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just got my email from sprint saying that evo releases on june 4, for 199 with contract.
now, i'm not going to give up my N1, but i need to have a sprint device for going back to clinics, and i think that this will do quite nicely
awesome possum.
I would give up my nexus one for evo but then again, I hate sprint service.
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I would give up my nexus one for evo but then again, I hate sprint service.
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For what it's worth, Sprint has a larger 3G network than both AT&T and T-Mobile, as well as little to no issues with congestion, etc. They also have the ability to roam on Verizon for 2G services...this is useful when underground in NYC.
I don't think Sprint service is bad at all, honestly. At least not around here.
Don't count on Froyo and flash 10.1. The way carriers are putting out updates on their android HTC branded phones I wouldn't want it. Front facing cameras are a gimmick anyway.
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Don't count on Froyo and flash 10.1. The way carriers are putting out updates on their android HTC branded phones I wouldn't want it. Front facing cameras are a gimmick anyway.
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If the phone is going to be rooted anyway, then who honestly cares? It should eventually get 2.2 froyo no matter what the carriers do. Same thing with Flash.
here's a little demo of the beauty working here
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For what it's worth, Sprint has a larger 3G network than both AT&T and T-Mobile, as well as little to no issues with congestion, etc. They also have the ability to roam on Verizon for 2G services...this is useful when underground in NYC.
I don't think Sprint service is bad at all, honestly. At least not around here.
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not in westcoast bay area. I have the worst service with them also some of my friends. The plan is so cheap and would like to keep but phone is useless without signal.
Ya, and sprint is already dogging the nexus also... Evo is better so we canned the nexus, fukin haters....
720p video capture using 8 megapixel camera
3G/4G compatible on 1900mhz dual band. EVDO/WiMax
4.3 inch display
FM Radio
Internal Memory 1GB
ROM 1GB ROM
that just put me to shame with my nexus one on t-mobile.
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If the phone is going to be rooted anyway, then who honestly cares? It should eventually get 2.2 froyo no matter what the carriers do. Same thing with Flash.
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That's an invalid point. This is a HTC device, not the standard AOSP code.
Nexus is still better. 720p encoding will come soon. FM radio coming too. Better updates. Amoled. More dpi. Better support. Better trackball. Noise cancellation. Better battery. Its not hard to root. Don't expect evo root too soon. Gonna take time like Eris did. CDMA means give up ur phone to switch service. Immense lock down by HTC. BEST THING - CYANOGEN NATIVE SUPPORT , kmobs n other devs. Nexus has a better dev support too. Intelligent than other phones users (sorry had to say this. Saw users for other phones n think n1 has better users. N1 has a better form factor. There are countless more advantages
Evo.- just better multi touch n bigger LCD screen n less dpi. 4g=3g it doesn't increase speed but 4g is less congested as it handles traffic better than 3g. See the incredible. It will not get root anytime soon and its camera is worse than n1, more megapixels doesn't mean better photo
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Nexus is still better. 720p encoding will come soon. FM radio coming too. Better updates. Amoled. More dpi. Better support. Better trackball. Noise cancellation. Better battery. Its not hard to root. Don't expect evo root too soon. Gonna take time like Eris did. CDMA means give up ur phone to switch service. Immense lock down by HTC. BEST THING - CYANOGEN NATIVE SUPPORT , kmobs n other devs. Nexus has a better dev support too. Intelligent than other phones users (sorry had to say this. Saw users for other phones n think n1 has better users. N1 has a better form factor. There are countless more advantages
Evo.- just better multi touch n bigger LCD screen n less dpi. 4g=3g it doesn't increase speed but 4g is less congested as it handles traffic better than 3g. See the incredible. It will not get root anytime soon and its camera is worse than n1, more megapixels doesn't mean better photo
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and N1 is unlocked, so us Indian users love it for that reason also
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Nexus is still better. 720p encoding will come soon. FM radio coming too. Better updates. Amoled. More dpi. Better support. Better trackball. Noise cancellation. Better battery. Its not hard to root. Don't expect evo root too soon. Gonna take time like Eris did. CDMA means give up ur phone to switch service. Immense lock down by HTC. BEST THING - CYANOGEN NATIVE SUPPORT , kmobs n other devs. Nexus has a better dev support too. Intelligent than other phones users (sorry had to say this. Saw users for other phones n think n1 has better users. N1 has a better form factor. There are countless more advantages
Evo.- just better multi touch n bigger LCD screen n less dpi. 4g=3g it doesn't increase speed but 4g is less congested as it handles traffic better than 3g. See the incredible. It will not get root anytime soon and its camera is worse than n1, more megapixels doesn't mean better photo
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The "more dpi" argument is moot because of the way the nexus's screen is; I can very easily discern individual pixels without being very close to the screen; in contrast, i dont believe that problem will exist with the tft lcd.
