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Hi,
I'm very happy with my universal (wifi and vga in pocketsize) only one thing is driving me crazy.
every, say once in 10 times the universal won't start when I press the power button. (after it turning off automatically after a few minutes when on battery power). Worse yet, it doesn't accept phonecalls and smses anymore either..so it already crashed silently. Unfortunately you can't see this from the outside since the lights still flash. I only notice it crashed when trying to start the device.
I've updated to wm6 because I thought it was a wm5 issue, but it wouldn't help. I also updated to radio 1.13 (the orange radio stack as found on this site). But this too, didn't fix it.
does anybody else have the same problem?? This problem renders my whole device unuseful. =^(
thanks!
Reinier
Welcome to the club...looks like no solution on this one yet. Here is a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272938
Some say it might be incompatibility with the SD card, but not in my case.
Hi,
that doesn't sound too good.
Anyhow, I'll experiment with it some more (what else can one do?) to see what is making it crash more or less (wifi/sdcard/simcard/battery?)
I'll post my findings... maybe we can find some mutual thing which might be causing it
I doubt it is software related since my whole machine is wiped clean and has nothing on it
R
yes, me too...and it seems to get worst as time goes by...anyways, I suggest that if you have any warranty left to send it back for warranty. GOodluck!
thats a pretty good point... ;^)
I'll check.
too bad it's quite vague description:
yes, sometimes it doesn't powerup..
you can already see the technicians there... they try it 4 times, it works everytime (of course) , and they send it back with a sticker saying 'correct'
ah well.... lets not get ahead of time.
r
Solutn found...check your PM
Check battery charge level
hi, i didn´t experienced that problem, but when i start up my device, sometimes, the start-up is really slow and the screen gets white but finally, i mena 2 or 3 seconds´ time it becomes normal.
Is that what experienced?
clemsyn said:
Solutn found...check your PM
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What do u mean with PM?
DId u get the solution?
See ya folks
Solution
Check you PM means check ur private messages
A fellow here with the same problems sent his device for repair and the problem was voltage control unit of mainboard
Solution:
1. Install Pocket Hack Master and go to settings and disable the CPU scaling of the device. Then set it to start at startup. Then clock your device at 312 mhz before turning off the device or closing the clamshell. You can always clock it to 520 while using cpu intensive applications. Just make sure to set it at 312 before turning it off.
thank you buddy
Jumanji1212
Did it also work for you? I forgot to add that I am also using an external charger specifically for Universal because Im afraid charging it via miniusb might mess up the voltage control unit more.
Well, i normally charge it with the ac/dc adaptor but not always. Since i deleted spb diary today plug-in and installed the latest qtek spanish rom and radio, the time of the white-screen shorten.
clemsyn said:
Check you PM means check ur private messages
A fellow here with the same problems sent his device for repair and the problem was voltage control unit of mainboard
Solution:
1. Install Pocket Hack Master and go to settings and disable the CPU scaling of the device. Then set it to start at startup. Then clock your device at 312 mhz before turning off the device or closing the clamshell. You can always clock it to 520 while using cpu intensive applications. Just make sure to set it at 312 before turning it off.
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Hello, I have the same problem (Power button does not start after an auto sleep).
My qtek 9000 however gives a blank screen when playing with the PHM speed tests. (When it is plugged in it works.)
Now I am a little afraid to do the "set it to start at startup"
Is there no risk it will never startup anymore?
Can I do this (temporaly) just for testing without the auto startup option?
So: disable CPU scaling and set the speed on 312 and put it in sleep mode.
I need my Qtek so badly that I get horribly stressed with this kind of things.
Huib
thanks for helps
thanks for helps
thanks for helps
freemanquna said:
do any one know which radio is stable and consume less energy?
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I'll leave it to others to give advice on which radio to use. It might be worth installing danielherrero's (one of our own developers) bandswitch application http://www.commmgrpro.com/ You could use this to limit phone to certain bands only with an easy interface. Would allow you to check out exactly what is causing the drain on battery.
Mike
thanks for helps
Sorry, got me stumped. So with no radios on the consumption is double that when wifi is on!!
