i'm running this app's card benchmark and the results are a bit dissapointing for me. yesterday i bought one kingston 1gb elite pro (50X) and the tests shown only 4,6X for read (0.68 mb/s) and 1,2X for write (0.18 mb/s)... why?
probably your results are mainly affected (limited) by your devices sdio-slot? i guess the sdio-controller is a lot slower than the cards abilities. have you ever tried to benchmark the card in a card reader connected to your desktop pc? the results there should look much friendlyer to you ;-)
regards
peter
ps: i have sdcard of 2 + 4 gb rated 150x and the results in my htc universal look similar to your results, so don't worry it is normal.
could you tell me a program for pc to run benchmark? actually i do not have a card reader, but a HP photosmart 7260 printer which has card reader on.
Hi all,
I'm going to finally have some spare time this weekend and might even get to have a mess around with Android on my HD2 if I get lucky! My concern is that I have a 16GB Class2 microSD in my Leo and while looking at HD2 stuff on ebay came across this.
The seller states that Android won't run (properly?) on his 16gb Class2 and includes a Class6 8gb card aswell for this purpose.
What's everyone's experience with running Android on a slower card? From looking around I've seen people saying 'there isn't much difference' for most things but a lot of contridictions for others.
Thanks gang!
I have no issues with my Android build currently, and it's on a 4gb Class 2 SD card.
It does help having a faster one, but It's not the end of the world.
Phil
Have been testing out froyostone sense build on a 2gb class 2 card and it's like lightening So yes, would format first though otherwise you will get lag.
Cheers - yep I won't forget to format, been reading the threads while working this week... taken in loads of info, just need to find the time to actually get it rolling
I was wondering the same thing. I installed froyostone 08.07.2010 using miri Rom on stock radio on a friends hd2 and it freezes and comes back to life very often. Would a higher class sdcard solve his problem?
I think they guy on eBay is talking rubbish. I run darkstone's 2.2 perfectly well on a 16GB Class 2. A Class 4 would probably help a little bit, but I'm not that fussed really.
I'd be more concerned about getting dodgy copies of Transformers from them!!
murdaralph said:
I was wondering the same thing. I installed froyostone 08.07.2010 using miri Rom on stock radio on a friends hd2 and it freezes and comes back to life very often. Would a higher class sdcard solve his problem?
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The whole OS and all animations etc, or just touch screen response?
If its the touch screen, that's a known issue and will be addressed in due course.
Phil
It's in german, but i guess u may figure it out.
h**p://***.chip.de/bestenlisten/Bestenliste-microSD-Karten--index/detail/id/867/
I have a kingston class 2 , not working.
qingcai said:
I have a kingston class 2 , not working.
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A Little more information would be useful, what's not working about it? How's it formatted? Has it even been formatted and then had a new build copied to it?
Phil
i never had issues with a class 2 before... no SOD or anything... although after switching to class 4, there is noticeable speed. now in class 10, a lot faster. but no real issues in class 2 except a tad slower (but decent speed nonetheless)
I use the 16gb class 2 card and its quick with decent quadrant tests. I think its because android loads into ram (please correct me if I am wrong, ill search for this later). I think there are apps that read or write to folders on the SD card that would gain from speed of a class 6 or 10 card and if I am right about loading to ram the boot up time could receive a benefit.
Personally I am looking to get one just to access media faster and for taking pics and vids as there is a write delay that's typical with all phones. If it helps android in its current state the cool but I'm not in a rush. Development here have made great strides in making android snappy and android is an awesome is as it is for handling background tasks. Much to the credit of Linux but I find android to be a faster evolution then most mobile oses. Much to the credit of being open source and encourage community development. Nothing here is illegal but maybe some grey areas in closed source distributing which cyanogen had an interesting situation that was resolved quickly with Google's assistance.
But I am off topic now. Yes it would help with some things but don't break the piggy bank over it.
Hope my thoughts are helpful. It would be better to get feedback from those that have done it and get before and after boot, quad, and market download responsiveness tests. I may have a class 6 8gb card somewhere I can test later tonight. I would do fresh sdformatter formats with nothing but android on the card to get a somewhat standard benchmark.