"4g doesnt increase speed" Who told you that?? If it didnt increase speed then there would hardly be any point.
Haha, what's with the Evo hate guys?
This phone will bring a *HUGE* surge to the spread of Android. If marketed well and the device is issue-free, it'll be another shot of adrenaline like what Verizon did with the Droid Does campaign.
Evo is amazing. Nexus Two will be amazing just as well.
Enough with the Android-on-Android hate. The real enemy is the FRUIT!
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Haha, what's with the Evo hate guys?
This phone will bring a *HUGE* surge to the spread of Android. If marketed well and the device is issue-free, it'll be another shot of adrenaline like what Verizon did with the Droid Does campaign.
Evo is amazing. Nexus Two will be amazing just as well.
Enough with the Android-on-Android hate. The real enemy is the FRUIT!
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What he said. A good phone that should sell well and we all win because of it.
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Haha, what's with the Evo hate guys?
This phone will bring a *HUGE* surge to the spread of Android. If marketed well and the device is issue-free, it'll be another shot of adrenaline like what Verizon did with the Droid Does campaign.
Evo is amazing. Nexus Two will be amazing just as well.
Enough with the Android-on-Android hate. The real enemy is the FRUIT!
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Exactly! Once Android becomes the dominant mobile OS we will crush our real enemies... stupid apple phanboys!
Be happy for fellow android EVO users, were all in this together...
I'm not sure if it's just marketing or not, but Sprint has always seemed to me as the "big boys" smartphone ring. Like executive and top level type people that use sprint.
Nice hardware, but god damn it's ugly!
The only turn off about this phone is the extra $10 4G fee even if your city doesn't have 4G yet.
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The only turn off about this phone is the extra $10 4G fee even if your city doesn't have 4G yet.
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Even with that it's cheaper than other carriers.
According to T-Mobile's Official Twitter the testing out a hspa+ Phone likely HTC Android for release this summer
is the vibrant not hspa+ or do we just have hspa?
Just Hspa 7.2 when the new phone would be capable of 21
I would be more interesting in other specs, like processor, screen, etc... IMO hspa is plenty quick for smart phones and tethering when traveling.
Honestly, I dont think you'd notice the difference in speeds, unless downloading huge apps.
yea, I bet there would be no noticable browing difference other than the Downloads... Hell Ive never even got 7.2, let alone thinking about 21... But still I know that if I could have 21 I would want it...
but it would probably be a bigger community of people with that phone like there was with evo and nexus one since it's gsm and first HSPA+ and probably HTC with 3.7 - 4.3 inch screen with 1.2 ghz since tha'ts the speed of the hspa+ capable processor
Well, I hate HTC Sense. If I could get a new developer phone (to replace the N1), shipping with stock 3.0, I would be all over that.
I really do like TouchWiz 3.0, save for a few issues. It's very easy to transition from the iPhone into the Vibrant.
Hardware-wise, I don't know if I can leave this SAMOLED display. I'd need something similar, and I don't know what could even come close. Construction-wise, I'd like a heavier, metallic body to match my OS of choice.
But isn't this all for nothing? I thought the T-Mo announcement (for Project Emerald -- with Android 3.0) was that they were testing the phone this summer, for release in the Fall / Holiday window? That's what a rep told me, before he redacted the statement and said, "I'm not supposed to talk about that, actually...but I will say this: it's pretty sweet."
*whistle*
I think I'll stick with the Vibrant, unless the GPS / Compass issues really bug me (aren't fixed).
