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Ripping Movies to EVO

OK, I am retiring my iPod Touch for ripping movies to take with me on trips, to watch either on the phone or with the HDMI output. That said, what resolution should I rip DVD's to so that they look good on the phone and on an HDTV using HDMI output? I read that 1280x720 is 720P, but my test showed that the movie played fine on the phone, but looked like a 4:3 movie when I played it on my HDTV. Any comments/suggestions/experience is greatly appreciated (I *really* want to be rid of my Touch...LOL).

pixelpop said:
OK, I am retiring my iPod Touch for ripping movies to take with me on trips, to watch either on the phone or with the HDMI output. That said, what resolution should I rip DVD's to so that they look good on the phone and on an HDTV using HDMI output? I read that 1280x720 is 720P, but my test showed that the movie played fine on the phone, but looked like a 4:3 movie when I played it on my HDTV. Any comments/suggestions/experience is greatly appreciated (I *really* want to be rid of my Touch...LOL).
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use the search button. there's already a hundred threads about this, we don't need another.

How are you going to rip a DVD to 1280x720p when DVD's native res is 720x480 ntsc and 720x576 pal?
I'd say to rip your dvd's to 720x480 MP4 using Handbrake if you like free solutions or my favourite for-pay dvd ripper of choice is Win X Dvd Ripper. Look them both up.
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You can use Daniusoft DVD Ripper. It will put the movie straight to your SD card and you can manually choose the res, fps, and a lot more.
It's really nice.
http://www.daniusoft.com/dvd-ripper.html

I would recommend ether the danusoft or cucusoft DVD rippers. CucuSoft has a vary of options that you can choose from. They go from little nanos to apple TV resolutions. You can of course by their full package but you can always save a buck or 2 by getting the one your need.
Here is a link: http://www.cucusoft.com/download.aspx

Go with Handbrake, an oldie but goodie. Just make sure you encode as MPEG4 and not h.264, as the native video player on the EVO can't handle h.264.
Use most of the default options unless you know what you're doing, or have read through the help page for Handbrake.
Personally, for quality I just shoot for a target size instead of a specific bitrate. For 90-120 minutes of film, 700-800 MB is usually good enough for viewing on the EVO's screen (yes, I've tested).
For Avatar, I set it to 1500 MB as it's a long flick.

khov07 said:
Go with Handbrake, an oldie but goodie. Just make sure you encode as MPEG4 and not h.264, as the native video player on the EVO can't handle h.264.
Use most of the default options unless you know what you're doing, or have read through the help page for Handbrake.
Personally, for quality I just shoot for a target size instead of a specific bitrate. For 90-120 minutes of film, 700-800 MB is usually good enough for viewing on the EVO's screen (yes, I've tested).
For Avatar, I set it to 1500 MB as it's a long flick.
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Your smoking crack the EVO plays x.264.

Yes and no... evo will play h264's baseline profile, but not main and high profiles

It's still x.264 that's what I'm saying its easy too just select the iphone preset change the width to 800 check keep aspect ratio and change the extension to mp4 for some reason it does a m4v extension.

uh, thanks
P_Dub_S said:
Your smoking crack the EVO plays x.264.
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Thank you for the kind correction
Nonetheless, for playing ripped movies on the EVO, I'd still recommend mpeg4 as opposed to h.264, if only because the encoding job is much quicker.

timothydonohue said:
use the search button. there's already a hundred threads about this, we don't need another.
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as long as there aren't hundreds of posts about it in this thread i think its ok to ask again. settings to encode for the evo may be different for the hero or mytouch. personally i use SUPER and use the ipod settings. sometimes ill adjust to taste. for real video watching i use my archos player no encoding needed.

Follow these instructions for nice looking videos.
http://www.frankie.bz/blog/tips-and-tricks/convert-video-nexus-one/

[Q] Video conversion

Hi,
Can anyone recommend any video conversion software for the nexus 7's 7 inch screen.

There's Mediacoder and hanbrake.

I second Handbrake.

Thanks!

MediaCoder is my favourite. It's really fast and has sooo many options.
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I actually like Freemake. http://www.freemake.com/
It's free lol there's presets but you can also customize the resolution.