Let's see if anyone else has any suggestions.
Mike
infinite loop perhaps??
What ROM/Radio versions are you running? EDIT:: seen the ROMs, perhaps try updating to a newer dopod ROM??
Also what 3rd party apps have you got installed??
(RESCO was a ***** for doing this to my TyTN)
the exact same thing happens to me. i've charged it completely, it obviously got really hot. usually at this point, i would take out the battery and let it cool off before turning the phone on, otherwise it would get even hotter and eat 300+ mA and drain the battery fast. this time i opened the wi-fi connection and immediately the battery status dropped from 332 mA to 130, and stayed down there. the phone even cooled down a bit. after i've turned off the wi-fi, it started draining and heating again. what can i do? is it a software or hardware problem? i'm using schaps 4.31, 1.47.30.10, have google maps, palringo, opera, tcpmp installed
I have the same behavior, too.
But not yesterday evening. After restarted it for the xxx time it staid at 28mA. This was so until I left the train in the morning. It went up to 347mA and I am not able to get it back to 28.
I am using the default HTC ROM "HTC_TyTN_GER_3.54.257.2_103_6275_1.47.00.10_108".
I also tried several other ROMS (Schaps, Pays ...) and different radio versions as "HERM_Radinly_1.16.00.00_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.00.00_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.00.10_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.30.10_CustomRUU" and "HERM_Radinly_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU"
but none of them helped me out.
I also done the Exchange Server trick, deactivated 3G and even deactivated all GPRS or EDGE possibilities from provider side.
demichef
Phone gets hot
Hi,
I am not an expert but I had the same problem with my phone, I solved the problem by moving some software I had on my storage card to the internal memory, (in my case it was the encryption and additional language support software I had)
Another way is to look for the Power management tweak in this forum which helps to manage your storage cards power draining,
Sound strange but it worked for me.
Good luck
Hi,
the new battery has arrived.
There is no change in battery draining
What I recognized is, that if the battery is "cold" the power consumtion is around 28mA. But after a call it is getting warm and uses 10 time so much of power.
Please don't laugh now:
I put the battery inside my freezer for 5 minutes. Put it back inside the mobile ...
... 28mA.
If I keep it cold it stays fine for 3 days.
There must be any solution on that.
demichef
Roughly 50% of the time when I suspend (sleep, via the Shift's power slider switch) Vista it fails - the screen goes off but then comes on again with Windows rebooting from scratch. I can't find an obvious pattern to it yet. My Vista install is standard, just updated with Windows Update patches (not SP1). Anybody else seen this yet? Any ideas for a solution please?
Thanks,
Andy
I haven't been able to duplicate this problem - I have the power switch set to hibernate, but I do sometimes use standy via the keyboard shortcut.
It always works fine for me.
normaly it's an application running on vista, Outlook 2007 is a real pain regarding this issue.
try to close all applications and see if the problem is still there, if not find out what app. it is by closing one at the time (antivirus etc.)
I have the same problem. I even reinstalled Vista to be sure it was not caused by some software I installed but it's still the same. The problem occurs when I try to enter sleep or hibernate mode.
same here. I havent found a pattern too...... I am running vista sp1. And some times when I resume I see the window you see after bad shutdown, this is, "press x to safe mode, press y to safe mode with network, ", etc
No doubt I'm speaking too soon, but since installing Vista SP1 today I haven't had the suspend problem.
Same issue here.. It thought it had something to do with the hybrid sleep I enabled. Disabling didn't solve it.
Windows reboots and tells it has recovered from a unexpected error, and you can click to determine what caused the reboot. Windows then analyses that the issue has been caused by 'Vista' made by 'Microsoft'.
So I think it's a bug in Vista not fixed in SP1. It's actually very anoying because I like hybernating my device to spare battery.
infraskill said:
Same issue here.. It thought it had something to do with the hybrid sleep I enabled. Disabling didn't solve it.
Windows reboots and tells it has recovered from a unexpected error, and you can click to determine what caused the reboot. Windows then analyses that the issue has been caused by 'Vista' made by 'Microsoft'.