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Mine is 16gb class 2, with the latest fullram zimage, i score 29.2fps in neocore test
and can play sparta! very smooth, also the asphalt 5
kerman19 said:
The whole OS and all animations etc, or just touch screen response?
If its the touch screen, that's a known issue and will be addressed in due course.
Phil
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the touch screen. The SD card was quick formatted. Would that make a difference in the builds performance ?
I'm using a Kingston class 2, but it performs with 5,5MBs writing speed when used in a computer slot, so in practice its a class 5,5. Works great! Froyostone sense v1
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I use the 16gb class 2 card and its quick with decent quadrant tests. I think its because android loads into ram (please correct me if I am wrong, ill search for this later). I think there are apps that read or write to folders on the SD card that would gain from speed of a class 6 or 10 card and if I am right about loading to ram the boot up time could receive a benefit.
Personally I am looking to get one just to access media faster and for taking pics and vids as there is a write delay that's typical with all phones. If it helps android in its current state the cool but I'm not in a rush. Development here have made great strides in making android snappy and android is an awesome is as it is for handling background tasks. Much to the credit of Linux but I find android to be a faster evolution then most mobile oses. Much to the credit of being open source and encourage community development. Nothing here is illegal but maybe some grey areas in closed source distributing which cyanogen had an interesting situation that was resolved quickly with Google's assistance.
But I am off topic now. Yes it would help with some things but don't break the piggy bank over it.
Hope my thoughts are helpful. It would be better to get feedback from those that have done it and get before and after boot, quad, and market download responsiveness tests. I may have a class 6 8gb card somewhere I can test later tonight. I would do fresh sdformatter formats with nothing but android on the card to get a somewhat standard benchmark.
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You have experience with your G1, the class 6 I use on mine makes definite difference when running apps from your sd card. I've been alternating using my 16 GB Class 2 and my 8 GB Class 6 in my HD2 but I haven't seen any speed difference with android so I believe that it runs on the internal ram.
i think class 2 is enough
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the touch screen. The SD card was quick formatted. Would that make a difference in the builds performance ?
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Touch Screen lag/freezing is a known issue right now and doesn't relate to the SD card.
It's being worked on.
Phil
I have a class 2 16GB sandisk drive and score 1578 in quadrant standard, that said i usually get write speeds of around 6MB/sec on my computer
i personally think it helps a bit ( i ws previously running Android off the 16GB class 2 card the HD2 came with) but experienced some lag when scrolling.
That said, it was an early build of Android so it was probably just that.
The thing is, 8GB class6 cards are relatively cheap to buy (i picked up an A-DATA 8GB class 6 for $21 canadian at CanadaComputers)
so..why not upgrade to the class6 card? I'm sure it wouldn't hurt and no matter what you'll experience at least have SOME sort of performance gain in other aspects (music, pictures, file managers, etc)
Hey guys,
currently i am on my Samsung Galaxy S but i ogle with WP7 . How is the performance going on with a Android built on a SD Card? Maybe even a Class10 one. Is it comparable with a native android phone like Galaxy S?
Are there some benchmarks (within android like Quadrant etc..)?
Thx for Infos in regard!
Cheers
I'd recommend a good quality class 4 microsd card like sandisk to run android off of... higher class SD cards tend to have slower random access speeds, which is more important than sequential read/write speeds if you're gonna run an operating system from it. I use a 32gb class 4 sandisk and have it partitioned to dual boot windows phone 7.5 and android, and it runs android as smooth as my brothers galaxy s. I'm currently running ICS without any major issues... only 5mAh battery drain on standby, too.
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Thx for your reply ! Good hint with the lower sd class. So there are elswhere no limitations in using ICS? GPS / Calling works flawlessly? I read the threads but i was looking for a subjective opinion of someone. So good to hear that your brother owns a galaxy s and its comparable in your opinion ;-) Could you run a Quadrant? I read several posts with scores from low like 900 to even bashing a galaxy s. I know benchs are not equal to performance, but i would be interested.
