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Well after reading through the forums and seeing a lot of the threads I thought I was going to regret buying the Leo. I got it a week ago on Tmobile for £20 a month and it cost £31 for the device. A lot cheaper than getting an iphone.
Basically none of my fears have been realised. The keyboard worries were sorted by switching to Swype, which is truly amazing. The SMS problems I never had really because I changed to ROM 1.61 early on via Goldcard. The battery life seems fine to me for such a high specced device with a huge screen. That screen is amazing. The size is immense, I love it. The sensitivity is incredible and was something that I always longed for since coming across the iphone. The phone is big but thin and I don't even notice it in my pocket.
HTC Sense is really good. Not perfect but way better than a lot of reviewers would have you believe. I've come across a few things that have bugged me but so far I have managed to find something on this forum to overcome them all. The only thing that still hasn't been sorted is the pink hue to the camera and the inability to control the bluetooth volume on the handset. But these are liveable with.
I should add that I came from an HTC Kaiser and maybe I am a bit jaded because I grew to love that device despite the frequent need for reboots and the many limitations (the whole hardware acceleration debacle). I love customising my phones and overcoming the problems and xda-developers is surely one of the best resources ever. This site really makes owning a windows mobile phone a pleasure. TBH If it didn't exist I don't think windows mobile would still exist.
Anyway I am convinced that the Leo/HD2 is by far the best phone on the market by a long way.
Its nice to read positive threads, Im getting mine tomorrow and hope I have the same experience Mines on Tmobile too so I hope I dont get the sms problems, however Im just gonna go to the 1.48 ROM as Im waiting for a hardspl.
Merry Christmas
By far the best phone experience I've had.
Of course there's a few issues like getting use to ultra sensitive qwerty and a red camera (installed hotfix, tinge is still there though improved slightly). But most of my qualms are with vodafone who won't issue a like for like replacement if the phone gets damaged or won't allow any new rom upgrades.
Still. Loving it!
I'm just venting my frustration (and such appologies to the forum moderators) but I do hope someone is listening.
I've had my SGS for about 2 weeks now. For the first time since I'm using _any_ sort of smartphone (many, many moons) these two weeks were constant tinkering, tweaking, lagfixing, trying leaked beta software etc. -- a LOT of frustration, with very little improvement.
So I came to this conclusion: You just cannot polish a turd
So, dear Samsung let me say it straight:
SGS is a POS. Get your act together, you are losing customers in drones. There is a good reason you are far behind HTC -- YOU SUCK
The irony of it all ? It's all in the SW -- the HW platform seems solid, with a good foundation. However, the horrible, horrible things they've done to the OS and -- not the least that HORRID TouchWhiz simply make me cringe. Personally, I would fire the project manager responsible for this abomination with a geostationary rocket.
In my personal case I've got this phone from work -- there is no chance in hell I would have handed out my hard earned cash for this POS. If, in a moment of insanity, I would have ever done so, not later than the day after I would be prompt back at my local Samsung rep and told them to stick that phone somewhere special and ask for a full refund then and there.
(Again, sincere appologies to the forum moderators -- I hope I am not breaching forum posting rules. At least not too many )
Not quite sure where your happy or content place is with your sgs but mine is with JH2 and the OCLF V2. Providing it doesn't blow up on me I think I could deal with this for a while. I feel your frustration though, the quest for perfection can certainly be less than gratifying.
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HTC also have their problems as well.
There is no perfect phone.
I owned TONS of smartphones, most by HTC: the ALL had issues.
In fact i moved away from HTC after the EVO Fiasco if the bad hardware build, 30fps cap after trying the N1 which that CHEAP screen!
There is no perfect phone. deal with it.
iphone is perfect except for restrictions on it by apple
hatin it how samsung keeps moving froyo release date
TS has a point
The topic starter has a point. Coming from a HTC Desire, you clearly experience the poor software. The HTC Desire works far better out of the box. I got my hands on a SGS through swapping providers, otherwise i would have stuck with HTC Desire.
On the other hand, its starting to grow on me, and i expect the Froyo update to make it much better (as it did to the Desire also i must admit).
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Then is it not perfect
So go tell Samsung directly if you want them to hear.. There are enough threads with people whinging, so if anything, this is a dupe.
Also, losing customers in drones? Really?? HAHAHAHAHA. Have you got any evidence for that claim? The only customers being lost seem to be at XDA, and some of them are overanalysing, such as the people who were whinging about GPS, have been saying "the iphone wouldn't have that problem", and yet, people have produced tracks which suggests it does. And "lag" is apparently no worse than previous generation devices, it certainly doesn't make the device "unusable" as many exaggerators have claimed
There are problems with every device... The question, is how much the user tries to train themselves to be annoyed by a problem.. On OSX for instance, I'd notice when a program crashed, users don't care.. But on Windows, people almost throw their keyboard
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In my personal case I've got this phone from work -- there is no chance in hell I would have handed out my hard earned cash for this POS. If, in a moment of insanity, I would have ever done so, not later than the day after I would be prompt back at my local Samsung rep and told them to stick that phone somewhere special and ask for a full refund then and there.
