Note 2 will support this?
All of the new cdma phones do voice and data including note 2 example the gs3 the evo lte and any new lte phone going forward
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I believe such is not the case with the iPhone 5 though lol
paul2834 said:
I believe such is not the case with the iPhone 5 though lol
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I don't consider the iphlub 5 a phone
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Can they do simuldata even if in 3G mode if there is no 4G/LTE availability?
From the initial FCC docs, it doesn't appear that this device will support SVDO for 3G/CDMA
Where north of Tampa are ya that doesn't have LTE? I'm north in NPR/Trinity and we have LTE from Tampa.
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erick161 said:
Where north of Tampa are ya that doesn't have LTE? I'm north in NPR/Trinity and we have LTE from Tampa.
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Ummmm, well, I didn't know that Sprint LTE was released ANYWHERE in Tampa yet. Wimax 4G works down there in NPR, but I am up north in the next county.
Milkman00 said:
Can they do simuldata even if in 3G mode if there is no 4G/LTE availability?
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Sure can. I do that often with my S3.
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Unfortunately Sprint's Note 2 will not have this ability... http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...note-2-big-enough-for-everything-except-svdo/
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Bummer
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Unfortunately Sprint's Note 2 will not have this ability
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That's a great article, what a bummer, I was so looking forward to this feature! I'm a realtor and constantly using navigation, or searching for an answer for someone while on the phone. Of course, if sprint had 4g in the 5th largest city of the USA, it wouldn't be a problem.
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That's a great article, what a bummer, I was so looking forward to this feature! I'm a realtor and constantly using navigation, or searching for an answer for someone while on the phone. Of course, if sprint had 4g in the 5th largest city of the USA, it wouldn't be a problem.
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Every Sprint tower (save for about 100) nationwide will be getting LTE in the next two years.
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Every Sprint tower (save for about 100) nationwide will be getting LTE in the next two years.
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eh... Perfect. This is probably going to be the kick I needed to go to AT&T. So sad...
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Ummmm, well, I didn't know that Sprint LTE was released ANYWHERE in Tampa yet. Wimax 4G works down there in NPR, but I am up north in the next county.
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...you said ATTs LTE wasn't available since you were north of Tampa. Thats what I was asking. Not about springs lack of LTE.
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...you said ATTs LTE wasn't available since you were north of Tampa. Thats what I was asking. Not about springs lack of LTE.
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Apologies.
AT&T doesn't have LTE up here no, BUT they have HSPA+ 4G, which is better than the 3G I got with Sprint.
It appears if I want SVDO I will have to go AT&T, or just pray Sprint comes through with their LTE expansion up here...........
I want to get a Nexus 4 but am curious to see if AT&T supports 21mbps HSPA+?
Yes.
crossover37 said:
I want to get a Nexus 4 but am curious to see if AT&T supports 21mbps HSPA+?
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It supports the 21mbps speeds of hspa just wont support there 4g LTE
Careful though... Just because at&t might offer it somewhere doesn't mean you'll have it in your area. I'm in the Chicagoland area, arguably one of the largest markets in this country, and all they offer here is hspa 15 because of their LTE focus. So you might not want to focus your decision on the fact that hspa 21+ is technically possible through at&t.
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If you have a choice, I'd go with T-Mobile. Their 3G is WAYYYY faster than ATT's 3g...
... at least here in california... i get like barely 1MB down IF IM LUCKY with ATT...
...when I throw my sisters T-Mobile SIM in my nexus,, its at least around 2-3 MB/sec!!
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If you have a choice, I'd go with T-Mobile. Their 3G is WAYYYY faster than ATT's 3g...
... at least here in california... i get like barely 1MB down IF IM LUCKY with ATT...
...when I throw my sisters T-Mobile SIM in my nexus,, its at least around 2-3 MB/sec!!
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Here in SoCal and I'm on AT&T and I average about 5-7Mbps, highest I've gotten is 10Mbps.
I get 12-18 down on Solavei which uses T-Mobile
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Yes. The LG Google Nexus 4 supports both HSPA+ 21/42 and compatible with AT&T.
Fastest I have seen on my phone with Att is 13.2mb/s
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Careful though... Just because at&t might offer it somewhere doesn't mean you'll have it in your area. I'm in the Chicagoland area, arguably one of the largest markets in this country, and all they offer here is hspa 15 because of their LTE focus. So you might not want to focus your decision on the fact that hspa 21+ is technically possible through at&t.
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The numbers don't work like that. HSPA:+15 is either 21mbps or 42mbps. The 15 is not the Mbps cap of the network.
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joshnichols189 said:
The numbers don't work like that. HSPA:+15 is either 21mbps or 42mbps. The 15 is not the Mbps cap of the network.
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Well, according to this link, even at&t refers to the number of the hspa+ revision as it's top speed, so if you could show me something explaining why that's not correct, they would be great.
http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/att-21-mbps-hspa-available-80-3g-footprint/2010-11-18
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where I live we don't have 3g or 4g on t-mobile. we are forced to go with at&t or straight talk.
