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Yes it's a shame that the globalized Google decided to sell N1 in USA and GB only...available in the rest of Europe in the spring...
Really I can't understand why after cloning iPhone customization (and not only...) Google decided also to clone the commercial strategy of the earliest Iphone 2G...Soon Apple realized that there were more iphone in Europe than in USA LOL!!!
Now how to get one in Italy? Who want to buy one for me...
THX in advance!
check e-bay...many on there for sale with worldwide shipping
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check e-bay...many on there for sale with worldwide shipping
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What about the activation button? Does anyone know if there is some kind of activation that binds the phone to the google account from where it is bought (or is this button only for the t-mobile phone)?
Is there anything else to consider before buying it (except the high price) from ebay and using it in Europe?
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Thanx for your answer.
I checked ebay and it would cost about 250$ over the real price. Really too much.
no, it only binds it to your google checkout account, not your gmail account.
so you will be able to activate it where you are
It may suck but different markets get different phones at different times. I don't know how many times I have seen a really cool phone only to discover that it will never hit the shores here in the US. This time it worked out that we got the phone.
I guess it comes down to you win some you loose some.
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It may suck but different markets get different phones at different times. I don't know how many times I have seen a really cool phone only to discover that it will never hit the shores here in the US. This time it worked out that we got the phone.
I guess it comes down to you win some you loose some.
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Yes maybe you are right...but not considering a whole market like europe...like italy, where people go on purcheasing technology also in a bad economic period, would be an error!
Let me get one first. Then I can get into shipping out of country. I own an IT business and I have create multiple google accounts under that and perhaps get 5 for each account I make up. I want to make sure the phone can be activated etc before I start ordering phones that may not work later (screwing me and screwing others).
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no, it only binds it to your google checkout account, not your gmail account.
so you will be able to activate it where you are
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That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
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Let me get one first. Then I can get into shipping out of country. I own an IT business and I have create multiple google accounts under that and perhaps get 5 for each account I make up. I want to make sure the phone can be activated etc before I start ordering phones that may not work later (screwing me and screwing others).
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You have a PM
Eggii said:
That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
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I'll let you know once I get the phone.
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That means you have to activate it with the same checkout acc that buys the phone or just that you have to activate it with an us, uk, .. account?
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I believe 'activation' refers only to if you are just starting a new wireless plan. if you already have a SIM card, it should work right away, I think. someone please correct me if I'm wrong
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Yeah, at the 150% price
I'm also in Italy at the moment and I have mine on the way only I don't know if my method would work for you. I'm stationed in Sicily for the time being and I used a site called shipitapo.com. Not sure if this site would work for you but I'm willing to bet there is something similar. As for the purchasing part I just went to google checkout and setup my account so all the information was already in the system, including shipping address and credit card. Then I had my brother who is in the states log into my google account and purchase it for me. He just had to click a couple of links and because everything was already setup. Now its on the way. hopefully you can find something similar. Might be able to use a US proxy to be able to log into you google account and purchase it.
@SpiersA
good idea! I should need a brother, and in usa! About shipitapo.com, it's because Google won't ship it abroad?
Well, according to the iPhone wiki there are 6.4 million iPhones (of 33 million total) in the US alone. Considering Google is an American company, and the App Marketplace had first purchasing support in the US as well, it makes sense to distribute a handset with this much probably popularity in the areas that are easier to support first. Not to mention they partnered with T-Mobile US (an existing partner) for subsidized handset sales and will likely get a huge bump in volume just from that alone.
I have to agree with the earlier comment about how often I've seen really nice phones only to have them never show up in the US (or after they've already become quite out of date). It's nice having top-tier phones start in the US first and then move out from here. A truly global launch with so many new moving parts at once (new hardware, new version of the OS that might not be fully localized yet, thousands of market apps that still don't work with the DROID, etc) would be a total nightmare and make no sense at all.
And yesss...I found how to place an order from all over the world. Just placed mine from Italy. It has been easy...I will reveal it ad soon as I get shipping confirmation!
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Yes it's a shame that the globalized Google decided to sell N1 in USA and GB only...available in the rest of Europe in the spring...
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It wasn't actually that bad looking back eh?
Hi quick question,
I just managed to sell my htc hd2 for £390 so am about to order my nexus one! (im in the UK) other UK buyers can you tell me how much its all coming to roughly, i understand its about £340 on the credit card from google then probably about another £60 from DHL once they invoice you?
