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Hey guys, I'm new here but I have some (nooby) questions. I'm currently using an iphone to tether my laptop using web2go from t-mobile. I got a g1 from someone and of course rooted and started tinkering with it so that I could get web2go to work on the g1.
My question mainly is if I port over say another android based os, like the droid eris os that is available, does that change the way the phone interacts with t mobile? Or would t-mobile still recognize the internal imei and not care about the os and settings? I'm mainly asking if I can port over another os onto the g1 so I can tether like I currently do.
I know there will be the people who say just buy the more expensive plans, but if I could I would. I'm tethering with these phones because I can't afford real internet!
Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
Tmobile will recognize the IMEI although I have used the wireless and wifi tether's both and not had a problem on Tmo.
wait you use the 9.99 web2go? What settings do you use? Because whenever I try it has trouble "finding internet connection" or whatever. although technically the internet should still be coming through right? It's just being subverted by the g1's software that requires the higher tier services?
If its rooted, just use the wireless tether app. You can find the link here and put it on your SD card. Download Linda file manager from the market and use it to install the tether apk. From there, you will change your phones 3G or Edge signal into a wifi one that your laptop can use. You can use that on any rom, and it doesn't matter wether its droid eris or stock. The only thing that tmobile can see is your imei and your radio version, not the rom.
ok I will try this tomorrow and get back to you. Thanks for all the help
well I tried it real quick right now and I guess I forgot to make clear whats going on. When using the G1 as opposed to the iphone, the web2go subscription gets subverted. So while web2go works with a proxy on the iphone, on the G1 it does nothing.
I have the tools to tether except the G1 / T-mobile subvert the internet. I wanted to know if this was based on imei or on a software lock. Because I have heard of people using their G1's with web2go I'm assuming it's a software lock. So if I use a rom of an os that can run web2go, will I be able to use it? or will the imei lock it out?
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well I tried it real quick right now and I guess I forgot to make clear whats going on. When using the G1 as opposed to the iphone, the web2go subscription gets subverted. So while web2go works with a proxy on the iphone, on the G1 it does nothing.
I have the tools to tether except the G1 / T-mobile subvert the internet. I wanted to know if this was based on imei or on a software lock. Because I have heard of people using their G1's with web2go I'm assuming it's a software lock. So if I use a rom of an os that can run web2go, will I be able to use it? or will the imei lock it out?
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there's only really two different os versions. well, more, but two popular ones. 1.6 (donut) and 2.1 (eclair). does the g1 have a data plan? does it even have 3g? you say you just got it, so if you don't have 3g, there's nothing to tether. as for it not working - if you're rooted it will work. there's also a app on the market (for now) called easy tether. just use the free version.
edit: read top post more clearly - no. you can't tether if you don't have 3g. if you can, it's new to me.
one more edit: you can do what my friend did - take an old satellite dish, hardwire it to a router, and just connect a lot of wire clothes hangers to the satellite's receptor or.. er... thingy and steal wifi for like miles. ha ha.
The thing is web2go is a data plan that can access unlimited 3g through a proxy. T mobile wants users to use their strict g1 data plan, so any other data plans get shut off. I'm wondering if it's imei or software. If its a software lock then I can just install a different rom I'm guessing.
When I tether with the same data plan on my iphone i get edge speeds, the main reason i want to get the g1 working is so i can get the 3g speeds
Ok, then try this. Go to the tmobile.com website, sign in using your number and password (or create an account). When you get to the screen that shows you a picture of your phone, select the option right under the picture that says not my phone, then select any other 3G capable, non android device. That should put you in the clear for a few hours/days/weeks/months, or whenever they decide to check your account.
Ok I tried it but it still didn't work. I'm starting to think it might be the g1 software which is helping shut off the Internet. I'm going to install a new rom and hopefully I'll be able to set the settings for t mobile. Will keep u guys posted
I would like to know if there is an app to turn my Tablet XOOM (WI FI & 3G) in a mobile phone using my provider's SIM card and without using VOIP.