Do you experience any lags in using a SD built like descriped in some posts? I read alot about "wakeup lag" for example :/
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Thx for your reply ! Good hint with the lower sd class. So there are elswhere no limitations in using ICS? GPS / Calling works flawlessly? I read the threads but i was looking for a subjective opinion of someone. So good to hear that your brother owns a galaxy s and its comparable in your opinion ;-) Could you run a Quadrant? I read several posts with scores from low like 900 to even bashing a galaxy s. I know benchs are not equal to performance, but i would be interested.
Do you experience any lags in using a SD built like descriped in some posts? I read alot about "wakeup lag" for example :/
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In terms of features everything works flawlessly but you will inevitably get wakeup lag with SD builds unfortunately As for quadrants, I used to get easily over 1500 with ACA and some of MCCM's builds
Ok thx great support here @hd2 base really.
So except wakeup lag its a fully working android from a sd. Found this useful post about the lag: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12108550&postcount=18
If i buy a HD2 maybe i should look out for a "newer" Device.
Honestly i am a little interested in WP7 and like to link it with my xbox.
Would you buy a HD2 now? Its the only phone with WP7 / Android dualboot am i right?
tomatenjungee said:
Ok thx great support here @hd2 base really.
So except wakeup lag its a fully working android from a sd. Found this useful post about the lag: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12108550&postcount=18
If i buy a HD2 maybe i should look out for a "newer" Device.
Honestly i am a little interested in WP7 and like to link it with my xbox.
Would you buy a HD2 now? Its the only phone with WP7 / Android dualboot am i right?
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Actually I might also try WP7 at some point, it's such a sleek OS Yes, as far as I know the HD2 is the only phone with the capability to dual boot Android and WP7, but it's possible that soon Android may work on WP7 native devices. On the portal look at the threads about Haret and being able to run WM6.5 on WP7, all seems to be quite interesting right now.
I would say that it's worth buying a HD2 if it's cheap but there are some things which simply aren't up to standard with other newer devices (despite what people say) such as the fact that the multitouch is very glitchy (due to the original WM6.5 OS the screen was outdated, it only supports 2 fingers and does even that very badly), the camera isn't great, the GPU is quite slow for HD games, sometimes the 576 Mb of RAM isn't sufficient (with just a few background apps running on a CM7 build I get around 200Mb free RAM, but if you go for Sense you'll be luck to get over 100Mb) and so on. I guess if you can get some sort of trade for your SGS for an HD2 then go for it, or if you can get yourself an HD2 at a low price, but if you think there are better out there go for a WP7 phone and hope for the best
What might be the better SD card Androids out there for battery life and ability to work with Sony LiveView Watch? I have tried a few but battery life sucks, and love using the Sony LiveView watch with Android, just need a stable version to work with it, so far the only rock solid version that works but has bad battery life is NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 hopefully someone has had some experience with this setup?
Thanks
Thats a good question. I've tried a sdcard (class4) from a discounter and a sandisk sdcard (class6) but there was no difference.
I think it is a general problem when Android is running from sdcard.
Please write future experience with that.
That's a bit baffling because one would obviously expect a difference between running an SD Android build off a class4 SDCard vs a class6. Anyways, I've been running mine off a 32GB Class4 sanDisk, and it does gets a little slow at times.
I experienced with some SD mentioning itself as Class 10 but the transmission rate is the same as a Class 4 one. So determining the speed by Class declaration is not totally reliable unless you could check and compare the speed with some software.
Hello everyone,
I just installed an app called A1 SD Bench Click.
Now for the issue that I just discovered. My Bench shows Read 18.22MB/s and Write14.92MB/s. I know the card I have should have around 60MB write and 40MB write. But I thought maybe its a device limitation, but that didn't stop me from trying the same Micro SD on my Tab S.
The Tab S showed a Read speed of 58.99MB/s and Write 30.84MB/s. So that got me wondering if there is a problem with my Note 3 or is the Tab S capable of using the full speed.
Could anyone try the app and report back with the advertise card speed vs the bench speed?
Thanks
Yathani