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Hallo! i have heard allot of rumours that legend won't be getting froyo
is it true?
like you said they are rumours.
just wait. think there will soon be more info from htc when the first 2.2 phones are released.
the rumours are indeed very iffy
I honestly just posted an entire rant last night about this, allow me to quote myself...
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Well I've heard multiple times before this that customer service reps from htc have also confirmed the update to froyo for the legend. The most recent being an email from a customer service rep stating that the user fear not about his flash playing troubles because android 2.2 and incidentally flash 10.1 would be released for the htc legend within the next 2 weeks.
Follow this up by the recent release of flash 10.1 for android 2.2 and the release of the android 2.2 source code being released today the statement of "within the next 2 weeks" seem to be exactly what is happening. Not only is android 2.2 pretty much here but will be available sooner rather then later. To add further flame to the fire htc repeatedly said android 2.2 will be supported by almost all 2010 devices and with the desire being more widely available and more powerful it is more likely to be put in with definite android 2.2 compatible even though the desire and legend get almost always get updates at the same time.
The most likely reason the statement was pulled? Well it must simply be due to google not publishing the source code yet, thus letting people essentially know froyo is ready.
Htc most certainly can't pull the plug on 2.2 before google itself does. But! Now that it has published final froyo source code it is 99.9% done and is most likely waiting to be uploaded to the server.
My uneducated guess is that we'll see froyo on the legend by mid july at the latest.
Also not sure if anyone thought of this, but bell (and indirectly virgin mobile canada) are not stupid companies. They are introducing a new android phone and thus throwing massive amounts of ad $ and marketing into it, from both bell/virgin AND htc itself. Remember this is virgins FIRST android set and bells 4th or 5th, they would most likely have talked to htc to make sure the device is upgradeable to the newest android. They just started selling it, they aren't going to allow it to be out dated within the month its released! If the did it would be a waste on advertising and a waste of introducing a new phone.
That's just my 2 cents, but it seems very logical to me, how about you?
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Soo yeah that's my 2 cents, but it seems reasonable if you ask me.
Aaaand lastly, there's a guy currently working on porting froyo over and you can follow it at this thread in the forum, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709078
Just to throw some fuel in the fire, check out this link
The Flash Player 10.1 can be availed as a final production release for smartphones and tablets as soon as users can upgrade to Android 2.2 “Froyo”. Handsets which are anticipated to support “Froyo” and Flash Player 10.1 include Google Nexus One, HTC Evo, HTC Desire, HTC Incredible, Dell Streak, Samsung Galaxy S, DROID by Motorola, Motorola Milestone and more.
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Adobe didn't state HTC Legend on their supported devices list...could this mean no 2.2 for Legend? or Is HTC dumbing down 2.2 for Legend as they did with 2.1?
If 2.2 is dumbed down for Legend, it better have WiFi hotspot as a stock 2.2 rom would have, or I am going to be one pissed off long legged puerto rican!
Google IO is around the corner, there is rumours that google is going to announce a new nexus similar tablet.
should i wait till after google IO, if no new announcement then get a xoom or should i just get a XOOM anyway.
i really want a device that will be supported directly from google (ie, update straight from google).
any more rumours on the nexus line of tablet?
what do you guys think? will google announce a google tablet in the IO?
Buy the xoom from Costco you can return it within 60 days I believe and if something comes out you can get your refund no questions asked
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Buy the xoom from Costco you can return it within 60 days I believe and if something comes out you can get your refund no questions asked
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sorry to mention, i am actually from UK.. and they haven't actually got a fix release date, only news is i might get sent out this weekend. do i walk into the store to get one?
Yup and I believe you can also return them at any Costco but I would do some research
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i believe the xoom is the nexus of tablets. it was googles flagship device at their conference and it is the device that they always demo.
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Buy the xoom from Costco you can return it within 60 days I believe and if something comes out you can get your refund no questions asked
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To make it even better its 90 days not 60 days return policy.
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get the Xoom takes devices like 3 to 4 months to come out after those events. Then you'll say should Iget the nexus tablet or wait for the Xoom 2. What I'm saying is something better is always on the horizon.