Lello
I likely have no idea what I'm talking about but at the very least you won't see anything like this until ICS is released since it would probably require source code. I have a feeling it may not be possible at all though. Not sure how the radios work for phones but something tells me that having a sim slot doesn't mean all you need to do is make a software change to get a phone working.
pretty sure calling would have to be added to the plan first. Then idk about getting it to actually work. I think the original galaxy tab 7in had something like this hacked for them. Not sure though. Its just off the top of my head.
I fulfilled my quest to get a data only plan on the Atrix by buying an AT&T mifi and just putting the SIM card in my atrix. This required creating a new APN for isp.cingular, and for about 4 months this worked great with a pure voip setup.
A few days ago something happened. My Atrix seems to be stuck on EDGE. It will no longer connect to HSPA in the same locations that it used to be H+ 24 hours a day.
The basics have been covered: power cycling, airplane mode cycling. No use. The SIM itself seems okay since I tried putting it back in the mifi unit, and it got 3G like normal. That also rules out a tower problem.
Anyone have any ideas? I feel like an ass now since I bought the mifi on contract.
You can call At&t and switch it to a voice plan with an hspa data plan so you can use your atrix.
Kind of admitting defeat though.
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Perhaps try flashing a different radio on the atrix. It could be an Incompatibility issue ? Worth a shot I would say
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So, I tried flashing different radios. No luck. After that I thought maybe some fresh ROMs might do it some good. No luck on Alien, and then I installed CM7 and noticed something interesting. The "Use only 2g networks" setting is stuck on. I turn it off, go back, and soon as I look again it's on. Is there something special you have to do to save it, or could this be pointing to an underlying problem?
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So, I tried flashing different radios. No luck. After that I thought maybe some fresh ROMs might do it some good. No luck on Alien, and then I installed CM7 and noticed something interesting. The "Use only 2g networks" setting is stuck on. I turn it off, go back, and soon as I look again it's on. Is there something special you have to do to save it, or could this be pointing to an underlying problem?
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Nothing special is needed to save it. It could be throttling by AT&T do to your imei being that of an Atrix vs a mifi.
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try another at&t sim on your Atrix
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try another at&t sim on your Atrix
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I suspect att has caught you with imei check and you should try with other sim card.
but i suspect it may not work.
why not use it with MiFi only?
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I suspect att has caught you with imei check and you should try with other sim card.
but i suspect it may not work.
why not use it with MiFi only?
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The problem with the mifi is its terrible battery life. It only gets 4 hours in hotspot mode. If it could last as long as my phone, I wouldn't even mind carrying around two devices, but it doesn't.
Anyway, great news. After listening to everyone's suggestions I took the SIM out of my phone and noticed that I was then able to properly disable "Use only 2G networks". So, I ordered a new AT&T SIM online, called and had it activated, and now 3G and H are working properly again. And along the way I fell in love with CyanogenMod.
I expect I'll probably have to repeat this process every few months if they continue to slap down my SIM cards, but I consider it worth it for not having to pay for a voice/text plan. I am still on contract, but to anyone who is considering doing something like me, T-mobile recently started offering a $30 a month plan that gets you 5 GB of data, 100 minutes, and unlimited text, and it's for phones! The only hitch is that it's a month by month thing (no contract) and it's promotional, so who knows when they'll decide to cut it. But personally, I'm hoping it's a sign that carriers are finally moving in the right direction.
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The problem with the mifi is its terrible battery life. It only gets 4 hours in hotspot mode. If it could last as long as my phone, I wouldn't even mind carrying around two devices, but it doesn't.
Anyway, great news. After listening to everyone's suggestions I took the SIM out of my phone and noticed that I was then able to properly disable "Use only 2G networks". So, I ordered a new AT&T SIM online, called and had it activated, and now 3G and H are working properly again. And along the way I fell in love with CyanogenMod.
