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Hi everybody,
I have an 02 xda mini s and I cannot make or receive any phone calls. I was given it by a friend almost brand new. I put a Vodafone sim in it and for the first few weeks it worked fine and I could make and recieve phone calls no problems. All of a sudden, for no apparent reason, I couldn't do either. I can send and receive text messages fine however. One other thing to add is when trying to make a phone call, it goes to ring out as usual, but at the point of when a phone would normally ring it cuts out and you can hear 3 very faint tinny sounding beeps. It is very irritating as it is excellent at everything else but I just cannot use it as a phone
I would be very, very grateful to anyone that could help.
P.S I have noticed on several forums there have been similar question with no responses, perhaps this is something quite rare or unheard of.
It could either be a hardware or a software problem. Have you tried backing everything up and doing a hardreset and seeing if that solves the problem?
Urthwhyte said:
It could either be a hardware or a software problem. Have you tried backing everything up and doing a hardreset and seeing if that solves the problem?
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Hi, yes I have done several hard resets. I have tried different sims from different companies to no affect. However once in a blue moon and by pure chance it works again and I can make phone calls but it doesn't last long.
It sounds like a hardware problem then, I'm not familiar with the Wizard's internals, but it could be either a loose connection on the motherboard or just a component dying. If it's either of those things, someone on these boards might be able to sell you a replacement, but you'll have to take the thing apart, which most likely means ending up with more screws then you started with.
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It sounds like a hardware problem then, I'm not familiar with the Wizard's internals, but it could be either a loose connection on the motherboard or just a component dying. If it's either of those things, someone on these boards might be able to sell you a replacement, but you'll have to take the thing apart, which most likely means ending up with more screws then you started with.
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Cheers for that, I doubt i'll take it apart though it will end up with more than a few screws left over if I do it, I am am danger when it comes to electrics. Even if I did I wouldn't know what to look for. I'll see if I kind find someone more electrical minded than me to do.
Ta.
Eddie
Alright, good luck. From your last goodbye, I'm just going to assume you're from the UK, you could try taking it to an 02 store and seeing if they can do anything to help you. You're not a customer of theirs, so they will most likely tell you to go away, but it is worth a shot.
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Alright, good luck. From your last goodbye, I'm just going to assume you're from the UK, you could try taking it to an 02 store and seeing if they can do anything to help you. You're not a customer of theirs, so they will most likely tell you to go away, but it is worth a shot.
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Yeah I am from the U.K. I could take it to them no probs, probably won't be cheap though. If needs be I could always stick and 02 chip in there or find someone with a contract o2 chip.
If needs be there must be a phone repair shop nearby, London is a pretty big place .
My luck has been mixed with phone repair shops, but I've only been one or two times to one of the mall kiosk style ones. If it turns out getting it replaced is a no go, I'd suggest selling your current Wizard on ebay, and then turning around and buying a fully functioning unlocked one.
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My luck has been mixed with phone repair shops, but I've only been one or two times to one of the mall kiosk style ones. If it turns out getting it replaced is a no go, I'd suggest selling your current Wizard on ebay, and then turning around and buying a fully functioning unlocked one.
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Yeah its an idea. Cheers Matey.
I have almost exactly the same problem, 3 faint beeps when trying to make a call.
The phone I have is a T-mobile MDA Compact that has been network unlocked.
The problem is that it is unable to make or receive normal calls. The symptoms vary across networks, with vodafone being the most functional. The symptoms are as follows.
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Tesco Mobile: - no service.
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T-Mobile: Connects to network and shows a signal, but no call functions work.
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vodafone: Connects to network, shows a signal, can send and receive text messages, can make 999 calls.
Can't make or receive normal calls:
When trying to dial out the display goes from "dialing" to "call ended" and three quiet beeps can be heard, the dialed phone never rings.
If called from BT landline the caller simply hears "Error" and callers from other mobile phones hear a variety of different tones (engaged, beeps etc, varies with different phones)
If the phone is switched off, the callers get the usual "the phone you are calling is not available" message.
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The phone has a CheckMend certificate to show that it is not lost or stolen, and T-Mobile have confirmed that the IMEI is not barred on their network.
While attempting to fix this:
I have reflashed the phone with several ROMs, run the unlocker several times and updated the radio from 1.12 to 1.13, but the original problem remains unchanged.
