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Ok I am a new member to this whole PocketPC thing since I just purchased my first PocketPC which is an i-mate JASJAM. I honestly think that it's a great product with a lot of features and potential. My problem though, lies in the fact that I haven't had the chance to enjoy it for a full day yet. Ever since I bought it, I always charge it for like 7 to 8 hours, even though it fills up after like 3, but i leave it on charge anyway, because I was told that "that's what you should do!".
Anyways, no matter how long I leave it on the charger, once i take it off the battery begins to drain like there's no tomorrow. I'm talking about going from 100% to 0% within 5 hours, while on FLIGHT MODE. If I turn the screen off then it might last for an extra hour.
Surely this can't be something normal, and I have been beating my brain trying to find a solution. As far as ActiveSync goes, I did the tweak that stops its automatic scheduled syncs, hoping that it would be the problem, but to my disappointment, no luck. Also made sure that no programs were running in the background. It came with a battery with a capacity of 1300mAh and then I bought another one hoping it was a problem with the battery. The new one had a capacity of 1350mAh, not much of a difference but it was all I could find. But there's no difference between them whatsoever, when it comes to battery life.
My first question is whether it is possible that this may be a software issue rather than a hardware issue (such as a power leak)?
If it is, then would upgrading the ROM or Radio or upgrading to WM6 make any difference?
Problem's that I don't have the phone on me right now so I can't give ROM or ExtROM versions etc., but I do know that it is running WM5 with AKU 2.3 and Radio is either 1.21 or 1.31.
N.B.: Until I get this issue sorted out, I am using a Nokia 6680 which has an average battery life of 3 days (72 hours), so should I be expecting something in the vicinity with my i-mate?
Well it sounds as if you've done all the obvious things. There is a power saving registry tweak in the wiki somewhere but that should not be necessary just to bring it to normal power consumption. If I don't use mine much (not on flight mode) I'll get a couple of days at least.
A ROM change might help a little but if you have a warranty I'd be tempted to use it. Radio change is unlikely to change things if you have been testing in flight mode.
Anybody else got ideas?
Mike
The only problem that I have with getting it fixed or replaced under warranty is that I have to send it to another country. So I am trying everything I can do before going through that hassle. So is there any test that I can carry out at home, or a certain diagnostics software that can test the phone for me?
Would a digital multimeter help if i can measure the current being drawn from the battery? What should the current rating be for the phone, is it 1A? Because there is one other interesting thing i found while just snooping around, there is a sticker that just has 5VDC and 1A written on it, and it's stuck to the phone under where the battery goes. I can only imagine that this is the voltage and current rating for the phone. The interesting part is that the battery that came with it, as well as the one i bought are both 3.7V batteries.
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Best to just update your phone.... But becareful! read and research on flashing b 4 you do it... VERY IMPORTANT... USE only softwares for your phone...
I wanna make sure that anything i do doesn't void my warranty as well.
Used their offical update for your phone... However, my friend brick his phone and sent it back to the company and they replace it for him... I dunno if you would have that luck however... if ur careful and read all the information... and ur computer is stable... you shouldnt worry about it bricking ur phone...
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The only problem that I have with getting it fixed or replaced under warranty is that I have to send it to another country. So I am trying everything I can do before going through that hassle. So is there any test that I can carry out at home, or a certain diagnostics software that can test the phone for me?
Would a digital multimeter help if i can measure the current being drawn from the battery? What should the current rating be for the phone, is it 1A? Because there is one other interesting thing i found while just snooping around, there is a sticker that just has 5VDC and 1A written on it, and it's stuck to the phone under where the battery goes. I can only imagine that this is the voltage and current rating for the phone. The interesting part is that the battery that came with it, as well as the one i bought are both 3.7V batteries.
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The ratings you see written inside and the battery ratings are just standard - nothing unusual there. You could test current draw etc but even if you find it a little high it doesn't really help you to pin down a problem save to say it's the phone and not the battery. However as you have two batteries it's fairly reasonable to say it's not the battery. (reasonable but not impossible of course that two batteries are not working as they should).