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Lucky you... I was one of those who did hand out hard earned for this POS... and its going to cost me even more to rectify my problem and do what I should have done in the first place: chose the iphone.
If it wasn't for this forum, I probably would have dropped it down the toilet.
Touchwiz is easily replaced with better options from the Market. There's not a single Android device sold today that have a better Launcher than a couple of the ones on the Market IMO, and it's easy to replace the stock one. + for Android.
In my mind there is only 1 huge problem with this phone, and that is the RFS filesystem that causes lag.
GPS is an issue as well, but nothing major. It works well enough for most people.
Other than these 2 issues, this phone is awesome.
This is the best phone I have ever bought. If it was stolen, I would but another one for sure. I an not sure why you are going nuts about it, but I am sure that types like you whiners would go crazy about a "prefect" iphone (lol) as well!
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My mates with Iphones do not have the same gps problems as I do. If I geocache with them my gps jumps wildly and cannot in many cases get me close enough to find something. The iphones haven't had any problems, though appear to have worse accuracy "in general". I think when the gps is fixed it will be heaps more accurate, but it's fluctuation now makes it virtually useless.
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Not really http://discussions.info.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1139
I've spent the last 4 months looking for a good phone after having an iphone 3G which once jailbroken was superb but I got bored of it in the end and the battery life was terrible.
I had the Dell Streak which I got rid of because I didnt like Dells silence over the 2.1 update or the US launch and in all honesty its a bit big.
I sold the streak and got a cheap sony x10 mini pro which was a really nice little phone even though it was on 1.6 with no definate date for upgrade and when someone on here wanted to trade his HTC Desire for it I jumped at the chance.
The Desire was really good solid build stock 2.2 was very good but sense annoyed me and slowed the phone down. Multi touch was terrible. the desire cant even do 2 point touch properly let alone five like the SGS. This made playing games impossible and the HTC bluetooth stack is borked so it doesnt support wiiremotes unless you flash opendesire.
So I sold that and got an SGS for £9 more off ebay and I like it
I've had my SGS for 2 days now. It was on 2.1 JF3 when I got it so I rooted it and put on the lag fix. It was still under performing so I put the newest build of 2.2 on the JPK thing. installed launcher pro which is the closest to stock 2.2 I've found.
Although its still an early version it flies. I think people have to keep the faith a bit. Companies are terrible at shipping devices to market too early just to beat the competition. I think thats happened alot this year.
There isnt a single perfect Android device out there right now and if your after perfection you really shouldnt consider android. Its great for geeks like me who like to tinker. If thats not you then go get a nokia or an iphone.
I even registered for this
I own a SGS my wife owns an iPhone4. I feel my phone is significantly better, despite my wife's phone costing significantly more.
The iphone is not perfect...things I dont like
1. They do not yet have a free satnav app.
2. You cannot email more than one photo at the same time.
3. Does not have swype
4. Smaller screen
5. No back button (top left corner of screen always has to have a back button)
6. You have to pay extra for everything (ring tones etc.)
7. SGS is much more resistant to drop based damage
8. No customisable home screen for regularly used functions which occasionally are multi-level deep in an iPhone
9. No removable storage
10. No chance of a flash browser...
Do not get me wrong the iPhone 4 is an exceptionally good phone, but the SGS IMO is better and cheaper!
Additionally I have noticed my battery lasts a day longer than my wife's (completely unscientific testing though).
For balance I will point out the things on my wife's phone that are superior to SGS
1. Camera has a flash (the flash is not great, but it is better than nothing).
2. The text rendering is superior
3. The safari touch screen movement is superior (difficult to explain why you need to use both to appreciate what I mean)
My wife's iPhone 4 regularly (approx twice weekly) asks her to re-enter the wifi security code for our house, that bug to me is far more annoying than anything I have experienced on my phone so far.
Great!
Tesmond said:
I own a SGS my wife owns an iPhone4. I feel my phone is significantly better, despite my wife's phone costing significantly more.
The iphone is not perfect...things I dont like
1. They do not yet have a free satnav app.
2. You cannot email more than one photo at the same time.
3. Does not have swype
4. Smaller screen
5. No back button (top left corner of screen always has to have a back button)
6. You have to pay extra for everything (ring tones etc.)
7. SGS is much more resistant to drop based damage
8. No customisable home screen for regularly used functions which occasionally are multi-level deep in an iPhone
9. No removable storage
10. No chance of a flash browser...
Do not get me wrong the iPhone 4 is an exceptionally good phone, but the SGS IMO is better and cheaper!
Additionally I have noticed my battery lasts a day longer than my wife's (completely unscientific testing though).
For balance I will point out the things on my wife's phone that are superior to SGS
1. Camera has a flash (the flash is not great, but it is better than nothing).
2. The text rendering is superior
3. The safari touch screen movement is superior (difficult to explain why you need to use both to appreciate what I mean)
My wife's iPhone 4 regularly (approx twice weekly) asks her to re-enter the wifi security code for our house, that bug to me is far more annoying than anything I have experienced on my phone so far.
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Welcome to the community.
Excelent post.
Congratulations and thank you for the analysis.
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Welcome to the community.
Excelent post.
Congratulations and thank you for the analysis.
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music on iphone sounds way better than sgs.