Can anyone suggest general settings for converting videos? Googling says to use Ipod settings? 1280x800 res? Thanks for any input

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AtropineNa said:
Can anyone suggest general settings for converting videos? Googling says to use Ipod settings? 1280x800 res? Thanks for any input
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Depends on how big a file you want. Id start with 640x360 at 1.5 mbps bitrate and go from there. I find this setting to be good enough quality at a good file size
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I tried this MediaCoder. It is ad ridden and very slow. I'd rather just remux with Wild Media Server, it takes a few minutes.

I am using Quick media Converter, and there are roughly 1000 options,
so lets start with something simple:
What codec and output file type (format) should I choose? I am guessing 16:9 aspect ratio?
Thanks!

You'll want to keep the same aspect ratio the video you're converting has. Haven't used Quick media Converter, so can't offer any specific help for it, sorry!
Could be best to try a few different settings with a short video clip to see what works best - saves having to convert a full episode, film or whatever you're converting.

Why bother converting the video file when you can use an app like MX Player that can handle most video formats ?:silly:

sidthegreatest said:
Why bother converting the video file when you can use an app like MX Player that can handle most video formats ?:silly:
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MX player is nice for a bit, but I am much more excited for vlc to drop it's beta tags. MX is to buggy and finnicky for my palate.

rmm200 said:
I am using Quick media Converter, and there are roughly 1000 options,
so lets start with something simple:
What codec and output file type (format) should I choose? I am guessing 16:9 aspect ratio?
Thanks!
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Suggest Handbrake and start with an iPad preset then adjust as follows:
MP4 container
ACC sound (stereo)
h.264 video codec , level 4.1 or lower. Maybe level 3.x to start to check for compatibility.
Audio
I suggest 128 kbit/sec with some Dynamic range compression (x2) and audio normalization - assuming you are using a movie source
For a 1080p or 720p source I would recommend setting 1280 pixel width, keep aspect ratio, and allow the converter to adjust the (output) height to be correct.
I would suggest 1400 kbit/sec for the video encode and then try higher bit rates if you like as there may be an upper bit rate limit for the hardware decoder on the N7.

Thank you!
That really covers what I was looking for.
Converting my ripped movies will keep me busy until I get my tablet.

htcsens2 said:
Suggest Handbrake and start with an iPad preset then adjust as follows:
MP4 container
ACC sound (stereo)
h.264 video codec , level 4.1 or lower. Maybe level 3.x to start to check for compatibility.
Audio
I suggest 128 kbit/sec with some Dynamic range compression (x2) and audio normalization - assuming you are using a movie source
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I was with you up until the last bit.
Avoid dynamic compression and normalisation, there's really no need.
I took Avatar from a BRD down to 37GB MKV with make MKV then used Handbrake to take that file down to a 3.69GB .MP4 file.
Took about 2 hours to do but the film looks, plays and sounds great on the N7

Video formats

Can we discuss what video formats you use for dvd rips and settings . What works what doesnt. App you use and on what os.
Me personally i make 720p mp4 videos using mpeg streamclip on my mac. I always hear ppl talking about making 1080p mkv files or whatever does the quality even matter on our none hd screens ?? Arnt dvds only 480 or 720p any how. Anyone here rip bluerays .
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Resolution:
DVDs are 480p max. If you encode to higher res, all you're doing is stretching the video for no purpose.
Stretching the res just makes the end product bigger with no quality gain, and your player or device
will stretch the video anyway.
Blurays are 1080p. The scale (e.g. 720p size reduction) and quality you use are dependent on what you
intend to play the videos on. 720p is perfect for the Galaxy Note 10.1 with its 800p screen
Suggested format:
The best video codec: h264
The best audio codec: aac
The best container: mkv (for multiple audio and subs) or mp4 (subs as well as more than two audio streams a bit troublesome)
My preference (h264 video +aac audio) in mkv.
As a rough guide:
A practical DVD rip = ~1.3-1.7 GB (~1500 kbps @480p)
A decent BluRay rip would be ~2.7 GB (~2500 kbps @720p)
A fairly transparent BluRay rip ~5 GB (~4000 kbps @720p)
Free or Commercial:
Depending on how much control you want over quality, as well as ease of use, I'd say go with a commercial solution (WinAVI is quite good).
Otherwise free solutions are quite good (e.g. RipBot264, StaxRip, Handbrake) but you will need to decrypt your purchased discs to your hard drives.

