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I asked about a few things and Elocity answered all of my questions.
I have to say they are trying for sure and I think if we collectively give them a chance they will give you good service.
Here is a response to my question about 3.0 or gingerbread,
Hello Robert
The A7 can be upgraded to Android 2.3 though it will not be upgraded to Android 3.0. We will be posting the upgrade notice on the website and also keep all our customers who've registered on the website notified by email.
So there you have it. Official word is no 3.0 but they will upgrade us to gingerbread. I would have loved 3.0 and I hope the people on this forum will help make that happen but it is nice to know that we will at least get another upgrade to the latest available with our hardware specs. They gave me no indication of when this will happen but at least it is in the works.
Personally I am very happy with their response. Compared to other manufacturers at least they are giving us some updates and to me that is a very good sign.
I am now very happy with my purchase. When I bought the a7 I thought 3.0 would run but there was no guarantee of it when I bought the device so it was my risk but even so the fact we will continue to get updates is very promising. When 3.0 comes out maybe in time they may change their stance or maybe google will fork 3.0 for tabs and phones and we will keep getting the phone updates. I am not sure but I just wanted to have at least one OS upgrade as there are a lot of perks in 2.3 over 2.2 so if I am stuck with that version officially at least it is a good version to have and will be able to utilize this tabs hardware properly. Considering I paid $300 for this device I am very happy with it. It does a lot for the money. Now with updates I feel very happy with the Streams initial efforts. We will see if they keep it up. Thanks to Dexter's help this device is great. They made a little blunder in the beginning but they are trying so I am going to give them my support as a customer and not return the a7.
Rob
Elocity Support
Wish that they would answer me. I asked a question several weeks ago and just recieved a note that they got the messages but no response to the question.
My question was about a fixfor the gsenser
E-mail them again!
According to them they had a glitch with an e-mail server and did not receive any of our e-mails until a short while ago. So either they are going in order and will get to you or maybe it just got lost in the process. I would e-mail them again and I am sure you will get a faster response.
All I am saying and I was not praising them for great service because frankly it is just starting to become good is you can see they are trying to address our concerns. As long as they are giving a real effort then I say give em a little slack. If they were truly ignoring us or would continue to do so then I would have a completely different opinion.
We will see with time if they do what they say but I have no reason to doubt them. They have already given the a7 a couple of firmware updates I am aware of.
In any case I hope your problem gets resolved soon.
What is the problem with the g-sensor in your unit??
Rob
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Wish that they would answer me. I asked a question several weeks ago and just recieved a note that they got the messages but no response to the question.
My question was about a fixfor the gsenser
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Yeah, the g-sensor is all messed up in some of the games I've tried. You tilt it one eay it goes another.
I keep reading post about people being "scared" that acer isn't going to update as fast as they would like. Or their is no Restore yet, bootloaders and other minor annoyances.
One thing I see is request for USB charging. Will never happen, the Acer's dual 3650mah batteries would never get charged under the .5 load that a usb port can supply, I doubt a usb port would even be able to turn the machine on. A quick look at the ac adapter shows it's putting out 12v and 1.5amp and that's capable of charging my machine from about 25% to 100% in about 2 hours. Thats very respectable in my eyes since I can run a full 10-12 hours with really moderate to heavy use (Video's/Music/Games) wifi always on and screen set to auto brightness.
Besides I didn't buy my acer for the software that it came with, I bought it because of the hardware. The Xoom Asus and Acer are pretty much twins as far as respective hardware. If your going to nit pick something, the xoom's SD card doesnt even function, the acer's does. And the Asus transformer lacks USB host all together if I understand correctly, I can't begin to imagine the fun things that could be done when the dev's start tweaking the kernel and making 3rd party apps as well that are capable of using both usb ports on the A500, esp if the mini usb is capable of being switched on as a host as well.. (god i wish i could program my ideas)
As far as the locked boot loader issue goes, it'll get unlocked, as well as recovery, it will come. Even if Acer decided to be a complete ass and never reaveal any flaws in their code base, someone will get it accomplished.
I got the HTC inspire as soon as it was released for AT&T, no recovery, locked bootloader. I lurked on the fourms and saw a mirror of the exact same thing here, i'm scared... im returning mine for this, this or that. Now look at the inspire; there are tons of rom's, and dev support is flourshing.
I'm staying with my A500. I've had it 1 week this Friday, and my until has had no battery drain issues, gps or any other bad issues I've read others having. i have rooted mine, renamed phone / telephony .apk > .bak, and it did help battery some. For the most part I wonder what some of these people are running in the background. (even live wallpapers can seriously strain the battery with the device idle. A good example is the Asus water live wallpaper that has been hacked to work with the A500)
My biggest problem with mine is the market refusing to download and install apps I find until I kill the MyApps service and task, then it works for a few downloads, then refuses again..
I can't see returning something with fairly minor software annoyances that will eventually get fixed anyway. Now granted I love to get under the hood and tinker (I am not a dev though) I see promise in Acer's future with this tablet.
I really can't justify buying a $599 Xoom when it's spec'ed the same as the acer, and has it's own shortcomings that readily already works with the A500.