What if came with Stock Froyo and was Promoted like the nexus one and you know guaranteed to get gingerbread the day after announced
You know, as much as I love this phone, I think I will be replacing it with the fabled "Project Emerald" when it comes out. I'm thinking of buying a used G1 to use meanwhile.
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yeah but by that time we should have 2.2 on the vibrant and the speed of this phone is going to increase dramatically...and then you would most likely not notice any difference at all. the only thing that would make me leave this phone is probably another s-amoled display or something better.
I have a strong feeling that the samsung vibrant will have 2.2 but I have doubts on it have 3.0
Vibrant is 7.2 and I dont even see that in Boston, so HSPA+ will be like Sprint 4G = no where.
and as far as new phones and OS 3.0.......there is no a single word on both subjects yet so its pointless to guess when and what will get released......just like its pointless to guess is 3.0 will come to Vibrant. By the time 3.0 gets released, maybe there will be a HUGE dev team for Galaxy S phone line....
That's the one thing that keeps me skeptical. I don't want to have to worry about custom firmwares and all of that; especially considering that I enjoy some of the TouchWiz customizations, and can see custom ROMs leaving those behind.
I really hope that Samsung is 'in it to win it' with the Galaxy S line. I want them to support these phones until the technology in them prevents future updates.
I really wish that it worked like this: All manufacturers are required to ship with stock ROMs, but can construct their own proprietary apps and services which can be toggled. So, for example, the Vibrant would ship with stock 2.1, but the Samsung Calendar application would be the default, over Google's. If you wanted to switch back to the stock Android apps, you could do so quite easily. Because that's all I really want that's different, to be honest: the iPhone-like TouchWiz applications. I could deal with the stock launcher and widgets just fine.
That's really all I want, and I hope we start seeing that with the next iteration of Android.
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Vibrant is 7.2 and I dont even see that in Boston, so HSPA+ will be like Sprint 4G = no where.
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This is just a dumb statement. T-Mobile's HSPA+ will cover 180million pops by the end of the year. Just because you don't have fast speeds now doesn't mean that T-Mobile isn't doing anything to increase those speeds. Oh, and the 7.2 of your phones specs are theoretical, not actual. Actual should be about 5mbs if your on a site that has been upgraded for high speed, no other data use, and in a perfect environment. If its not an upgraded cell site you'll get 500K-1M.
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I really wish that it worked like this: All manufacturers are required to ship with stock ROMs, but can construct their own proprietary apps and services which can be toggled. So, for example, the Vibrant would ship with stock 2.1, but the Samsung Calendar application would be the default, over Google's. If you wanted to switch back to the stock Android apps, you could do so quite easily. Because that's all I really want that's different, to be honest: the iPhone-like TouchWiz applications. I could deal with the stock launcher and widgets just fine.
That's really all I want, and I hope we start seeing that with the next iteration of Android.
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I actually like that different phones come with different UI's. Gives us more options. If you don't like touchwiz, install LauncherPro or ADW Launcher.
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This is just a dumb statement. T-Mobile's HSPA+ will cover 180million pops by the end of the year. Just because you don't have fast speeds now doesn't mean that T-Mobile isn't doing anything to increase those speeds. Oh, and the 7.2 of your phones specs are theoretical, not actual. Actual should be about 5mbs if your on a site that has been upgraded for high speed, no other data use, and in a perfect environment. If its not an upgraded cell site you'll get 500K-1M.
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why is it dumb ? WTF ? Obviously HSPA+ will come, but its not here yet, its dumb of you to assume otherwise.....
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why is it dumb ? WTF ? Obviously HSPA+ will come, but its not here yet, its dumb of you to assume otherwise.....
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You made the statement that T-Mobiles HSPA+ will be no where, like Sprints 4G. This is predicting one companies outcome based on another companies shortcomings. That makes it a dumb statement. Hey, that apple might taste bad because the orange I just had did.
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I have a strong feeling that the samsung vibrant will have 2.2 but I have doubts on it have 3.0
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It all depends on samsung (which doesn't have the best record) but with its huge international base I think they'll still support the phone and release the next version of Android.
I highly doubt that the Most powerful phones today (Droid X, SGS) will be too underpowered for the next release of Android if thats what you're worried about.
The modding community seems to be fairly strong for such a new device, I think itll continue to grow and will have a community that rivals the G1 and the N1 so what support samsung lacks the community will make up for.