I almost exclusively watch 1080p MKV files on my Note 10.1. At first the audio had trouble staying synced with hardware decoding on every player I tried. Luckily VLC recently fixed that somehow with their Android app. I think MKV is good if you have multiple audio or subtitle tracks. Logically I know I shouldn't see a difference in quality between 720p & 1080p on this tablet, but I do. Think it has something to do with how it's scaled.

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I almost exclusively watch 1080p MKV files on my Note 10.1. At first the audio had trouble staying synced with hardware decoding on every player I tried. Luckily VLC recently fixed that somehow with their Android app. I think MKV is good if you have multiple audio or subtitle tracks. Logically I know I shouldn't see a difference in quality between 720p & 1080p on this tablet, but I do. Think it has something to do with how it's scaled.
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The 1080p could probably show better. Though the difference should be negligible.
If the video has black bars, these may be cropped in encoding. Which means the 1080p video is closer to 900p.
Encoding a cropped video to 720p may actually be closer to 544p (i.e. 1280x544p) to maintain the aspect ratio (so the video doesn't look "tall").
If the audio stream is 5.1 DTS audio, you're gonna probably have stuttering due to processing the larger audio file.
2 Channel (stereo) audio is all you need for the Note 10.1

Thanks guys so making my dvd rips 720p isnt doing anything but making a bigger file eh. Dont think mpeg streamclip has mkv which is why i use mp4 so far with no issues. My settings are h.264 aac 3000kbps bitrate limit and files are around 2 gb...
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Think im gunna look into an external blueray ripper for my mac. Any good programs for mac?
Tried handbrake but it doesnt take dvd rips, ie vob files.
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I usually rip my DVD's and convert them to .avi or mp4 at 480p or lower and purchase fullHD movies and re-encode them to 480p or 720p when i want to load them in my tablet. As long as the audio is good (i tend to favor conversion to stereo for tablet playback), i'm willing to sacrifice a little in image quality since having movies in fullHD can eat up a lot of space pretty quickly.

Thanks im trying some 480p conversion . Saving about 1/2 to 1 gb going down to 480p...
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DJsCrIBbLe said:
Thanks im trying some 480p conversion . Saving about 1/2 to 1 gb going down to 480p...
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The difference of 480p against 720p isn't very noticeable if you watch movies with your tablet at arm's length.

720p is HD, and 1080p is Full HD so we do have an HD display. And I enjoy a good MKV Bluray rip on this device using BS Player.
And watching 480p isnt as bad due to the resolution.

Very nice app to convert videos on the fly...
...is Video Converter Android, an app for the Note 10.1.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsInJvbWFuMTAubWVkaWEuY29udmVydGVyIl0.
I have many videos in different formats, which sometimes cannot be played on the note 10.1. So I loaded them on my extSD, search in this app for video files, and all are found (3Gp, MPG, everything). Then I just tap on "convert" and the app changes format so that the movie can be played with stock video player.
I do not like to wait hours for video conversion at home til my pc is done with the task. The Note works on even with display switched off, and conversion is really fast.

ensure you rip them as summed to stereo if you are using large bitrates, BS player can deal with 5.1 audio but struggles with higher bitrates as it can only decode 5.1 in software. Stock player can play 5.1 AC3

REWORDED: On this tablet, is there a way to watch a wider-than-16:9 movie so the view size is enlarged/zoomed proportionally to fill the screen vertically? Instead of stretching and distorting a wide-screen movie vertically to fill the screen to get rid of the black bars (top and bottom), is it possible to enlarge the movie proportionally for fill the screen vertically while cropping the sides? That way, the sides are cropped-off, but there's no distortion. Maybe there's other movie viewing apps that can achieve this? I'm referring to only when watching, not encoding. Thanks.