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it's the "hey, look at me look at me look at me" syndrome.
either you buy it, you don't. if you've already got it, you either keep it or you don't.
if you're so scared to drop $450-600 for something then you're never going to be satisfied. me, originally, i bought this to hold me over til the 32gb transformer came out, but the more i play with it--despite it's shortcomings--the more i like it. the screen is really nice, much nicer than i was led to believe due to various "reviews" on the 'net.
it's no ipad screen but then again, what other tablet in this form factor even comes close to the ipad screen?
people need to stop crying so much and learn to live with what they've got. i didn't exactly NEED this tablet, and i could have very well continued living without it so i really don't understand these folks who are just itching to spend money on something just so they can cry about it online.
Acer A500 Ace Enough ?
I think your query is 100% valid. Here in Australia we have the Galaxy Tab 10.1v out but in very short supply, no Xoom yet, so I bought the Acer A500 then got offered a Galaxy but am still waiting for the delivery, I also have an iPad2.
Based on honeycomb alone I like it better than the iOS on the iPad 2, but iOS is really a few years old now and honeycomb is new.
Add in the ACER's native USB that works with drives or keyboards etc, a working microsSD, and the Acer is a force to be dealt with even at more money.
I look forward to the Galaxy but the Acer feels like old hardware with a new operating system, whilst the iPad2 for instance feels like new hardware with an old OS.
Here in oz, I am more concerned at the lag of accessories / cases for anything other than the iPad2
The only hardware issue I have is that it doesn't charge by USB and you get a small residual charge when using it whilst connected to the power
If I was doing it all over again the galaxy tab 10.1v is likely to have been worth waiting for, and might be selling my Acer on eBay less than a week after purchase.
But only if I can get the idea of the working microsSD - not on any tablet yet (but the Xoom should be working in the future) , and USB.. the idea of plugging a usb stick in a tablet is soooo good.
I also find using the Acer as a PDF reader much better than the iPad2 (a big deal for me) and finally I find the bigger bezel and wider viewable screen, better onthe acer than the apple especially when typing.
Live wallpaper is awesome on the acer.
Typing is so much better on the Acer.. iOS 5 has a lot of ground to make up for.
So Galaxy I expect to be better than the Acer, in build quality but not features.
Between the Xoom and the Acer, I do not get the point of the price difference for the Xoom .
Hope that diatribe helps
@mr_internet
In my case I sent it back because I am scared about the Iconia
bootloader is strictly closed at the moment and its
build quality (mine creaked on the right backside just where the border is - heard from few people having the same problem)
and in addition I had the chance to
get a Motorola Xoom at the same price as the Iconia - and because of its
great developer base plus the freedom to customize it in any way
I have choosen the Xoom about the Iconia.
On The Fence
I'm concerned about a few things but nothing major:
1. The "wobbly" charging pin failing once I'm out of warranty - I've had this kind of charging pin on a (admittedly) crappy Archos and returned it to BB.
2. The lack of accessories
The software doesn't bother me since I rooted (easiest root I ever did) the devs will ultimately prevail - what does bother me is if the devs lose interest - then we're dead in the water.
...Probably because people aren't getting the attention from the public they thought they would from buying a tablet. I figure Apple sold so many for that reason...
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I keep reading post about people being "scared" that acer isn't going to update as fast as they would like. Or their is no Restore yet, bootloaders and other minor annoyances.
Input please?
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When you drop $450 on a device on impulse, you look for reasons to take it back. Plain and simple. I believe a majority of people purchasing the Acer A500 were looking forward to the Transformer. When that didn't come (properly, anyway) they hurriedly got the A500 on impulse because it was available.
I think we all know how impulse purchases go. We practically sit there and look for reasons to return the device because we know it's something that we didn't REALLY think through thoroughly and I suppose the responsible part of our psyche becomes hyperactive. Everything and anything becomes a problem and we start seeing issues that aren't really there (not saying this is true of everyone).
The people who returned their A500s are likely serial returners, ie: people who regularly impulse buy and return stuff and between the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the other Honeycomb tablets coming in June, there's going to be plenty fodder for them to get through before they finally settle on a device. There's nothing wrong with that as it's their money and they should spend it how they see fit. There's also the fact that some people are genuinely having software or hardware issues and simply lost confidence in the device.
So why are people returning it? It's all relative. Some people have/had hardware issues. Some are having software issues that they'd rather not wait to see fixed. And some are looking for something "better" to come along down the line.
i took mine back for more than a few reasons
the bulk, it was uncomfortable to hold
the short charging cable
the weird dot grid on the screen
and lastly not knowing how acer was going to handle updates
the biggest reason, the battery life
i liked the device it is just as fast as the xoom, the iconia is a good device but just wasn't for me.
i hope acer does you all that still have it right with the updates
I won't be returning mine. I love this device. I've been on Android for a little over two years and have seen devices come and go. This device does have some flaws like the short charging cable and the strong solid fact that it isn't the Transformer. To be honest why does everyone want the the Transformer over the Iconia? Because it has a keyboard dock with an extended battery plus USB function for an additional 150$? To me thats a waste. Or that fact that no one knows how Acer will handle the Android updates? Okay, that's valid but what about ASUS, they are still unknown to the Android arena. Maybe the dots on the screen that are on all touch screen devices like the Transformer and Xoom are the reasons. Maybe one day the very small development team will stop doing such? So download the Android SDK and have at it. The lack of accessories is a big reason, give it time the device just hit the shelves. There are probably millions more and more to come. I just don't get it, this is a very good device that can do practically the same things as all the other devices. The other reason I'm not returning it is the fact that at first I wanted the Transformer but the more I started to contrast the device instead of comparing, I started seeing that the Iconia does in fact offer a little bit more to it users but it is up the the users to decide.