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1. They do not yet have a free satnav app.
2. You cannot email more than one photo at the same time.
3. Does not have swype
4. Smaller screen
5. No back button (top left corner of screen always has to have a back button)
6. You have to pay extra for everything (ring tones etc.)
7. SGS is much more resistant to drop based damage
8. No customisable home screen for regularly used functions which occasionally are multi-level deep in an iPhone
9. No removable storage
10. No chance of a flash browser...
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1. True, but there are cheap ones. Google navigation works terribly for me, so the SGS may as well not have one TBH. I've got no doubt its the phone not the program thats causing this. Clearly other people dont have this problem though.
2. No big deal for me or most people for that matter, but fair point.
3. True - I'll miss swype when I go back to the iphone. That said swype isnt perfect either - its often putting the wrong word in for me and i'm having to go back correcting the errors.
4. True... but its sharper and not pentile. I think the screens are a draw for me.
5. True, but it doesn't really need one IMO.
6. True - but not bothered.
7. I can imagine.
8. Yes, but then its rare you need to. Main thing I'd like to see is a button for airplane mode and to keep the screen on, but I can live with it.
9. True but it does have a lot of storage built in. Not a big deal for me.
10. To be honest the importance of this is overstated - when I've witnessed flash running on a phone it often slows to a crawl anyway.
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Do not get me wrong the iPhone 4 is an exceptionally good phone, but the SGS IMO is better and cheaper!
Additionally I have noticed my battery lasts a day longer than my wife's (completely unscientific testing though).
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Wouldnt say the SGS is better. It lags, is full of bugs and the GPS doesn't work at all for many people. The build quality is questionable (though I dont mind).
However, you really have to be joking about the battery? My mate has an iphone 4, and the battery life is not just slightly better on his, it is STAGGERINGLY better. We are both heavy users, and his is easily double what mine can do on the battery. If your partners iphone 4 battery does not last longer than your SGS, I'd say hers is faulty, TBH.
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For balance I will point out the things on my wife's phone that are superior to SGS
1. Camera has a flash (the flash is not great, but it is better than nothing).
2. The text rendering is superior
3. The safari touch screen movement is superior (difficult to explain why you need to use both to appreciate what I mean)
My wife's iPhone 4 regularly (approx twice weekly) asks her to re-enter the wifi security code for our house, that bug to me is far more annoying than anything I have experienced on my phone so far.
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1. Not only does it have a flash, it is also FAR superior in terms of picture quality. Again, first hand experience. The SGS camera is acceptable, nothing more. The iphone camera has better sensors etc, and is actually almost as good as a compact dedicated camera from a few years ago.
2. Agreed
3. Again, agreed - even the original iphone moves around the screen better than the SGS (or any Android phone).
Now a few you forgot...
4. It runs faster - a LOT faster. Even if you lag fix an SGS, it STILL doesn't run as fast. Then again even a 1 year old Nexus One outperforms the SGS (but again, not the iphone 4).
5. Less buggy - this surely cannot be denied.
6. MUCH better apps
7. GPS actually works
8. Looks nicer
9. Far, FAR better battery life - I don't know how anyone can really say otherwise.
10. Updating it doesn't result in you having to spend an hour reinstalling apps without the aid of a (paid) backup app.
11. Resale value, come the day, will be FAR superior. In the UK, we have phone recycling sites (which no doubt, so will you)... and already the maximum price you can get for the SGS is around £115. That is APPALLING. You can STILL get £190 for a 2 year old iphone 3G. Big deal, you may think, but for me, this more than offsets the extra cost of the phone. In actual fact, a 16Gb SGS was £550 when it came out in the UK, £50 MORE than the iphone. Yet, in a years time, when you want to sell it, you'll still get £350 for the iphone, but you'll probably be lucky to get much more than £100 for the SGS, so TCO the iphone is actually significantly cheaper.
As for your wifi bug, again, I'd say that was a faulty phone - I certainly never had that problem with my 3G.
Also, if your iphone gets faulty, then Apple will replace it there and then. I wouldn't like to imagine what would happen if I sent it to Samsung given their dire customer service in this country.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no iphone fanboy, if I was, there would only have been one choice for me, but you're pushing it saying the SGS is better and cheaper, because frankly, it's only better on paper. In reality, its very different.
Currently rocking a captivate, love the phone but thinking about getting a galaxy tab and downsizing my phone to aria with CM and overclocked to 850. I can make about 200$ towards the tab purchase selling my cappy and picking up a aria.
Any input? anyone make the move from a bigger screen?
The Aria's size and build is really great, with a lot of nice hardware features.
I'm not sure about overclocking though, it's reasonably fast without it, and would likely result in about 26 minute battery life.
I actually just posted a big long comparison on another forum for a debate between the two. I'll copy & paste the whole thing for ya, if you care to read it.
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So I'll lay my full opinion on the table, as its a pretty recent experience for me. It's a long story, so if you're patient enough to read it, here it goes:
I pre-ordered an iPhone 4, and when I got it, it was defective. Not one of the reception issues or other things people were complaining about at the time... it was just defective. Being that stores hadn't even filled all of their pre-orders, there wasn't a chance in hell I was getting a replacement any time soon. I decided, since that had been my 3rd iPhone (had an original 2g, and a 3G-S before it) that I'd head to the Android side and try it out.