I expect I'll probably have to repeat this process every few months if they continue to slap down my SIM cards, but I consider it worth it for not having to pay for a voice/text plan. I am still on contract, but to anyone who is considering doing something like me, T-mobile recently started offering a $30 a month plan that gets you 5 GB of data, 100 minutes, and unlimited text, and it's for phones! The only hitch is that it's a month by month thing (no contract) and it's promotional, so who knows when they'll decide to cut it. But personally, I'm hoping it's a sign that carriers are finally moving in the right direction.
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what do you use for voip?
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what do you use for voip?
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I setup a google voice enabled PBX with pbxes.org, back when they let you make them for free. I know for a while they stopped doing that; not sure what the current policy is.
Basically the pbx pretends to be a google talk client, so when someone calls my google voice number it goes to the pbx. Then I have an extension on the pbx that I register on my phone with the native android SIP client, which on CM7 works like a dream. Seriously far smoother and more reliable than sipdroid or csipsimple.
Oh and this does work for outgoing too, but if you're using a solution that doesn't (like google voice -> sipgate/ipkall -> pbxes.org), you can get around it with an app called Google Voice Callback. And it's still all free.
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I setup a google voice enabled PBX with pbxes.org, back when they let you make them for free. I know for a while they stopped doing that; not sure what the current policy is.
Basically the pbx pretends to be a google talk client, so when someone calls my google voice number it goes to the pbx. Then I have an extension on the pbx that I register on my phone with the native android SIP client, which on CM7 works like a dream. Seriously far smoother and more reliable than sipdroid or csipsimple.
Oh and this does work for outgoing too, but if you're using a solution that doesn't (like google voice -> sipgate/ipkall -> pbxes.org), you can get around it with an app called Google Voice Callback. And it's still all free.
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What is the native android SIP client? May I know the app?
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What is the native android SIP client? May I know the app?
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In 2.3 they added SIP calling to the android OS. It's not an app. Of course, in stock android it only works on wifi. Cyanogen unlocks its true potential by letting you use it on cellular too.
In my experience, on stock ROM SIP is an epic fail, both native and via apps (tried acrobits, sipdroid, csipsimple, sipagent). There is something funny about moto's audio routing stack, its not a network or settings issue.
Same settings and SIP providers - yes I tried two lol - , same apps, same network i.e. home Wifi, 100% perfect with nexus one. So I'm sure its Atrix specific. This happened on both stock 2.2 and 2.3 AT&T.
Custom ROM fixes this, CM7 native SIP works perfectly.
Can't remember for other ROMs, but they seemed to get apps working if not native SIP.
YMMV
Hi everyone, last week i bought a galaxy tab 7.7 lte after reading it could make calls but didnt realise the stripped out tbiz feature in us models till i got home. I searched the net hoping to find a hack of somekind to re enable this feature to no avail. I have the graNdfathered unlimited plan and wanted to use my own verizon number to make and recieve calls, i guess the next best thing is to use google voice and groove ip? I have no idea how to set it up as my only number i have read about it but it just confuses me so came on here boping to. Get some help. If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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Hi everyone, last week i bought a galaxy tab 7.7 lte after reading it could make calls but didnt realise the stripped out tbiz feature in us models till i got home. I searched the net hoping to find a hack of somekind to re enable this feature to no avail. I have the graNdfathered unlimited plan and wanted to use my own verizon number to make and recieve calls, i guess the next best thing is to use google voice and groove ip? I have no idea how to set it up as my only number i have read about it but it just confuses me so came on here boping to. Get some help. If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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Here's the problem: US carriers are very greedy. As such, a single device that "does it all" is bad for business. Think about it. If you got a tablet that also doubled as your phone, then that's a tethering fee they can't get you on if you had a wifi-only tablet paired up to your smartphone. OR that's a whole other data subscription, just for your tablet, that they aren't getting your money for either.