Maybe those that are so scared should stick to buying APPLE products , dont worry Steve Jobs will decide for you what you need and when you need it!
My god Ive never seen so many babies!
I thought it was bad in the Windows Phone 7 forum , but in here its even worse ,the "if I dont get my updates I'm telling mommy" crowd is really annoying!
Maybe its because I was around when the first PCs and Macs came about ,maybe thats why Im more patient , I like to figure it out myself , I hate products that are already "Made" Like the Ipad, nothing to do with it, most of the people in here need an ipad if they want a tablet , they dont have to put any sweat into it!
To all the devs way to go , Im pretty sure if they just gave up because the bootloader wasnt available the Iconia would never make it, none of these Android tablet would make it!
I have to say this forum is the same as the Xoom with everyone second guessing the device, well I had the Xoom, infact I had two Xooms, the first one had wifi problems that developed over time and it eventually took anywhere from 30 seconds to one minute to connect to my wifi.
I had the second one up until yesterday when it completely froze up and nothing would help it. I did a factory reset and everything, finally after a hour setting turned off, I turned it on and it did come back up but the problem's continued with the wifi not working, and the screen became unresponsive. To me the Xoom with it's nonworking Micro SD and all of the other problem's it had was just not worth $589.99 at all, and that was just the wifi only version.
As for all the people complaining about how heavy the Acer is well you have not had a Xoom in your hands, this thing is not heavy at all, I purchased this right after I returned my Xoom to Amazon yesterday and this is a delight to hold next to the Xoom, I was waiting for the Toshiba tab but after reading many things about it and the use of their own market feature I decided to forgo that one and as for Samsung well I tried that one when AT&T sold it for $650.00 when it came out the very first time and all my downloaded apps kept disappearing from it every time I would turn it on. Was told it was a known problem but had no fix for it, both from AT&T and Samsung, needless to say I got rid of it!!
As for the little dots on the screen that the one guy took his Acer back over, all I can say is WOW, I have the exact same dot's on my Inspire, they are sensors that are built into the screen for better touch response!!!!!
Sounds like most share the OP's sentiment, myself included. Yes, I thought I wanted the Asus, but when I did a comparison, the Acer was superior. I bought the device because I was already an Android junkie, thanks to my Evo (CM7-powered). Can you say wireless tether? I knew you could.
I wanted a larger form factor for use at the office, and it gets a workout. I have my Exchange email and my Office documents - perfect for the manager type that I am. Having an instant-on device that I can use for meeting notes is something I've wanted for a long time (yeah, a pen and paper works, but I tend to lose those notes).
Yes, it's nice to play Angry Birds, too. The HDMI connection to my 60-inch LED television makes that experience almost religious.
Having a rooted device is a plus, because that brings Titanium Backup into play, and I find that very valuable.
Add in Pandora, my Music (Google Music this week, too!), and movies on the device just completes the package for me - it's an excellent travel device.
There's quite a bit of nit-picking over features, but what it boils down to is this: do you USE the device? Does it work for YOU? If so, great. If not, return it, try something else. If it's better, please let us know.
Then check back in a year, and let us know how it's going. Technology moves too fast to try to keep up with the latest features. Pick your poison, and make the most of it. Regret is for sissies.
Hows the hdmi working? Havent tried that sound good though
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Sounds like most share the OP's sentiment, myself included. Yes, I thought I wanted the Asus, but when I did a comparison, the Acer was superior. I bought the device because I was already an Android junkie, thanks to my Evo (CM7-powered). Can you say wireless tether? I knew you could.
I wanted a larger form factor for use at the office, and it gets a workout. I have my Exchange email and my Office documents - perfect for the manager type that I am. Having an instant-on device that I can use for meeting notes is something I've wanted for a long time (yeah, a pen and paper works, but I tend to lose those notes).
Yes, it's nice to play Angry Birds, too. The HDMI connection to my 60-inch LED television makes that experience almost religious.
Having a rooted device is a plus, because that brings Titanium Backup into play, and I find that very valuable.
Add in Pandora, my Music (Google Music this week, too!), and movies on the device just completes the package for me - it's an excellent travel device.
There's quite a bit of nit-picking over features, but what it boils down to is this: do you USE the device? Does it work for YOU? If so, great. If not, return it, try something else. If it's better, please let us know.
Then check back in a year, and let us know how it's going. Technology moves too fast to try to keep up with the latest features. Pick your poison, and make the most of it. Regret is for sissies.