Just to show tmobile speeds here in metro Detroit
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Well, according to this link, even at&t refers to the number of the hspa+ revision as it's top speed, so if you could show me something explaining why that's not correct, they would be great.
http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/att-21-mbps-hspa-available-80-3g-footprint/2010-11-18
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joshnichols189 is correct. Here is why:
HSPA-15 on your phone refers to Network type, not the max download rate. See the codes posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029722
Download max on HSPA-15 (HSPA+ or 4G) are 42.2, 21.1, and 14.0
Download max on HSPA-10 (HSPA or 3G) is 7.2
For more on the true max speed, see this Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
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Here in SoCal and I'm on AT&T and I average about 5-7Mbps, highest I've gotten is 10Mbps.
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b vs B. If both of you stayed true to b = bit and B = byte, the highest you've ever gotten was only 1.25MB/s.
can anyone confirm all the posts online are not needed to get hspa+ on ATT with nexus 4? links like below say you need to have ATT do something with a fake IMEI since it couldnt detect mine and then set custom APN settings. My status bar says H but about this phone says HSPA+:15 for mobile network type. My phone when simw as inserted automatically set wap.cingular and all that and when i use speedtest.net app the ping comes back but fails to test the up and down speed. Any help is appreciated, i figure they people on this forum would know best.
PS. it wont let me post links until 10 posts. pm for links if needed.
Currently thinking of leaving Verizon. I decided to give T-Mobile/metropcs a try... I can honestly say that I will be leaving sooner than later. Even though I can't access their LTE network their h+ 42.2 network is plenty fast... And at only $40 unlimited everything I don't think I can pass this deal up.
Anyone else out there on another carrier besides Verizon? What plan and how much does it cost... Verizon is killing my pockets... since my wife stopped working to stay home with the kids, looking for ways to save on every bill...
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Sounds like a smart plan. I am on VZW and have great LTE unlimited coverage on several lines . Can't justify switching. My bill is nasty....like a $350/month nasty after 30% service discount.
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squeeze said:
Sounds like a smart plan. I am on VZW and have great LTE unlimited coverage on several lines . Can't justify switching. My bill is nasty....like a $350/month nasty after 30% service discount.
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I have great LTE coverage too. That's what has me so hesitant. But I guess some sacrifices have to be made....
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craigbailey1986 said:
I have great LTE coverage too. That's what has me so hesitant. But I guess some sacrifices have to be made....
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat - no T-Mobile LTE, but do get HSPA+. I'm on the prepaid $30 100min/Unlimited Text+Data for T-Mobile. Unfortunately T-Mo coverage here is only decent along major roads, and the H+ speeds are not very consistent block-to-block. I'm probably going to just cancel the prepaid service since I only get Edge at my desk at work, which doesn't help me conserve data usage on my Verizon device, which was my intention.
My H+ speeds have ranged from about 400kbps all the way to 12mbps... potentially faster than my Verizon speeds on LTE. Just upsetting that the service is still too spotty to use it as my primary carrier.
I am here in ga and it is pretty good... Not Verizon good but good none the less... I just don't know what am going to do when I leave Verizon. Their service is top notch...
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craigbailey1986 said:
I am here in ga and it is pretty good... Not Verizon good but good none the less... I just don't know what am going to do when I leave Verizon. Their service is top notch...
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Well like you said, sometimes you have to make sacrifices. Do you have unlimited on Verizon? How much data do you need? I know that T-Mobile will give you unlimited but I'm thinking that if you don't need unlimited, you could switch to T-Mobile for now and then switch back to Verizon later on when finances are a bit more stable.
As long as T-Mobile serves your immediate needs, then it should be fine.
Yeah don't need unlimited. Its just a means to help get the bills lower. I just hate to give up Verizon. If I want to upgrade I will be forced to pay full price. But I also wanted the nexus 5 so I give it's a win win
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Yeah don't need unlimited. Its just a means to help get the bills lower. I just hate to give up Verizon. If I want to upgrade I will be forced to pay full price. But I also wanted the nexus 5 so I give it's a win win
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I had trouble dropping my Sprint SERO line, but hopping on someone's Share Everything plan on Verizon was really the cheaper way to go. I liked only paying $50 for unlimited LTE, but it was just an extra bill that wasn't necessary (as I was on both Sprint and Verizon at that point).
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I had trouble dropping my Sprint SERO line, but hopping on someone's Share Everything plan on Verizon was really the cheaper way to go. I liked only paying $50 for unlimited LTE, but it was just an extra bill that wasn't necessary (as I was on both Sprint and Verizon at that point).
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Yeah at this point I am paying 180 for 2 lines and I could save about 80 if we went to T-Mobile. But there service is not worth the savings I don't think.