What frame height & frame width do people recommend ?

blud7 said:
Resolution:
DVDs are 480p max. If you encode to higher res, all you're doing is stretching the video for no purpose.
Stretching the res just makes the end product bigger with no quality gain, and your player or device
will stretch the video anyway.
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To be accurate NTSC DVDs are 480 horizontal lines max. PAL are (up to) 576.
But back to the OPs question, I use makemkv to RIP the DVD and then Freemake to recode to generic Android supported codecs - which also decreases the file size by a factor of 3.
Freemake allows you to set a "up to" resolution so one setting of 720p will do for all DVDs and BluRay/HD-DVDs ...

With this tablet, is there a way to watch a wider-than-16:9 movie so the view size is enlarged/zoomed proportionally to fill the screen vertically? Instead of stretching and distorting a wide-screen movie vertically to fill the screen to get rid of the black bars (top and bottom), is it possible to enlarge the movie proportionally for fill the screen vertically while cropping the sides? That way, the sides are cropped-off, but there's no distortion. Maybe there's other movie viewing apps that can achieve this? I'm referring to only when watching, not encoding.
Anyone? Thanks.

[Q] Nexus 7 video resolution and video streaming

So the NExus 7 has a resolution of 1200x800, which is very close to the native 720p resolution size.
My question is, when streaming a 1080p video file on the nexus 7, will it look any better than a video size with a resolution of 1200x800 or 720p?
Wouldn't it be better to convert the resolution of 1080p videos to 1200x800 so reduce file size yet reduce absolutely no quality?
During this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOqn62m49S0#t=11m55s the guy plays a 720p file and 1080p file, they are streamed from a usb drive but how does the performance differ on the two even though they are playing on the nexus 7 screen, so are being outputted at 1200x800?
Another question I have is can I stream a 1080p video file using micro HDMI cable from the Nexus7 to a 1080p capable TV? Will the Nexus 7 GPU output 1080p on the TV full screen?
Help is very much appreciated!

Lanky09 said:
So the NExus 7 has a resolution of 1200x800, which is very close to the native 720p resolution size.
My question is, when streaming a 1080p video file on the nexus 7, will it look any better than a video size with a resolution of 1200x800 or 720p?
Wouldn't it be better to convert the resolution of 1080p videos to 1200x800 so reduce file size yet reduce absolutely no quality?
During this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOqn62m49S0#t=11m55s the guy plays a 720p file and 1080p file, they are streamed from a usb drive but how does the performance differ on the two even though they are playing on the nexus 7 screen, so are being outputted at 1200x800?
Another question I have is can I stream a 1080p video file using micro HDMI cable from the Nexus7 to a 1080p capable TV? Will the Nexus 7 GPU output 1080p on the TV full screen?
Help is very much appreciated!
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The nexus 7 doesn't have a micro hdmi. So that's not gonna work. Only a mini USB but you can use an otg (on the go) cable to attach a flashdrive with movies you would like to watch. 1080P and 720P are compressed differently. 1080P is a much heavier format so if you really want the full 1080P experience your gonna have to stream the full size video which can be around 10gb. By reducing a 1080P video you can stream it easier and it will still be HD but quality will be less. 1080P is always going to look better than 720P because it is compressed so many times so the picture is literally made tighter increasing clarity. Lets say you took a 5mp picture and a 8mp picture and looked at them on the nexus 7 when you look closely at the pictures you can see the clarity difference between the 5 and 8 MP. Compression is what makes the biggest difference. You are cramming more and more information into a tiny place. So 1080P will look nicer on the nexus 7 but so will 720 but the details will be clearer on 1080P even though the nexus 7 outputs in a lesser resolution. But the difference will be harder to see on a smaller screen but much more noticeable in a bigger screen. But streaming a 1080P can be choppy because eventhough they are being displayed at the same resolution they are being input differently. Sorry for the long explanation
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zippox180 said:
The nexus 7 doesn't have a micro hdmi. So that's not gonna work. Only a mini USB but you can use an otg (on the go) cable to attach a flashdrive with movies you would like to watch. 1080P and 720P are compressed differently. 1080P is a much heavier format so if you really want the full 1080P experience your gonna have to stream the full size video which can be around 10gb. By reducing a 1080P video you can stream it easier and it will still be HD but quality will be less. 1080P is always going to look better than 720P because it is compressed so many times so the picture is literally made tighter increasing clarity. Lets say you took a 5mp picture and a 8mp picture and looked at them on the nexus 7 when you look closely at the pictures you can see the clarity difference between the 5 and 8 MP. Compression is what makes the biggest difference. You are cramming more and more information into a tiny place. So 1080P will look nicer on the nexus 7 but so will 720 but the details will be clearer on 1080P even though the nexus 7 outputs in a lesser resolution. But the difference will be harder to see on a smaller screen but much more noticeable in a bigger screen. But streaming a 1080P can be choppy because eventhough they are being displayed at the same resolution they are being input differently. Sorry for the long explanation
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Ok so is it possible to make a 1080p file reduced in resolution but not as compressed? So it still includes the detail you are talking about?
I thought that the pixel resolution was the main quality aspect of a video being outputted.
For the micro usb, i meant a micro usb to hdmi cable you can buy? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitvision-Micro-HDMI-Adapter-Cable/dp/B005TF2F2W