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I have to say this forum is the same as the Xoom with everyone second guessing the device, well I had the Xoom, infact I had two Xooms, the first one had wifi problems that developed over time and it eventually took anywhere from 30 seconds to one minute to connect to my wifi.
I had the second one up until yesterday when it completely froze up and nothing would help it. I did a factory reset and everything, finally after a hour setting turned off, I turned it on and it did come back up but the problem's continued with the wifi not working, and the screen became unresponsive. To me the Xoom with it's nonworking Micro SD and all of the other problem's it had was just not worth $589.99 at all, and that was just the wifi only version.
As for all the people complaining about how heavy the Acer is well you have not had a Xoom in your hands, this thing is not heavy at all, I purchased this right after I returned my Xoom to Amazon yesterday and this is a delight to hold next to the Xoom, I was waiting for the Toshiba tab but after reading many things about it and the use of their own market feature I decided to forgo that one and as for Samsung well I tried that one when AT&T sold it for $650.00 when it came out the very first time and all my downloaded apps kept disappearing from it every time I would turn it on. Was told it was a known problem but had no fix for it, both from AT&T and Samsung, needless to say I got rid of it!!
As for the little dots on the screen that the one guy took his Acer back over, all I can say is WOW, I have the exact same dot's on my Inspire, they are sensors that are built into the screen for better touch response!!!!!
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Good to see over here Moe Well, I too am keeping my Acer. It's too early in the game to be worried about updates and/or recovery. I "MAY" consider the Galaxy Tab as my return policy ends on June 7th, the day before it's released. The micro sd and usb are biggies for me. I also have to see what the pricepoint of the Galaxy Tab will be like. I'm still recovering from my Captivate though....
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Good to see over here Moe Well, I too am keeping my Acer. It's too early in the game to be worried about updates and/or recovery. I "MAY" consider the Galaxy Tab as my return policy ends on June 7th, the day before it's released. The micro sd and usb are biggies for me. I also have to see what the pricepoint of the Galaxy Tab will be like. I'm still recovering from my Captivate though....
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Great to see that you are here lrs421, with all the great help from you and Bubby to get my Inspire rooted it is great to hear from you again, well if I ever need any help with this thing at least there is one person I know I can count on. I am not sure I will ever try a Samsung tab again since I has such trouble with that first Galaxy tab I had and the worthless Samsung tech support!!! I still have a eye on that Toshiba tab, I just cannot get over wanting it, kind of like a itch I cannot scratch!!!! Plus a removable battery is another thing that sounds good also!!!
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Great to see that you are here lrs421, with all the great help from you and Bubby to get my Inspire rooted it is great to hear from you again, well if I ever need any help with this thing at least there is one person I know I can count on. I am not sure I will ever try a Samsung tab again since I has such trouble with that first Galaxy tab I had and the worthless Samsung tech support!!! I still have a eye on that Toshiba tab, I just cannot get over wanting it, kind of like a itch I cannot scratch!!!! Plus a removable battery is another thing that sounds good also!!!
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No prob I'm still learning alot about this tab as well.
This is my point exactly regarding the galaxy tab and "others". I see these threads popping up a lot lately about people keeping or returning tabs, waiting or upgrading, etc, etc. I've spent a lot of time in the Galaxy, ASUS, G Tablet and Xoom forums, in each one it's all the same; some happy people and some not so happy people. IMO, the perfect android tablet simply doesn't exist yet. Futhermore, we have to give these things a little time to evolve, it's only been a few weeks and in the hands of a few devs, albeit capable devs. I've rooted and hacked my Inspire to within an inch of it's life so I really don't mind running the Acer stock until things get sorted out. Those of you considering jumping ship, spend some time in the other forums and see what I mean.
I was torn between the Xoom and the Acer having returned my third transformer because of build quality issues (its a long story).
So I spent about 20 mins playing with each one in PCWorld (uk) today.
I have to say, I have come down on the side of the Acer for a number of reasons, yes there is the obvious ones of microsd, usb connectivity and hosting and of course the fact that it's about 30 quid cheaper in the UK.
But also the form factor was a big influence in my choice. Yes, I know it's a bit heavy but that extra frame real estate is a big help in holding the device in one hand.
I am a big guy with pretty big hands, and when holding the Xoom in one hand, because the bezel is so narrow, my thumb is actually on the touchscreen activating what ever is underneath it, the wider bezel on the Acer means this doesn't happen. Plenty of space for my thumb allowing for a wider holding position, and (because of something to do with fulcrums) as far as I was concerned, greater comfort.
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No prob I'm still learning alot about this tab as well.
This is my point exactly regarding the galaxy tab and "others". I see these threads popping up a lot lately about people keeping or returning tabs, waiting or upgrading, etc, etc. I've spent a lot of time in the Galaxy, ASUS, G Tablet and Xoom forums, in each one it's all the same; some happy people and some not so happy people. IMO, the perfect android tablet simply doesn't exist yet. Futhermore, we have to give these things a little time to evolve, it's only been a few weeks and in the hands of a few devs, albeit capable devs. I've rooted and hacked my Inspire to within an inch of it's life so I really don't mind running the Acer stock until things get sorted out. Those of you considering jumping ship, spend some time in the other forums and see what I mean.