Unfortunately we do not yet have our hands on the test file that HTC use.
Mike
I guess I have no choice but to get it shipped back. Thanks for your help guys.
Are you using a wall charger or a trickle-charger such as the USB Cable? The wall charger is the only way to truly charge it to full.
If you are using a USB charger or other trickle charger, after the device says it is fully charged remove it from the charger for about 2 minutes and then reconnect it. It will then charge (most of) the rest of the way.
If you don't do this, the problems gets worse and worse. After 1 day, the trickle charger may get you up to a 90% charge. After two days, 80%, etc. After a week you'll only be holding half a charge, even though the device is reporting a full charge while on the charger.
Another tip I have found is to perform a soft-reset after removing it from the charger, particularly if it has been plugged in for a long time at full charge (more than an hour or so). It seems like the device doesn't always detect that it has been unplugged and tries to suck down juice as if it were still plugged in. If you have noticed that your device gets pretty hot when the battery drains quickly, this is probably what is happening to you.
You also haven't mentioned the programs that you are using during the day. Some programs, particularly chat clients, will drain the battery in about 5 hours, though obviously you're not using anything like this while in flight mode.
One more thing. You noted that you were told that leaving it on the charger whenever possible is the thing to do. This is incorrect. The more the battery is exercised in this way, the shorter the lifespan of the battery will be. With any PocketPC device we're all bound to charge it every night, but once it is charged you want to take it off the charger. A battery being fully charged is just as bad as a battery being fully drained, so you want to keep it somewhere in between as much as possible.
My battery doesn't last either.
I've ordered an extended life battery with its own back.
I've also ordered a car charger.
I also carry my old hiptop with me when I need to switch sims.
Apparently touchscreen phones that do so much, ie. bluetooth and wifi, eat batteries.
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Are you using a wall charger or a trickle-charger such as the USB Cable? The wall charger is the only way to truly charge it to full.
If you are using a USB charger or other trickle charger, after the device says it is fully charged remove it from the charger for about 2 minutes and then reconnect it. It will then charge (most of) the rest of the way.
If you don't do this, the problems gets worse and worse. After 1 day, the trickle charger may get you up to a 90% charge. After two days, 80%, etc. After a week you'll only be holding half a charge, even though the device is reporting a full charge while on the charger.
Another tip I have found is to perform a soft-reset after removing it from the charger, particularly if it has been plugged in for a long time at full charge (more than an hour or so). It seems like the device doesn't always detect that it has been unplugged and tries to suck down juice as if it were still plugged in. If you have noticed that your device gets pretty hot when the battery drains quickly, this is probably what is happening to you.
You also haven't mentioned the programs that you are using during the day. Some programs, particularly chat clients, will drain the battery in about 5 hours, though obviously you're not using anything like this while in flight mode.
One more thing. You noted that you were told that leaving it on the charger whenever possible is the thing to do. This is incorrect. The more the battery is exercised in this way, the shorter the lifespan of the battery will be. With any PocketPC device we're all bound to charge it every night, but once it is charged you want to take it off the charger. A battery being fully charged is just as bad as a battery being fully drained, so you want to keep it somewhere in between as much as possible.
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Wow, I am very surprised to hear some of these. First of all, are you sure that using the usb charger kills your battery capacity so fast? I mean, I almost always charge my phone with the usb charger and it seems to be quite fine. Of course once in a while I charge it with the wall charger when I am in a hurry. But I was thinking that charging it with the usb will be better as it charges slowly.
Also I usually keep my phone plugged to the usb. Indeed, I already ordered a desktop cradle so that I can see the screen while it is being charged. Is it a bad idea to keep it cradled all the time? This is what I did with my Dell Axim all the time and it was quite happy with it.
The process of charging/draining modern batteries won't shorten their lifespans. However, having a chargable battery at full charge or at no charge are both bad and both will reduce the lifespan of the battery.
So no, you shouldn't leave it plugged in/cradled all the time.