Lanky09 said:
Ok so is it possible to make a 1080p file reduced in resolution but not as compressed? So it still includes the detail you are talking about?
I thought that the pixel resolution was the main quality aspect of a video being outputted.
For the micro usb, i meant a micro usb to hdmi cable you can buy? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitvision-Micro-HDMI-Adapter-Cable/dp/B005TF2F2W
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Mhl is not currently supported on the nexus 7. So no micro USB to hdmi. 1080 P is the resolution so if your going to reduce that then it wouldn't be 1080P. It might be 1080 I which is less but 720 P and 1080 I equal out to the same resolution. Honestly 720P is going to give you plenty of clarity and I wouldn't stress about 1080 P. Unless you have 1080 P movies downloaded I wouldn't worry about it.
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zippox180 said:
The nexus 7 doesn't have a micro hdmi. So that's not gonna work. Only a mini USB but you can use an otg (on the go) cable to attach a flashdrive with movies you would like to watch. 1080P and 720P are compressed differently. 1080P is a much heavier format so if you really want the full 1080P experience your gonna have to stream the full size video which can be around 10gb. By reducing a 1080P video you can stream it easier and it will still be HD but quality will be less. 1080P is always going to look better than 720P because it is compressed so many times so the picture is literally made tighter increasing clarity. Lets say you took a 5mp picture and a 8mp picture and looked at them on the nexus 7 when you look closely at the pictures you can see the clarity difference between the 5 and 8 MP. Compression is what makes the biggest difference. You are cramming more and more information into a tiny place. So 1080P will look nicer on the nexus 7 but so will 720 but the details will be clearer on 1080P even though the nexus 7 outputs in a lesser resolution. But the difference will be harder to see on a smaller screen but much more noticeable in a bigger screen. But streaming a 1080P can be choppy because eventhough they are being displayed at the same resolution they are being input differently. Sorry for the long explanation
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Zippox your making a mistake. You are confusing scaling and compression. Compression determines files size, clarity (less pixels). Scaling which is done by your set top box, DVD/blu-ray player, computer, smart phone, tablet just makes it fit to screen or what ever size it needs to be. Will 1080p look better on nexus then a 720p that's a yes/no answer. It will depend on how much each file was compressed. Generally a 1080p file is compressed much less then a 720p. Why? Cause its resolution is too huge. Which means compression (blocks aka pixels, seeing weird shadow/dark areas move, blurry images) can be easily seen if its not done right. If you set a 1080p file and 720p file and compress them the same bit rate as the 1080 and view it on a 7" native 720p screen you will not notice a difference. Why one will be scaled down and the other will not be scaled at all. Clarity will be equal at that point. Now once that 720p file has to scale up then its defects will be shown regardless of actual screen size. And trust me you will never stream a 10gb file. You can download a 10gb file but you will never stream that. Those stream sites actually offer two completely different files. The streaming file is much more compressed. Why server load, then actual internet speeds. That would have too much strain on the server. This is why streaming is not an alternative to actually owning the file. And the digital download is not as good as its blu-ray medium.
But scaling and compression are not the same. And you were getting them confused. There is no point in a 1080p file for the nexus 7. Unless you have it 1" from your face and straining your eyes you will not see the difference if its encoded (compressed) properly. 1080p scaled down to 1280x720 will look just how its supposed to at 1920x1080 you just need to be closer to the screen. But then make that fit on 7" and 720p scaled down. That's just waisting space on the nexus7. a 30 minute anime file at 720p is generally 250-350mb. Its 1080p counterpart is usually 700mb. And it will look the same on your tablet. The only difference will be based on source material. TV capture vs blu-ray rip.
Then there is compressors. H264 8bit, h264 10 bit, divx, xvid, wmv, mpeg2. This will also define how the video looks. H264 10bit is the current best compressor. You can have a h264 10bit compressed lower (in megabytes) then h264 8bit and it will look just as good as its higher filer size h264 8bit. But naturally they will compress it less to completely blow h264 8bit out the water.
None of this has anything to do with scaling. Scaling down you see less but still looks very clean, and clear. Scaling up makes for a sloppy mess. And lesser you compress the less of a mess it will look but it will not ever look as good as native or less. And scaling of actual screen you should never see a difference as long as resolution of screen isn't touch.
There are two meanings for scaling and 1 for compression. Scaling resolution, scaling actual TV. Compression is only for file size which determines the actual quality. Overly compress it will look horrible. There is no under compress. Scale up from files resolution will degrade any image.
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N7's resolution is 1280*800 and you should use 720p video as 1080p would just be a waste of space.