US carriers don't like all-in-one devices... That's why you'll never see a US device with all the features of the international version of the same device.
Here's my advice for you: Give Verizon a big fat middle finger by returning the VZW version of the 7.7, buying the international 3G version (P6800) instead, port your existing number over to StraightTalk for $45 a month, unlimited everything, pay as you go, and cancel your VZW contract.
People in the US need to get out of this 2-year agreement dependency BS... That's how carriers are able to gouge us for 3 and 4 times as much as everyone else around the world who are mostly pay-as-you-go. PAYG is much more competitive, and the consumer benefits from it.
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Here's the problem: US carriers are very greedy. As such, a single device that "does it all" is bad for business. Think about it. If you got a tablet that also doubled as your phone, then that's a tethering fee they can't get you on if you had a wifi-only tablet paired up to your smartphone. OR that's a whole other data subscription, just for your tablet, that they aren't getting your money for either.
US carriers don't like all-in-one devices... That's why you'll never see a US device with all the features of the international version of the same device.
Here's my advice for you: Give Verizon a big fat middle finger by returning the VZW version of the 7.7, buying the international 3G version (P6800) instead, port your existing number over to StraightTalk for $45 a month, unlimited everything, pay as you go, and cancel your VZW contract.
People in the US need to get out of this 2-year agreement dependency BS... That's how carriers are able to gouge us for 3 and 4 times as much as everyone else around the world who are mostly pay-as-you-go. PAYG is much more competitive, and the consumer benefits from it.
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I whole heartly agree.... when my contract with ATT is up.. Im doing this very thing.. thanks J.E.W...
Mcnavice said:
If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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As everyone mentioned, your vzw sim is for data only, but for gvoice calls (& voip internet calling) you only need data to work in order to make calls. If you intend to keep your vzw tab, you can try this:
Go to google.com/voice & setup a google voice account & choose a gvoice phone #. You need to do this from a laptop or pc, won't work from tab or phone. You may be required to setup at least one phone for forwarding to complete setup, you can use your cell or home phone, you can always go back later & uncheck forwarding or delete that phone from your gvoice acct.
After setup, at top right of web page, look for pic of gear (settings/options), be sure to select/check off forward to your gmail address.
Be sure your vzw sim is activated & in your tablet.
On your tab go to google play/market & download gvoice app & follow the setup guide. Gvoice will attempt too send a text from your tab which notifies google voice of your tab's phone # configures Gvoice to sync & forward with your new tab. Next download grooveip & follow the setup. You should be golden
I use a prepaid GoPhone sim in my gsm 7.7 tab for calls, text & 3G. If you have good att signal near you & can do without the remote control infrared on the vzw version & can still return your vzw tab, get a p6800. You will not be disappointed
Good Luck
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As everyone mentioned, your vzw sim is for data only, but for gvoice calls (& voip internet calling) you only need data to work in order to make calls. If you intend to keep your vzw tab, you can try this:
Go to google.com/voice & setup a google voice account & choose a gvoice phone #. You need to do this from a laptop or pc, won't work from tab or phone. You may be required to setup at least one phone for forwarding to complete setup, you can use your cell or home phone, you can always go back later & uncheck forwarding or delete that phone from your gvoice acct.
After setup, at top right of web page, look for pic of gear (settings/options), be sure to select/check off forward to your gmail address.
Be sure your vzw sim is activated & in your tablet.
On your tab go to google play/market & download gvoice app & follow the setup guide. Gvoice will attempt too send a text from your tab which notifies google voice of your tab's phone # configures Gvoice to sync & forward with your new tab. Next download grooveip & follow the setup. You should be golden
I use a prepaid GoPhone sim in my gsm 7.7 tab for calls, text & 3G. If you have good att signal near you & can do without the remote control infrared on the vzw version & can still return your vzw tab, get a p6800. You will not be disappointed
Good Luck
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I have the US Verizon version of the 7.7 and it has 4g. Will this setup work with it. I set it up as per your instructions and hope it works but a confirmation from you would be nice.
