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Doesn't SetCPU overclocks our device? I heard constantly overclocking your device will kill it less in a year. Is this true?
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HeavyComponent said:
Doesn't SetCPU overclocks our device? I heard constantly overclocking your device will kill it less in a year. Is this true?
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I used setcpu on my g1 (overclocked from 384mhz to 528mhz) for almost the whole time i had it and it didnt do any damage. The overclocking on snapdragons is more of a wait and see as no one has overclocked a snapdragon for that long but its HIGHLY unlikely that it will kill your cpu that quickly (ive been overclocking devices for years and never seen it happen). Leo users dont need to worry about overclocking with setcpu as it hasn't been enabled in the kernel we are using so the only thing setcpu is good for is underclocking and setting profiles.
So once it is enabled in our Kernel that's when we should be worried? What's the worse that can happen?
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HeavyComponent said:
So once it is enabled in our Kernel that's when we should be worried? What's the worse that can happen?
Thanks for the reply.
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I dont think we should, people on the n1 have been doing it for months and i havent seen any posts of things going wrong and even if it is enabled in the kernel you can choose weather to use it or not via apps like set cpu
JJbdoggg said:
I dont think we should, people on the n1 have been doing it for months and i havent seen any posts of things going wrong and even if it is enabled in the kernel you can choose weather to use it or not via apps like set cpu
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It will cause lower battery life!
hazard99 said:
It will cause lower battery life!
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if you choose to use it.
JJbdoggg said:
if you choose to use it.
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I know I use it to underclock. I was just saying. I actually use it as a means of making the battery last. and also the reaction time at which the cpu scales.
JJbdoggg said:
I used setcpu on my g1 (overclocked from 384mhz to 528mhz) for almost the whole time i had it and it didnt do any damage. The overclocking on snapdragons is more of a wait and see as no one has overclocked a snapdragon for that long but its HIGHLY unlikely that it will kill your cpu that quickly (ive been overclocking devices for years and never seen it happen). Leo users dont need to worry about overclocking with setcpu as it hasn't been enabled in the kernel we are using so the only thing setcpu is good for is underclocking and setting profiles.
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So if I understand this correctly, setcpu does nothing to improve performance as far as Device speed?
dbiggss said:
So if I understand this correctly, setcpu does nothing to improve performance as far as Device speed?
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A faster cpu is generally a speed increase and at certain points the gains are null. so its usually a small mhz boost.
dbiggss said:
So if I understand this correctly, setcpu does nothing to improve performance as far as Device speed?
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it does, keeping the device at 1ghz (998mhz in our case) at all times will provide better performance than scaling from 245mhz to 1ghz. read here for more info http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/
hazard99 said:
I know I use it to underclock. I was just saying. I actually use it as a means of making the battery last. and also the reaction time at which the cpu scales.
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i use it for those reasons too
I'm running JAC's oc/uv kernel and was wondering what settings in SetCPU does everyone use? So post yours that you feel work best.
1200max 200min, conservative and dont set on boot
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Bionix is so fast, I'm always underclocking and it still performs amazing. 100 min 800 max
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nick1217 said:
1200max 200min, conservative and dont set on boot
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........+1
nick1217 said:
1200max 200min, conservative and dont set on boot
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TopShelf10 said:
........+1
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Why aren't you running on boot? I have it checked and it's not causing any problems.
gravis86 said:
Why aren't you running on boot? I have it checked and it's not causing any problems.
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A lot of people are having an issue with set on boot where if they reboot setcpu auto resets it self and dangerously UNDERclocks the cpu to the point where it will crash if you dont catch it. unchecking "set on boot" prevents this, yet somehow also preserves your settings upon a reboot. so essentially, at least for people with this problem, "set on boot" is not only useless, but damaging as well
TopShelf10 said:
A lot of people are having an issue with set on boot where if they reboot setcpu auto resets it self and dangerously UNDERclocks the cpu to the point where it will crash if you dont catch it. unchecking "set on boot" prevents this, yet somehow also preserves your settings upon a reboot. so essentially, at least for people with this problem, "set on boot" is not only useless, but damaging as well
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Weird, I've never set on boot, yet my settings change everytime I boot, which is how I expected it to be...
cthach11 said:
Bionix is so fast, I'm always underclocking and it still performs amazing. 100 min 800 max
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I'll try that out. What about profiles. What profiles do you have set? Such as for screen off, what settings do you guys use.