densetsu86 said:
Zippox your making a mistake. You are confusing scaling and compression. Compression determines files size, clarity (less pixels). Scaling which is done by your set top box, DVD/blu-ray player, computer, smart phone, tablet just makes it fit to screen or what ever size it needs to be. Will 1080p look better on nexus then a 720p that's a yes/no answer. It will depend on how much each file was compressed. Generally a 1080p file is compressed much less then a 720p. Why? Cause its resolution is too huge. Which means compression (blocks aka pixels, seeing weird shadow/dark areas move, blurry images) can be easily seen if its not done right. If you set a 1080p file and 720p file and compress them the same bit rate as the 1080 and view it on a 7" native 720p screen you will not notice a difference. Why one will be scaled down and the other will not be scaled at all. Clarity will be equal at that point. Now once that 720p file has to scale up then its defects will be shown regardless of actual screen size. And trust me you will never stream a 10gb file. You can download a 10gb file but you will never stream that. Those stream sites actually offer two completely different files. The streaming file is much more compressed. Why server load, then actual internet speeds. That would have too much strain on the server. This is why streaming is not an alternative to actually owning the file. And the digital download is not as good as its blu-ray medium.
But scaling and compression are not the same. And you were getting them confused. There is no point in a 1080p file for the nexus 7. Unless you have it 1" from your face and straining your eyes you will not see the difference if its encoded (compressed) properly. 1080p scaled down to 1280x720 will look just how its supposed to at 1920x1080 you just need to be closer to the screen. But then make that fit on 7" and 720p scaled down. That's just waisting space on the nexus7. a 30 minute anime file at 720p is generally 250-350mb. Its 1080p counterpart is usually 700mb. And it will look the same on your tablet. The only difference will be based on source material. TV capture vs blu-ray rip.
Then there is compressors. H264 8bit, h264 10 bit, divx, xvid, wmv, mpeg2. This will also define how the video looks. H264 10bit is the current best compressor. You can have a h264 10bit compressed lower (in megabytes) then h264 8bit and it will look just as good as its higher filer size h264 8bit. But naturally they will compress it less to completely blow h264 8bit out the water.
None of this has anything to do with scaling. Scaling down you see less but still looks very clean, and clear. Scaling up makes for a sloppy mess. And lesser you compress the less of a mess it will look but it will not ever look as good as native or less. And scaling of actual screen you should never see a difference as long as resolution of screen isn't touch.
There are two meanings for scaling and 1 for compression. Scaling resolution, scaling actual TV. Compression is only for file size which determines the actual quality. Overly compress it will look horrible. There is no under compress. Scale up from files resolution will degrade any image.
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Maybe I should have made it clearer. Compression and scaling are different yes. Compression is taking a file size that is large and compressing it into a smaller size to fit. So taking a 1080P picture and watching it on the nexus 7 will look great. SCALING that 1080P picture to fit a 720P picture will change its resolution so that a 1920x1080 will fit on a 1280x720 size screen. Clarity will always go down regardless. Unless you are upstaging in which case it depends on your source. ENCODING is taking that same picture and converting into a different codec say xvid to avi. How you encode that picture (bitrate, codec,resolution) will determine the output quality. So bottom line 1080P will look better than 720P. But that's why I said don't sweat it on the nexus 7 because the difference will be minor. On a last note I stream Blu-ray rips at 10gb-15gb from my PC to my xbox all the time but unless your internet has an extremely high upload you will get choppy playback. Again sorry if I wasn't clear.
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N7's resolution is 1280*800 and you should use 720p video as 1080p would just be a waste of space.
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That's pretty much what I was trying to say lol but i load my movies on a flash and use an otg so I never actually lose my space on my nexus 7
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Video Convert Settings in Hardbrake for Nexus 7

