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So I looked down at my phone last night and instead of the usual E hanging out above my bars, there is a G. I am on AT&T...how is this possible???
Does the G mean something other than 3G? (2G? I thought that was Edge...hence the E).
Sadly, it means GPRS. Even slower than EDGE.
gunnner said:
Sadly, it means GPRS. Even slower than EDGE.
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That is sad...what would 3G look like? I am guessing maybe a 3 and a G?
Thanks for the info!
you would be correct. 3G
AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
boxmander said:
AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
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On a theme you can change the 3G icon to the H and make believe
I'm surprised he got G thought that was impossible to still get that after seeing all those A&TT commercials about coverage.
on cyan's rom I go from 3g to H alot during the day. Where i am at im mostly on H.
Ace42 said:
On a theme you can change the 3G icon to the H and make believe
I'm surprised he got G thought that was impossible to still get that after seeing all those A&TT commercials about coverage.
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hey, G is still coverage!
HSDPA is actually still a part of 3G, the display icon when in use is not enabled by default likely because it would confuse the holy living CRAP out of the masses (and still confuses a great deal of XDA'ers). H is more like 3.5G. Rom's like CM5 have enabled it so that when HSDPA is in use, the 3G icon changes to H, and it goes back to 3G again when UMTS is in use.
CDMA networks have a technology (spectrum) limitation that requires them to move to 4G (WiMax or LTE) sooner than GSM providers. Right now I believe Verizon is building out LTE, and Sprint is building out WiMax.
Personally, I'll be happy when the carriers put in the backbone necessary everywhere to support the wireless speeds.
boxmander said:
AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
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more like
GPRS is still 2G, while EDGE is 2.5G, like how there is 3G and 3.5G(HSDPA)
for all you AT&T and Verizon people here... watch this vid...
http://gizmodo.com/5473135/man-confuses-reality-with-a-verizon-commercial
I'm curious if.the custom ROM's enable the H icon only or if they actually enable HSDPA. Reason I ask is because I'm only getting UMTS- like speeds and I've heard others mention they're getting much faster speeds in my area.
j.bruha said:
I'm curious if.the custom ROM's enable the H icon only or if they actually enable HSDPA. Reason I ask is because I'm only getting UMTS- like speeds and I've heard others mention they're getting much faster speeds in my area.
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when u see the H you are indeed using hspa. even if you dont have a custom rom you may still be using it, you just dont get an icon because it would confuse the average consumer as stated by someone else in this thread.
just recently a guy posted about the *#*#4636#*#* code and changing network preference. well fooling around at work yesterday i tried it out and i picked "WCDMA only" and before this, i get prettu good 3g and H signals but very few edge spots (inside). after i selected that though my signal was still on H speeds so i didnt think much of it but its been 15 hours and ive been around and my phone hasnt even as much as dropped down to 3g. so maybe or maybe not this could help you guys out but i just wanted to give a heads up. try out for yourself
p.s. i also heard it helps with battery because your phone isnt always busy switching back and forth between network.
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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There's a g for that
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dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
johnxjets said:
There's a g for that
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Yeah. I've seen E, G, and H on my G2... granted I rarely ever see G. I actually thought it was a glitch when I saw it lol.
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There's a g for that
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Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
H and G only in West Texas
Out here we are still stuck on a 3G network. (No idea when HSDPA or + will be here), but NO EDGE, unless you roam... It is 3G/H or GPRS... It kinds sucks, thank goodness for WIFI..
bigstunta101 said:
no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
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Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
I wanna get more replies and see from more people, the problem with me is, at school in campus the signal is really spotty, where I can even have 3 or 4 bars and be still on edge.
Another thing is where when the signal goes haywire, it will drop from either utms or hspa into edge and the data connection will just stop and it won't work unless I get the H. Its been happening for a week now and I'm up to a week on my remorse period and want to handle this before its too late.
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dronepop said:
Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
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What he said + if you do this and u get to were there is no 3g or 4g then you will get no signal because the phone isnt looking for an egde but only 3g/4g.
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dronepop said:
Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
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I think that they were saying for the OP to download that widget so that they will know when they are on HSPA+ or 3g. I'm pretty sure they didn't think the OP was already using the widget or they wouldn't have suggested downloading it.
