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Hi there, im thinking about the issue that you cant use a background for all tabs in TF3D, so i am trying to find a solution for that.
We need to find out where in TF3D the XML definition of background tiling is, so we could deactivate that, and replace the manila background tile with a normal wallpaper.
What do you think?
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Hi there, im thinking about the issue that you cant use a background for all tabs in TF3D, so i am trying to find a solution for that.
We need to find out where in TF3D the XML definition of background tiling is, so we could deactivate that, and replace the manila background tile with a normal wallpaper.
What do you think?
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That would be great, one of the most annoying things of TF3D is the background only works on the Today screen. I guess another option would be to find the graphic file within the manilla files that contains the default one. I have seen a couple themes where they have changed that default image, I think it was the Orange one.
added to thread subscriptions, maybe we can do this and it will be so much better!
Thanks, look at the Vodafone theme for example, there is a blank white background. Can we customize the original files like this just with a wallpaper?
I found out that there is a 2bd5bb26_manila (Background image only on O2 theme) in the o2 theme.
When we could use this manila file for other themes too, we would have solved the theme problem!
there's one thing i don't really understand here.
in the o2 default blue theme, the gradient background (for all the tabs) is saved as an image of the width of 1 pixel. i tried to substitute it with another, wider image, but it didn't work.
in the htc black theme, on the other hand, there's no direct image for the background, instead, only the tiles are coded somewhere as image files.
how does it work then, i mean how does manila know how the background is encoded, whether it's a 1px-wide image that needs to be stretched or a tile that fits onto the background "floor" or whatever else on other themes?
if we could find the place where it's encoded what (and how) manila uses for the background, then i guess we could play with it a little more
This is what i have found about the background question in TF3D...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2558844&postcount=180
I haven't had any more time on it .. but I think we have to wait until we can change the mania/GLES files...
I hope this can be done
Who needs themes for TF3D anymore i say. Using the themes consumes precious rom, (check before applying ANY theme, and after) and seriously slows TF3D down.
Now with the great works of our developers here, we dun need any. i could seriously kiss a few of theme especially for the "no curtains" cab and "wallpaper4all" cab.
I say, download the "No curtains" cab, Wallpaper4all" and i'd like to add the "RC Mod", and you're all set to make your own theme right there on your device itself.
RC Mod can change the top and bottom control bars of your device with ease to adjust to your theme.
Note: several tsks cant seem to have their top and bottom bars edited, especially HTC Black. Just download another .tsk file, apply it, edit the top and bottom bar, and install all the cabs above, and wa la! your very own theme.
To further customize it, you can download TF3D Tabs Icons. There already are a few uploaded here.
I love doing it this way, cuz i do not handicap my TF3D speed, and i do not handicap my storage space.
I'd like to also suggest that theme developers start exporting their Tab Icons more.
http://heretical-rantings.blogspot.com/2008/10/baronics-compilation-of-non-game-cabs.html
i agree
Still theres alot easier to jus install a theme, but it is so sad that it fills up the rom, i have been carefull about installing new themes after my first hard reset, and just tested, say, about 5 themes, vista theme, orange light theme, the 2 last djoubhaa themes and the jewelery theme. now my rom is down to just about 7 mb. and when i reset to default theme it stays at 24 mb, when it used to be around 60?
i love themes, but not all files seems to be deleted with the apply theme app.
and therefore filling up the rom with useless files taaking up storage space.
I have not installed a single app to the rom either, so it cant be what is causing the pile-up.
I totally agree as well!
Customizing is a nice way to kill time
To spare my fellow readers the searching i have compiled a linklist. There's a lot more of course. This is just to get you started
Background in every tab (wallpaper4all):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432951
No curtains:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2649096&postcount=2
No top curtain:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2650725&postcount=15
No bottom curtain (transparent slidebar):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2699076&postcount=55
Change / Remove carrier name:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359563
RC mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325323
TF3D slidebar icons:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427914
Great Post!!!
OK one thing and I will request it over at the other post as well... but is there a way to put the "curtains" back? I tried it and some of the tabs have junk under the curtain... I will probably use the top curtain one but I can not figur eout how to get the bottom one back...