Hello,
I'm trying to create a good preset in Handbrake for Videos to play on my Nexus 7. Can anyone tell me if I would get better results settings the picture size to 1920 (width) or 1280 (width)?
I know the N7 has a resolution 1920 x 1200 but I want to keep the file sizes reasonable whilst retaining decent HD quality?
I'm guessing that if I were to use 1280 x 720 the video would then be stretched to fill the screen thus making the reduced file size pretty redundnt?

iamtherealmungo said:
I'm guessing that if I were to use 1280 x 720 the video would then be stretched to fill the screen thus making the reduced file size pretty redundnt?
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I'm not really following you here.
The screen is 16:10, which means most stuff will run with small to medium sized black bars on the top and bottom of the screen while held in landscape. Old 4:3 AR stuff will have black bars at the sides.
If I personally were to make a trip where I wanted to take a lot of videos and didn't have a lot of storage capacity, I'd resize them to be 720p. Unless I were to output them to a TV later on. 1080p on that screen size, I can't really see the difference.
But my advice to you: try it out. Make some 1080p and 720p encodes and then have someone start a video and you have to try and guess if it is 1080p or 720p. If you guess right 50% of the time, do 720p.

I do all my videos at 720p with Handbrake and they look great on the N7. There is a lot of information out there about encoding settings. It comes down to personal preference and the amount of time you're willing to spend encoding videos.

I do most of my conversions at 720p with handbrake. The settings I change are: 1280 width loose / h.264 .mp4, check large file size if input is > 5GB / 18fps/ aac faacp & ac3 passthru (no need for the two audio tracks unless you use an Apple TV which will only use the 1st track)
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iamtherealmungo said:
Hello,
I'm trying to create a good preset in Handbrake for Videos to play on my Nexus 7. Can anyone tell me if I would get better results settings the picture size to 1920 (width) or 1280 (width)?
I know the N7 has a resolution 1920 x 1200 but I want to keep the file sizes reasonable whilst retaining decent HD quality?
I'm guessing that if I were to use 1280 x 720 the video would then be stretched to fill the screen thus making the reduced file size pretty redundnt?
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On a screen this size you will be fine with 720. I have a 1080p projector and an 84" screen and I only notice a big difference with animated movies such as pixars or DreamWorks in 720 vs 1080.
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mertzi said:
On a screen this size you will be fine with 720. I have a 1080p projector and an 84" screen and I only notice a big difference with animated movies such as pixars or DreamWorks in 720 vs 1080.
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Agreed. Even on my 40" LCD TV, 720p is plenty. So it is certainly enough for a tablet.
The extra resolution on these things is more useful for text based applications IMO. Video is fine at 720p.