My company paid for the 7.7 as well as foots the bill for the monthly unlimited 4G data w/ Verizon (I just swap the SIM out between my MiFi and the 7.7 depending on which one i would bring with me). I actually prefer the awesome speed of LTE.
I have got GrooveIP working w/ my Gvoice account to make & receive VOIP calls. (Thanks 2 Asenduk who pointed out the setting that was making it not work on mine).
I just wish the bluetooth would work with the 7.7 as a phone and not just "media" as when I bought one of those bluetooth mini handsets it only lets you talk on it but does not let you answer or end the call from the handset (nor gives you caller id or ringing indicator at all).
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I have the US Verizon version of the 7.7 and it has 4g. Will this setup work with it. I set it up as per your instructions and hope it works but a confirmation from you would be nice.
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If you already have it setup, why not just test it out ?
I can say that I just set this up on my sister's VZW 7.7 GTab & it works flawlessly using free version of GrooveIP Lite. She already had a gvoice # setup w/forwarding to her cell, I just added GVoice app to her tab & configured to her GVoice, and of course, installed GrooveIP Lite app & Bam !
You may need to enable (check box) to "send calls to GoogleChat" option in google voice for incoming, on some devices this was necessary for me
I'm off to pay for full version of GrooveIP, cuz they deserve it
Let me note: I am not a dev nor programmer.
With the similiarities of the P6800 and the Verizon 7.7, I threw together a rom w/ stock SCH-I815 samsung/verizon kernel using the P6800 frameworks and apps into the Verizon 7.7 and removed most bloat. The LTE/Verizon antennas aren't recognized by the device at all but everything else was working.
Now, you can't swap the phone.apk's around without the framework's else you'll experience FCs. So obviously I'll need to use the base stock apps and frameworks and go through the 2 framework files hunting about.
Has anyone else with the Verizon 7.7 taken a look into this?
I'm curious if you've made any progress on this?
Not yet, probably be a week before I even look through the files again. But I believe it's fully possible to get phone use
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i think you will need to find samsung modem for verzon networks, does verizon have a galaxy note or sgs2?
although your modem firmware probably has voice disabled, may have to find modem manufacturer and try to flash custom firmware.
good luck, wish you the best.
I'm happy enough using GrooveIP for google voice calling. What I'd really like is if we could activate the phone profile in bluetooth (or will that just come with enabling the proper phone part in the 7.7?).
As of now i can use GrooveIP and bluetooth to listen and speak, but it won't let the bluetooth device answer/hang up/transfer address book/show caller ID (on the Verizon LTE 7.7)
Doesn't verizon require some sort of signed telephony to work properly on their network
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Doesn't verizon require some sort of signed telephony to work properly on their network
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I got no idea but with the other packs it didn't detect the radio at all. This is keeping the vzw radio partition stock. I like the ideas and really wish the note was verizon as that'd help figure things out.
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just to confirm does this a sim slot? i thought someone said it did.
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just to confirm does this a sim slot? i thought someone said it did.
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It does for LTE but cdma service doesn't use sim
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Seeing as your data account won't have any provisioning for voice usage, even if you DID get a working modem and a modified framework to allow for phone functionality on the device, I doubt that you'd actually be able to made or receive a phone call due to Verizon's limitations at the account and provisioning level anyway.
Point is, it's a CDMA device, and thus your service is attached to the device itself, not the SIM card (except for LTE data). Basically, you can't just provision service to the SIM card alone, and then simply swap it into a different device. So if you got the modem and the framework working, and you called in to Verizon customer service and asked to provision your line for voice, they'll just be like "Umm, no... We never INTENDED for you to use that device as a phone, so no... You want a phone? Buy a phone. You want a tablet? Buy a tablet. You want to do both in one device? We won't allow that because that loses us money that we would be getting by having you either subscribe to two lines, or charge you extra to tether..."