I have e-mailed HTC support with my symptoms but as yet have received no reply.
Big Big Big F*****g Problem
Hi, can anybody help me. I have f....d my XDA mini s, i need a WM6 rom XM6r3 on SD card, i cant acces my ACTIVE SYNC. Pls send me a link with these ROM.
Could you elaborate on what the issue is a bit more? I believe the issue is most likely that you have "ADvanced Network Functionality" checked in USB-PC settings under connections. Try unchecking that and seeing if you can then connect.
OK, I know that may look like a dumb question (and maybe it is!!!)
I have just unlocked my Vario 2 using the "Pof" method with both Sim and SuperCID.
Problem is, my phone needs to be sent back (long story - but basically I am getting a replacement Vario 3). Now obviously I am concerned they will tell me "sorry youve been playing with your phone sonny - its no longer under warrenty", so need to get it back to factory settings if I can.
I appreciate a hard reset will basically wipe any files I have, contacts and settings etc, but will this remove the unlocks that have been done? ie It really does go back to factory settings - or do these unlocks stay on there?
I have been searching the forum and WIKI, but not found the solution. I did think I would need to install a T-Mobile Rom - but all I could find was a hungarian version - which whilst in English, would probably look worse than as I currently have it!
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
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For the record, if it makes any difference:
ROM Version 1.21.110.3
Rom Date 06/19/06
Radio version 1.16.00.00
Herm300 IPL-1.01
SPL 1.40.0lipro
a hard reset simply formats the internal drive on the phone and resets it to the factory settings.
generally t mobile wont bother looking at things like that, i unlocked my vario, dropped it, it smashed, they just replaced it after trying to repair it.
A few people have flashed new roms and bricked it, sent it back, tmobile are none the wiser, they are probably unaware people to this to their handsets!
we are all just stupid customers as far as they are concerned!
personally i wouldnt worry about it!
andaroo said:
a hard reset simply formats the internal drive on the phone and resets it to the factory settings.
generally t mobile wont bother looking at things like that, i unlocked my vario, dropped it, it smashed, they just replaced it after trying to repair it.
A few people have flashed new roms and bricked it, sent it back, tmobile are none the wiser, they are probably unaware people to this to their handsets!
we are all just stupid customers as far as they are concerned!
personally i wouldnt worry about it!
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OK thanks for that. So I assume a hard reset will not over write anything regarding the bootloader radio change and unlocks? I appreciated that it resets the OS - hence the question.
I agree that they probably wouldnt in most cases look into the phone and check, but they have put a note on my account about "charging if not found faulty".
The problem I have been getting is missing calls - even if I am in a strong signal area. I actually work at Waterloo Railway station - and I would doubt too many places would get a better signal! An incoming call is made, my phone doesnt ring and the caller gets a single ring, then nothing. From what I can now gather, this may be to do with the cell shaking hands but not really being connected. ie the phone/cell are duping each other. This appears to be a 3G issue (so is probably likely to still be there on exchange.) Now the silly thing I have noticed; the phone seemed fine until I got web'n'walk put back on and the problem happens once I have been online. Strangely at the moment, I dont think the problem is persisiting (ie Im not aware of missing calls - though of course thats difficult to quantify unless someone tells me!)
Anyway - I have a feeling they will be looking more into this phone as this replacement will be my 5th! (The previous had similar problems with calls being made or incoming that would just fall over before being answered and the signal being completely lost when it was happening. Slightly different this time - but sound related!)
So will there be a way to put it back to being locked and the correct bootloader etc being shown?
Many thanks
I had the same problem with rejected and dropped calls, tmobile couldnt care less from what i learned or are unaware of the problem! try this
1. lock the phone to gsm only (this solved it pretty much straight away)
2) remove the voicemail from your account
3) If you are using gprs data, you will rarely get a phone call through, and by using it i mean looking at web pages or having programs update in the background.
Downgrading the bootloader is way above my head so i wouldnt like to advise.
As regard to relocking the phone to the network, i dont think thats possible, in any event, why would they check the simlock if the phone is having problems with calls!
If its your fifth handset, you should be looking at changing the model at least because thats ridiculous.
It sounds like a network issue rather than a handset problem!