Thanks,
SoBBie
definitely the only way to go, installing a whole theme seems a bit like overkill to me, so I just change what I wish to go, naimly blank out those top curtains, do the wallpaper & use my own iconset (which can be seen & downloaded here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478066)
oh man...the rc mod is great...thanx a lot for finding this stuff man...lov my diamond a whole lot more now:'(
I have downloaded some of the focus color change files from XDA and found that they were very incomplete, missing many of the other 'green' elements in vanilla black manila, so I made a new one, which includes the focus elements for the landscape icons too. It also has a reg edit to change the enlarged start menu and task manager highlights to gray.
I could make other colors on request.
EDIT the communications menu is NOT orange if you use this with stock HTC black theme (but for some reason on the Alltel theme I tested it with it was), I did not check this, I guess the manila file names on Fuze manila comm menu are different. I did catch little things like the audio progress bar etc, but I will update soon to fix the Comm menu, with new colors too...
EDIT 2 HELP REQUESTED. I check the manila files I changed and all the correct ones for the comm manager are there, yet it is still stuck on green, at least with the Wildberry Manila landscape cab that I used..any of the more experienced people care to help me figure out why this is
EDIT 3 I figured it out I think - I am running a custom comm manager from my Juicy CDMA rom - so I have included those files in a revised version that is now 100% all green graphics to orange
EDIT 4 I have also added an optional orange tab cab file for the lower scrolling icon area - personal preference if you like this.
EDIT 5 I have fixed the transparency issues on the opera focus so it looks better, not shown in pictures below
EDIT 6 ORANGE CAB IS BUGGED - OPERA HIGHLIGHT IS PINK - Fix coming - and text is missing below opera globe on all colors
EDIT 7 - Text below opera globe is restored and install names bugs of cabs, shade of orange for opera focus are fixed. New files to be posted later tonight (dec 23 08). Red and Charcoal to follow soon.
ADDITIONAL COLORS CAN BE FOUND IN MY ADDITIONAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD
Good job man
Do you have any screens?
Is it for all the green focus elements like call screen, comm manager, settings tab, usb popup screen ?
If so, then it will be nice
i am new to this - so how I capture screens I have to figure out, but yes it does everything that is green in orange - though it is possible I missed something
also any help with the reg settings to get the highlights in the start menu and dialer to go orange through reg settings would be nice - when ever I tried the hex code for orange in the registry the start menu highlight ended up going dark blue
Hmm nice color, it will look nice on black!
I cannot help you with reg settings though.
I will follow this post to see the progress you're making to get it all orange.
Good luck!
EDIT 2 HELP REQUESTED. I check the manila files I changed and all the correct ones for the comm manager are there, yet it is still stuck on green, at least with the Wildberry Manila landscape cab that I used..any of the more experienced people care to help me figure out why this is
EDIT 3 I figured it out I think - I am running a custom comm manager from my Juicy CDMA rom - so I have included those files in a revised version that is now 100% all green graphics to orange
EDIT 4 I have also added an option orange tab for the lower scrolling icon area - personal preference if you like this.
Now that I have finalized the Orange version other colors will be forthcoming
Updated files in first post
I took the liberty of doing the all blue one. Let me know if there are any problems.
Thanks !
but the comm manager, audio manager, dialer etc do not use the manila files for the focus colors - they are separate PNGs in the windows folder, or registry edits
Mew request in Red!!
drsquid said:
I have downloaded some of the focus color change files from XDA and found that they were very incomplete, missing many of the other 'green' elements in vanilla black manila, so I made a new one, which includes the focus elements for the landscape icons too. It also has a reg edit to change the enlarged start menu and task manager highlights to gray.
I could make other colors on request.
EDIT the communications menu is NOT orange if you use this with stock HTC black theme (but for some reason on the Alltel theme I tested it with it was), I did not check this, I guess the manila file names on Fuze manila comm menu are different. I did catch little things like the audio progress bar etc, but I will update soon to fix the Comm menu, with new colors too...
EDIT 2 HELP REQUESTED. I check the manila files I changed and all the correct ones for the comm manager are there, yet it is still stuck on green, at least with the Wildberry Manila landscape cab that I used..any of the more experienced people care to help me figure out why this is
EDIT 3 I figured it out I think - I am running a custom comm manager from my Juicy CDMA rom - so I have included those files in a revised version that is now 100% all green graphics to orange
EDIT 4 I have also added an optional orange tab cab file for the lower scrolling icon area - personal preference if you like this.
Now that I have finalized the Orange version other colors will be forthcoming
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Can you make it in RED???
THANKs
I do not have Diamond .