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I agree, I just picked up the Acer yesterday because it is available and a good product, but there is alot of ppl returning it hoping for better. I spent alot of time watching the Asus boards and it's the same over there, theres also alot of problems with the tranformer that Asus definately could have fixed before releasing it, and you can't get one. I am hoping that shear numbers of units sold will help out the Acer here, as the general majority of dev support seems to be heavily wieghted towards the transformer. I'm still not sure that ill keep the Acer, but once we get recovery I think ill be very comfortable keeping it.
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...Probably because people aren't getting the attention from the public they thought they would from buying a tablet. I figure Apple sold so many for that reason...
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I got married to a porn star the same day I bought my tablet man, they're chick magnets.
On a more serious note, I dunno, it's a solid device for me. There are issues, and I think forums generally tend to be populated with the more vocal(obviously) people as well as bringing about mob mentality. If the Xoom all of a sudden dropped to the same price at Bestbuy, I might consider an exchange, sure. Motorola has a proven support record for tabs. Acer is an unknown, and their PC's were never that great IMO either.
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Hows the hdmi working? Havent tried that sound good though
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Perfectly. Just plug it in and go.
Well, I need to be honest, I'm not high on Asus's support. Figured I'd share this with the community since it's amusing, but a bit of an eye opener as to what kind of support you will be getting if you contact Asus.
I called Asus today because there is a small wedge between the frame and the tablet (it came like this). It looks like I could probably push it in, but I'd rather not risk breaking it and REALLY be screwed.
The guy asked if it was OK if they reinstalled the software. I asked why and he said in the event this is a software issue, that they would need to re-image the device. So I asked how could a physical defect be caused by software, and he said they sometimes find that issues like this are caused by software.
I can post pictures if necessary, but I was just shocked that Asus would say something as silly as that.
Unless of course... the Transformer literally is a Transformer...
Asus tech support is not the best... I had really bad experience with my graphics card last year. So I just gave up and sold the graphics card on ebay. I hope that I won't have to go through their support on my TF.
Mike
Well contrary to these few unfortunate experiences, I sent my TF into Asus last week on Wednesday, it got to their Support Site in TX (I live in NY) on Friday the 13th. I had the SOD issue that some others are experiencing which was really just a dead backlight. I just checked my RMA status and it said "Repairing" then about an hour later I got an email notification from Asus saying my TF shipped today.
This seems fairly quick turnaround for fixing my TF. Hopefully I get it back without any issues. I'll keep you all updated.
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Well, I need to be honest, I'm not high on Asus's support. Figured I'd share this with the community since it's amusing, but a bit of an eye opener as to what kind of support you will be getting if you contact Asus.
I called Asus today because there is a small wedge between the frame and the tablet (it came like this). It looks like I could probably push it in, but I'd rather not risk breaking it and REALLY be screwed.
The guy asked if it was OK if they reinstalled the software. I asked why and he said in the event this is a software issue, that they would need to re-image the device. So I asked how could a physical defect be caused by software, and he said they sometimes find that issues like this are caused by software.
I can post pictures if necessary, but I was just shocked that Asus would say something as silly as that.
Unless of course... the Transformer literally is a Transformer...
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You were probably talking to a front line "tech support" person. Universally these people have standard scripts that they must adhere to. They have to get you're OK on these things because it's on the list not because they acutally think that software could be causing a hardware defect. On the other hand it could be a real transformer and they just haven't told us yet and are waiting unil it has a chance to infect all of our other household electronics and rise up against us.
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You were probably talking to a front line "tech support" person. Universally these people have standard scripts that they must adhere to. They have to get you're OK on these things because it's on the list not because they acutally think that software could be causing a hardware defect. On the other hand it could be a real transformer and they just haven't told us yet and are waiting unil it has a chance to infect all of our other household electronics and rise up against us.
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I used to work in Tech Support when it was more domestically based. I'm familiar with the scripts.
I also had to deal directly with support in India when I worked as a field tech, so I'm well aware. Some companies are better than others. I'm not sure if it's better script writing, better training, or what, but Asus's had to be some of the worst.
Just be prepared for it. I'll be sending mine in 1 week from Tuesday when I return from a business trip / small vacation. I'll let everyone know how well it goes and if my unit comes back "different".
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Unless of course... the Transformer literally is a Transformer...
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Is there really any doubt? Mine turns into a submarine, but I think they're all different. Just wait, you'll discover yours soon enough...
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wynand32 said:
Is there really any doubt? Mine turns into a submarine, but I think they're all different. Just wait, you'll discover yours soon enough...
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Mine turned into a tablet.
I was slightly disappointed.
Mine finally transformed tonight, into a serving tray.
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Mine finally transformed tonight, into a serving tray.
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See? I told you!
Tards are gonna tard. All you can do is hope that you can get to level 2 or higher support.
my tech asked me if i was running windows 7 <sigh>
ASUS support has been perfect for me... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1083184
I'm still fighting them trying to get them to provide a shipping label (dust behind screen). Although they ask about the software thing because some people send their unit in password protected.