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I had the same problem with rejected and dropped calls, tmobile couldnt care less from what i learned or are unaware of the problem! try this
1. lock the phone to gsm only (this solved it pretty much straight away)
2) remove the voicemail from your account
3) If you are using gprs data, you will rarely get a phone call through, and by using it i mean looking at web pages or having programs update in the background.
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Yeh, the problems on this phone didnt start until I began using the net again. They did suggest switching off 3G, but since I bought the phone specifically on the promise of a fast connection and HSPDA speeds, that really is an unacceptable solution! I appreciate that signal varies etc - but if a central location where I work isnt good enough, then T-Mobile really shouldnt be advertising themselves as a 3G network!
As it happens, voicemail was switched off on the account. It got put back on again a week ago - and sods law - things now seem to be working, though internet speeds are still very slow.
As regard to relocking the phone to the network, i dont think thats possible, in any event, why would they check the simlock if the phone is having problems with calls!
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Dunno really. Its just a concern they will and then use it to wriggle out of an exchange!
If its your fifth handset, you should be looking at changing the model at least because thats ridiculous.
It sounds like a network issue rather than a handset problem!
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When I phoned, I was just looking to get a repair, but it was them that offered a Vario 3 which I accepted. It was agreed for them to be sending the set to me (last Thursday) but all that arrived was a grey bag to send my old one back. I spoke with them at great length again last night and suggested a straight courier swap so I wasn't without a phone. They went through to their repair department, who have now flatly refused the phone change - despite it being agreed already!
Anyway I spoke to another manager who went through my "book" of notes and quoted the sale of goods act and merchandisable quality thing and he has agreed they really have to address this. He is phoning me back today and he did come across as helpful and reasonable. (The second one in 2 weeks - must be a record!!!)
I do agree though, that this issue is likely to be the network and not the phone. I would really love to use O2 as at work and home I get 100% coverage and never had any problems at all - but I ain't paying their data rates! Maybe 3 will be ok - but again, when I had them a few years back, at home they were dire so never bothered again. But one thing is pretty certain, in 5 months time, T-Mobile will be history unless they make amends in a big way and these problems become non existant.
Thanks for your help..... its appreciated.
Ok, so the vibrate feature no longer works on my device. Whether it be the vibrate profile (phone stays silent but no vibrate), Haptic feedback is no longer working in keyboard and neither is the haptic feedback in HTC Sense and inc bootup.
I sent detailed info on my fault, phone was sent last friday. Vodafone sent me a txt saying they had received my device on Monday morning and then sent me another txt at 19:50 saying that the device is on it's way back to me fixed and would be with me tomorrow by Royal Mail and make sure someone would be in.
I then took the day off unpaid and the device never arrived until this morning. I was so excited to get it back but already annoyed due to losing pay yesterday. Opened box and there was my baby. I popped in my battery and no vibrate during boot?? No haptic feedback in keyboard (checked settings)??? Then tried vibrate profile and rang my phone, surprise "No Worky" phone silent and no vibrate. ??? Checked accompanying documents. One is a check list from engineer. As Follows:
"Reported fault Resolved Tick (No it's not)
Data Content Cleared Tick
Latest Version Software Same as sent
Established Live Call Tick
Incoming Audio (speaker) Test Tick
Display Test Tick
Keypad Test Tick
Imei: *********************
Date Test Completed 25/01/10"
Then letter says:
"hank you for sending your phone to us for repair, we are pleased to say that the fault has been fixed.
What we've done
One of our engineers has throughly tested your phone. The fault on your device has been corrected by upgrading the software to the latest manufacturer approved version. If you mentioned any other faults when you booked the repair, these will have also been fixed.
As part of the repair process, we have given your phone a full internal service including upgrading the software inside the phone, as this is how many faults are fixed. The software is responsible for many aspects of how the phone actually works and though you may not expect it, upgrading the software can increase battery life and memory capacity, and provide you with a more up to date phone.
If you need us again
You can pop into the shop or call customer services, blah blah blah."
Well what BULL. The software is the same as previous (before sending) Phone has not been fixed. I lost a days pays (although my choice I surpose for doing as they asked) And I'm now worse off.