Could you make 4 GREEN color ??
Light Pink
Here is my next color - a very light pink...really on suitable for TF3D themes with a dark font (ie doesn't work too well on my stock HTC black theme)
Again there is separate cab for a pink lower curtain icon tab (NOT SHOWN IN IMAGES BELOW), if you would like that too.
BTW the comm and audio manager focus files are not 'manila' files - they are simply png's in your windows folder on the device, so just changing the manila files doesn't change everything. Here are the file names that you need to edit
SIPMenu_BottomMenuItem_HL.png
SIPMenu_BottomMenuItem_HL_LS.png
SIPMenu_MenuItem_HL.png
SIPMenu_MenuItem_HL_LS.png
SIPMenu_TopMenuItem_HL.png
SIPMenu_TopMenuItem_HL_LS.png
Status_On.png
Status_On_Disable.png
L_Button_Down.png
L_Button_Focus.png
option-check-box-on.png
P_Button_Down.png
P_Button_Focus.png
P_Symbol_lock-lightOFF.png
P_Symbol_lock-lightON.png
Progressbar_L.png
Progressbar_P.png
Save_to_contact_checkbox_Check.png
ses_btn_eq_chked.png
ses_slr_bar_2f.png
ses_slr_bar_2lf.png
ses_slr_thumb_2f.png
Also these files will not change the focus in HTC apps like the camera etc - that is something I will work on eventually.
Note there is no image for opera focus, but bug with no text below globe in v1 light pink cab is fixed, and focus is pink as per the rest of the highlights
Light Blue
As above, Light Blue focus, with separate cab for lower curtain icon tab.
as above bug of no text below opera focus is fixed in v2 file, and name in add remove programs is now correctly saying light blue
Can you please make a black one?
white o black ?
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white o black ?
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vote for that.
but why not make an app so we can choose differnt colors ?
I am afraid I have absolutely no ability to code....
If some one was to write an app for me that would use the manila files I made - it could be packaged with all the color files I make - perhaps something like TF3d config for colors only - but if they app was to on the fly change the colors that means all the files needed for each color would have to be locally stored on your device, taking up needless space
in the current orange focus cab, the highlight for launch browser is pink not orange on the internet touchflo3d tab. Also, the words "Launch Browser" disappear when you install the cab.
EDIT:
In theory you could have a program that changes the hex values of the each individual pixel in a basic grayscale image by adding XX XX XX to each RGB value for each and have an infinite number of colours.
ackkk ! Thanks for the bug report
I guess I mixed up the pink and orange opera focus files...and I didn't notice the launch browser part until now...I will have to figure out what I did to remove that
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black black black
Hey just wanted to share my theme since it took a while to modify everything to make it look like the hero theme.
On the last screen shot it has all the cabs that I have in my tmobile rhodium in order for it to look like this.
HTC Radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356&highlight=htc+radio
Black Numbers Clock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2712354&postcount=302
G-Sensor program list in cab file.
For people without Resco Registry or Total Commander (Thanks Joseng)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=200116&d=1246211866
Light up the screen when you get a new textmessage:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=200116&d=1246211866
HD Wallhero
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=212218&d=1249349913
Smaberg TP2 Powerbutton 12 icons actionscreen v 1.1.cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479206
m6 Taskbar WM6.1 Color V11c Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520132
HTCPEDIA HTC Manilla 2.5 UI Icons
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225
[email protected] stock clock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4103380&postcount=41
dang! i'm super jealous! i went to the link on your pics but they never loaded. so i've got to ask how did you do it?
yea can u post links to those cabs thanks for sharing
wow that's outstanding.
I really like how you skinned the touchflo buttons on every tab (music, settings, mail, sms, people, camera and start menu) to be transparent. makes things much nicer showing the BG.
Have you got the manila files in a zip? or a cab for this?
Glad to see you are using my HDWallHero.cab. I've gone off that theme somewhat myself but it still looks pretty good.
Will this work on topaz?
Maric said:
Hey just wanted to share my theme since it took a while to modify everything to make it look like the hero theme.
On the last screen shot it has all the cabs that I have in my tmobile rhodium in order for it to look like this.
HTC Radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356&highlight=htc+radio
Black Numbers Clock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2712354&postcount=302
G-Sensor program list in cab file.