The problem with trickle chargers is altogether different. They just won't always charge a battery to its full capacity -- so in this way they are actually better for long-term battery health. This is why I said that if you want to get a full charge off of a trickle charger, you have to (usually) take it off the charger and put it back on when the device reports that it is fully charged. After unplugging the trickle-charger you'll get a new battery reading on the device which will usually be anywhere between 60% and 90%. You can then put it back on the charger until it shows full again.
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Well, it seems that i was just unlucky with my buy. Thanks to all of you first of all for all your support it really did help me learn more about PPC's in general, and it also made me sure that there is a problem with the phone. I sat through what i like to call a debugging session, just following the phone's every "move". I know, sounds kinda crazy but i was just that determined. What i realised was that whether i performed the soft-reset or not, it still had a problem, even though the solution did sound very promising.
This is what happened, charged it to 100%. I also tried charging it a little more later, but that was it, so i'm pretty sure that the capacity was right. After detaching it i performed the softreset, hoping that it would help. Then i just left it over night on flight mode. Next morning it had only decreased to 90%. GREAT! And it felt rather normal, but then about an hour later, it jumped down to 80%, 70%, 60%, then 50%. Then when I held it, it felt pretty hot, i figured that whatever was the problem earlier, just happened again. So I turned it off for a few hours then turned it on again and it started off on 40%. As before seemed to be performing quite normal, then within a minute it heated up again and jumped down to 20%. And that was when i just lost my nerve and packed it to send it back to my retailer.
I am now convinced that the phone is faulty!
Yes, it very well might be.
My device has drained suddenly a few times, with the exact same heat problems that you're describing when it happens. A soft reset for me when this occured fixed it -- and it hasn't happened for months.
But as we all know the same solutions don't work for all people with HTC devices.
I just had the same sort of problem. I've been using my TyTN for several months now under Dutty's WM6, and only just flashed Schaps 3.60 a few days ago.
It worked fine the first couple of days, but now I'm having the dreaded 5hr battery life too.
I had had that a couple of times before, but it was always related to some software, and a soft reset would cure it like Doom Tints said above. The problem is that here, either this or a power-off and reboot doesn't change a thing.
It's clearly a software problem too. I use UpTime Meter from AE, and I can see that the PocketPC simply doesn't turn into standby mode, but only deactivates the screen. In UpTime, the power on time will always be equal to the time since last charge, which means the PocketPC is on all the time. In that case the 5h battery life makes sense.
Would there be a way to find out why it doesn't enter standby mode (which software blocks it up), or force it into it? It would be good to find something as I'm nearly sure this is the reason for most if not all of the cases of short battery life we see around. Without having the meter there's simply no way to realise that the thing just stays on...
Doom Tints said:
The process of charging/draining modern batteries won't shorten their lifespans. However, having a chargable battery at full charge or at no charge are both bad and both will reduce the lifespan of the battery.
So no, you shouldn't leave it plugged in/cradled all the time.
The problem with trickle chargers is altogether different. They just won't always charge a battery to its full capacity -- so in this way they are actually better for long-term battery health. This is why I said that if you want to get a full charge off of a trickle charger, you have to (usually) take it off the charger and put it back on when the device reports that it is fully charged. After unplugging the trickle-charger you'll get a new battery reading on the device which will usually be anywhere between 60% and 90%. You can then put it back on the charger until it shows full again.
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Your good man, Phone has been charging for about four hours and it didnt go up more than 40% so I unpluged the phone and turned it off and on and then it went up to 80% and now its recharging it again. Thanks
Battery discharge and heating up
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I just had the same sort of problem. I've been using my TyTN for several months now under Dutty's WM6, and only just flashed Schaps 3.60 a few days ago.
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Would there be a way to find out why it doesn't enter standby mode (which software blocks it up), or force it into it? It would be good to find something as I'm nearly sure this is the reason for most if not all of the cases of short battery life we see around. Without having the meter there's simply no way to realise that the thing just stays on...
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Since I had my hermes, a few times it would get very hot and discharge the battery, and I assumed I was turning it on in my pocket and running a program. But now it does this continually. As soon as I take it off the charger it discharges and gets hot. This even happens if the phone is powered off.