I popped into vodafone store and they said they could do nothing as they dont sell that phone instore and were not even aware of the model. See said call 191 from phone. And all they would do is send it off again. I'm reluctant to do this as I'd be without a phone for further number of days. working virtually non-stop over next couple of weeks so being in to recieve the phone may be a prob. I just feel like taking they phone and both signed documents to a solicitor.. They clearly state it's been repaired but it's not. Exactly the same as was sent. Well as soon as contract is up with vodafone I'm going back with O2. First time with Vodafone and also my last!!
Sorry for the rant. Any Idea's? What would you do? Should I send it off for repair again or demand a replacement or just shut up and take it like a *****???? Thanks for listening... Anyone a Solicitor?? lol
Just for reference, the shops, the internet shop, and the phone shop are 3 different branches of the same company. They do not share deals, devices, staff, or even knowledge. This is quite common, and normal for most (if not all) of the major providers.
Anyway, I'd ring back and just explain to them what you've explained to us. Try and stay calm with them but be very persistent. Don't end the call till they've acknowledged what the fault is by telling you what they've recorded on your notes, and they've agreed to once again collect the phone.
If you do need a phone while it's away (do you? You already received text messages from them last time it was away), they may be able to arrange one of the shops to do you a loaner for a while, but it will be a piece of crap that will make you blush when you have to pull it out in public.
My best advice would be to not get angry on the phone with them. It's done, and the person at the other end of the phone isn't responsible for the problem. Too many people start these conversations aggresively, and that won't get you any further. If I was CS staff and someone rang up and started ranting at me immediately, I'd be disinclined to be as helpful as I could.
I know it's crap, but it is what it is, and the phone simply needs fixing or replacing.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on.
Thanks for your quick reply. The only reason I popped in store was because the letter said I could and I was going into town anyway so took my chance. I was very pleasant on the phone (couldn't have been anything else as I have a really sore throat and a blocked nose, lol) In fact i'd say that the Welsh guy from customer services is about the only thing Vodafone currently have going for them. He was great and very polite. Just waiting on his supervisor calling me for a chat but said it could take up to 48hrs.
Will keep you informed, Just cant believe they say that the problem is fixed. Well gonna keep smiling and looks like i'll have to use my mates pink flip up phone again for a while. uughhh, I'm not gonna hear the end of that I can tell you.
help when i try to make a call on my HD2 the phone crashes then it i try to end the call my pressing the end key. i the lock the phone and guess what about 5mons later it decides it wants to call. i end up with calls 18mins long and a phone billl or £170 what do i do the is the phone faulty???? this phone has NOT been hardspl-ed and has always had a stock rom. what do i do is the phone faulty? and it has next to no apps. app it has it myphone, marketplace and the stock copilot which i dont this i have ever clicked on the app oh and netframwork 3.5 thats about it.
hard reset, the phone, if still happens take it back and demand a replacement and hope you can make it do it again when you are in the shop, never heard this one before but not good,
although i would of prob whipped the battery out if i could disconnect the call
Demon_man said:
hard reset, the phone, if still happens take it back and demand a replacement and hope you can make it do it again when you are in the shop, never heard this one before but not good,
although i would of prob whipped the battery out if i could disconnect the call
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ive done all them this is be second device. am i eligable for them to refund me or terminate the contract because the device is not fit for use under the sale of good act? what do you think? also gonna try and claim the money back from htc or the retairer
i got a 4,000.00 dollar phone bill once.... no one in the world can beat that....
ProjektFuze said:
i got a 4,000.00 dollar phone bill once.... no one in the world can beat that....
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was that with the hd2?
lnoormohamed said:
yeah but u were actually using it right? where i wasnt actually on the phone.
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I severely doubt he ran up a 4k phone bill through phone calls, texts and data charges he intentionally made.
Kalavere said:
I severely doubt he ran up a 4k phone bill through phone calls, texts and data charges he intentionally made.
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sota was thinking about that after i posted
lnoormohamed said:
help when i try to make a call on my HD2 the phone crashes then it i try to end the call my pressing the end key. i the lock the phone
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just confirm please, when you say the phone crashes, do you mean it actually crashes, or the screen becomes unresponsive? If it is the screen that stops responding, check you dont have 'increased tap time' tweak installed either as a cab or as part of bsbtweaks, because this causes unresponsive screen on call screen.