I don't remember how I found out about the Captivate, but I think a friend mentioned it and we started looking into it. It seemed like a great phone, but it wasn't being released until about 2 weeks down the line at this point in time. I spoke to some folks at Best Buy where I had bought the iPhone 4 and expressed my interest in the Captivate. I was able to get the Aria for the time being, and return it with no return fee and exchange it for the Captivate when it was released.
My first reactions with the Aria were mixed. I was blown away by Android from the start, but knowing (spec's wise) that the Captivate was a better phone I never took the time to fully appreciate it. I was also naive to many things about it since I was new to Android and hadn't fully wrapped my head around it yet. So, then I got my Captivate and dove head first into Android. At first I loved it. It's a powerful phone and does a lot of things real well. It has its downsides, though. My biggest gripe at first was the GPS. I use a GPS pretty frequently for various things, and I hadn't bought a new standalone GPS unit because I had this phone. So it not working mattered to me. It rarely connected at all until the over the air update. Then I randomly had problems with it turning itself off. My first one was fine for months, then one day I pulled it out of my pocket to check the time and it was off. Then it happened again the next day... and then twice the next. I got a warranty replacement. That one did the same thing after a month. Got that one replaced... lasted about 2 weeks, same problem. I charge the phone once a night when I get home from work until it's full, and unplug it afterwards. The battery usually lasts me to at least 40% even with heavy use on the average day... so can't see it being that I messed up all 3 batteries some how. Also, when I'd turn it back on the battery was never dead. I've never had a similar problem with any of the smartphones I've had in the past.
So, I went back to AT&T and told them I want an Aria instead. I had done some research on the Andriod phones available on AT&T currently and I thought it would be my next best option. I went on different forums, read reviews, went into stores and played with the different options, etc. I knew I would be making some concessions and giving up some things, but at this point I just wanted a reliable smartphone.
So I've had the Aria for a few days now (less than a week), but I already realize so many things that I hadn't noticed in comparison to the Captivate at first because I was new to Android and didn't know better. Here's my list:
1. I love Sense. I was ready to load up ADW right away because I was use to using it, because TouchWiz sucked. I can't see myself replacing Sense anytime soon.
2. The GPS works perfectly. Connects just about instantly, and is way more accurate than any of my Captivate's were.
3. I actually appreciate the small size more now after having a big 4" screen for a while. While it was weird to type on the smaller screen at first, SwiftKey made that all better. Now I don't want a big screen phone anymore.
4. Based off of the dBm and asu numbers, I actually get a little better reception on my Aria at the places I frequent most.
5. A lot of my favorite apps run generally less buggy on the Aria then on any of my Captivates. Handcent is one of them, for example.
6. Now, I don't know or care why, but stock vs. stock my Aria seems smoother, snappier, and faster navigating around general apps and such. No, games don't play better on it for obvious reasons. Everything else that I use, though... not laggy at all.
The bad:
1. Storage... not a lot of room for apps (though, I haven't run out yet). I stuck my 16gig stick in it for pictures and such, but without Froyo on it yet, the low internal storage thing kinda sucks. Yes I know I can put a froyo rom on it and store apps to SD. I may, but right now I don't have any need to.
2. The camera doesn't compare. The only thing it matches up to is megapixels, which mean nothing really. The Captivate camera, even without a flash, is amazing. The Aria camera still does the trick for simple stuff, though.
3. The optical wheel can be finicky, but maybe I'm just not use to it yet.
4. I wish the screen was a little bigger for certain websites and things... but its really not as bad as I'd thought it would be.
In all honestly... those 4 things are the worst I can say about it so far. It's a great phone, and its changed what I thought I "needed" in a smartphone.
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Currently rocking a captivate, love the phone but thinking about getting a galaxy tab and downsizing my phone to aria with CM and overclocked to 850. I can make about 200$ towards the tab purchase selling my cappy and picking up a aria.
Any input? anyone make the move from a bigger screen?
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I have a Captivate and my wife has the Aria.
Captivate rocking Cognition FroYo
Aria rocking Cyanogen FroYo
The Aria is a great little phone and I'm always tinkering with it BUT the difference in screen size and resolution is so many worlds apart that I don't think I could ever downgrade on the screen. It's like the difference between high and standard def tv. Now that I have a nice HD TV I cannot stand to watch standard definition anymore. The Super Amoled screen cannot be beat.
Besides the screen size, from a Captivate point of view, the keyboard can be a little cramped but i can still use but just not as easy.
It sounds like you will be using the Aria for normal phone stuff and your Galaxy Tab will become your surfing and gaming machine. That would be a pretty cool setup if you didn't mind carrying 2 devices. The ultimate setup if you could afford it would be the Captivate and the Galaxy Tab!
I know the Captivate has gotten a bad rap, but I have not had any issues with mine. GPS is weak but it does work but then again I have GPS in my vehicles so I don't really use it.
Thanks for the replies guys, I just want a smaller phone.. I think im going to pick up a Aria on craigslist and give it a go for a few days, can always sell it again.