As regards to the OP, the T-Mobiles HSPA+ device wont be next gen, so its not really worth waiting for IMO. Not to mention itll be an only Tmobile device (unlike the 4 major US carriers SGS variants + international) so the community will be smaller.
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You made the statement that T-Mobiles HSPA+ will be no where, like Sprints 4G. This is predicting one companies outcome based on another companies shortcomings. That makes it a dumb statement. Hey, that apple might taste bad because the orange I just had did.
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its just i am not predicting....i am talking about NOW. and now HSPA+ is already rolling out and I dont even get full HSPA speeds yet. I would focus on getting HSPA in more places, I still get EDGE in many....
sometimes i am jealous of my friends ATT or Sprint which get 3G in mountains where I have GPRS
ok, so i am going to upgrade my phone soon, i have 3 choices and i am not sure which one to get; Motorola Milestone X, Samsung Galaxy S, or HTC Merge.
any thoughts?
I'd look up each on xda development website and see which has better ROM choices and which development teams are involved.
From that information I'd pick the one that has best and most options.
Good luck
V's CDMA Hero
I try to get a phone thats on Xda cspire really doesnt have any good phones that has development on here , you should wait till they release 4g
Are you talking about the Galaxy S 2, or just the Galaxy S? If it's the Galaxy S 2, go with that. I know people will come in and say Sammy is slow on updates, but I don't think they will disappoint with the S 2. Coupled with the last 2 Nexus phones have been Samsung, I think it shows Samsung's dedication to Android.
Otherwise, I'd get the Milestone X. I'm getting tired of HTC's shenanigans, so I'm looking to other manufacturers from here on out.
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I'm getting tired of HTC's shenanigans, so I'm looking to other manufacturers from here on out.
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What shenanigans? I've heard much worse about the Samsung Galaxy S (Epic) compared to the HTC hero. GPS problems causing the phone to restart and difficulty developing. They only just got CM7.
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What shenanigans? I've heard much worse about the Samsung Galaxy S (Epic) compared to the HTC hero. GPS problems causing the phone to restart and difficulty developing. They only just got CM7.
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I sold my epic and went back to my hero because it tons of problems my hero is way better
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im going with the motorola photon. not alot of development going on but thats not really a problem when the phone is beastly out the box(so i hear dont own one myself).but getting one in two weeks. im going to root it and run it stock, until some genius unlocks the bootloader without losing 4g.
I'm very seriously considering going with Sprint's version of the Samsung Galaxy SII, the Epic 4G Touch. I played with it at a friends' house and, even with the stock ROM, it is UNBELIEVABLE how much faster and better all around it is than our little workhorse Heroes.
I was not, however, too crazy about the Evo 3D. Even with a custom ROM, it seemed slow and sluggish by comparison to the stock Epic 4G. In the exact same location, the Epic 4G loaded everything faster, had much faster results on speedtest, and switched between apps much quicker. Plus the Epic is thinner and lighter, with a bigger screen.
I really don't know anything about the Photon. A 1ghz Tegra 2 is kinda slow these days, though. I looked at one in the store briefly, but the style was not very attractive to me. The piano black edges clashed with the matte black body. And they are fingerprint magnets.
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I'm very seriously considering going with Sprint's version of the Samsung Galaxy SII, the Epic 4G Touch. I played with it at a friends' house and, even with the stock ROM, it is UNBELIEVABLE how much faster and better all around it is than our little workhorse Heroes.
I was not, however, too crazy about the Evo 3D. Even with a custom ROM, it seemed slow and sluggish by comparison to the stock Epic 4G. In the exact same location, the Epic 4G loaded everything faster, had much faster results on speedtest, and switched between apps much quicker. Plus the Epic is thinner and lighter, with a bigger screen.
I really don't know anything about the Photon. A 1ghz Tegra 2 is kinda slow these days, though. I looked at one in the store briefly, but the style was not very attractive to me. The piano black edges clashed with the matte black body. And they are fingerprint magnets.