I have borrowed a battery of someone else and the same thing happens
I have also hard reset it and have nothing installed extra, so it can not be software problem.
Must be a short circuit inside the phone? Does anyone have any ideas? I can't send it back as it is a Cingular and I live in the UK and have no support contract.
Thanks,
Mark
I managed to investigate and find the culprit - A2DP Toggle in my case. Whenever its Today plugin is enabled, it will prevent the phone from entering standby. Deactivate it - no uninstallation needed - and it returns to normal. Weird as it had been working perfectly for about a week, and I haven't done any change when it started acting weird.
Now it kinda defeats the plugin's purpose if I have to deactivate it everytime...
@simkin: If it drains the battery even powered off completely that's most likely a hardware problem. Does it happen too if you remove the battery and put it again without turning the phone on (as opposed to having the phone on and turning it off with a long press on the the power button)?
There could be a slight chance that the phone actually starts booting and gets stuck there draining power. As a last solution I'd try flashing it with a different ROM, but if that fails it's most likely a hardware fault.
I'm having battery trouble too, I switched to WM6 with a full battery that lasted for about 24 hours and it became 7-8 hours, so I switched back to my previous ROM and Radio ver and it still says I only get 7-8 hours average, I'm gonna try to hard reset it on more time, and then i'm just gonna try a new battery.
I dont know what caused this to happen, because i havent flashed anything new on my phone or made any changes for like a week now, but today when i got home from school and plugged in my phone, a few seconds later i get the messaged telling me that it is fully charged, even though the battery on the status bar says it is at 20%. i tried wiping the battery stats in cwm but it didnt fix it.
Possibly dirty usb port/connector. Otherwise, turn the phone off to charge it. If it still doesn't charge right, it could be that the battery went bad.
oh lol i cant believe i didnt realize this. i just got a new keyboard and i had my phone charger plugged into the usb port that is on the back of they keyboard, i shouldve known it cant charge off of that i was being stupid hah. plugged it into the computer and it works fine.
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oh lol i cant believe i didnt realize this. i just got a new keyboard and i had my phone charger plugged into the usb port that is on the back of they keyboard, i shouldve known it cant charge off of that i was being stupid hah. plugged it into the computer and it works fine.
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The phone will say it is charged when you plug it into a USB port with too low of a current rating.
I do not know what the cutoff threshold is, however I have a variety of USB ports and adapters that I charge my phone off of and some of them work great, but a couple of them have extremely low current ratings and the phone just says "charged" because it is not seeing enough power go into the battery.
This might be considered a bug, if there was a way for the hardware / charging drivers to measure the strength of the USB port the phone is attached to instead of solely looking at the current flowing into the battery.
Hrm. Weird that it would report charged when it doesn't get enough current to properly charge.
On a related note - I would also recommend doing a deep drain / charge cycle about once per month, to calibrate the battery charge sensor.
- Charge your phone to 100%.
- Then discharge it down to 0%.
- Then charge it back up to 100% via the OS.
- Turn the phone off, and keep it plugged in to the charger. A green battery icon will appear, and indicate when the battery is fully charged to 100%.
- Reboot the phone into recovery, and wipe battery stats.
Doing this about once per month for any Li-Ion battery will help calibrate the battery charge sensors on the device, giving you more accurate battery charge stats.
Hi all.. My Evo Shift 4G seems to have developed a charging issue.. I'm not sure if the phone is not reading the voltage from the battery properly or what.. Basically, my phone will not charge over 85%... In other words -- it never reaches 90%+ on the phone, which would typically cause the charging indicator to change from amber to green.
I've watched what the phone supposedly sees with 'Battery Monitor Widget'. Currently, the phone has been on the AC charger for about 7 hours... The phone reports 77% charged, 32.1 degrees C for the battery, 4024mV. I've watched it during the charge cycles, and when the battery is low, the current is definitely being applied to the battery -- around 500-600 mA. When it gets close to 70%, however, it starts ramping down the current.. Right now, at that 77% level, it is showing 0mA being applied to the charging circuit.