Thanks again!
I was highly impressed by Streak's 5" Inch and good battery life. However lack of development on software side is forcing me to think otherwise. I plan to buy from ebay, and my observation is I9000 is the same price as Streak. Spec wise I9000 is better than Streak apart from battery life and screen size. HD2 is cheaper, has the same proc as Streak and has a slightly larger screen than Galaxy S. HD2 and Galaxy S both have very good user base and lots of custom builds are being developed.
Am I wrong to think that it would be foolish to buy a Streak now and instead should go for HD2/Galaxy S?
Your feedback is kindly appreciated.
Forget the Streak (or any other Dell device). Dell just isn't up to the task.
Aside from the glacially-slow development times, the hardware just isn't 2011-quality.
If you can wait a bit, I would wait. If you cannot, get a Galaxy.
(Too bad HTC doesn't make a larger phone like the Streak.)
It's very much a question about what you need in a phone..
The streaks are unique in using a 5 inch lcd. you can really not get the experience in any other phone.
The very special use/customization of android is also unique. I love it because the super good readability and space for text input.
The HD2 is running windows mobile os, which is ultra customizable, but requires you to be willing to use time to make it work as you want.
Galaxy S phones are very good in their own way. Good implementation of android, and easy to operate. Good screen as they use s-amoled technology, very rich colors (some say it is too rich, so it becomes unnatural) but at only 4 inches, it's a bit crowded when you input text..
My thoughts only...
EDIT: maybe I should include the EVO 4G/desire HD to the mix? Good quality hardware, very innovative, and 4,3 inches.. Very good alternative indeed.
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If I could go back, I would not get Streak simply because it is made by Dell. Dell doesn't have experience in making phone, and unlike Apple, they are never been good in software either.
Thanks for input guys.
It's a shame that Dell failed to provide support for their first venture into android. Wonder why they are releasing new handsets in this competitive market.
I am looking for a balance between value for money and spec. Galaxy is good spec wise but ~£100 more than HD2. Pros- Better proc, better battery life and possibly better custom build support in the future. It's negative points would be- smaller screen size (better qual though) and poor build quality.
HD2 is relatively cheap now compared to it's spec due it based on winmo. However there are loads of froyo builds available now. Pros of HD2- 4.3" screen and price.
Desire HD is very expensive atm.
I am inclined towards HTC HD2 now.
I had the galaxy s for 4 months. Loved it at first then started finding all the screw ups samsung made. Flashed every custom rom i could find. Seemed like i was constantly trying to fix something that was borked. Love the streak. Not NEARLY as many problems as plague the galaxy s phones. Just read their forums. Gps problem this......lag problem that.......etc etc. All true. Big headache.
Go for the Streak, with some simple tweaking it rocks. No other phone even comes close.
Great to hear streak has good potentials cause I just ordered mine at usd$154 on starhub 2 year contract.
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Oh dear! Yesterday it was 3-0 against Streak. Two points for Streak today and now the margin is 3-2 against Streak!
From what I understand, none of them is perfect, but the question is which one is more productive?
Galaxy S does seem to have a lot of bugs which again pushes me to opt for HD2. Mind you my original choice was Streak, and the reason I am reconsidering my decision is lack of development on software.
Streak 1 man show (DJ Steve as a Dev) do we need more NOOo, I don't want to have 150 different thread with roms, and an extra 300 threads of people crying about stuff not working, LAGFIX what lagfix we dont even have lag, I'm still running Steve's 1.1.1. I have and will NEVER run Official anything on my Streak, I have a friend with an X10, it has some issues, for example no stable froyo no multi touch, not enough ram, colrs are not displayed correctly, Galaxy S, you need Lagfix WTF is dat? will never know, GPS fix... and so. I have zero issues besides my faulty internal memory and perhaps the most annoying i can find on my streak is that the compass is a little bit off by 3 degrees or so. But I love this one man show everything runs smoothly I don't get crazy force close, shut downs, reboots, I don't need to load roms using a PC I just copy update.zip to an SD bam ROM flashing on the road. can you that with Samsung? Sony ? no I haven't mentioned HTC because I havent played with one yet but I'll drop it here too if I use one.
to add more HD2 someone metioned WinMo 6.5 that can run Froyo with no issues and I bet thtat's what the OP will be doing
At the end you pick what you think is best for you, personal choice Streak wins all the way, I'm not a person who is always talking on the phone I browse and text more than what I talk hence my inclination towards the streak.
and which one is more productive? good question some say more "royalty space" or screen area makes you more productive hence dual monitors @ offices and stuff. So there you go that feeds my answer so go Streak!!!
Samsung releases devices then moves on. Be careful believing they'll roll out upgrade after upgrade.
People can complain about Dell's decision to put 1.6 on the device, but they've promised 2.2 by end of year all along.
I want froyo... but 1.6 on the Streak is still very solid.
To me the question when buying the Streak is exclusively about form factor. If you want a big pocketable device... the Streak is great.
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CGI_Ram said:
Samsung releases devices then moves on. Be careful believing they'll roll out upgrade after upgrade.
People can complain about Dell's decision to put 1.6 on the device, but they've promised 2.2 by end of year all along.