So I think it's a bug in Vista not fixed in SP1. It's actually very anoying because I like hybernating my device to spare battery.
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This is really becoming very annoying especially because of the short battery life. Sleep and hibernation mode are the only ways to survive a working day on 2 batteries. If I leave Vista on while I'm working in WM6 then Vista crashes after 10 to 15 minutes 2 out of 3 times. We need to find a solution for this problem the sooner the better or I will have to return to my Everun with an extended battery that works for more than 7 hours on one charge.
I don't mean to rub it in, but I'm not having any of these problems. Sleep, hibernate, using WinMo for hours while Vista is running, all working fine.
I've not installed SP1 yet, or the graphics driver update that windows update offered me - don't know if that's relevant.
I haven't installed the graphics driver either so I don't think it's that. I'd love to know what though, I've tried endlessly to find a pattern. It can do it with no applications running just as likely as if I have a few running. Also it is now happening again with SP1. It can happen after a completely clean reboot too - i.e. Vista boots, I log on and try and suspend, and it barfs.
And not mention the HTC Control panel now crashes after SP1 and I found out that the audio out driver is gone after SP1.
I find all of this rather dissapointing it's almost a virgin Vista installation. I have not tweaked it or did strange things to it.
I'm going to reinstall it see if that sets me back to a working installation.
infraskill said:
And not mention the HTC Control panel now crashes after SP1 and I found out that the audio out driver is gone after SP1.
I find all of this rather dissapointing it's almost a virgin Vista installation. I have not tweaked it or did strange things to it.
I'm going to reinstall it see if that sets me back to a working installation.
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I didn't have these problems.
Out of the box I made a ghost image and then I installed SP1 directly after that.
Sound is perfect, HTC control panel works perfect. No problem with SP1. It's even beter with it (faster. I installed a shift for a customer and I compared the SP1 with the non SP1, so I know where I'm talking about )
I've now restored Vista from the recovery partition and, so far at least, I've had no problems with suspend or hibernate.
Sort it out
I solved all my suspend problems by restoring to VISTA...
Then cancelling the origami install on first boot.
Then installed SP1 before doing anything else.
This seemed to have sorted out the problems.
Blitz
blitzspear said:
I solved all my suspend problems by restoring to VISTA...
Then cancelling the origami install on first boot.
Then installed SP1 before doing anything else.
This seemed to have sorted out the problems.
Blitz
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So you think it's Origami that's causing the problems?
Hi,
I had no hibernate problems with my shift also none after SP1.
I did have to reinstall Shagctr (vista commanager) and that fixed the sound too.
Also I removerd Origami after my second boot. It is useless anyway...
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
No hibernate problems on loader or using "balanced"?
Now, first: I am not a technical guy like you guys but ...
--I have the idea that it always hibernates and resumes correctly when on the battery charger.
On battery only:
--That it hibernates/resumes correctly when setting the battery powerplan to "balanced"
--That it always hibernates wrong when the powerplan is set to "power saver"
So somewhere the Power Saver settings are causing the problem?
I will keep testing. It's a boaring Easter anyway.
PLs could you guys check if that is also the case in your situtation?
Huib
herpi said:
Now, first: I am not a technical guy like you guys but ...
--I have the idea that it always hibernates and resumes correctly when on the battery charger.
On battery only:
--That it hibernates/resumes correctly when setting the battery powerplan to "balanced"
--That it always hibernates wrong when the powerplan is set to "power saver"
So somewhere the Power Saver settings are causing the problem?
I will keep testing. It's a boaring Easter anyway.
PLs could you guys check if that is also the case in your situtation?
Huib
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can you check with the advanced settings of the power saver mode to see which one leads to the issue?
herpi said:
Now, first: I am not a technical guy like you guys but ...
--I have the idea that it always hibernates and resumes correctly when on the battery charger.
On battery only:
--That it hibernates/resumes correctly when setting the battery powerplan to "balanced"
--That it always hibernates wrong when the powerplan is set to "power saver"
So somewhere the Power Saver settings are causing the problem?