I have 3 batteries -- two HTC original batteries, one about 2 weeks old, the other from March.. I also have a 3rd party battery.. All of the batteries behave the same in MY phone.. If I throw the batteries into a couple of friend's HTC phones (one has a Hero, the other a MyTouch 4G) -- their phones report the charge at 100%.
I also have an external charger -- if I charge the batteries in that fully, my phone shows 85% charge, while my friend's phones will show the batteries at 100%. Likewise, if I put their batteries in my phone once theirs are fully charged, my phone will show it at 85%.
Anyone know how or if I can correct this?
Thanks,
Rick
Have you tried clearing the battery stats and re-calibrating?
Ron Overdrive said:
Have you tried clearing the battery stats and re-calibrating?
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I would suggest you do that.
Your phone would have to be rooted though.
Evo SHIFT
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I would suggest you do that.
Your phone would have to be rooted though.
Evo SHIFT
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It is rooted.. I get the same behavior on CM7 or the rooted OTA 2.3 update by x99..
I've tried clearing the battery stats.. That has not worked.. I believe it comes down to a problem with how my phone is reading the voltage of the battery..
Worked for me...
I had the same problem but the it could charge to 93ish% percent, not 85. I fixed by clearing the battery stats, setting the screen to never go off, and left it on overnight (while I'd been using it all day), recharged it to full while it was off the next morning, and unplugged the charger and reinserted it until when I could plug it in starting with the light green. Following, I turned it on while it was still plugged in, downloaded the battery calibration app from the market, and calibrated it.
Afterwards, I've been able to get the same outrageous battery life that others claimed they got on roms like evervolv and miui, and been able to charge to full. See if this works for you.
Have you tried a different charger? Say if you are using the wall try a usb or if using a usb try a wall. Just a suggestion don't know if it'll work.
EDIT: Looks like I need to follow my own rules and read everything fully. Sorry for the ignorant post it'll prob be no help!
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Have you tried a different charger? Say if you are using the wall try a usb or if using a usb try a wall. Just a suggestion don't know if it'll work.
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I've tried charging via a number of different chargers:
1) HTC AC Charger (5V/1A)
2) Computer USB (5V 500mA)
3) Palm Pre AC Charger (5V/1A)
4) Palm Pre Car Charger (5V/1A)
5) Aftermarket AC Charger (5V/1A)
I think there may be a problem with CWM. I tired the wipe battery stats a few times (7) and it seems like it didn't do anything. Then I downloaded an app from the market called battery calibration, wiped with the app. I think it actually worked with the app, as my run times went from about 8-9hrs to well over 24. Hope this helps - Viperspike
From what i understand, charge to 100%, turn phone off and charge a little more, reboot, wipe batt stats and unplug. Run all the way down to zero (phone shutdown) and restart one more time (it should immediately turn off) Then plug in the charger, and reboot. Once on the charger make sure it charges uninterrupted until it reaches 100% the first charge.
Thats the problem.. I can never get anywhere near 100% -- 85% is the top.. At that point current drops to 0mA and the charging circuit turns off.
I did send a support request to HTC.. This is their response:
You were having issues with the battery life on your HTC EVO Shift 4G. You mention that you have tried another battery but you cannot get the LED indicator light to turn green or the charge percentage to go above 85%. You state that you have tested your two batteries in a friend’s MyTouch 4G and HTC Hero. Both devices show 100% when there is an indication of a full charge. Unfortunately, there might be another hardware related issue causing this to occur so I would suggest you consider a repair request for your Android device.
Hi guys I have been facing a strange issue whenever I install any windows phone 7 rom no matter what i do the phone refuses to charge using a usb cable or charger if i go back to android same usb and charger work fine for charging please advise
i noticed that too. on my pc it charges either VERY slow or not at all. because i left my hd2 on usb for 2 hours. it was only halfway full. i though i was going crazy good thing im not the only one who noticed this.
on the wall adapter it charges fine.