I want froyo... but 1.6 on the Streak is still very solid.
To me the question when buying the Streak is exclusively about form factor. If you want a big pocketable device... the Streak is great.
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Agree with all of the above, +1 for the Dell Streak!
100% Streak
I've had the streak since day 1 that it was sold in the US, and I've done all the ROM's that DJ_Steve has released (Man, that guy is crazy amazing) I used to be the guy who got a new phone every month, trying to find something even better. And now, I've had the streak for a while. Its just so....big. There's nothing like pulling out your phone and watching a movie on the go on a big screen like this. There's no way I can go back to a smaller phone. And for the people complaining about performance, sure, I can see that if you remained on the stock 1.6 (even then, it wasn't so bad) But with the mods and RoM's that are coming out rather regularly, this phone blows everything out of the water by a long shot. Highly recommend
for Dell Streak owners for 2 months +
How is the battery life in Android 1.6 and Android 2.2 ( froyo ) for a multi-tasking usage ( GPS , browsing through 3G , browsing through Wi-Fi , listening to music , watching videos or movies )
You feedback are highly appreciated
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Khalid - Computerized
My HTC HD2 died from touchscreen death...so its fresh in my head.
To me this streak i got to replace it is head and shoulders over the HTC HD2.
yes its bigger but its proportional to an HD2 so your not walking around with a giant square screen or nothing. the Streak fits nicely in your hand.
i could not be happier with this streak..
I came from a HD2 and I loved the phone, after my contract ended, I did consider just sticking with it cos I couldn't think of a phone that was better than it and did not want to go backwards with screen size, until I randomly walked into an O2 store and saw this monster and had no idea what it was, had a play around and I liked it, youtube more of it when I got home and thought I really want it.....more than anything it was just the sheer size that sold it to me....never used android before and I've only heard good things about it....so I thought what the hell, and I have to say....not been disappointed at all.
I've been on 1.6 since I got it in July and I've been happy with it, but just recently, after installing the official 2.2, it changed everything and I can't believe how much quicker it is, especially after some extra tweeks. The phone still has some problems but not enough for me to hate it and if you look around, I'm sure you'll find quite a few threads of people complaining about his that and the other with some people truely hating the phone. But if your a patient person who doesn't let the little things annoy you too much then the Streak will be great to use.
But if you want a solid phone, then you won't go wrong with the HD2, I would have loved to try Froyo on that bad boy. HTC did a really good job of stuffing the phone with a great UI and lots of little features. When showing the phone of to my mates, I could sell it to them with this feature and that feature, but now with my Streak...I can't really think of anything to try and show them bar showing them how awesome the massive screen is. It's almost like HTC made the HD2 awesome for your where as you have to make the Dell awesome for yourself if you know what I mean (having to install updated firmware, fill you phone with lots of apps, choosing your own UI etc).
As for the Galaxy S, I really didn't like the feel of the phone itself, fair enough it has Froyo with a good UI and lots of little features, but the phone felt soooo cheap and tacky I didn't think much of it, where as the Dell streak feels nice to hold (it's not perfect, bit of flex, slightly loose creeking panels) and the HD2 was even better and felt really solid (though didn't like the curved back with the sharp camera pointing out).
Sorry for the long post but thought it would help with the more detailed opinion. Let us know what you decide.
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I came from a HD2 and I loved the phone, after my contract ended, I did consider just sticking with it cos I couldn't think of a phone that was better than it and did not want to go backwards with screen size, until I randomly walked into an O2 store and saw this monster and had no idea what it was, had a play around and I liked it, youtube more of it when I got home and thought I really want it.....more than anything it was just the sheer size that sold it to me....never used android before and I've only heard good things about it....so I thought what the hell, and I have to say....not been disappointed at all.
I've been on 1.6 since I got it in July and I've been happy with it, but just recently, after installing the official 2.2, it changed everything and I can't believe how much quicker it is, especially after some extra tweeks. The phone still has some problems but not enough for me to hate it and if you look around, I'm sure you'll find quite a few threads of people complaining about his that and the other with some people truely hating the phone. But if your a patient person who doesn't let the little things annoy you too much then the Streak will be great to use.
But if you want a solid phone, then you won't go wrong with the HD2, I would have loved to try Froyo on that bad boy. HTC did a really good job of stuffing the phone with a great UI and lots of little features. When showing the phone of to my mates, I could sell it to them with this feature and that feature, but now with my Streak...I can't really think of anything to try and show them bar showing them how awesome the massive screen is. It's almost like HTC made the HD2 awesome for your where as you have to make the Dell awesome for yourself if you know what I mean (having to install updated firmware, fill you phone with lots of apps, choosing your own UI etc).
As for the Galaxy S, I really didn't like the feel of the phone itself, fair enough it has Froyo with a good UI and lots of little features, but the phone felt soooo cheap and tacky I didn't think much of it, where as the Dell streak feels nice to hold (it's not perfect, bit of flex, slightly loose creeking panels) and the HD2 was even better and felt really solid (though didn't like the curved back with the sharp camera pointing out).
Sorry for the long post but thought it would help with the more detailed opinion. Let us know what you decide.