But yeah, I'm waiting for a supervisor to call me back. God damn India.
I'm trying to RMA mine at the moment, for a defective PSU and case creek.
They have asked for pictures of the problem........
I sent them an e-mail almost two weeks ago about some of the problems most of us are experiencing....and I never even got a response lol.
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Mine turned into a tablet.
I was slightly disappointed.
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That's better than a paperweight.
I just registered my Transformer online and their site was embarrassing.
It really can't cost that much to have a decent English translator...
I mean, when I finished it said something like "Registration is success!"
Wow, nice.
I know Asus reads these forums. As an Android Platform developer, they seem to be doing the right thing, with 3.1 coming out.
Considering this tablet was originally going to be released with Froyo on it, then upgraded to HC, I had a feeling they'd be down with the updates (yay for 3.1 in June).
If you never have to call support, you'll think Asus was the best company ever!
I have been reading this forum for a lot of time, but have only recently began posting and following it on a daily basis, since I wanted a tablet.
I followed this subsectionbefore it even existed XD, suffered with everybody waiting for the TF to be released, then the difficulties on getting them,the problems with first OTA updates and the bugs / problems you guys have encountered.
Scared of the problems I began thinking on other tablets: the Iconia, the Xoom and Tab 10.1. The Xoom was the first out of my list, because of the high retail price, no stock SD support and "normal" screen. Then the tab was discarded... no SD, no USB, no HDMI... too much an iPad experience for me. But I liked the Iconia, and played with it (even before I could see the TF) and liked everything I saw... but the locked bootloader was a minus, and although I liked the screen I was sure the TF one would be better.
I am from Spain,and I wanted to get the tablet on my travel t the US. One more reason to be scared off the TF... what if it has any problem?
So I arrived to NY and had the chance to see the Tab 10.1 on BB. Went to J&R and saw 4 TF 10.1. Ok I'll think about it. 2 days later I came back and no one was available :-(. I asked then and they told me the following day were expecting both, the 16gb and the 32 gb versions, plus the dock. So I called them on the afternoon and they had them. I went there and picked up a 16 gb one (there were 5 the moment I arraived and just 2 when I left).
The unpacking was a disappointment: the plastic envelope was dirty and full of fingertips. The TF was like new, the docs seemed like someone hadbalready browsed them, and the charger looked new. But it was strange: I had read about problems with it and how you had to snap to parts together for it to work; but the one that came with my TF was already snapped (maybe asus taking notes of the problems?). And it was brand new.
Well, I started testing the tablet to be able to return it if necessary... Somelight bleed (not bothersome to me), right speaker somewhat louder than left one, but no SOD, excelent battery life, and updated OTA to 3.1 without a problem.
I can't be any happier. If anyone is, as I was, fearing the worst, don't hesitate anymore and get one right now!
Thanks to all the posters, since their excellent feedback helped me take decision.
If I can do anything for anyone, please just ask.
Regards.
welcome to the club.
Welcome!
IF you are not afraid to do so....Root your tab ( same as Jail-breaking pretty much ) and then you can fix your speaker problem yourself by visiting this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118010
It works wonderfully!
Enjoy your new toy!!!!!
Went through the same road you have. And I am waiting for my set 16GB + dock to arrive to my shops (all of them have only 32GB version with or without dock).
I am just thinking that maybe I should wait a bit longer and get a 3G ver...?
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Welcome!
IF you are not afraid to do so....Root your tab ( same as Jail-breaking pretty much ) and then you can fix your speaker problem yourself by visiting this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118010
It works wonderfully!
Enjoy your new toy!!!!!
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Thanks for your advice!
Sorry for being so late answering you but I'm travelling and cannot get all the internet time I wished. BTW I was pretty near your location sunday and monday. Went to Niagara falls... Awesome! But I don't know what I liked most, the falls or the endless row of cars and bikes that I saw there.
Rooting is the first thing I want to do as soon as I can. Will check that solution to the speaker-bias.
Regards.
but the one that came with my TF was already snapped (maybe asus taking notes of the problems?). And it was brand new.
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My first TF came with the pieces detached. The second came with the pieces attached. I think they though that some users may be especially stupid or the mechanism especially flimsy and decided to eliminate the possibility of failure by conveniently snapping it together for you.
You can still detach them though I believe.
Fingerprints on the plastic are normal. It's happened with both of my units. Just happens when they're wrapping the units probably.
dont panic about the charger being pre-clipped ... lots of people have stated this
Hope you enjoy your purchase
thanks to everybody for the info.
I am reading all I can.
Regards.
So we all know about the cracked edges issue, and you've probably also heard that even the "new batch" and the LTE model are still prone to cracking.
Yesterday I posted a petition on the geforce forum to bring attention to the issue and to demand a statement from NVIDIA regarding what their plan is to rectify the issue. Today I was shadowbanned, which means that nothing informed me that I was banned, but all my posts and threads are not visible to anyone else. So now the petition is down a black hole. I have NO IDEA why I was banned, but it was likely an attempt to erase the petition, as I didn't do anything inflammatory in the past couple days, and this is not a normal account suspension (those let you know you're temp banned). This is a shady shadowban where they don't want anyone to know that I'm banned. They just want to silently erase every post and thread I've ever made.