Recommended for Bionix is leave it as Conservative...
1k/200
Conservative
Master Rom 2.2 Froyo Edition..
I don't reccomend using profiles either as they make some peoples phone's crash but if you were to use profiles..
screen off should be 200min and i used 600max just to make sure there was no lag when unlocking the screen
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I'll try that out. What about profiles. What profiles do you have set? Such as for screen off, what settings do you guys use.
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I would not stray from the following (assuming you have an oc kernel like JACs or KK):
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200 / 1200
Conservative
Do not check set on boot
Do not set profiles
This is optimal until SetCPU gets an update.
But in JAC's kernel, doesn't it say that the other cpu governors work? Or is it setcpu's fault?
Does using SetCPU shorten the life of the phone? Having it run outside of what was set by the factory settings? Just trying to figure out if I'm in danger of anything here..thanks.
Did a video and posted steps, you can find this at
http://hemorrdroids.net/overclocking-your-desire-z/
Cheers,
JD
Thanks JD, grat job ...first thing I'll do as soon as I get mine!
Just one question...if I set VISIONary to run on boot, and SetCPU as well, will the overclock be set automatically?
After I rooted with VISIONary, Rootexplorer says I dont have root, is this normal?
schriss said:
After I rooted with VISIONary, Rootexplorer says I dont have root, is this normal?
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I don't use root explorer mate so i wouldn't know;(
If you follow my steps to the ticket you will not go far wrong
just adb push vision_oc.ko /data/local/
JD
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After I rooted with VISIONary, Rootexplorer says I dont have root, is this normal?
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OK adb worked, but insmod says (operation not permitted). I think I don't root properly. Nobody says if I need to connect usb cable to PC before VISIONary runs. It says device is rooted, but no other applications can get root.
EDIT: I had Superuser Permissions application installed. Removing, restarting, rerooting helped, I now get prompt to allow root!
Now insmod says (file exists). Maybe because SetCPU is already installed. But when launched it shows 1017MHz, which I guess is still nice ;-) Will google how to change this to higher.
Edit: solution for (file already exists" message is to do this first:
rmmod vision_oc.ko
then:
insmod /data/local/vision_oc.ko pll2_l_val=70
schriss said:
OK adb worked, but insmod says (operation not permitted). I think I don't root properly. Nobody says if I need to connect usb cable to PC before VISIONary runs. It says device is rooted, but no other applications can get root.
EDIT: I had Superuser Permissions application installed. Removing, restarting, rerooting helped, I now get prompt to allow root!
Now insmod says (file exists). Maybe because SetCPU is already installed. But when launched it shows 1017MHz, which I guess is still nice ;-) Will google how to change this to higher.
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its because you have not put in the var=70 yet
insmod /data/local/vision_oc.ko pll2_l_var=70
this will give you 1.34ghz
dont forget to put the setcpu autodetect on, or your overclock will revert back to 806mhz;(
follow my step by step pal
JD
After you follow the procedure for the first time, if you set both apps (visionary and setcpu) to set on boot will it work correctly at reboot?
What are the disadvantages of overclocking? I presume lower battery life?
wrapper said:
What are the disadvantages of overclocking? I presume lower battery life?
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G2 forums are reporting that the impact on battery life is unnoticeable (in fact, with the usual methods of underclocking the CPU when the screen is off and such, battery life is actually longer)
JupiterDroid said:
its because you have not put in the var=70 yet
insmod /data/local/vision_oc.ko pll2_l_var=70
this will give you 1.34ghz
dont forget to put the setcpu autodetect on, or your overclock will revert back to 806mhz;(
follow my step by step pal
JD
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my oc has reverted to default. I may have done wrong, how do I get the oc settings to stick - again?
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What are the disadvantages of overclocking? I presume lower battery life?
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Wont make that big a difference.
With SetCPU you can set the settings to lower your speed when screen off so it's not always running at 1.3 or 1.4 or whatever GHz.