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
What i was mainly concerned with was that I did hear this may effect gps/maps and sat nav for uk users and that we may not be able to use turn by turn in uk? This may not be true, its just something i remmber reading on another forum?
any thoughts would be appreciated
cheers
Well I believe the UK Nexus will have multi-touch.
I have my Nexus already running Google Nav as it works as per the old method for Hero/Dream.
It depends if you're planning on rooting it or not, if you are then you'll be putting a custom ROM on anyway, which will probably have multi-touch..etc (Cyan is already working on it).
Also the UK will more than likely have a T-mobile brading...etc.
Your Choice.
I have had my DHL bill as yet but it was a tad shy of £355 I think (depends on the exchange rate at the time).
yeah i think by all sounds rooting seems to be the way to go once peeps have had time to iron it out. havent had android phone before but like all i hear, i had the htc hd2 for about 4 hours before i was convinced winmo was a pile of ****! i think i may take the plunge and go for it -my GF keeps saying why dont i just get an Iphone! i think i need this phone to show her why!
If the euro Nexus does have multitouch there's nothing to stop Google updating those US phones sold to UK users - the hardware will be identical.
How do I test multi touch as I thought Eclair supports it out the box? I tried multi touch paint from market and it seems to work fine.
Use Dolphin Browser, this supports multitouch.
We KNOW the phones support it, its just Google couldn't release to US handsets for some reason to do with Apple and copyright??? not entirely sure.
The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
You will need to install a custom version of Maps for Google Maps Navigation to work outside the US. Keep in mind there are some limitations. Search for the thread in the Dream Android Development forum to read how to install and what the limitations are.
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The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
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Exactly what I thought. I prefer the double tap
There is, afaik, no "UK Nexus" and "US Nexus".
They're the same.
If the preinstalled apps in the version sold to US citizens don't have multitouch, the ones sold to Brits won't either.
Same hardware and software, only if you're having it sent to UK, you get the option of getting an adapter for you charger separately.
It's explained on the official support page, which I'm not allowed to link to.
Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!
John Cipolletti said:
Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!
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The Neuxs One is a phone made for the whole world, so importing it will not result in problems with coverage as it supports the mostly used 3g bands around the world.
Also noone is importing the Nexus One to the UK since Google is specifically targetting UK residents and must of course provide customer service to them.
As for other countries which google is not really selling the phone to I don't know, but I assume that the warranty is world wide and you should not have trouble returning it.
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Hi quick question,
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
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I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
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I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.
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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.
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Really? How did it update these apps exactly? I had no 3g/edge/gprs or wifi when I set up. Are you suggesting that OTB there are multiple app versions? Are you saying that if you happend to be in the US and used a UK sim you'd get UK apps? I doubt that very very much, particularly as a SIM is not even required to setup.
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Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
TA DA
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Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
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LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
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LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
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ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed
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ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed
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I'm also guessing that it didn;t to the laser etching as i signed in to gmail.
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I take it there's still no confirmation as to whether it will be available sim-free from an EU webstore when it is offered on Vodafone? In fact, unless things change, when it is subsidised by VF, it may be a case of signing up to a vodafone contract on google.com and still importing the handset. If there is some sort of google.co.uk offering, then presumably the price will reflect the VAT element.
i got one from ebay 470 free shipping..
Works fine so far, how do i get the maps working? whats the old hero method? Ive never had an hero lol
I'll keep this really short
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_7_8GB?id=nexus_7_8gb&hl=en
Im from India and clicking on the above link gives the error
"Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible.
Please check back again soon."
As expected since im from India
The Nexus 4 has launched and will bew going on sale for $350 for the Unlocked 16GB version of the phone
What i intend on doing is order the phone off the Play Store for my Dad who is based in US so that he can then ship it to India
He is always busy at work so is there any work around on how i can make that link useable in India to the order it
Proxy maybe ?
Oh and payment for Device can be done without a Paypal ? As my dad should have a Credit card
Thanks for the help
I was thinking of using a Proxy, but is it safe for shopping ??
Oh and can someone please explain to me the means to order it, Credit card/google wallet/ payapal ?
I wouldn't order some anything with a credit card over a proxy, they're insecure.
Sorry, there really is no other way. Until and unless Google opens up the Play store and sells the Nexus in India, you cannot go through the checkout process from India. The billing and shipping address are required to be the same, in which case it needs to be based in the US.
Damn :/
Thing is i only need to do the browsing
AS iwill be using my dads credit card or any other means of payment
All i need to know is payment options
Thanks
Just have your dad set up teamviewer and send you his passcode ( 1 minute of less ).