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just confirm please, when you say the phone crashes, do you mean it actually crashes, or the screen becomes unresponsive? If it is the screen that stops responding, check you dont have 'increased tap time' tweak installed either as a cab or as part of bsbtweaks, because this causes unresponsive screen on call screen.
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no litteraly the phone crashes the hardware buttons dont responding, you have to wait a while for it to work. i usally keep pressing the end key to try to stop dialing out but it has a mind of its own. useually the phone starts to dial outafter 5mins or so when the phone is locked
nice. if it were me, id give it a chance at a hard reset, then straight back to where it came from.
(course, it slightly possibly could be the sim card, know anyone on same network you can borrow a sim from?
yea... no one can believe it.... its almost impossible.... but i did... and at the time i wanted to shoot myself... but now i use it to make people shocked
samsamuel said:
nice. if it were me, id give it a chance at a hard reset, then straight back to where it came from.
(course, it slightly possibly could be the sim card, know anyone on same network you can borrow a sim from?
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No point because it's not the cause of the problem. I had this once about a week after i got my leo. At the time i was running the phone as delivered and it was hanging (not crashing. this is a "hang" in the traditional PC sense) all over the place. This particular situation is the same.
What's happening is the processor is becoming hot and is down clocking itself to allow it to cool. At the same time Sense is asking for a crap load of memory transfers all while your trying to make a call. The phone decides that Sense is more important than the user and stops responding to you until it has cleared it's instruction queue. This is why if you leave it for a while (10 minutes or so) the phone will suddenly start responding again. That is unless Sense gets an instruction timeout and actually does crash (had that a few times).
I cured it by installing Leocpuspeed and disabling the autoscalling and setting the clock speed to 998Mhz. It allows the processor to plough through it's queue faster giving it more free time to respond to the user. I've also noticed that the cooked 6.5.5 roms that have newer versions of sense also respond better OTB.
I can't explain it dialing by on it's own though. A few possibilities here. It could be someone dicking about with a paired bluetooth headset all the way to a virus picked up from a website or a poorly sourced app. I couldn't say for sure because the OP is being pretty vague tbf.
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No point because it's not the cause of the problem. I had this once about a week after i got my leo. At the time i was running the phone as delivered and it was hanging (not crashing. this is a "hang" in the traditional PC sense) all over the place. This particular situation is the same.
What's happening is the processor is becoming hot and is down clocking itself to allow it to cool. At the same time Sense is asking for a crap load of memory transfers all while your trying to make a call. The phone decides that Sense is more important than the user and stops responding to you until it has cleared it's instruction queue. This is why if you leave it for a while (10 minutes or so) the phone will suddenly start responding again. That is unless Sense gets an instruction timeout and actually does crash (had that a few times).
I cured it by installing Leocpuspeed and disabling the autoscalling and setting the clock speed to 998Mhz. It allows the processor to plough through it's queue faster giving it more free time to respond to the user. I've also noticed that the cooked 6.5.5 roms that have newer versions of sense also respond better OTB.
I can't explain it dialing by on it's own though. A few possibilities here. It could be someone dicking about with a paired bluetooth headset all the way to a virus picked up from a website or a poorly sourced app. I couldn't say for sure because the OP is being pretty vague tbf.
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thank for the info i am going to send it back to the retailer to try and cliam the costs back from the incrred callls. but i had trouble replcating the problems under camera
here is a video of my sis doing the demo of the fault http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Url7Z6Oqk
and only have installed
copilot stock install
myphone
marketplace
net 3.5
opera 10
and thats it.
ProjektFuze said:
i got a 4,000.00 dollar phone bill once.... no one in the world can beat that....
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I've worked for a company where one of our customers had a £855.00 phone call... (single call)
They really shouldn't let drunk people call 0906 numbers and then forget to hang up the phone until lunchtime the next day.
£1.50 x 570minutes (about 9.5 hours) = £855 ooops
Thing is the call they made was to our content line so we got the £640 of it (we did pay them it back as a good-will gesture minus the item cost and an administrative cost, although the cheeky sod tried to blame our system for forcing his telephone to stay connected to it... moron lol)
I would also speak to your operator and tell them you've had a fault which has led to a hefty bill, my daughter had a similiar issue with vodafone and infairness they refunded the full amount once we proved her phone had an issue at the vodafone store, it was a phone provided by vodafone and they were really good about it her bill was £280 for a month, they refunded the full difference to the normal £25 contract...