I added the following settings to my SetCPU:
- If screen off MAX speed 700 Mhz/Min Speed 300 Mhz
- If CPU reaches 37 Degrees Celcius Max Speed 700 Mhz/Min Speed 300 Mhz
Phone is definetly faster. At 1.4 GHz quadrant scored 2236 last night up from 1600ish before OC.
LickTheEnvelope said:
Wont make that big a difference.
With SetCPU you can set the settings to lower your speed when screen off so it's not always running at 1.3 or 1.4 or whatever GHz.
I added the following settings to my SetCPU:
- If screen off MAX speed 700 Mhz/Min Speed 300 Mhz
- If CPU reaches 37 Degrees Celcius Max Speed 700 Mhz/Min Speed 300 Mhz
Phone is definetly faster. At 1.4 GHz quadrant scored 2236 last night up from 1600ish before OC.
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what was the default setting ?? (min/max when screen off)
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After restart, overclock is gone. I did have set on boot enabled.
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After restart, overclock is gone. I did have set on boot enabled.
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You have to start again after boot
with the reverting to 800mhz you need to set autodetect speeds in set cpu, follow the step by step to the letter mate
JD
LickTheEnvelope said:
Wont make that big a difference.
With SetCPU you can set the settings to lower your speed when screen off so it's not always running at 1.3 or 1.4 or whatever GHz.
I added the following settings to my SetCPU:
- If screen off MAX speed 700 Mhz/Min Speed 300 Mhz
- If CPU reaches 37 Degrees Celcius Max Speed 700 Mhz/Min Speed 300 Mhz
Phone is definetly faster. At 1.4 GHz quadrant scored 2236 last night up from 1600ish before OC.
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I nailed a 2400 last night @1.42ghz, may even try 1.5, lol
Hey JupiterDroid - thanks for the instructions on this. Quite enjoying my Desire Z!
JupiterDroid said:
I nailed a 2400 last night @1.42ghz, may even try 1.5, lol
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How do you use the config tools with the Setcpu app?
Thinking about "Profiles" & "Advance".
JupiterDroid said:
Did a video and posted steps, you can find this at
http://hemorrdroids.net/overclocking-your-desire-z/
Cheers,
JD
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This is great, thanks!
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JupiterDroid said:
I nailed a 2400 last night @1.42ghz, may even try 1.5, lol
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Can someone please help? How do I keep the OC at the max of 1344 on boot? Do I need to chnage anything under "Scalling"? Options are, default "ondemand", then "userspace" and "performance".
Thanks.
YOSEFE said:
Can someone please help? How do I keep the OC at the max of 1344 on boot? Do I need to chnage anything under "Scalling"? Options are, default "ondemand", then "userspace" and "performance".
Thanks.
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Never mind, I figured it out.
how do I overclock my vibrant safely without destroying it??
Terrance31 said:
how do I overclock my vibrant safely without destroying it??
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Try installing an overstock kernel, like Eugene373's Deadhorse Kernel, then you can download One Click Lag Fix from the market.
Just install a kernel that has oc capabilities and use set CPU to adjust the frequencies
Terrance31 said:
how do I overclock my vibrant safely without destroying it??
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I have overstock 2.2 with minimum at 400mhz and used spare parts to set windows to fast. This thing HAULS ASS!
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If he asks how to install an OC kernal I'm reporting this thread to be closed.
LOL
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after you have the oc kernel installed go into set cpu and set an audible alarm and for when your temp goes above 115 Fahrenheit, in that profile have it drop your clock speed down to 1000 or 800 to help your phone cool off before reactivating the full oc. Ive never had any problems with the cpu getting to hot oc'd to 1.2 thats not to say you wont.
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I don't think that overclocking and not destroying can be done at the same time.
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Terrance31 said:
how do I overclock my vibrant safely without destroying it??
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Flash it, set clock speed with setcpu or voltage control, cross your fingers and hope for the best.
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All you need is a kernel that supports OC ie. (DoW, Tigersblood, Overstock, Dragon) you should be golden but double check compatibility with whatever ROM ur running.