Then when he is away from the pc for more than 5 minutes you can browse google play website and order using your dad pc through your pc with the help of teamviewer.
Ohk so you want your dad to send it to you.
What you can do is give him this link http://www.google.com/nexus/4/
and tell him to press "SHOP NOW"
hope that solved your problem
ill do the team view thing
Will a VISA Credit/ Debit card work ? Or do i need google wallet ?
Credit card must work.
Your are going to use a USA card.
The card's location of issue must be the same as the addressing location. Not sure how exactly it works or if there are any work arounds.
Use Google.com
The specs are amazing and i just love Android.Unfortunately for reasons unknown Google is not so keen on launching their Nexus phones in India . It was true for the Galaxy Nexus and i don't think that Google has any plans of launching this one in India. My brother who stays in US will be coming home for Christmas and i will ask him to get the 16 GB version which will cost just 18,500 INR (approx)...... that's almost the price i had paid to get my Motorola Defy a year ago .Are there any limitations of using this phone in India...i read somewhere that the phone will have a built in battery ? is that true ? If yes....is it possible to change the battery if i have any issues with the existing one or once the stock battery dies out.
Regardless of area availability, you linked to a discontinued product . They aren't selling the 8GB version anywhere anymore
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The specs are amazing and i just love Android.Unfortunately for reasons unknown Google is not so keen on launching their Nexus phones in India . It was true for the Galaxy Nexus and i don't think that Google has any plans of launching this one in India. My brother who stays in US will be coming home for Christmas and i will ask him to get the 16 GB version which will cost just 18,500 INR (approx)...... that's almost the price i had paid to get my Motorola Defy a year ago .Are there any limitations of using this phone in India...i read somewhere that the phone will have a built in battery ? is that true ? If yes....is it possible to change the battery if i have any issues with the existing one or once the stock battery dies out.
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We will not know until someone gets their hands on the phone and does a tear down of it.
@southpaw said:
The specs are amazing and i just love Android.Unfortunately for reasons unknown Google is not so keen on launching their Nexus phones in India . It was true for the Galaxy Nexus and i don't think that Google has any plans of launching this one in India. My brother who stays in US will be coming home for Christmas and i will ask him to get the 16 GB version which will cost just 18,500 INR (approx)...... that's almost the price i had paid to get my Motorola Defy a year ago .Are there any limitations of using this phone in India...i read somewhere that the phone will have a built in battery ? is that true ? If yes....is it possible to change the battery if i have any issues with the existing one or once the stock battery dies out.
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You are totally wrong. LG has an official statement released that they will be very much launching a NX4 in India. Heck even Google said it is coming to 200 countries. So no way they have missed India.
I too am from India and am desperately waiting for it to show up on the Play Store.
It will only be available from Google in the US, UK, Canada, Germany, France, Spain and Australia.
All other places will have to buy it through local retailers/phone providers, where it will probably be significantly more expensive.
FISKER_Q said:
It will only be available from Google in the US, UK, Canada, Germany, France, Spain and Australia.
All other places will have to buy it through local retailers/phone providers, where it will probably be significantly more expensive.
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Hmmm..that was my fear. But I'm gonna try to get it from the US...
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How fast will the N4 be on amazon!?
I am in Costa Rica, i cannot buy from play store either. I need an US bank account.
I am sitting on my laptop watching the moment to hit that buy now button! :victory:
Nexus 4 micro sd???
Hi guys, i didnt see it anywhere, but will the nexus 4 have the micro sd memory option ? tnx, i"m getting one anyways...
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Hi guys, i didnt see it anywhere, but will the nexus 4 have the micro sd memory option ? tnx, i"m getting one anyways...
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No microsd.
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oh well...
Oh well then, i must get the 16 gb version is there a way maybe to get it as soon as possible even if your not in usa, because im in Slovenia...
say thanks to spotflux guys
use Spotflux, (www[dot]spotflux[dot]com) a free and safe vpn service.
u will be able to use your internet as if you are in america. thats it. keep simple.
Hi everybody
As we know, the new Nexus 4 will be available on Play Store only in: U.S., U.K., Australia, France, Germany, Spain and Canada.
It also seems almost sure that in all the other countries It will cost much more, for example while in France It will cost 350€ (on Play Store), in Italy It will probably cost 549€!
I'm from Italy, and obviously I don't wanna pay 549€ if I could spend less!
So, how could we get it from abroad?
The main issue is that Play Store only ships in the state where they sell the phone, so I can't directly go on Play Store UK and buy it.