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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I believe it does have a 1700/2100 bands supported (per GSM Arena), and I do not think I'm in a re-farmed 1900 area. I had a T-Mobile SIM in a Sprint HTC One, DNA, and Lumia 822 and none were pulling in H+, just Edge or 3G.
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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The Maxx will not pick up 1700/2100 areas. Only the refarmed 1900. However it does support lte band 4 which will probably have its switch thrown later when vzw starts using their aws spectrum. It's not active now as far as I can tell because I can't get any better than H+ in Chicago which is entirely refarmed tmo and att doesn't trigger it either. My inkling is that vzw has that part of the radio turned off at the moment until they launch that portion of the network.
Image attached shows what the phone does support with the VZW radios.
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This is what is capable as per Wiki's snapdragon thread. Although the chip is advertised as Motorola x8, after some digging I found the actual model number. It's msm8960DT
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This is what is capable as per Wiki's snapdragon thread. Although the chip is advertised as Motorola x8, after some digging I found the actual model number. It's msm8960DT
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Just because the chip supports it doesn't mean that it's active or usable. Look at the nexus and its lte if you need an example. My post above yours show what moto intends to allow for this device. It "could" support more but the bands aren't active.
What I'm curious about is if we can get this ***** unlocked... Can we pull the radio files from the Tmobile X to unlock the 1700/2100 and AWS LTE bands (which the phone does support but again, are inactive at the moment). We would lose the cdma bands but for the people switching to tmo... I don't think they'd care.
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You learn something new every day. Lol
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I have one in Canada and we have band 4 LTE on rogers and bell. I'm unable to get LTE. I'm hoping with root and radio flash or a Verizon update it can get lte working.
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If you go to T-Mobile as your sole provider, be prepared to say goodbye to any signal at all inside of office buildings, malls, warehouses, grocery stores, etc
I like my T-Mobile HTC One, but the amount of places in Los Angeles that are dead zones is very frustrating.
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will the Verizon maxx work on gsm, or you have to unlock it?
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will the Verizon maxx work on gsm, or you have to unlock it?
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It is unlocked out of the box for GSM networks - just no LTE.
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It is unlocked out of the box for GSM networks - just no LTE.
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When vzw does their aws rollout I expect that a software update will roll out with it and this will change. For now it is HSPA+ only.
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I have T-Mobile and I live in Louisville Kentucky, today I went outside and realized that I had 4G LTE! I'm so excited! I ran a speedtest and I'm getting 15mbps on average and before LTE I averaged 5mbps, 3x faster and iam very happy with it
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That's awesome glad to hear your getting the most out of your device
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shehade08 said:
I have T-Mobile and I live in Louisville Kentucky, today I went outside and realized that I had 4G LTE! I'm so excited! I ran a speedtest and I'm getting 15mbps on average and before LTE I averaged 5mbps, 3x faster and iam very happy with it
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Bye Bye to good battery life! Its probably a weak/semi-weak LTE signal considering its Kentucky and your phone will be giving more battery power to connect to it.
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Bye Bye to good battery life! Its probably a weak/semi-weak LTE signal considering its Kentucky and your phone will be giving more battery power to connect to it.
Cheers.
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my battery improved on 4g, but maybe this was in part because I had lte active, the network was up but I didn't have permission to access it (I had to ask in the shop to activate it for me)
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I have T-Mobile and I live in Louisville Kentucky, today I went outside and realized that I had 4G LTE! I'm so excited! I ran a speedtest and I'm getting 15mbps on average and before LTE I averaged 5mbps, 3x faster and iam very happy with it
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I have tmobile LTE in only 1 room of my entire house. I dont get it.
They just expanded it in the Jersey Shore.
shehade08 said:
I have T-Mobile and I live in Louisville Kentucky, today I went outside and realized that I had 4G LTE! I'm so excited! I ran a speedtest and I'm getting 15mbps on average and before LTE I averaged 5mbps, 3x faster and iam very happy with it
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wait is this on the tmo, the att or the unlocked european htc one?
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wait is this on the tmo, the att or the unlocked european htc one?
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Tmo HTC one
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At&t finally added it to my area. Joplin MO. Glad to see their expanding.
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I have tmobile LTE in only 1 room of my entire house. I dont get it.
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They just don't have all the sites with LTE yet. It was the same way here when they launched it and now i have 3-4 bars LTE in my place (But still only 1 bar HSPA+. figure that)
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They just don't have all the sites with LTE yet. It was the same way here when they launched it and now i have 3-4 bars LTE in my place (But still only 1 bar HSPA+. figure that)
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Yeah I know. Surprising that where I live Tmobile gets service, while ATT doesn't.
That's awesome! I'm with solavei and I can't wait u til T-Mobile let's the smaller companies use LTE. But I'm it complaining much. It's mid here in jersey and I'm about to pull 15Mbps down and 2 up on hspa+. But Lte wouldn't hurt. And for those that are getting better signal with Lte. I think I read an article stating that the coverage will be superior than that of hspa+ even though frequencies are the same. Idk the validity on that though.
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