They might not refund it all but they might refund part of the cost as its obviously not your fault...
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I would also speak to your operator and tell them you've had a fault which has led to a hefty bill, my daughter had a similiar issue with vodafone and infairness they refunded the full amount once we proved her phone had an issue at the vodafone store, it was a phone provided by vodafone and they were really good about it her bill was £280 for a month, they refunded the full difference to the normal £25 contract...
They might not refund it all but they might refund part of the cost as its obviously not your fault...
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thank you so much for the info same sorta situation. i got me phone from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk reason is that they sell the phones unlocked and unbranded. phoned up vodafone they said have to see retaier or manufacter. phoned up retaier and they said to phone htc.
so phoned htc up 5 times today and could not get connected to anyone. just sent them an email explaing the fault and the video. hopefull they will give me a call and i hope that i can claim the money back....
now i have to play the waiting game.
yeah, call your service provider, if the large bill was due to a defect in their phone you should not be responsible to pay for it. If the phone does become unresponsive again and you can't hang up you can always soft reset or pull the battery and sim.
I just watched the video and read all the comments. From what you have said i think you may just struggle to get the refund. the reasons are thus:
You said the phone was not sold to you by your operator. this therefore means they have no obligation to refund any charges caused by a faulty device but i'll bet if you send your sister and get her to ask really nice, flutter the eyelids a little and maybe flash some skin you my get somewhere.
Next don't send the phone back. Waste of time!! from the video i can assure you that is a software fault (and one that would be very difficult to replicate in normal everyday usage) and the new phone will have the same problem. I suggest you look at using a cooked 6.5.5 rom with sense 2.5.2016 where the issue has been fixed. If the phone does ever need to be replaced then you can just flash a stock rom back on to it.
I actually got this for the first time yesterday when trying to make a call, the phone just locked up completely, just pulled the battery and re-booted and been fine since,
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I cured it by installing Leocpuspeed and disabling the autoscalling and setting the clock speed to 998Mhz. It allows the processor to plough through it's queue faster giving it more free time to respond to the user.
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thanks for this, dude. I've been having hanging oroblems for ages now and will give this a go this evening. I was convinced it was a sensd problem as the Windows menu srill seemed to respond during the freeze.
i have kinda had the phonecall thing, although I've always been able to catch it by whipping the battery out or mashing the end button as it tries to connect.
My SGS4 recently stopped working - basically what happened was that it doesn't seem to be drawing power from the battery. The phone will turn on when plugged in (but soon power off), and will show as charging when first plugged into charger (but not charge). However if I unplug it, it won't turn on.
The phone is rooted, and running a custom, Samsung based ROM.
I have tried using a different battery, and the stock battery fully charged with an external charger - and the phone still won't turn on. It's clearly a hardware related issue - drawing current from the battery. I've also tried turning the phone on in download mode, and recovery mode. Both of which do the same as a standard boot - ie. turn on for a while, then turn off.
The phone, being only about 6 months old, was still within warranty period, so I took the phone to Telstra. Not surprisingly, Telstra have said that as there is a Custom ROM on the phone, the warrant is voided. I stated that my understanding is that under Australian law, as it is a hardware fault, and not a fault caused by the ROM, the warranty still stands - however Telstra wouldn't budge and said I have 5 days to decide if I want to pay the $300+ for the repair.
What is my next course of action? Has anybody had a similar issue previously? Is the TIO the next port of call? Or should I be going to NSW Department of Fair Trading?
I'm sure I've read previously that phones are still covered under warranty after rooting etc, if it can be shown that it's a hardware fault, not a software fault. As the battery doesn't seem to be powering the phone, this clearly seems to be the case - esp. as it is the same in download mode and recovery mode.
Any help would be great. Please don't post pointing out that I rooted my phone so THAT's my own fault etc. These posts aren't helpful, I already have know that.
is it too late to throw the original Telstra ROM on it and take it back to another store? If you were careful you would still be on the old bootloader, so there shouldn't be any KNOX concerns.
Thanks for the response.
It may not be too late, however I cannot flash it, as the phone won't stay on for more than a second or two. Even in download mode.