To solve this problem I thought to use a service like forward2me which gives you an UK address to be able to buy the phone, and then they ship the phone to you. The cost is about 32€ for Italy, and 382€ is still a great price for me
There's also USABox, which does the same, but from U.S.
Another problem is that you can't even visit another Play Store if you're not in that state, to solve this we could use Ultrasurf, which is a free proxy-based tool that allow us to vist other Play Store(s).
The last problem is: some people told me that they only accept credit cards that come from that country, so If I would buy It from UK, I'd need a UK credit card. Is this true? And If yes, do you know any possible way to bypass this problem?
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
i want this phone so bad, damn google play store
Maybe try to access in Play Store France with Proxy or VPN. (I don't know really). Search on Google
But, i think Order will be available in others countries later.
You didn't even read my thread, did you?
Yes, you can access differnet country's play store thru VPN. Not sure how to buy though.
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You didn't even read my thread, did you?
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Same mistake for me too.
Can you use Google wallet? From my previous experience, even you have a UK card, the diffrent address from the billing address will be a problem(Not play store though, some other B2C site).
Order from here
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/8177/lg-google-nexus-4--16gb--sim-free-unlocked-
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...Again?
In order to buy from the UK Play Store you need an UK credit card. Just the shipping address isn't enough. And this is not bypassable, sorry.
I'm Italian too, I hate this damned country! We can't buy from Playstore through proxy because it need you have a credit card in the country you are buying..
1) A supported country credit card is needed
2) a Proxy is not a good idea, as sensitive data is transmitted through it for someone to see
3) The actual product may be delivered to the proxies address
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Order from here
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/8177/lg-google-nexus-4--16gb--sim-free-unlocked-
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334GBP is a lot, better than 550Euros, but it's always 420 euro (+ delivery).
Wish to find a better price
Roman91 said:
334GBP is a lot, better than 550Euros, but it's always 420 euro (+ delivery).
Wish to find a better price
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Me too.. Any idea? I read Amazon sells it for more than 500euro
Try borderlinx
http://www.borderlinx.com
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Everyone is saying that u need a credit card to buy from play store, how come u can't use a debit card??
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Seems a lot of people are missing the OP's point. He is saying that you need an UK issued credit or debit card.
And to solve this problem for the OP, here in the UK we have what is called a "pre-pay credit card". If you can get someone to get you one in the UK (they sell them at post offices etc) then you should be able to complete the purchase on Google Play UK. But then again if can manage to find someone you are willing to trust £279 you might as well ask them to buy it for you and send it to you in Italy.
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I am also in the same situation like you. I live in The Netherlands and no chance to buy it from Google Store.
I am also curious if you can pay it with a credit card from another country. I know some people in Germany where the phone could be delivered and I could pick it up but the main question is about the payment method.
Do you trust services like forward2me? They are reliable? I never heard of them.
I hope somebody could give us more informations and we could get our devices as soon as possible. I can't wait to have it!
My plan:
Use a proxy from the states and hoping that Citibank Credit card, even issued in y country is not a problem, (I can use it to buy from PlayStore when I am connected through a VPN).
Backup Plan:
Shipito offers "Assisted Purchase". I let them buy for me, even it's 17 USD more, and then ship to here.
Plan C:
Order it from Amazon when available
Plan D:
Wait until it available in my country (that's the final plan)
I bought apps from Play Store in The Netherlands using a foreign credit card and it worked without problems. I didn't had to use any proxy or VPN. I am still not sure if it will work with devices. It's really frustrating that Google doesn't extend their play store services.
AshleyT said:
So, how could we get it from abroad?
The main issue is that Play Store only ships in the state where they sell the phone, so I can't directly go on Play Store UK and buy it.
To solve this problem I thought to use a service like forward2me which gives you an UK address to be able to buy the phone, and then they ship the phone to you. The cost is about 32€ for Italy, and 382€ is still a great price for me
There's also USABox, which does the same, but from U.S.
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I dont think you can have them shipped to PO Boxes and such but I could be wrong.
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2411789&topic=2451685&ctx=topic#GB
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The last problem is: some people told me that they only accept credit cards that come from that country, so If I would buy It from UK, I'd need a UK credit card. Is this true? And If yes, do you know any possible way to bypass this problem?
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
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This is a problem for me also
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2411816&topic=2451685&ctx=topic
OT - Warranty
Hey, I know this might be OT
But thought to post it anyway since I saw a discussion about it here somewhere before.