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I have an Evo 3D, and while it's definitely a step up from the OG Evo, HTC has killed the capability of the phone with their Sense UI. I don't get any FCs, but there is a lag when the the carousel is spinning. The frame rate of the spin is not very fluid. The only reason I have the 3D is because I was having issues with my Evo 4G, and it was replaced with a 3D. If I were in the market for a new phone today, I would go with the Epic Touch 4G, and not look back. But, I hope the Galaxy Nexus comes to Sprint, as I think I'm done with carrier customizations, since I always revert back to near vanilla Android (CMx) anyway. I just hope the 4th gen Nexus goes to Sprint (not due for an upgrade until Jan 2013), and has a LTE radio. I'd like for it to be a world phone, but will be satisfied with LTE and Jelly Bean, or whatever Googles uses for the letter J.
I own an evo as well haven't had not one issue. Slow ha never. If you on a Evo3d and its slow I'd definitely say its user error.
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I own an evo as well haven't had not one issue. Slow ha never. If you on a Evo3d and its slow I'd definitely say its user error.
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Compared to a SGS2 it is awfully slow. Just go to a retail store and compare the two. After seeing these two side by side outside of a store, I wanted to get an idea of what they were like in store, just in case you were right. You're not. Even in store, the difference is significant! It's really night and day. The SGS2 is significantly faster when loading web pages, has apparently a better radio because its speedtests were faster than the evo, when both were done side-by-side, and the SGS2 took and stored pictures about half a second faster.
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Compared to a SGS2 it is awfully slow. Just go to a retail store and compare the two. After seeing these two side by side outside of a store, I wanted to get an idea of what they were like in store, just in case you were right. You're not. Even in store, the difference is significant! It's really night and day. The SGS2 is significantly faster when loading web pages, has apparently a better radio because its speedtests were faster than the evo, when both were done side-by-side, and the SGS2 took and stored pictures about half a second faster.
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Lol man everyone has there opinion, but to say I'm wrong lol that's a little different. I actually own a Evo3d you don't own either phone correct?? And you went to a store a played with two demos and did a comparison which IMO isn't accurate because you dont know how the phones were setup. And as far as speed tests go IMO there garbage. Real world performance is what matters. But to save a back and forth about a phone you currently don't own I'll post this. You get what ever phone works for you. And that's all that matters.
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Lol man everyone has there opinion, but to say I'm wrong lol that's a little different. I actually own a Evo3d you don't own either phone correct?? And you went to a store a played with two demos and did a comparison which IMO isn't accurate because you dont know how the phones were setup. And as far as speed tests go IMO there garbage. Real world performance is what matters. But to save a back and forth about a phone you currently don't own I'll post this. You get what ever phone works for you. And that's all that matters.
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I don't think you read my first response. I played extensively with two of my friends' phones, one an SGS2, one an Evo 3d, both of which have cm7 loaded on them. I rebooted them both before I did a comparison. The SGS2 was _considerably_ faster in every respect. Then I went to a Sprint store to see if it was just some random thing. In the store, after rebooting them, the SGS2 was _significantly_ faster as well with both having stock roms that were wiped clean the night before my arrival.
All off the differences were real world differences. I think it's interesting to see speedtests act so differently, too, since both phones were priced at the exact same $199.99 level. The SGS2 was about 35% faster, repeatedly, when they did side-by-side comparisons. That matters to me, especially when every other phone operation was better, both under CM7 and stock.
The only thing I'm seeing in your response is that you haven't played with both phones and you think yours, without having done an empirical test, simply "must" be just as fast. Go compare for yourself, buddy.
As far as me reading your post incorrect that's a negative, your second post is greatly different than your first. How then could I have misread your first post and got the meaning of your second post when there obviously not the same. If what you posted in your second post was the point you were trying to make then don't you think you should have posted that instead?? "Its a rhetorical question" Also if that's all you get from my first post then hopefully you can gain a little more from this one. A good friend of mine has the sgs2 so I had the pleasure of handling the phone unrooted. Then just to spite me because I give him such a hard time about it he went and paid someone else to root it and put cm7 on it. After that I had the pleasure of handling the phone while being rooted. I will definitely say the sgs2 is a top noch phone but its not faster IMO than the Evo3d. As far as app loading,web page rendering, phone call connection, multitasking, multimedia upload & download, bootup time, shutdown time, etc. I've ran the sgs2 threw the paces of how I would use my phone and I would definitely still choose the Evo3d. So to shed a little light on the dark thought that you have of me just thinking "my Evo3d is faster" lol without giving the sgs2 a fair shot, I have spent enough time with the sgs2 to know that I would not want one. A fast phone yes but just not faster than the Evo3d. Its just my opinion. Also as I previously posted just get what phone you like best and if it works for you that's all that matters.