So, as most of you should know, as G2 owners we do not have an icon for 3G and we have an H icon instead. Since the H is supposed to also represent HSPA+, when T-Mobile changes their marketing strategy from calling HSPA+... HSPA+ to 4G, do you guys think that we will get some sort of update that will give us a 4G icon AND a 3G icon?
That would be nice if that icon was included. I don't think it will be though. I use 'Netswidget' to identify which network I'm connected to.
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marqi.k said:
That would be nice if that icon was included. I don't think it will be though. I use 'Netswidget' to identify which network I'm connected to.
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I use that too, and it still doesn't help. It only shows as HSDPA, whether I'm on 3G or HSPA+.
I just dislike it shows "H" even if I am on UMTS.
ostinq said:
I just dislike it shows "H" even if I am on UMTS.
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So do I, hope when we get custom roms on this, devs can change it and have the icon showing what we're connected to.
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I kinda like the H, its something different.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/itu-lays-down-law-wimax-2-lte-advanced-are-4g-everyone-else-i/
ITU lays down law: WiMAX 2, LTE-Advanced are 4G, everyone else is a buster
It's all marketing crap. It's not real 4g.
H is da new G
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
Blackman778g said:
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
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So what you're saying is that you're so G you're H?
I like the H because it gives me the idea that my 3G speeds are crazy fast, even if it isn't at all times. I usually get 2-4mpbs which is close to my current ISP if not better
Corylulu said:
It's all marketing crap. It's not real 4g.
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True! More like 3.5g !
starfcker69 said:
True! More like 3.5g !
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought HSDPA was 3.5g and HSPA+ was closer to 4g... And from what I've seen so far HSPA+ gets faster speeds then the 4G wiimax offered by Sprint.
Blackman778g said:
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
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lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
H > G
bwilborn said:
So what you're saying is that you're so G you're H?
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Hell Yeah!! Im So H!!!
G is old news H is the future!
havikx said:
lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
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Yeah Sidekicks have the G3 a.k.a. 3G ....... Well it was cool at the time saying "I got the G3!!"
havikx said:
lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
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That wasn't a 7, it was the antenna.
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With current 4G speeds TMO can say that there HSPA+ is 4G but only until WiMax and LTE gets optimized to there theoritical speeds that define them as 4G. When that time comes TMO can no longer claim they have 4G.
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Hey your answer is yes. The gingerbread update will give us G2 users a 4g icon and a 3g icon...
Source
CodeMonkey-10 said:
Hey your answer is yes. The gingerbread update will give us G2 users a 4g icon and a 3g icon...
Source
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Lmfao at the grave-digging of this topic. Almost all the custom roms have dealt with this.
Secondly i have installed that rom and it's not true. It does not switch back and forth like say cyanogen does between 3g/h.
Does anyone know if the G2 displays hspa+ in the phone signal? I only see UMTS or HSDPA and I live in Dallas which supposedly was one of the first cities to get HSPA+.
I've searched around but I have never found any concrete evidence regarding the issue. Fastest speed I've seen is about 6 Mbps, which I think is just standard 3G.
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Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830907
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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StockDroid said:
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
naria01 said:
I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
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Which part of Dallas were you in when you got those speeds?
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papeshfoo said:
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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Surely you mean if it says HSDPA it's either on HSDPA or HSPA+ ?
imblacklife said:
Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830907
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I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
Davidion said:
I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
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umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
papeshfoo said:
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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I was rocking a N1 before and it clearly was on HSDPA... This was months before HSPA+ was officially released in Chicago.
papeshfoo said:
umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
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Is that so? My mistake then.
My phone almost never stays on G and if nothing else, is only on H and fluctuates to edge in some of the weaker signal areas.
G = gprs
e = edge
h = umts/hsdpa/hspa+, (3g/"4g")
g<e<h
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
SRed13 said:
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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That does seem pretty rubbish, if it shows "H" even on when you're on plain 3G speeds.
Just so everyone knows. This discussion is not about the H in the status bar. We already know it displays H for all high speed connection types.
It is about the network type displayed in the staus and how to determine if you ade on HSPA+.
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SRed13 said:
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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I do use that and I see 3G and H, but I assumed I would see H+ when it goes to HSPA+.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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Its showing me h all the time. My hspa+ speed sucks then lol I only get like 3mbps.