The warranty issue according to EU:
... and as I dont have the permission to post links yet search:
"EU - FAQS for shopping in other countries - Your Europe"
Shippingg
I think you need to BUY it from amazon or whatever. I don't think It's possible buying it from another countrys Play Store since you probably need a U.S or U.K creditcard depending on where you want to buy it from. My advice is to wait til the price drops or just buy it from another country (not via Play Store). this seems very easily thought of but yeah I think this is the only solution. I myself am currently waiting for the Netherlands release, my predictions are that the phone will be sold unlocked for 350eu if not more. If you really want to buy it from Play Store than I don't really know what you'll have to do but good luck.
Hi looking at all the posts about Knox it's making me wonder if we can use cracked apps on the note 3 if someone can help me out that would be great also does Knox have to be installed because it just sounds like more problems than being helpful??
yes you can. Knox is like a safe, if you take pictures or use any Knox apps in Knox mode they stay in knox . if you come out of Knox mode you cannot view them.
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Jmoney707 said:
Hi looking at all the posts about Knox it's making me wonder if we can use cracked apps on the note 3 if someone can help me out that would be great also does Knox have to be installed because it just sounds like more problems than being helpful??
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No discussion about warez and cracked apps allowed.
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Sorry about that will do thank you
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I may be wrong, but he might be talking about modified apps (such as how a google wallet app was needed on non-supported phones), not illegal stuff.
I hate when someone won't pay the (few) dollar(s) to get an app, but will buy an expensive phone. Support developers a**hole
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Ya, especially with a username like Jmoney. Wth.
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mircury said:
Ya, especially with a username like Jmoney. Wth.
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Probably some kid and his dad won't let him use his credit card.
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can we not use this as a basher thread?
What is done is done.
I hate when someone won't pay the (few) dollar(s) to get an app, but will buy an expensive phone.
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I am not willing to pay anything before I know that the software will be bugfree and usable. It's kinda stupid to buy dozens of programs which are not working at all. And fifteen minutes payback is quite a little time to see if the program is what you think it would be. And even if it's only few euros, .. if you are forced to many.. that will be quite a lot of money.
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I am not willing to pay anything before I know that the software will be bugfree and usable. It's kinda stupid to buy dozens of programs which are not working at all. And fifteen minutes payback is quite a little time to see if the program is what you think it would be. And even if it's only few euros, .. if you are forced to many.. that will be quite a lot of money.
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That's why there's a refund period. And most developers extend that period beyond what the play store gives.
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Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
ShadowLea said:
Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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Everyone is an individual. I would agree that more open mindedness is necessary.
ShadowLea said:
Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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I use my debit card with Google Wallet without issue.
ShadowLea said:
Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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A lot of Americans use debit cards on the Play Store just fine. How? Most any debit card attached to a bank account can also be run as a credit card. We call them "check cards" when they have a credit card company logo and can be run as either. The difference? Running as credit has no terminal fee or minimum purchase (as part of the credit card merchant's agreement), does not require a PIN, works in more places, but often requires a signature, withdraws from your bank/checking account (no credit line), and does not have the same consumer protections (harder to get your money back if stolen or misused). Also, many places only take one payment type or the other (credit or debit) so a check card conveniently works at both.
Most anyone with a bank account can get a check card even if they don't qualify for credit. Is it really so different there?
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I use my debit card with Google Wallet without issue.
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I tried that, no such luck. Our cards only have the account number (9 digits), card number(3 digits) and nothing else. I HAVE no number to fill in to Google Wallet.
Tried using my phone plan, but it asks for a CreditCard Number. Which I don't have. (Hah, good luck getting T-Mobile to issue me a Credit Card. :laugh
CZroe said:
A lot of Americans use debit cards on the Play Store just fine. How? Most any debit card attached to a bank account can also be run as a credit card. We call them "check cards" when they have a credit card company logo and can be run as either. The difference? Running as credit has no terminal fee or minimum purchase (as part of the credit card merchant's agreement), does not require a PIN, works in more places, but often requires a signature, withdraws from your bank/checking account (no credit line), and does not have the same consumer protections (harder to get your money back if stolen or misused). Also, many places only take one payment type or the other (credit or debit) so a check card conveniently works at both.
Most anyone with a bank account can get a check card even if they don't qualify for credit. Is it really so different there?
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That would be very useful. But no, we don't have those. I'm not sure our banks even know of the concept.
We have a Debit card with a 4 digit pin. This is direct withdraw. Maestro, it's called.