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As far as me reading your post incorrect that's a negative, your second post is greatly different than your first. How then could I have misread your first post and got the meaning of your second post when there obviously not the same. If what you posted in your second post was the point you were trying to make then don't you think you should have posted that instead?? "Its a rhetorical question" Also if that's all you get from my first post then hopefully you can gain a little more from this one. A good friend of mine has the sgs2 so I had the pleasure of handling the phone unrooted. Then just to spite me because I give him such a hard time about it he went and paid someone else to root it and put cm7 on it. After that I had the pleasure of handling the phone while being rooted. I will definitely say the sgs2 is a top noch phone but its not faster IMO than the Evo3d. As far as app loading,web page rendering, phone call connection, multitasking, multimedia upload & download, bootup time, shutdown time, etc. I've ran the sgs2 threw the paces of how I would use my phone and I would definitely still choose the Evo3d. So to shed a little light on the dark thought that you have of me just thinking "my Evo3d is faster" lol without giving the sgs2 a fair shot, I have spent enough time with the sgs2 to know that I would not want one. A fast phone yes but just not faster than the Evo3d. Its just my opinion. Also as I previously posted just get what phone you like best and if it works for you that's all that matters.
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I encourage you to re-read what I said. You're mistaking my second post for my first one. This is now my fourth on the subject. It appears you completely ignored most of what I said.
Your story is convoluted and sounds pretty far-fetched. At this point, it looks like a fairly weakly-fabricated "me too." You have over 200 Thank Yous here (which, I agree is meaningless in the grand scheme of things), but you really expect me to believe the story you concocted with such poor grammar and a lack of basic punctuation? No offense, but is English not your native language? Perhaps that's why we're not understanding one another.
You don't have to believe me, but real-world usage, as well as all of the reviews with benchmarks show that the SGS2 eats the Evo 3D for lunch in almost every benchmark. That translates to real world performance, at least in how I use my phone. Perhaps you don't use yours as a multimedia device. That's fine, not everybody does. It's ok if you don't want to believe that, but it is the case as every professional review site will attest.
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I sold my epic and went back to my hero because it tons of problems my hero is way better
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Well you have no credibility left!
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I encourage you to re-read what I said. You're mistaking my second post for my first one. This is now my fourth on the subject. It appears you completely ignored most of what I said.
Your story is convoluted and sounds pretty far-fetched. At this point, it looks like a fairly weakly-fabricated "me too." You have over 200 Thank Yous here (which, I agree is meaningless in the grand scheme of things), but you really expect me to believe the story you concocted with such poor grammar and a lack of basic punctuation? No offense, but is English not your native language? Perhaps that's why we're not understanding one another.
You don't have to believe me, but real-world usage, as well as all of the reviews with benchmarks show that the SGS2 eats the Evo 3D for lunch in almost every benchmark. That translates to real world performance, at least in how I use my phone. Perhaps you don't use yours as a multimedia device. That's fine, not everybody does. It's ok if you don't want to believe that, but it is the case as every professional review site will attest.
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How many thanks I have is unimportant I also checked your profile and it seems most of your posts are just complaints and requests this helps insure that this is my last post on this subject. Also if you believe what I wrote or not doesn't concern me the least, such matters are pointless just like your posts. I understand that some people have trouble focusing there thoughts so I'll leave you to yourself so you hopefully get it all worked out. I really hope you do. Have a good one.
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You ignored everything I said, absolutely everything.
You gave no evidence for your claims except for your fake story. I noted that every review that compares both phones shows the difference I saw. This isn't opinion. It's fact, proven by multiple benchmarks and side-by-side comparisons.
I'll make this easy for you. Watch this video. It's real world performance. There's a distinct advantage for the SGS2.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-2-video
I can understand if you prefer the Evo 3D for whatever reason. It's entirely acceptable to do so. However, to claim that its performance is better than the SGS2 is, simply put, wrong on almost all accounts. I didn't expect someone with so many Thanks to be such a jerk. It's good to admit when you're wrong. You might try some humility sometime.