For me the above mentioned issue exists on all the roms
I think i found a workaround for people having issues while usb charging on wp7
This a bit of a hassle and has to be done everytime u see that the phone is not charging via usb
uninstall the driver for windows phone device from device manager and then connect the phone it will reinstall the driver and the led will turn red if it blinks that means its not charging
If anyone has this issue and needs detailed steps please let me know
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i noticed that too. on my pc it charges either VERY slow or not at all. because i left my hd2 on usb for 2 hours. it was only halfway full. i though i was going crazy good thing im not the only one who noticed this.
on the wall adapter it charges fine.
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For me the above mentioned issue exists on all the roms
I think i found a workaround for people having issues while usb charging on wp7
This a bit of a hassle and has to be done everytime u see that the phone is not charging via usb
uninstall the driver for windows phone device from device manager and then connect the phone it will reinstall the driver and the led will turn red if it blinks that means its not charging
If anyone has this issue and needs detailed steps please let me know
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I have never heard nor experienced the phone not charging on WP7 on USB. The HD2 takes longer than 2 hours for a full charge if it's at a point of total discharge or close to it. Even on WM 6.5 the HD2 usually takes about 3-4 hrs to fully charge after near total discharge.
Secondly, a blinking LED during charge (whether PC or wall) means your battery and phone are overheated. Overheating happens if you are using the phone while plugged in. Even if blinking it is still charging. Best to unplug until cool..then keep charging and not use the phone.
Buy a second battery and external charger.
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I have never heard nor experienced the phone not charging on WP7 on USB. The HD2 takes longer than 2 hours for a full charge if it's at a point of total discharge or close to it. Even on WM 6.5 the HD2 usually takes about 3-4 hrs to fully charge after near total discharge.
Secondly, a blinking LED during charge (whether PC or wall) means your battery and phone are overheated. Overheating happens if you are using the phone while plugged in. Even if blinking it is still charging. Best to unplug until cool..then keep charging and not use the phone.
Buy a second battery and external charger.
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Wow thanks a ton for the info
but i have a question if i connect the phone to usb the battery blinks and while connected the battery tool shows battery getting drained as well at the top the battery icon shows that the phone is charging. and then if I immeadeatly connect it to the wall charger the blinking goes away and battery tool shows charging active so what can be the issue any help would be appreciated
Also i have tried almost all windows phone 7 roms and my normal drain is -300 to -500 have tried rom with 5.51 and 5.12.50_02 radio as well along with the camera trick still the battery drain is high
Yesterday i installed wm6.5
task 29
install magldr
clear sd mbr
use last 24 nand
install wp7
booted and did camera trick
entered flight mode
still the drain is -150
I love WP7 and dont wish to go back to android sorry for the long post please help
WP on our Leo doesn't have a clue what its doing with the battery, its been an issue from the start.
best bet to get the most out of your device is to get yourself an external charger and spare battery.
even if you do get it charging via USB or the wall adaptor, it might not charge up the device, it might say its full but is only half full, or it might say it half full and its actually full.
UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
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UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
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I really don't think its a "nobody cares" situation. We can be pretty confident that if a solution was at all possible it would have been found and implemented by now. The devs do a great job and i for one am blown away by the roms they produce and offer to to us free.
Every smart phone on the market has battery life issues which tells us even the manufacturers cant really get a grip on the issue either.
You could always hack a li poly bat to fit the HD2, of course that's only if you accept the risk it might swell up and catch fire while charging
i dont think kicking the devs and other forum members will make you many freinds.
Good luck
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UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
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its not about not caring, there are two issues at hand.
the first one is the phone wont charge when turned off, this might be fixable.
the big one is the battery controller, a battery in a phone has a small IC that controls the charge, temps, stats etc. The issue I believe is that the driver which WP users to control the battery controller isn't designed for our device.
The HD2 is similar to the HD7 but it is not the same. The issues we have with it are likely because the driver is either for another device or a basic test driver put together to "make do"
creating a driver isn't a matter of slapping a few files together. So your choices are to
A, give up on the HD2 WP7
B, Make do with what you have
C, Grab a spare battery and external charger
D, Fix the issue yourself, given that some of the most talented folk on here hasn't done this yet suggests this wont be easy!