[G2/HTC Vision]
It will never say hspa+ just hsdpa
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I occasionally get HSPA+ from where I live and even then, my speeds are below 1 Mbps. At least the rest of you are approaching 3 or better, I'd kill for that.
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Ok so i updated to 2.2 using the qdl tool., everything seems to be working fine but I dont have 3g symbol, just a H which seems to be getting good speeds, does the H replace 3g?
muddy00 said:
Ok so i updated to 2.2 using the qdl tool., everything seems to be working fine but I dont have 3g symbol, just a H which seems to be getting good speeds, does the H replace 3g?
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Yes! it does. It means you're getting 3G speeds.
muddy00 said:
Ok so i updated to 2.2 using the qdl tool., everything seems to be working fine but I dont have 3g symbol, just a H which seems to be getting good speeds, does the H replace 3g?
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Yes its the european version of 3g.
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European version!? OMG.
where do you get your info from?
BrokenPixel said:
European version!? OMG.
where do you get your info from?
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Its no big deal the uk will use the h instead of 3g.
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I'm pretty sure it stands for HSPDA which I think is high speed PDA.
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High Speed Packet Data Access
HSDPA, High Speed Downlink Packet Access
HSUPA, High-Speed Uplink Packet Access
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I'm pretty sure it stands for HSPDA which I think is high speed PDA.
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Yes thats what it stands for but he updated through qdctool ihas the O2 version and they use the h instead of 3g.
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ATT, for whatever reason dumbs down their phones to not distinguish between the older UMTS 3G and HS*PA flavors which are technically 3.5G. Most unlocked (read non-ATT) phones on ATT will show up as H when they're getting their fastest speeds, although I have an old Nokia that actually has a '3.5G' indicator.
In short, if your phone says 'H', it's better than '3G'.
Nosfrat said:
HSDPA, High Speed Downlink Packet Access
HSUPA, High-Speed Uplink Packet Access
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Thanks for the correction! All those letters can get confusing, and where I am, no one but me cares what they mean, so when I am wrong, nobody is here to correct me...
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ATT, for whatever reason dumbs down their phones to not distinguish between the older UMTS 3G and HS*PA flavors which are technically 3.5G. Most unlocked (read non-ATT) phones on ATT will show up as H when they're getting their fastest speeds, although I have an old Nokia that actually has a '3.5G' indicator.
In short, if your phone says 'H', it's better than '3G'.
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When I updated thru the QDL tool, I had the H on the 305 or 309 (whichever one it was)...then when I put DJSteve's 1.5.1 on my Streak, it went back to 3G.
Two questions:
1. Can I go into the build.prop files and change a line somewhere to get the H back?
2. If the answer to Q1 is yes, is it really going to get the faster speed, or is it just gonna give me the H instead of the 3G symbol?
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Yes its the european version of 3g.
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carhigh said:
I'm pretty sure it stands for HSPDA which I think is high speed PDA.
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johdaxx said:
ATT, for whatever reason dumbs down their phones to not distinguish between the older UMTS 3G and HS*PA flavors which are technically 3.5G. Most unlocked (read non-ATT) phones on ATT will show up as H when they're getting their fastest speeds, although I have an old Nokia that actually has a '3.5G' indicator.
In short, if your phone says 'H', it's better than '3G'.
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anyways. its not european, its hsdpa not hspda. and the reason you see 3g instead of hspa on att devices can be for multiple reason. the obvious is that people see it and think "herp derp, im not on 3g! att suxors". another reason is that it will just show up as 3g on android 1.6 on most any device. and unless its told to show, if hsUpa is deactivated, the H wont show and att has made it a habit to remove hsupa from as many phones of theirs as they can.
tmotytn said:
2. If the answer to Q1 is yes, is it really going to get the faster speed, or is it just gonna give me the H instead of the 3G symbol?
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If I install Ferrari badge to my Fiat would it go faster?
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muddy00 said:
Ok so i updated to 2.2 using the qdl tool., everything seems to be working fine but I dont have 3g symbol, just a H which seems to be getting good speeds, does the H replace 3g?
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H > G and if you ever see N your streak connected at 'Nirvana' speed, there is just no faster than 'N', yes your streak does support N speed as well but only temporarily and only when you let it go above 5m (~15') high
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subvecto said:
If I install Ferrari badge to my Fiat would it go faster?
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Only when you're in Italy