Here's where I need your help. Nvidia is obviously trying to sweep the continuing cracked edge saga under the rug. I would appreciate it if anyone who also frequents the nvidia community could make a new topic to start a new petition to demand a response about the cracked edges, and also to let people know what happened to me.
We shouldn't let them get away with this. Thanks.
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So we all know about the cracked edges issue, and you've probably also heard that even the "new batch" and the LTE model are still prone to cracking.
Yesterday I posted a petition on the geforce forum to bring attention to the issue and to demand a statement from NVIDIA regarding what their plan is to rectify the issue. Today I was shadowbanned, which means that nothing informed me that I was banned, but all my posts and threads are not visible to anyone else. So now the petition is down a black hole. I have NO IDEA why I was banned, but it was likely an attempt to erase the petition, as I didn't do anything inflammatory in the past couple days, and this is not a normal account suspension (those let you know you're temp banned). This is a shady shadowban where they don't want anyone to know that I'm banned. They just want to silently erase every post and thread I've ever made.
Here's where I need your help. Nvidia is obviously trying to sweep the continuing cracked edge saga under the rug. I would appreciate it if anyone who also frequents the nvidia community could make a new topic to start a new petition to demand a response about the cracked edges, and also to let people know what happened to me.
We shouldn't let them get away with this. Thanks.
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Yes I saw that this morning. Quite disgraceful. I see they deleted your thread on Gamergate too some days ago.
If this is the way that Nvidia conducts both its Android device business and its customer support forums then it has lost me completely as a potential customer. This action is the last straw for me, my decision is made to totally avoid Nvidia, I shall delete my GeForce forum bookmarks and not visit there anymore. I do not wish to be part of that debacle any longer.
All in all it is a shabby state of affairs.
ps I have seen you over on FreakTab, I am considering PiPO as the way for me to go next.
I hear yea' man, this isn't cool.
My device burnt me and must of been near combustion, and is now finally after two months crumbling at the corners.
When speaking to support, they were LYING TO ME and just running me through a loop.
"The issue has been resolved in the new replacements"
"Uhh, I was just on YOUR forums reading the opposite... "
Like, they didn't even have to lie to me...
I would of been civil and tried to work something out.
But instead they just want to keep sending out disfunctional and DANGEROUS items and tell me it's okay now?
No, it's not. I have a daughter about to be born and I'd rather not have a fire / choking hazard around.
I sort of wanted to like use the thing to help teach my daughter things through a touch interface, but you know.
I'm scared it'll kill her.
What a freakin' shame.
And to be shadow banning is beyond corrupt now.
Do they think we're all complete idiots who can't communicate if we're blocked somewhere?
That the issue will go away?
Give me back my money and apologizing for wasting my time, lying to us.
Criminal.
Decided to go green for GPU's this year (I sell prebuilds on the side).
WELL, that was a short ride.
PS 4k Downsampling has always been possible on any modern gpu, don't let Nvidia fool you into thinking it's a 900 series feature.
Another thing you likely won't hear make the news articles.
ShortwaveTech said:
I hear yea' man, this isn't cool.
My device burnt me and must of been near combustion, and is now finally after two months crumbling at the corners.
When speaking to support, they were LYING TO ME and just running me through a loop.
"The issue has been resolved in the new replacements"
"Uhh, I was just on YOUR forums reading the opposite... "
Like, they didn't even have to lie to me...
I would of been civil and tried to work something out.
But instead they just want to keep sending out disfunctional and DANGEROUS items and tell me it's okay now?
No, it's not. I have a daughter about to be born and I'd rather not have a fire / choking hazard around.
I sort of wanted to like use the thing to help teach my daughter things through a touch interface, but you know.
I'm scared it'll kill her.
What a freakin' shame.
And to be shadow banning is beyond corrupt now.
Do they think we're all complete idiots who can't communicate if we're blocked somewhere?
That the issue will go away?
Give me back my money and apologizing for wasting my time, lying to us.
Criminal.
Decided to go green for GPU's this year (I sell prebuilds on the side).
WELL, that was a short ride.
PS 4k Downsampling has always been possible on any modern gpu, don't let Nvidia fool you into thinking it's a 900 series feature.
Another thing you likely won't hear make the news articles.
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I don't know if you have an account on geforce forum, but please post the same thing there. we need to voice our opinion on this and be more proactive. warn others if nvidia doesnt respond. it is ridiculous.
Your posts are back on the forum, and it shows you are now suspended.
Does it tell you for how long?
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Your posts are back on the forum, and it shows you are now suspended.
Does it tell you for how long?
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HHAAAA. Maybe they were like...
"Oh **** these really hardcore techies (the only people who would use their forums) are on to us just trying to make them vanish and it's making us look like even bigger assholes!"
Uh, yea. I will head over there tomorrow... Gunna' wait for them to ship the new one.. I was going to sell it since they won't refund but then again I wouldn't feel right selling it to anyone.