I was on the old bootloader, yes. So knox is fine.
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Thanks for the response.
It may not be too late, however I cannot flash it, as the phone won't stay on for more than a second or two. Even in download mode.
I was on the old bootloader, yes. So knox is fine.
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Thats good to hear that your still on oldbootloader but the problem still will remain if you cant do something about it. Can you pls pull the battery out for atleast 5 to 10 minutes to let it settle abit and put it back after. Thanks
Edit: Would you mind checking your battery Serial S/N if it starts with BD ? thank you.
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I am not too sure about Australian law but under EU law you are fine. This does not however apply to the rest of the world.
Either way if you have rooted outisde EU you are pretty much done for (unless there is a law). its extremely hard to prove that your rooting / apps or whatever you have on it has not caused the Hardware fault.
I understand that it is battery not charging etc, is there anyway while phone is connected directly to mains to flash it from usb card? if you could do this and 'unroot' the phone it should be stock or give you enough to trick kies into allowing you to update?
Its a pity you cannot power it through your PC and enter download mode and flash.. (or can you?)
Repulsa said:
Thats good to hear that your still on oldbootloader but the problem still will remain if you cant do something about it. Can you pls pull the battery out for atleast 5 to 10 minutes to let it settle abit and put it back after. Thanks
Edit: Would you mind checking your battery Serial S/N if it starts with BD ? thank you.
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Hi,
It's definitely no fault of the battery. I've tried various batteries, left the phone without a battery for days etc. (See this thread for details of this issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581229&page=2)
Battery serial starts AA.
A|ex said:
I am not too sure about Australian law but under EU law you are fine. This does not however apply to the rest of the world.
Either way if you have rooted outisde EU you are pretty much done for (unless there is a law). its extremely hard to prove that your rooting / apps or whatever you have on it has not caused the Hardware fault.
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I think that's the issue here. Basically a big company taking advantage of the small man. They have the upper hand, they know it, so they force you to pay.
It has to be a hardware fault, based on all of the behaviour (ie. phone booting in all modes - but dying in a handful of seconds), but it's easy for them to wash their hands of the warrant, by saying I modified the device - even if it is irrelevant to the problem.
I understand that it is battery not charging etc, is there anyway while phone is connected directly to mains to flash it from usb card? if you could do this and 'unroot' the phone it should be stock or give you enough to trick kies into allowing you to update?
Its a pity you cannot power it through your PC and enter download mode and flash.. (or can you?)
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Unfortunately not. Even when the phone powers up, it shows 0% and shuts down very soon after. If I plug it into the PC, then turn it on, it powers up and again turns off not long after. This same behaviour carries across to download mode and recovery mode. ie. It boots, but then dies within a few seconds.
Think I'll complain to the ombudsman.
Based on the Australian law, the ombudsman can assist as follows:
The TIO has jurisdiction to investigate complaints about faulty mobile handsets where the handset is supplied as part of a contractual relationship, between the TIO Member carrier or carriage service provider and the complainant, which involves the provision of a carriage service to be accessed via that handset.
The TIO does not have jurisdiction to investigate complaints where the customer supplies the handset (i.e. they have purchased it outright and separately from their purchase of network services), or where the initial contract has expired and the customer retains and continues to use the handset. Where appropriate, the TIO will refer out-of-jurisdiction complaints to the relevant Department of Fair Trading or Consumer Affairs.
This position statement does not relate to any manufacturer's warranty. The TIO will investigate complaints about faulty handsets provided as part of a bundled service, even where the initial handset warranty period may have expired.
Under the TIO's Operational Guidelines the TIO will only investigate complaints about faulty handsets where the fault is caused by an inherent defect or otherwise and is not caused by misuse by the customer. The TIO may also decline to investigate a complaint where a customer has not produced a handset for inspection/assessment after being asked to do so by their provider or the TIO.
As the defect was not caused by myself - as the rooting and custom software did not lead to the hardware defect, I believe it falls under the TIO jurisdiction.
As a long shot would a juice pack for a S4 work such as a morphie as you can charge and also sync? (not sure if the phone uses the pack or whether the pack is used to charge the battery, if the latter it will not work for you)
or maybe a mains powered dock and usb cable to PC?