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No doubt, Sense is good, I like it a lot. Recommended the HD2 to a friend of mine and he is very happy with it, out of the box. The basic software on the Streak is quite bland, but now that I have customized my setup it looks and works great, too. Straight stock Android is really ugly, however, just like WinMo you can turn it into whatever you want. You can get Sense on Android, too and it has all the bells and whistles as on WinMo --- just not on this 5" monster.
I have had my Streak since day one of uk release..it's the best phone I've ever had and to be honest Its the only phone that I haven't thought about upgrading / selling on ebay after 6months.
I used to use my laptop for everything now I rarely use my laptop for anything as it's always just pull out the streak and away I go.
And ever since we got Froyo on it (thanks DJ Steve) it's just amazing.. as I said used to use Laptop for BBC Iplayer, now just watch it on the streak!
Yes I agree People will buy what they need but everyone should at least consider the streak... especially if there trying to cutdown the carry weight of day to day gadgets!
Agreed, I'm lost for ideas fir what to buy myself for christmas this year. Last year I ordered an N900 but it kept getting delayed so I bought the milestone. And finally THE STREAK arrived!
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well, I would like to know if its, fast (not laggy)
can it run 2.3.3 if rooted?
hows the data speeds, call quality..
have you found yourself wanting a smaller screen (4.3/4.5)
does dell stand behind the phone? customer service!
is the screen nice, bright, vibrant. Can you read a book on it, with out wishing you just had the book! lol how would it stack up against the nook color in this department?
I have an HTC inspire, is it worht the swap at $350 for a new streak?
well, I would like to know if its, fast (not laggy)
Yes, it is fast and I do not think it to be laggy at all
can it run 2.3.3 if rooted?
It has not been release for the Streak as of yet.
hows the data speeds, call quality..
Data seems to be good for me. Call quality is very good.
have you found yourself wanting a smaller screen (4.3/4.5)
I got the device because of the screen and I have been loving it ever since.
does dell stand behind the phone? customer service!
No, not really.
is the screen nice, bright, vibrant. Can you read a book on it, with out wishing you just had the book! lol how would it stack up against the nook color in this department?
Yes, you can read a book, but I think you will have the same issues folks have with the IPAD, it is not so good in the outdoor setting for read, indoor would be just fine.
I have an HTC inspire, is it worht the swap at $350 for a new streak?
I cannot speak to this as I have never had an HTC inspire.
Mine's fast. Love it with Dell's 2.2.2 or Streakdroid 1.9. Comes down to personal taste.
2.3? No. Not yet at least. ;-)
Data/wifi are very good for me. Call quality is better than any of my previous phones. No one complains that they can't hear me. I use a Jawbone Icon most of the time.
Smaller screen? Heck no! I got this thing cause it's huge. I have a hard time imagining people working on smaller screens now. I love having 5" of real estate. Totally worth it.
I've only had one instance with Dell Mobility and they were excellent. The screen went south about 2 months after I got it so I called them. They had a replacement shipped out after a 20 minute phone call.
Dunno about books and the HTC. I use my B&W for reading and have never had an HTC. I hear awesome things about HTC though. Seems the main reason to change devices would be for screen size.
Any one know if dell will make a dell streak V2?
Also do they both have the same CPU 1Ghz? or is the inspire a newer version?
also, I would think the screen would be week, as in easy to break... I'm I wrong?
There is a rumor of another 5" model in the works, it is known as OPUS. There is a timeline about this over at streaksmart, you can find it on the forum if you want to hunt for it. You may want to checkout streaksmart.com anyhow.
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Well, the screen is not a stong point, I have had to replace it but I must say it is holding up well now. You should treat it with respect if you know what I mean.
there are no gingerbread roms for the phone, infact theres barely any roms as we have 1 rom developer. and i feel because of that we dont get the best out of the phone. besides the tether disable in the att rom, theres not any carrier crippling of the phone. the stage launcher and widgets in 2.2.2 are really nice. the screen size is very nice to have, watching movies is a great experience, especially if you turn the brightness up. however its a standard lcd and rather low def for the size so i wouldnt recommend reading a book on it. the data experience has been the best ive ever seen on a phone. it seems the speeds are much higher than on other att phones. call quality is just ok. speakers can be dim or squeelchy. the phone app is crashy and its landscape locked (like the lock screen) so if you change lcd density is all off. the sound quality for some reason is terrible. i wouldnt suggest you plug in headphones and listen to music on it. i think dell considers this thing a failure. they dont advertise it and they keep selling it for less and less like its not worth its own components. apparently they are allergic to money. i bought the phone for its screen size. i wanted something that i wouldnt need a both a tablet and a phone. but as the days move on i find myself wanting both. i think ill end up going for a 4-4.5" phone to replace this and maybe a tablet in the future. i need atleast a slightly large phone if im not going to have a physical keyboard if i want to type. im glad i bought the phone. it was a good first android phone. the hardware is dating and im think im about ready for a new one.
well, I would like to know if its, fast (not laggy)
Doesn't lag much at all on rooted stock 351
can it run 2.3.3 if rooted?
no, at least not yet
hows the data speeds, call quality..