I heart my NS4G that cost me $30. Paying $200 for a phone at this stayof the game is rather pointless imo, but I am enjoying browsing these hero threads without being bombarded by repeat ICS posts
Edit: that should be stage of the game
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lol @ the guy that thinks the evo3d is as good as the sgs2
and lol that he thinks its faster
Something lovely was announced:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=SEM:Google:P:Sprint:Samsung
Looks like I know what my next phone is. Discuss.
Been posted all over today. Not only here, but on every major media site.
I haven't seen any posts on here yet. But I do see it everywhere media wise. I'm pretty excited.
I post it yesterday and a ritard mod moved my thread.
Hmm making me question if I should of jumped to verizon
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Too bad they invested so much in the iPhone that their phones aregoing to suck til they make their money back.
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Too bad they invested so much in the iPhone that their phones aregoing to suck til they make their money back.
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Their phones are going to suck? Why? Did they make a deal for some Nokias?
Again, trolling, that which you so hastily bash. Their phones are going to suck because of the aforementioned reason. Note that nothing profound has been shown at CES in their favor as far as devices go and the last good exclusive they had was a rehashed HD2.
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Again, trolling, that which you so hastily bash. Their phones are going to suck because of the aforementioned reason. Note that nothing profound has been shown at CES in their favor as far as devices go and the last good exclusive they had was a rehashed HD2.
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Do you know anything before you open your mouth, or are you just that dumb? They have the Iphone 4s, the SGSII and the Gnex...I think that is a pretty good selection. As for trolling, that was a legitimate question. If their phones are going to suck...they must be nokias...
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Do you know anything before you open your mouth, or are you just that dumb? They have the Iphone 4s, the SGSII and the Gnex...I think that is a pretty good selection. As for trolling, that was a legitimate question. If their phones are going to suck...they must be nokias...
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I clearly stated, "exclusives." Though I suppose with your boundless rage towards me you neglect the opportunity to review valid points. I suppose that if you want to discredit Nokia, that's your call. My phone is not measured by it's processor, but by it's efficiency, speed, and build quality.
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I clearly stated, "exclusives." Though I suppose with your boundless rage towards me you neglect the opportunity to review valid points. I suppose that if you want to discredit Nokia, that's your call. My phone is not measured by it's processor, but by it's efficiency, speed, and build quality.
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They will always have your evo exclusives. Your views on business are absolutely horrible. You believe everything you read on the internet. Have you ever came up with an original idea? Im guessing no. Well, I guess buying a $500 phone for a 1 year old doesn't make you the smartest though, so it is to be expected.
Yup, just attempt to attack me personally rather than put forth a valid point. I'm used to it by now, and I could probably do it faster on a WP7.
I'm not saying that the crappy battery life, mediocre quadrant benchmark & terrible browser benchmarks are definitely a permanent part of the phone. But hear me out: what if they are? What if LG & Google just did a bad job putting the overall package together, and it never comes close to performing like the Optimus G?
Again: I'm not asking, "do you think it's going to be this way?" I'm just asking a hypothetical, and that's it.
So what happens next? Wait for a new Asus or Samsung phone? Pick up a GN2, actual Optimus G, GS3? Switch to WP8 or iOS? Go back to the Gnex? Stick with the Nexus 4 and ride out its shortcomings? Live in denial, cursing reviewers?
Just wondering.
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I'm not saying that the crappy battery life, mediocre quadrant benchmark & terrible browser benchmarks are definitely a permanent part of the phone. But hear me out: what if they are?
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Simple... If certain things cause you not to like a phone then don't buy it
The review units didn't ship with widgets on the lock screen feature and multi-user login feature. Those will be in the final builds before shipment. That final build should address those issues. I think Google made a foolish mistake to release unfinished software for review.
But to answer your question, those will never be permanent so your question just doesn't make sense. The LG Optimus G, which has the exact same specs, scored well in benchmarks and battery tests. The issue with the Nexus 4 is definitely the software. And if it's software, Google will take care.
If you really want an answer, well then this is a terrible device, I guess?