Given TIO is able to look at something like this as the handset is bundled, go to them. Better them than CA/FT/whomever, as TIO is the specialist industry body.
Or....This sounds like it may be a simple USB board/port failure which is quick/easy/cheap (maybe 15 bucks) to replace yourself. You could always try that, and if that doesn't end up being the issue then go the TIO route.
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Given TIO is able to look at something like this as the handset is bundled, go to them. Better them than CA/FT/whomever, as TIO is the specialist industry body.
Or....This sounds like it may be a simple USB board/port failure which is quick/easy/cheap (maybe 15 bucks) to replace yourself. You could always try that, and if that doesn't end up being the issue then go the TIO route.
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I don't believe it's a usb port failure, as fully charged batteries haven't worked. It's not the USB port that's issue, but that the phone isn't drawing current from the battery.
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As a long shot would a juice pack for a S4 work such as a morphie as you can charge and also sync? (not sure if the phone uses the pack or whether the pack is used to charge the battery, if the latter it will not work for you)
or maybe a mains powered dock and usb cable to PC?
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What's a juice pack?
I have a dock, bit it has the same issue as charging direct - the phone turns off after about one second
So the latest news – I tried to phone the store again and this Telstra Shop NEVER answer their phone – I have their direct local line, given to me by the Telstra Call Centre, and even tried calling them as I walked through the door – as I'd tried calling throughout the day with no answer. The phone on the desks rang, and was ignored by staff who were standing around having a conversation. Sure explains why they weren't answering the phone throughout the day! So anyway, after not getting through to the store, I called the Telstra Call Centre again, explained the situation, and that I was quoted ~$350 for the quote. The operator looked into it, put me into someone who was escalating the case. After a short chat, the person said they'd call me back after speaking to the tech, getting all the details etc etc. Long story short, they call me back and gave me a waiver code. Said that I can request the store repair the phone, and give that waiver which will mean I'm not charged.
I went into the Telstra store this evening (which is after I kept trying to call them all day as above), and told them the situation. They didn't understand why I was telling them, and said I needed to tell the tech centre – who they can't provide contact number for (and who had told me when giving me the quote to respond to the store within 5 working days). Eventually a guy that knew what he was doing explained to my staff member that he just needed to email/message the tech responsible, provide the waiver and confirm to go ahead with repairs.
Now I've just got to wait for the call saying my phone is ready to be picked up Hopefully they don't stuff that up!!
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So the latest news – I tried to phone the store again and this Telstra Shop NEVER answer their phone – I have their direct local line, given to me by the Telstra Call Centre, and even tried calling them as I walked through the door – as I'd tried calling throughout the day with no answer. The phone on the desks rang, and was ignored by staff who were standing around having a conversation. Sure explains why they weren't answering the phone throughout the day! So anyway, after not getting through to the store, I called the Telstra Call Centre again, explained the situation, and that I was quoted ~$350 for the quote. The operator looked into it, put me into someone who was escalating the case. After a short chat, the person said they'd call me back after speaking to the tech, getting all the details etc etc. Long story short, they call me back and gave me a waiver code. Said that I can request the store repair the phone, and give that waiver which will mean I'm not charged.
I went into the Telstra store this evening (which is after I kept trying to call them all day as above), and told them the situation. They didn't understand why I was telling them, and said I needed to tell the tech centre – who they can't provide contact number for (and who had told me when giving me the quote to respond to the store within 5 working days). Eventually a guy that knew what he was doing explained to my staff member that he just needed to email/message the tech responsible, provide the waiver and confirm to go ahead with repairs.
Now I've just got to wait for the call saying my phone is ready to be picked up Hopefully they don't stuff that up!!
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Congrats on the Win! but i bet they will slap you in the face with KNOX
You mean they'll put me on the new BL? Yes, I'm sure of it. Tech centres always do a factory reset and load the latest firmware. They give you a warranty on the repair, so they ensure all is stock.
If you mean they will refuse to repair because of knox, I'm confident they won't. I'm on the old BL, and even so I've been given the quote and waiver for the quote already.
My phone has been returned in working order. Of course, Telstra being Telstra, I was told that they couldn't add the waiver at the shop, so we would be billed, and then have to apply for a credit.
Oh, and they've updated to a Knox enabled ROM obviously but that was expected
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