I use "set cpu" to torque it up to 1.2(or whatever the kernel OC's to) Then i use "SystemPanel Lite" to check and make sure its actually OCing. In the system app it has a CPU Clock in the top right corner which monitors ur current cpu. When the system app opens it has a list of active applications i simply move the list up and down repeatedly really fast and watch the "CPU Clock" if it maxes out at 1.2 or whatever its good to go. I remember one time(cant remember what kernel)but set cpu showed 1.2 or 1.4 and even in system CPU info it showed OCed but if you did like i just described the CPU Clock never went above 1000Mhz. Like it was just showing as OC even tho it really wasn't it was really weird the clock would max out at 1000Mhz with dead space above it like it could go over but never would.
shreddintyres said:
after you have the oc kernel installed go into set cpu and set an audible alarm and for when your temp goes above 115 Fahrenheit, in that profile have it drop your clock speed down to 1000 or 800 to help your phone cool off before reactivating the full oc. Ive never had any problems with the cpu getting to hot oc'd to 1.2 thats not to say you wont.
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i never knew you could set audible alarms(guess i never really looked into it) thanks for that! running DoW221 OC to 1.4 i used to see my temps hit 120-130 it would freak me out! but never had any problems except for batt life avg 6-7hrs.
Personally my best OC ROM/kernel setup to this date has been MALICE[EDT]+Tigersblood(any release) everything works and great batt life for a OC kernel
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If he asks how to install an OC kernal I'm reporting this thread to be closed.
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LOL
funny
Just make sure you backup before trying. Some Vibrants cannot handle overclocking (and there's no real way to know until you try). Mine is one of those, and if it can't handle it, an Odin to stock will be in your immediate future.
i just flashed 3.0.1.A.0.145 and the rooted system.img... something interesting... has anyone noticed min CPU freq has been lowered to 122Mhz (can be checked by SetCPU)... though 245Mhz is set as default using setcpu the user can select 122Mhz... i guess this means when there is low user activity the battery life should be more!
Such a simple concept. Great idea.
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That seems to be the trick behind "Better Battery performence" from their changelog.
haha, but this don't solve teh problem... battery should live longer when you exactly use the phone a lot
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haha, but this don't solve teh problem... battery should live longer when you exactly use the phone a lot
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actually if u go to see almost 60-80% of the time ur device will be in low battery state (screen off)... so i am sure this will make some difference...
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i just flashed 3.0.1.A.0.145 and the rooted system.img... something interesting... has anyone noticed min CPU freq has been lowered to 122Mhz (can be checked by SetCPU)... though 245Mhz is set as default using setcpu the user can select 122Mhz... i guess this means when there is low user activity the battery life should be more!
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ive just updated mine, but on 2.3.2 with setcpu i was running mine when the screen was turned off @ 122mhz!
but yes, the battery does last alot longer especially when you set the profiles up with priorities! i use mine alot in the morning and afternoon on the way home from work for music so during certain times ill setthe profile for the full 1ghz, then charging set a 1ghz but screen off it runs at 122mhz. ive noticed around 4 hours of increased battery life for my arc
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ive just updated mine, but on 2.3.2 with setcpu i was running mine when the screen was turned off @ 122mhz!
but yes, the battery does last alot longer especially when you set the profiles up with priorities! i use mine alot in the morning and afternoon on the way home from work for music so during certain times ill setthe profile for the full 1ghz, then charging set a 1ghz but screen off it runs at 122mhz. ive noticed around 4 hours of increased battery life for my arc
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oh even 2.3.2 had 122Mhz freq unlocked?
ah then i might have missed it... been testing a LOT of stuff related to X10 / Arc / Optimus One so might have got confused...
sorry!
yeah, least you know though
how reliable have you found setcpu? ive disabled the option "set at boot" and enabled all profiles but i find it not always kicking in when the profiles triggers are met and superuser access has been granted :s
av4tar said:
yeah, least you know though
how reliable have you found setcpu? ive disabled the option "set at boot" and enabled all profiles but i find it not always kicking in when the profiles triggers are met and superuser access has been granted :s
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havent really had any problems with setcpu before... which version are u using?
2.1.3 ..
THINK its sorted, rebooted and now its charging the profile of 1ghz/performance has kicked in!