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sorry to mention, i am actually from UK.. and they haven't actually got a fix release date, only news is i might get sent out this weekend. do i walk into the store to get one?
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Since you're in the UK, I would take a look at the Asus Transformer first, IMHO.
I was under the impression that the Xoom was gonna be Google's device....and also, on that note, since for now Google said no to company mods(ex. Touchwiz UX, etc.) then wouldn't every tablet running honeycomb get their updates right away?
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I was under the impression that the Xoom was gonna be Google's device....and also, on that note, since for now Google said no to company mods(ex. Touchwiz UX, etc.) then wouldn't every tablet running honeycomb get their updates right away?
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Apparently.
Either way, the Xoom is running stock 3.0, it will get updates just as fast as any other stock 3.0 tablet.
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Apparently.
Either way, the Xoom is running stock 3.0, it will get updates just as fast as any other stock 3.0 tablet.
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I thought so ty.
but from my understanding, although the Xoom suppose to be the nexus of tablet, but this still confuse me, the recent update doesn't come stright from google. it came from motorola.
which means if google decide to release a new patch, its down to motorola to deliver to us. and if they choose to delay it, it will be a bad thing.
for example, waiting for 2.3 on nexus one is long enough, forget about on the motorola droid or other HTC handsets.
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but from my understanding, although the Xoom suppose to be the nexus of tablet, but this still confuse me, the recent update doesn't come stright from google. it came from motorola.
which means if google decide to release a new patch, its down to motorola to deliver to us. and if they choose to delay it, it will be a bad thing.
for example, waiting for 2.3 on nexus one is long enough, forget about on the motorola droid or other HTC handsets.
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It was never advertised as such, but seeing as how everyone at Google working on android probably has a Xoom, I wouldn't worry about updates. The 3.0.1 update came through incredibly fast. Because the software is completely 100% stock and most android tablets are running the same tegra 2 platform, updates can happen much quicker.
Don't expect a nexus type tablet till after tablets become more popular, the same way it happened with phones. The xoom isn't the "official " nexus tab but it is the one considered it for now. You will not have to make this decision until next year, then we may see a nexus tablet or xoom2
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Consider our Xooms to be the equivalent of ADP1. If no one is familiar or hasn't been around Android for that long:
ADP1 or Android Dev Phone 1, was not a Nexus device, but was the Original Google Development device. The device was incredibly similar to a G1, only released earlier than the G1, with a lot more downloadable goodies than the G1 had initially(pre community development). But the only 2 big differences in the G1 and ADP1 where radio lock and boot loader.
2 years post G1/ADP1 we have the Nexus 1.
Anyone watch Google I/O live today? They said a rollout of Android 3.1 would start today. Anyone yet ?
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Swoops just seen its only for the zoom so far my bad.!
nop, 1st for Motorola Xoom 3G from Verizon, not even Xoom Wi-fi. Then other tablets.
For us to get 3.1 we have to ask acer, not google.
No and I doubt we will for a while. I hope Acer will build a good track record as to updating the software
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I would dearly love if google split the OS into 2 "layers" the device manufacturer's layer, more like direct hardware stuff. Along the lines of EFI/BIOS and space for them to add specialized apps and UI, then the core OS stuff that was generic across all google devices. USB device support, widget control etc. Imagine if you had to wait for Dell before you could upgrade your copy of internet explorer if you wanted to? Screw that. We need to demand more control over our devices.
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No and I doubt we will for a while. I hope Acer will build a good track record as to updating the software
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This is why I think I'm going to return my a500 and get a wifi xoom it'll get its updates straight from google where the Acer won't. I'm 100% unsure of acers track record of updates I have an atrix and motos updates for blur issues have been timely and good
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This is why I think I'm going to return my a500 and get a wifi xoom it'll get its updates straight from google where the Acer won't. I'm 100% unsure of acers track record of updates I have an atrix and motos updates for blur issues have been timely and good
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You could always return it for in store credit then buy another A500 to "renew" your return period, then have another ever how many days to take it back. I love having Premiere Silver at Best Buy. Means I spend too much there, but I get 45 days to return, never a restocking fee.