Flashed 2.12 radio, can't say it's good now, but much better than was with 2.15. I think 2.12 + new battery with bigger capacity (2300) = pretty good solution for now.
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Flashed 2.12 radio, can't say it's good now, but much better than was with 2.15. I think 2.12 + new battery with bigger capacity (2300) = pretty good solution for now.
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except your 2300mAh battery probably wont work at all.
Theres been reported issues with extended batteries either A not working or B having issues, such as only charging part of it.
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except your 2300mAh battery probably wont work at all.
Theres been reported issues with extended batteries either A not working or B having issues, such as only charging part of it.
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Crap...
dazza9075 said:
WP on our Leo doesn't have a clue what its doing with the battery, its been an issue from the start.
best bet to get the most out of your device is to get yourself an external charger and spare battery.
even if you do get it charging via USB or the wall adaptor, it might not charge up the device, it might say its full but is only half full, or it might say it half full and its actually full.
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If your phone shows only a half charged battery icon after charging for the full few hours, shutdown the phone and reboot. Doing this shows the correct icon and can confirm via battery status app or battery tool app.
The thing is when you flash a new ROM, it takes the battery, phone, and WP a couple of charge/discharge cycles to get sync'd up and show the proper charges. The key is to let the battery drain until close to total discharge (don't let the phone shut off because of battery or you'll be hosed) then charge a couple of cycles.
Getting a spare battery and external charger is always a good suggestion no matter what.
Yes, restarts are always handy to get full charge, if you do kill your battery so you can't boot to windows, try put phone in bootloader, or magldr, it will charge in there, give it 20 min and windows will boot just fine
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So I let the phone get below 15% the other day and I plugged it into a charger from an older samsung device and continued browsing. Before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone booted up like it normally would (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger. The phone normally gets pretty hot while charging, now it just stays cold.
NOTE: I had it charging trough the night with the old charger but it didn't go over 15%.
I am running Ressurection remix 20150714.
I think it's got something to do with the hardware, and if it does, would the warranty fix this?
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So I let the phone get below 15% the other day and I plugged it into a charger from an older samsung device and continued browsing. Before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone booted up like it normally would (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger. The phone normally gets pretty hot while charging, now it just stays cold.
NOTE: I had it charging trough the night with the old charger but it didn't go over 15%.
I am running Ressurection remix 20150714.
I think it's got something to do with the hardware, and if it does, would the warranty fix this?
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That's really not normal if your phone don't get hot while charging
Try a different cable (maybe it charging too slow), buy a new charger or charge your phone on PC. Check if an app use much battery/CPU and check if the battery is swollen or try an another battery. Update your ROM version maybe it's a software bug or reflash it. If nothing solve the problem then maybe you need to clear the usb socket of your phone or it's maybe damanged . Be careful if you clear the usb socket!
Sorry for too much maybe's
Good luck :highfive:
I checked the port, it's pretty nasty but I doubt that's the problem. I'll try and clean it up with a toothpick or something.
Checked the CPU usage and apps and it all seems normal.
I'm not home currently, but I'll do a full reset and roll back to cm11 when I get back.
I've used a travel charger from an older device, an Alcatel charger which actually charged my phone and my factory charger. The factory charger works best for now but it still takes like 5 hours to charge. The phone took less than 2 hours before...
Anyway thanks for the help so far, I really appreciate it.
How much mA you get while charging with the original one? Check it via Gsam battery app
Downloaded it, here's what I got.
Gsam is alternative of Bbs, but with better gui. Look at my ss - I can saw mA of discharge and charge the battery. With stock battery Ive got around 750mA
Yesterday for whole night i kept the mobile for charging and it showed 8% charged i thought it charged up and removed the socket before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone showed the sign of charging but it ended up (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger and it wont shows any sign of life.
NOTE: I charged for whole night but is charged to only 8%