There is a much simpler solution however.
Ditch ANY CDMA carrier in favour of a GSM carrier instead, preferably one that uses the same compatible frequencies adopted by the rest of the world, like AT&T (and MVNO's based off of AT&T's network), and buy the P6800.
The moral of this story is this: if you want the latest devices, with the best features, you're NOT going to find them in the north American market, EVER, at all, period; you're just going to find watered-down, gimped, bloated, and locked-down versions of the international models. You HAVE to import. If you're going to import, you HAVE to use a GSM service provider... That's just the way it is. It sucks, I know, but it is what it is.
I would have to agree, the GSM version would be best. It would be near impossible to make this happen. Of course if I was stick with one, I would try everything I could as well. I'd probably fail miserably and go for something like GrooveIP.
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Seeing as your data account won't have any provisioning for voice usage, even if you DID get a working modem and a modified framework to allow for phone functionality on the device, I doubt that you'd actually be able to made or receive a phone call due to Verizon's limitations at the account and provisioning level anyway.
Point is, it's a CDMA device, and thus your service is attached to the device itself, not the SIM card (except for LTE data). Basically, you can't just provision service to the SIM card alone, and then simply swap it into a different device. So if you got the modem and the framework working, and you called in to Verizon customer service and asked to provision your line for voice, they'll just be like "Umm, no... We never INTENDED for you to use that device as a phone, so no... You want a phone? Buy a phone. You want a tablet? Buy a tablet. You want to do both in one device? We won't allow that because that loses us money that we would be getting by having you either subscribe to two lines, or charge you extra to tether..."
There is a much simpler solution however.
Ditch ANY CDMA carrier in favour of a GSM carrier instead, preferably one that uses the same compatible frequencies adopted by the rest of the world, like AT&T (and MVNO's based off of AT&T's network), and buy the P6800.
The moral of this story is this: if you want the latest devices, with the best features, you're NOT going to find them in the north American market, EVER, at all, period; you're just going to find watered-down, gimped, bloated, and locked-down versions of the international models. You HAVE to import. If you're going to import, you HAVE to use a GSM service provider... That's just the way it is. It sucks, I know, but it is what it is.
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I move my SIM between devices all the time and have never needed to call VZ to provision the new device. Voice and data just work.
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I move my SIM between devices all the time and have never needed to call VZ to provision the new device. Voice and data just work.
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I can CONFIRM the following:
I have a VZ tab 7.7 with 5GB data plan and I have a VZ Razr with voice/unlimited data plan.
Both are LTE devices and hence use (micro) SIM cards. In "My Verizon" even the tab has a phone number assigned to it's "line". A call to that number just rings but obviously nothing on the tab.
BUT...
Put the tab sim in the phone and YES it will ring if you call that number! Even TXT in/out works! I assume they will just charge me per txt and per min phone use BUT IT WORKS in a PHONE.
And the kicker is, the unlimited PHONE SIM also works in the TAB! I immediately get LTE data and can surf with the tab. Of course at that point calls and texts to that phone number are "ignored" by the tab's neutered modem.
Lesson learned:
IF there was a way to flash a modem, say for example from the Samsung Galaxy Nexus to the VZ 7.7 TAB, we would have a full supersized phone in our hand. Only downside, no earpiece. So only speakerphone or BT calls I guess.
Anyway, after a little more research I also found this very interesting article:
http://www.phonenews.com/verizon-affirms-unlimited-smartphone-sim-card-usage-in-hotspots-tablets-lte-ipad-20053/
Hope this helps bring a little light into the messy CDMA/LTE darkness
I have swapped my Galaxy Nexus SIM in my VZW LTE 7.7 numerous times. It works. I'd love to have voice on the VZW LTE 7.7, then I could possibly do it all on my tab. I'm no developer tho ;p