According to Google they are trying to sort out fragmentation with icecream samwich. How long will that be I'm the pipeline though :/
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Note to Acer: Unlock the bootloader and then we won't care how slow you are with updates. I'm really disappointed with this. I thought the whole point of Android was so we could get updates as soon as they are ready, not wait for the manufacturer to make them. Acer have my money now, what incentive do they have to update my device in a timely fashion. I might move mine on too.
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Note to Acer: Unlock the bootloader and then we won't care how slow you are with updates. I'm really disappointed with this. I thought the whole point of Android was so we could get updates as soon as they are ready, not wait for the manufacturer to make them. Acer have my money now, what incentive do they have to update my device in a timely fashion. I might move mine on too.
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Do we really need an unlocked bootloader to flash new software?
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Note to Acer: Unlock the bootloader and then we won't care how slow you are with updates. I'm really disappointed with this. I thought the whole point of Android was so we could get updates as soon as they are ready, not wait for the manufacturer to make them. Acer have my money now, what incentive do they have to update my device in a timely fashion. I might move mine on too.
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I just did and I don't feel bad. If Acer decides to unlock the bootloader before I am able to buy a transformed or galaxy 10.1, then I will give it another shot.
Being a D1 user, I need strong dev support with lots of roms and hacks. Unfortunately this may not be in the A500's future.
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My view on things is that eventually the A500 will receive a 3.1 upgrade and with the promised USB support for digital cameras and game controllers, the A500 is going to shine even brighter with its built in host usb port.
kebsood said:
Anyone watch Google I/O live today? They said a rollout of Android 3.1 would start today. Anyone yet ?
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Swoops just seen its only for the zoom so far my bad.!
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like really.
panda.bear said:
My view on things is that eventually the A500 will receive a 3.1 upgrade and with the promised USB support for digital cameras and game controllers, the A500 is going to shine even brighter with its built in host usb port.
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"Eventually" being the key word there. I'm impatient, I want the latest stuff as soon it is available.
According to their website, we should be seeing some kind of update by June 2011. They say it will support 1080p by June 2011 via software update.
http://screencast.com/t/TEhu7ewlsQ
Euclid's Brother said:
According to their website, we should be seeing some kind of update by June 2011. They say it will support 1080p by June 2011 via software update.
http://screencast.com/t/TEhu7ewlsQ
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Why not just link to the actual acer site. Much more reliable than another site claiming that they said it.
http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/series/iconia-tab-a
Dont think its a full official release to everyone. Because over at Moto Xoom side, select few individual received it. We will get update for acer too sooner or later.
Is someone able to adapt a version of the xoom update to update a rooted Iconia? That seems fairly doable because I think it may be minimum a month+ before after releases it. I called them last night and they had no official update or news all.
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Is someone able to adapt a version of the xoom update to update a rooted Iconia? That seems fairly doable because I think it may be minimum a month+ before after releases it. I called them last night and they had no official update or news all.
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Is your tablet not working? Is it usable for daily use--RIGHT now?
If yes, then why ask about it? D13 bricked his a500 by pushing the zoom 3.1 update.
-via Nook Color.
Why ask about it? That seems like a ridonk question to me.
Mouse support. Once I can use a mouse for rdp with my kybd I can completely ditch my laptop for college classwork.
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u will get ur update when it comes out asking just anoys people cause if not one person in this world has 3.1 on their iconia then it wont help u any way u asking just means u dont read things that have been covered already meaning ur breaking the rules. ur in college get used to reading. i had to read to get my bas and have to read more for my masters.
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I just got off the phone with Acer Tech Support (June 30, 2011).
Acer had been sending out an OTA firmware update, which some of you may have received. I've been waiting all month to get the firmware update and called to find out why it had not arrived.
I was told that Acer pulled the firmware update because it is getting ready to release the Honeycomb 3.1 update. They said the new firmware update will be packaged along with the new Honeycomb update, instead of being sent out separately.
So when can we expect to see the updates? I was told that Acer was waiting on Google to issue the Honeycomb update confused: Huh? I thought that 3.1 was already widely available). Acer said they expect to be sending the Honeycomb and firmware updates out within the first 10 days of July.
That's the latest from Acer.