The data speed is good. Call quality is unbelievably good (probably the best of any smart phone i've used)
have you found yourself wanting a smaller screen (4.3/4.5)
no, but 4.5 wouldn't be bad, the reason I bought the phone was the size of the on-screen keyboard (its getting harder to find good physical keyboards on Android phones)
does dell stand behind the phone? customer service!
Yes/no, It all depends on where you buy the phone. If you buy it from them they will try as hard as they can to make you happy. I have the unlocked version straight from the Dell website and I'm on my third streak and both times I called in with a device problem they tried to fix it and when they couldn't they sent me a brand new one no questions asked. I've heard that if you bought it from Best Buy, Dell may not be as helpful.
is the screen nice, bright, vibrant. Can you read a book on it, with out wishing you just had the book! lol how would it stack up against the nook color in this department?
Yes and it does pretty well outside, unfortunately I've never used a nook color outdoors so I wouldn't know how the Streak compares
I have an HTC inspire, is it worth the swap at $350 for a new streak?
The Inspire is a nice phone, but I have no Idea what roms are available for it so I couldn't tell you.
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I love my Streak and I'm hoping the second version of it will come out as planned. Also the Streak Community here on XDA is great and can help solve any issues you have with The Streak.
What don't you like about the Inspire?
Also the Screen on the Streak can seem fragile but that is because of its large surface area, I recommend an Otter Box (the commuter) It protects the device and keeps pressure off the screen while my streak is in my pocket.
hows the speaker on the streak? I dont talk much on the phone when I do, I use the speaker.. I also want to be able to hear the ringer
I love my inspire truthe be told, but if I can get something close but with w 5" screen, why not?
This really depends on the build. Older builds (pre 31x iirc) are really loud on speakerphone. After, it seems they quieted it down. When you flash 1.9.0 there's an option to enable an audio boost option that fixes it I believe.
is the screen really fragile... thats like the number one thing I keep reading..
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is the screen really fragile... thats like the number one thing I keep reading..
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Spend a few bucks and put it in an Otterbox Defender. I took a fall off my roof that put me in the hospital and I landed on my Streak. Not a scratch on it and it kept on ticking like nothing happened. Use some common sense (like NOT putting it in your back pocket and sitting down on it) and the screen will be fine.
Phone is rocket fast and awesome in every way except for battery life. I have JuiceDefender and Advanced Task Killer on mine and I still am lucky to get 12-hours of battery life...
Streak 7: crap.
Don't know about the 5 but the 7 is a total piece of garbage. The screen has serious viewing angle problems, to the point that using it in portrait mode is very unpleasant. And 800x480 is insufficient on a 7" screen.
Battery life is unacceptably bad: you won't get 48 hours of stand-by on a full battery, and that's in the "aggressive power savings" mode!
It's heavy, and the screen is fragile. Mine had problems that lasted about a day and went away as mysteriously as they arrived, but I won't be surprised if they come back and stay permanently.
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As much as I like the Streak but I am getting a little tired of the unresponsive screen once in a while it freezes up and I can't unlock it,music through the 3.5mm audiojack is pretty low and the camera is another drawback.I don't even wanna call Dell anymore since their replacement devices come with the same issue.
I started to save money to buy something new in the next few months.
Hows the GPS?
Also can the CPU be overclocked to 1.2 or 1.3?
I think the OTTER box would be great
a big battery and a car charger will take care of the battery
Volume+ or DSP will help the volume and
now the last thing that I'm worried about is the GPS and CPU, being gen 1, I would think it lags some times, since my inspire does get a little slow now and then, and the inspire had more RAM.
I'm have a great phone, but would not mind having that 5" screen
I know there is talk of other 5 inch phones but I simply do not see any...
Nothing huh?
Yeah, setcpu can overclock it to 1.2 or so. otterbox defender if you want a beltclip, commuter if you don't.
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I'm thinking of purchasing a Streak as well.
I'm curious, how many of you have had to get a replacement device from Dell? What were the reasons for this? Should I expect the same?
Thanks for the help.
The GPS on the Streak is very good, Not sure why people complain about the battery life as I have no problem with it, also I recommend the Otterbox Commuter. The screen is not as fragile as It's made out to be, also the unresponsiveness that people have is usually fixed by recalibrating the screen after installing a new Rom(I have the streak in my pocket all day and never have the problem). Finally the Streak seems to be a difficult device to consistently manufacture properly, so you may have to get a replacement due to something being defective, but in my opinion it is worth it because it is a great phone.
the only real problem I see now, is the fact that DELL makes the phone... lol I HATE talking to people from india!! If DELL were to just change that, they could be a great company again....
I'll get that 4800mah battery if I keep the phone... I just wish we had more devolpment.... So how much "better is the CPU in the HTC inspire than the streak?" is just just better on battery? I know that it can be OC to 1.8GHZ but since you cant add a big battery, thats just dumb...
Dell's Mobility(Cell phone) Support isn't in India. Also the processor in the Inspire should be more efficient due to its smaller architecture and should handle graphics better as it has a better GPU (the Adreno 205 vs. the 200). As for real world performance differences I have no idea. Personally I've never had an issue with processor power on my Streak, also I've found on mobile devices that it is the amount of free Ram that matters more than processing power.