For people without Resco Registry or Total Commander (Thanks Joseng)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=200116&d=1246211866
Light up the screen when you get a new textmessage:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=200116&d=1246211866
HD Wallhero
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=212218&d=1249349913
Smaberg TP2 Powerbutton 12 icons actionscreen v 1.1.cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479206
m6 Taskbar WM6.1 Color V11c Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520132
HTCPEDIA HTC Manilla 2.5 UI Icons
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225
[email protected] stock clock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4103380&postcount=41
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The programs tab isn't skinned, any idea how to get this done?
I really like how you skinned the touchflo buttons on every tab (music, settings, mail, sms, people, camera and start menu) to be transparent. makes things much nicer showing the BG.
I'm still trying to find somewhere in this forum (I've been looking in like all the htc winmo device forums) all of those transparent tab function buttons (like call, email send sms in the people tab)
Does anyone know where I can find these?
hi...i'm not very familiar with winmo just yet...
i tried to install the HTCHero wall cab, but the progress bar just stays there and does not progress...am i doing something wrong?
edit: fixed it by removing some programs
Maric said:
Hey just wanted to share my theme since it took a while to modify everything to make it look like the hero theme.
On the last screen shot it has all the cabs that I have in my tmobile rhodium in order for it to look like this.
HTC Radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356&highlight=htc+radio
Black Numbers Clock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2712354&postcount=302
G-Sensor program list in cab file.
For people without Resco Registry or Total Commander (Thanks Joseng)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=200116&d=1246211866
Light up the screen when you get a new textmessage:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=200116&d=1246211866
HD Wallhero
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=212218&d=1249349913
Smaberg TP2 Powerbutton 12 icons actionscreen v 1.1.cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479206
m6 Taskbar WM6.1 Color V11c Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520132
HTCPEDIA HTC Manilla 2.5 UI Icons
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225
[email protected] stock clock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4103380&postcount=41
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cant find cabs anywhere
how can u have the wallpaper as backround in ur start menu list ?
I'm probably preaching to the noobs here since most of you seasoned veterans should already know all this. I just thought I would contribute something by consolidating a couple of easy tricks.
Sure, there are numerous themes out there. But these days, there's so many versions of Manila that it can get frustrating to find which theme works for your ROM. So, here's a couple of tips to personalize your device regardless of Manila version.
1. Make your taskbar more interesting and useful
There's really no reason to stick with the default WinMo taskbar. It's bland, boring, and you can only see battery level in 4 increments. There are numerous custom taskbars out there but I find this one the most eye-pleasing to me. Brian's Taskbar
2. Make your wallpaper visible on all tabs of Sense. And don't let landscape orientation mess up the image.
If you use Manila/TouchFlo3D/Sense, don't bother setting your wallpaper via the Settings tab. Your wallpaper will look alright on your Home tab in portrait mode. But you won't be able to see your wallpaper in your other tabs. And if you switch to landscape orientation, your wallpaper will look horrible. This tool solves all these problems. You can also use a completely different wallpaper for landscape if you choose to. HDWall
(The program is easy to figure out. Take the time and patience to do so. It is worth it.)
3. Keep your Today background beautiful in both landscape and portrait orientation
Those of you who use the default Today screen (instead of Sense, Mobile Shell, etc) will know that you set your wallpaper by doing one of the following:
Option A:
-go to "Today" settings
-toggle on "Use this picture as the background"
-tap "Browse" and then select the image file.
-tap "OK"
Option B:
-open the "Pictures & Videos" application
-Browse to the image file and open it
-Tap "Menu"
-Tap "Set as Today Background..."
-Move the selection area according to your own preference.
-Keep transparency level at 0% (This is an odd setting. I can't fathom a reason for not setting it at 0%)
-Tap "OK"
Rather than using a 480 by 800 image. Try using an image that is 1333 by 800 (width by height).
For WinMo 6.5 users who use HTC Sense, this tip still applies to you. This affects the lockscreen image and the background image of the Start Menu.
Awesome! Thanks! Yes there are noobs out there (...me). I definitely appreciate this. Can't wait to try it out!
Thanks, I am a noob and am trying to decipher all these options. Maybe there can be just series of Noob Stickies...?
And I thought I would find out about lipstick and thong undies here...
I just use an 800x800 image... works just the same.
omganinja said:
I just use an 800x800 image... works just the same.
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You're absolutely right. If you use an 800x800 image, the wallpaper displayed will not be scaled down and will be shown in full resolution.