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I just got off the phone with Acer Tech Support (June 30, 2011).
Acer had been sending out an OTA firmware update, which some of you may have received. I've been waiting all month to get the firmware update and called to find out why it had not arrived.
I was told that Acer pulled the firmware update because it is getting ready to release the Honeycomb 3.1 update. They said the new firmware update will be packaged along with the new Honeycomb update, instead of being sent out separately.
So when can we expect to see the updates? I was told that Acer was waiting on Google to issue the Honeycomb update confused: Huh? I thought that 3.1 was already widely available). Acer said they expect to be sending the Honeycomb and firmware updates out within the first 10 days of July.
That's the latest from Acer.
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In other words, late July....or maybe early August. I put the custom ROM of Taboony on mine and it has been flawless.
I have a hunch that if you try Monster Madness you'll notice it's less flawless.
I've been having glitches with all the other custom editions so far. Haven't tested Taboony yet though.
Bec07 said:
I have a hunch that if you try Monster Madness you'll notice it's less flawless.
I've been having glitches with all the other custom editions so far. Haven't tested Taboony yet though.
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Man you are really stuck on that monster madness trip I truly hope you find a rom that will play it soon!
It's not about the game. It's about faulty drivers that can damage your nice Tegra cores if put under too much stress.
The game itself is quite bad as far as I'm concerned but it is a good benchmark. On 3.0 for example the performance(FPS) was horrible.
honeycomb issues
I have browsed all over the net as well as many forums.even stuff from and about Google.Honeycomb has issues and they are being worked out all of our devices have similar troubles not just this one.Google and nvidia are working to fix.you will see when we get 3.1 the other tabs will be sent even more updates.im not happy about waiting.but do hope they get it right when its pushed to us.
Patience overcomes! !!!!!!
Well, that is something - if the delay is so a firmware update is packaged into the HC 3.1 update, then I'm all for the delay to get it perfect.
Not sure about the previously mentioned "They were waiting for Google to issue the Honeycomb update" part of the original post though!?!
I've not had a single problem from my tablet straight out of the box. I'm always curious why some people have to have the newest version of honey comb right now. Granted its been out, but why the huge rush. They are going to release it, so relax and let them get it right.
I'll bet money that when its released though, people will still find a reason to gripe and start demanding a new update that's not even released yet, and they will want the update last week. Sheesh, relax and enjoy your tablets people. Its a work in progress. If you wanted an apple like product, buy one, otherwise, consider that your dealing with an os that's still fairly new. Apple had this stuff planned for years before they released it. Android was an afterthought competition.
I love android and all its quirks. The customability is great. Hopefully it will start moving faster, but remember, apple basically has 2 os they use, phone and computer. Google is a search engine company first, not a os developer. They have a bit more on their plate than apple. Acer is a computer parts company, same thing. Tablets are great, but they are not os writers and are still catching up.
Motorola is in the same bind, their mainstay is not android stuff, its radios. They are always playing catch up on phones. Until a company that only makes 1 or 2 basic products and has its own os as powerful as android comes along, this is what we have.
Btw...I really do dislike apple products, just because of the cult like nature behind them. So don't take this as an apple love reply.
Brash
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Bec07 said:
I have a hunch that if you try Monster Madness you'll notice it's less flawless.
I've been having glitches with all the other custom editions so far. Haven't tested Taboony yet though.
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I've just played the first level of Monster Madness and the game plays very well on mine A500! there is no lag at all! Only one of the visual effects is misbehaving once in a while but this doesn't stop the game being completely playable!
I have some flickering when zombies jump out of the ground but that's it. I seriously doubt that it can harm my tablet in any way. It just seems like some texture issues that usually happen because of uncompatible grafics drivers it won't harm the tablet.
on my tegra zone it shows monster madness comes out in july 2011 how do you guys have it already
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on my tegra zone it shows monster madness comes out in july 2011 how do you guys have it already
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That thing doesn't seem to be kept up to date. Look in the proper Market.
Only 2 results crazy monster truck and classic horror collection
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Only 2 results crazy monster truck and classic horror collection
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im with you on this one.
I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.
Unless someone here can tell the future....
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Someone with an inside source said that their timetable for releases is 2 months after a new version is released.
Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
The two month timetable isn't assume h that has been officially confirmed, so it may not be completely accurate.
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I've read a few articles which mentioned that although Motorola is now owned by Google, they are in fact keeping a "firewall" between the two companies. This could explain why the Moto X was released with 4.2 instead of 4.3.
Also, based on what I've seen in recent trends, carriers will be releasing Android OS updates over the air as opposed the Motorola (at least here in the States). Some approach OS updates better than others. Verizon is known to take their time releasing updates to phones because of the extensive testing they do with an upcoming update for a particular device. Take for instance the Droid DNA, a device released close to the end of last year which is only now getting the update to 4.2 from 4.1. I sincerely hope the Moto X does not see such neglect when it comes to future updates but I also wouldn't be surprised.
Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.
with the ability to flash roms coming soon this may not matter
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Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.
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I'd like to believe that Moto offers better support than Samsung and HTC. The 4.3 update is still in the works but hard to put an eta on it as they probably still need time to make sure the moto apps and hardware is optimized to work properly. Other than improved performance and stability, I'm not missing anything by using 4.2.2 for now.
One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.
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One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.
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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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This. If it's going to take moto two months, expect longer because it will need to be blessed by the carriers before OTA updates are pushed out.
I wonder where the T Mobile X fits in then... Will it be updated straight from Moto? If not that might be a big problem because T Mobile obviously doesn't even support the phone.
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You're right. I actually had a big long post about how once Motorola gets the code, implements their features, at&t still has to test it and approve. Hopefully, since it's basically stock android, it won't take as long because the skinning process doesn't have to happen.
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Motorola has a very mixed record so far with their updates. The OG Droid was actually quite good at getting updates in a timely manner and only trailed the Nexus by a few weeks. After Motorola switched to Blur though for all their devices they lagged behind by a few months and even though with Jelly Bean they removed most of the Blur apps in favor of stock, that was still nearly what 9 months after 4.1's source was released before the Razr, Bionic, Droid 4 all got it. In fact for a while there they were one of the slowest at releasing their updates.
Now the Moto X is a new beast though and different from what Motorola has done now so it's hard to say. All the previous devices were part of the "old motorola" and the X is the first device of the "new motorola". The X is almost pure stock so there is very little tweaking that will need to be done. They just need to add in support for their Camera App, Active Display and Touchless Controls, do any kernel updates/bug fixes and then test/resolve any new bugs that popped up in 4.3. Motorola has said that an update is in the works and will come out soon with many improvements for the Moto X. Is this 4.3 or just a newer 4.2.2 build? We don't know.
I'd like to imagine that we will see 4.3 released sometime between now and early October on all carriers considering Samsung announced they will begin to roll out 4.3 to the SGS4, SGS3 and Note2. If Motorola is the first to release a stable, solid build of 4.3 for their new X8 devices and continues to keep up with their updates in a quick and timely manner, it would do a lot to rebuild their name. Right now we just have to wait and see if Motorola is serious about getting better about releasing timely updates or not.
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I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.
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I'm in contact with Punit Soni (Moto X product Manager). He's very active on Google+ and he addressed the update and OTA of 4.3 questions. He said when they officially released the device to distributors, 4.3 just got announced. So it was either delay the Moto X and piss off many pre-ordering customers, or continue with the primary plan and push through with 4.2.2.
He said the update is "Coming soon" as they always say, and he promises many fixes like Camera improvements, Picasa or Google Photos sync for Gallery, and OS 4.3 very soon.
"When will then be now? Soon!"
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Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
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Each OEM gets the source at the same time. Makes no difference. The only reason it takes so long is a mixture between putting loads of framework in. And wanting to get new hardware out.
Moto, working with next to stock android, will be much much faster. No they dont get special treatment per se. But time will be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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But time should be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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FIFY
If it goes the way the Tmobile nexus 4 goes than it will be updated right away. My son has the nexus4 bought directly from Tmobile store & it receives updates along with those bought directly from Google. I know its still a nexus and the moto x isn't but from what I understand the Tmobile version of the x doesn't have any carrier installed stuff on it, so hopefully it will be treated as a device like the Google editions.
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