For Credit Cards we need to get an additional, paid service (50 bucks a year, I believe. and that's just for the registration, you also need to pay for the card.) with Visa, MasterCard or similar, detached services. They're not directly part of the bankservice.
For instance, I have an account with ABN AMRO. If I wanted to get a credit card, I'd have to apply to VISA or ABN Gold (which then gets me a VISA card. This type of account you can only get if you have a balance of over 50.000 on the account. Which'll never happen. I'm a graphic designer.)
You can't actually pay with a credit card in the shops here. Well, you can, but doing so requires filling out a (paper!)cheque, 25 Euro administration fee and a transaction time of a week. In every shop. For every purchase. And even then 80% of the shops refuse it as a method of payment.
The advantage is that if we ever loose our card (or accidentally put the bill unshredded in the paper bin), people can't empty our accounts without the pin number; with a credit card only the cardnumber is sufficient for payment. (The security code is on the back of a credit card...)
That said, I do have a Prepaid 3V VISA card (It's an alarming shade of pink and can only be charged (pre-charged, it works like a prepaid SIM) up to a specific amount per month, but for Google Play it works well enough. Renting a car, however, has to be done over the course of 4 months.) For the apps I do consider worth the payment. (Apex, Tapatalk, Moonreader, etc.)
ShadowLea said:
I tried that, no such luck. Our cards only have the account number (9 digits), card number(3 digits) and nothing else. I HAVE no number to fill in to Google Wallet.
Tried using my phone plan, but it asks for a CreditCard Number. Which I don't have. (Hah, good luck getting T-Mobile to issue me a Credit Card. :laugh
That would be very useful. But no, we don't have those. I'm not sure our banks even know of the concept.
We have a Debit card with a 4 digit pin. This is direct withdraw. Maestro, it's called.
For Credit Cards we need to get an additional, paid service (50 bucks a year, I believe. and that's just for the registration, you also need to pay for the card.) with Visa, MasterCard or similar, detached services. They're not directly part of the bankservice.
For instance, I have an account with ABN AMRO. If I wanted to get a credit card, I'd have to apply to VISA or ABN Gold (which then gets me a VISA card. This type of account you can only get if you have a balance of over 50.000 on the account. Which'll never happen. I'm a graphic designer.)
You can't actually pay with a credit card in the shops here. Well, you can, but doing so requires filling out a (paper!)cheque, 25 Euro administration fee and a transaction time of a week. In every shop. For every purchase. And even then 80% of the shops refuse it as a method of payment.
The advantage is that if we ever loose our card (or accidentally put the bill unshredded in the paper bin), people can't empty our accounts without the pin number; with a credit card only the cardnumber is sufficient for payment. (The security code is on the back of a credit card...)
That said, I do have a Prepaid 3V VISA card (It's an alarming shade of pink and can only be charged (pre-charged, it works like a prepaid SIM) up to a specific amount per month, but for Google Play it works well enough. Renting a car, however, has to be done over the course of 4 months.) For the apps I do consider worth the payment. (Apex, Tapatalk, Moonreader, etc.)
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Switch banks. All debit cards have a 16 digit card number.
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BACARDILIMON said:
Switch banks. All debit cards have a 16 digit card number.
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Not in Europe, they don't.
Our cardnumber isn't the same as the one they use in the US. It's literally just the number of the card, so when you open an account, you always get 001.
It's not personalized.
Open the account, you get:
Account 112234567, Card 001.
Get a new one card after it expires, is lost or stolen, it's:
Account 112234567, Card 002.
Payment over the internet is done via iDeal or a similar service, which requires a cardreader and works withdynamic codes.
ShadowLea said:
Not in Europe, they don't.
Our cardnumber isn't the same as the one they use in the US. It's literally just the number of the card, so when you open an account, you always get 001.
It's not personalized.
Open the account, you get:
Account 112234567, Card 001.
Get a new one card after it expires, is lost or stolen, it's:
Account 112234567, Card 002.
Payment over the internet is done via iDeal or a similar service, which requires a cardreader and works withdynamic codes.
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I see. Hmmm good luck with that one.
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BACARDILIMON said:
I see. Hmmm good luck with that one.
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Thanks. Found a workaround (prepaid card), but it's not ideal. (refund costs 10 bucks per refund. Not exactly oleasant for a 0.70 cent app... :laugh
For now we'll just have to wait for Google to get their heads out of their arses, stop moaning about piracy and start realize what the cause of it is. Until then 750 million people will just have to keep cracking.