However, here's the reason why I suggested using a 1333x800 image:
See the first attachment named 800x800jpg.
The blue represents the part of the wallpaper visible to you in portrait mode.
The red represents the part of the wallpaper visible in landscape mode. (Of course, imagine that the red extends behind the parts covered by blue in the middle.)
But as you can see, there's some chunks of white areas. Those parts of the image will never be displayed.
If you use a 1333x800 image, every pixel will be displayed in landscape mode. See 2nd attachment named 1333x800.jpg.
800x800 vs 1333x800
I agree entirely with the post above (very useful illustrations).
The only thing I would point out is that the 800x800 wallpaper misses out the corners of the picture in both orientations, whereas the larger wallpaper misses nothing out in one, but huge amounts in the other.
So I think it all depends on the composition of the picture really - if most of the picture is interesting then go for 800x800, if the best bits are in the centre third then go for the larger dimensions.
Of course it also depends on which orientation you spend most time using your phone in...
Just what i was looking for since Energy changed taskbar icons.
Brian's Taskbar looks awsome on the phone and ALSO seemed to make many other icons look more stylish such as storage card and folder icons. Im sure i will run into more stuff from this. Thanks
I have to say thanks for this post. I was unaware of another stable taskbar aside from Tsowen's work and Brian's definitely rocks.
Great post. I'm not exactly a noob, but I haven't spent any quality time with my phone for the last couple of months. I was waiting until some of the bugs got worked out on the programs I was hoping to use. And besides, hubby just got a Verizon Palm Pre so it renewed my interest in making my phone that much better than his.
Your directions were so complete and easy to use. My phone looks great now. That 3rd step was one I hadn't thought of. Last night I installed Brian's taskbar and HDwalls. The wallpaper looked wonderful. I thought I was stuck with the default background for the start menu until I got up this morning and tried your step 3. Now I'm a very happy camper. Thanks for the effort you took in writing this post.
Maybe a bit of a silly question, but I love those tomatoes on the lock screen. Is there any possibility that you could post that picture here?
Thanks in advance
Thanks! was looking to change the default taskbar, but didn't know how.. now i do
BTW: also like the tomatos!
catcraig said:
...Your directions were so complete and easy to use. My phone looks great now. That 3rd step was one I hadn't thought of. Last night I installed Brian's taskbar and HDwalls. The wallpaper looked wonderful. I thought I was stuck with the default background for the start menu until I got up this morning and tried your step 3. Now I'm a very happy camper. Thanks for the effort you took in writing this post.
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Thanks for the kind words!
pwisseh said:
Maybe a bit of a silly question, but I love those tomatoes on the lock screen. Is there any possibility that you could post that picture here?...
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dappie said:
Thanks! was looking to change the default taskbar, but didn't know how.. now i do
BTW: also like the tomatos!
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Here you go fellow tomato-lovers! I'd also suggest to check out the rest of the site for more cool images.
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/1990/solanum.html
Thanks so much
Thanks a lot !!!!
Great work!
ohyeahar said:
Thanks for the kind words!
Here you go fellow tomato-lovers! I'd also suggest to check out the rest of the site for more cool images.
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/1990/solanum.html
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Hey... great site !
i see in the thumbnail posted the task bar is working fine with the updated Rom showing the weather on the today screan , but with me since i updated my Rom the task bar have a bug
the network signal icon always shows as if there is no signal
how can that be fixed ?
samarrai said:
i see in the thumbnail posted the task bar is working fine with the updated Rom showing the weather on the today screan , but with me since i updated my Rom the task bar have a bug
the network signal icon always shows as if there is no signal
how can that be fixed ?
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would be helpful if you mentioned what ROM you're using and what taskbar is causing you difficulties....
WM 6.5
Rom 1.86.415.2 (67102)
and i tried both brain's taskbar and spike's
few min ago i used another Brain taske bar
(New_F_ Brians WM6.5 Taskbar gfreek edition V5a.cab)
it works without a bug in the signal icon , but i'm not lovin the icons really niko's were much pleasant for me, especially the start icon its not the htc logo
also i have another question my friend, which i chose to show clock on taskbar , it used to show it in any running program but not in the Home screan and it's taps , which is logic
since i update the Rom and the clock in the task bar shows in the Home screan and make the battery disappears !!!!!
even when i installed this brain taskbar also the clock removes the battery icon from the home screan