Had to tell some kids in the gaming section to hold off on buying it, then showed them mine. They were ranting about it and how they can't wait till' they can get one. HA.
"Yoooou guys might wanna' hold off on that one.." They were so confused something like this even made it to market, even as kids. Not idiots.
---------- Post added at 10:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:51 PM ----------
"Hey everyone,
Thanks again for hanging in there with us. As some of you have noticed we have started replacing faulty units as quickly as we can.
As a token of our appreciation, 200 random customer tablets will be replaced with a SHIELD Tablet 32 GB LTE tablet. This is totally random and once they are gone that's it.
Enjoy,
--Peter"
It's funny because AFTER that I had a rep tell me that wasn't true..
I asked "Is it true you guys are giving people the upgraded version to try to make up for all of this hassle?"
"No".
"Oh, okay."
OP is too right.
I received my replacement quite a while ago, all packaged up nicely with bubbles and tampering tape. Little did I know this was the same model that I had had before. A crack appeared the week after. I had since already returned my tablet to the retailer and now have a cracked RMA'd tablet in my hands.
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OP is too right.
I received my replacement quite a while ago, all packaged up nicely with bubbles and tampering tape. Little did I know this was the same model that I had had before. A crack appeared the week after. I had since already returned my tablet to the retailer and now have a cracked RMA'd tablet in my hands.
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I really wanted this tablet to be good given it's price point and specifications but I'm not interested in the risk given all the complaints and issues. Keep it up! I'm glad the problems are noted in multiple places. I wouldn't rely on their official forums for unbiased comments anyways so keep up the conversation elsewhere where you can't be censored.
Brothers, the least you can do is go make a review on Amazon.com, which is the defacto website where I go to search up reviews before buying the product. This will save other people a lot of headaches. I already did, and you should too.
Thank God I came to XDA before pulling the trigger on one of these. No lie, I was dead set on getting one in the next 30 minutes.
I'm honestly not too surprised either.
Nvidia doesn't have a strong OEM track record either. Most of the time, if you've purchased a 'Nvidia GPU', you're purchasing a card developed by another OEM which uses Nvidia tech/chips. My understanding is that the Shield is Nvidia OEM- it's an Nvidia chip, on an Nvidia board, in an Nvidia-designed hardware unit. In the US, they only seem to sell Nvidia OEM cards at Best Buy (probably for good reason), so I've never seen Nvidia cards anywhere other than Best Buy, which admittedly, can be pretty spotty at times too.
I'm not sure where all these issues are coming from too- all mine has is weak wifi signal. When I'm in decent range of my AC/N router, the signal is great, but it degrades quickly beyond 4ft away. I've dropped this tablet all over the place, and used it for pretty heavy gaming with K1-optimized titles, and I still have no cracks after a month and a half; Can't say the same about my Nexus 7 though, which is in horrific shape.
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Yes I saw that this morning. Quite disgraceful. I see they deleted your thread on Gamergate too some days ago.
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What the heck does gamergate have to do with an nvidia tablet? Easy to see why that was deleted.
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What the heck does gamergate have to do with an nvidia tablet? Easy to see why that was deleted.
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How very interesting.
Is that really your best response to the topic?
It is a shame such a device has the manufacturing issues. I can say from my experience that Nvidia's support is top notch. I had the screen got out after about 6 months on my Shield Portable and they sent me a new one in just a couple of days. They also RMA'ed my Shield Tablet do to cracking with no issues.
I've just ordered one of these tonight, it's being delivered in the morning. After reading about it here which I should have done first, it will be going straight back unopened.
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Thank God I came to XDA before pulling the trigger on one of these. No lie, I was dead set on getting one in the next 30 minutes.
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Thank heavens! Tell your parents, coworkers and your uncle.
Don't support a product that has the company deleting forum posts and ignoring issues altogether.
If you are still interested in one, it might be worth waiting a year or two, until (if) they hit deal sites as refurbs. I bought a Nexus 7 2013 at launch, and it had all sorts of build issues, but two of my team members got refurb models from Woot recently, and both are in a lot better condition than mine was at launch. >_>
Of course the truth differs greatly from the OP's statements.
He got banned for being an obsessive-compulsive and an outright obnoxious troll, not because of some great crackpot conspiracy regarding his petition or whatever. He also got - at least some of the less offensive - posts returned along with being unbanned, but these kind of facts would just ruin a nice story.
Made up stories are made up. Simple as that. There's a few of these cases on every forum and the Shield Tablet section on Nvidia's forum isn't an exception.
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He got banned for being an obsessive-compulsive and an outright obnoxious troll.
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Back up your facts with proof or get the **** out. Simple...
Diesel779 said:
I've just ordered one of these tonight, it's being delivered in the morning. After reading about it here which I should have done first, it will be going straight back unopened.
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It is an excellent tablet. If you have an issue they will replace it. Use the device and draw your own conclusions. Nvidia has a lot of devices out there and this is just one thread with one disgruntled customer. No company is perfect and in my case at least they have done what needed to be done for my issues.