Remember, people thought ICS was crappy and laggy when it was first released on the GNex
I hope for everyone's sake that these issues are only temporary.
That said along with my other concerns (LTE and storage are a pretty big deal for me, HATERS: NO MAYBE NOT FOR YOU I DON'T CARE) I am already on the fence between buying this before the holidays and waiting to see what comes next year. If there are quality or performance issues then that will push me over the edge to riding out a few more months with my i9000.
abe in space said:
I'm not saying that the crappy battery life, mediocre quadrant benchmark & terrible browser benchmarks are definitely a permanent part of the phone. But hear me out: what if they are? What if LG & Google just did a bad job putting the overall package together, and it never comes close to performing like the Optimus G?
Again: I'm not asking, "do you think it's going to be this way?" I'm just asking a hypothetical, and that's it.
So what happens next? Wait for a new Asus or Samsung phone? Pick up a GN2, actual Optimus G, GS3? Switch to WP8 or iOS? Go back to the Gnex? Stick with the Nexus 4 and ride out its shortcomings? Live in denial, cursing reviewers?
Just wondering.
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According to one of the guys writing the review for Android Police, there's an update coming out November 11th to finalize the software of their phones. Also like another user said, their current test build didn't include certain features and even when Matias Duarte did the demo for the verge, he said it wasn't the final product. Even though its not final yet, everyone has said that the phone is second to none in speed. Everyone is stressing out over nothing.
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Hero_Guy said:
Everyone is stressing out over nothing.
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That's what forums are for
Hero_Guy said:
According to one of the guys writing the review for Android Police, there's an update coming out November 11th to finalize the software of their phones. Also like another user said, their current test build didn't include certain features and even when Matias Duarte did the demo for the verge, he said it wasn't the final product. Even though its not final yet, everyone has said that the phone is second to none in speed. Everyone is stressing out over nothing.
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Awesome news. Source?
Honestly, even if.. so what? I sell my gnex 200$ buy that phone for 300$ so effectively pay 100$ for a phone that the current benchmarks are 10 times better than the gnex... I'd gladly pay 100$ a year for that kind of upgrade.
Wow. Okay. I really didn't think I'd have to say this again, but: I am not saying that the complaints are going to stick. I'm not asking for the probability that they will; other people have discussed that ad nauseam elsewhere. I'm just asking, honestly: if the worst happens, and it isn't a pre-production/software issue, and the phone only gets 5.5 hours battery life, and is beaten half the time on benchmarks by last-gen phones, what's the call? What would you guys do, in that situation? I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm trying to honestly attempt to consider a possible situation.
Its simple: N4 got same hardware as Optimus G, which means hardware cant be a reason for scoring lower on benchmarks. Since hardware cant be a reason, it can be software. Those Nexus 4 on tests doesnt have some 4.2 features yet, so you can clearly see that this isnt final software yet.
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The battery definitely should be a software issue. I have a feeling that something is causing the CPU or GPU to not be able to fully downclock on idle which is causing both the battery and heat issues. Though really, the phone should be designed so that it doesn't overheat even when it's running at 100%.
N4 got same hardware as Optimus G,
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What if the hardware is NOT the same?
Maybe N4 has cheaper, slower RAM, less memory bandwidth, binned lower efficient processor,...
It could very well be possible that N4 uses inferior components to enable this awesome cheap price.
MarkusL81 said:
What if the hardware is NOT the same?
Maybe N4 has cheaper, slower RAM, less memory bandwidth, binned lower efficient processor,...
It could very well be possible that N4 uses inferior components to enable this awesome cheap price.
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That's not how a SoC works though... The components are set in stone, not interchangeable
I'm on the GN LTE. It sucks but I can live with it until I figure out the situation with the N4. I rushed into the GN when it first came out without waiting for critical review. Huge mistake.
I won't repeat that with the N4. I'll wait at least a few weeks after the release to see how the reviews play out.
I really hope the N4 can be my next phone. The price is just right. I don't see any good alternative other than paying nearly double for a Note II or S III.
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That's not how a SoC works though... The components are set in stone, not interchangeable
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And there could be different versions of the SoC. Was any model confirmed beyond it being a S4 Pro? There could very will be multiple versions of the the S4 Pro.
The chips have been confirmed to be the same.