I will keep testing. It's a boaring Easter anyway.
PLs could you guys check if that is also the case in your situtation?
Huib
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I think this could be the cause. I changed the powerplan from 'power saver' to 'balanced' this morning. Since then I didn't have any problems putting my Shift in sleep or hibernate mode. I will continue testing it and keep you informed. But there is hope ...
sonietje said:
I think this could be the cause. I changed the powerplan from 'power saver' to 'balanced' this morning. Since then I didn't have any problems putting my Shift in sleep or hibernate mode. I will continue testing it and keep you informed. But there is hope ...
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look at the advanced settings in both mode to see what is different please,
it could help us to see what can lead to an issue and what won't.
Hi all,
Since i install Tomtom7 , i met a new problem : it shutdown itself after 20 min , sometimes 1h or 2h .... and i have to do a soft reset to retrieve a valid gps signal
only radar were added , tested with 4800 bauds and 115200
tested on two different roms (WM6.1)
never see such problem with tomtom6
am i alone with this case ?
thankx
out of memory
i think because the pda runs out of memory (RAM)
Otherway you can try is to re-install... (maybe one of the files is corrupted until when you run it use that section.
Fingers crossed
i already thought to this but not , last time i checked the amount of memory and it has a lot of free
extenue said:
i already thought to this but not , last time i checked the amount of memory and it has a lot of free
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Not sure what the problem could be....I can run mine for as long as I like and it is fine.....as long as I have it on the active holder (being charged).
What is your battery like? Icould have something to do with excessive drain on a suspect battery.
the problem occurs also at home when plugged on the AC ...
after trying a third ROM , no more shutdown of Tomtom
Hi friends.
I found the following coincedence.
When I install new build aparently CurrentWindget shows 60mA in stand by and no way to fix it to 5-7mA as it should be.
The solution which helps me to fix it is the following:
- enable GPS module in settings
- open Maps and wait for it to find where you are located
- go back to homescreen and put phone to stand by
It should be fixed now to 5-7mA current.
Hope it will help everyone.
I can even leave GPS module on all the time after that - standby current stays at 5-7mA level.
hlvl said:
I can even leave GPS module on all the time after that - standby current stays at 5-7mA level.
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Very strange, but very cool if it works for you! I will give it a shot next time I see high battery drain. Thanks for sharing, it will help at least one other person if it helps you.
I've also found that switching Bluetooth off, then back on again, fixes this 60mA drain !
Common misconception: leaving GPS enabled in settings doesn't leave the GPS chip on the whole time. It just means that an app can enable it when it needs to (e.g. when you open Maps). As long as there's no GPS icon in your status bar, it doesn't drain *any* battery.
OT: that trick would be way faster than rebooting! Gonna try if it works for me too.
Really strange solution for this issue. I have the same problem but for this moment have drain about 5mA after quick boot with dualbootloader (wait time 3sec for Android load). For this moment 5mA in standby mode - with any enabled comm modules (WiFi,Bluetooth,GPS).
My experince of fixing the problem(temporary) is not using taskkiller too often, but it not always works
Curarpikt said:
My experince of fixing the problem(temporary) is not using taskkiller too often, but it not always works
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Don't ever use your task killer again, it only causes problems.
Tried the above however no sucess..........please check out my post and tell me what you think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857606&highlight=battery+wifi
I'm getting better battery life with wifi on
StephanV said:
Don't ever use your task killer again, it only causes problems.
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Why? I use it a lot...
To solve 60mA problem, each time you want to boot android:
1) when you are in windows mobile, lock the phone and turn the screen off by press end call button
2) wait few seconds and press it again to turn on screen
3) you see lock screen, unlock your phone
4) after that boot your android quickly within 10 seconds! (you can do it by creat shortcut of android on your home sceen)
I test it and solve problem for me on both mccm and mdeejay builds!
Phantoml337 said:
Why? I use it a lot...
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It was discussed hunderd of times. You dont need to free up mem in android 2.x
It has already a memory management built inside.
The only reason to use a task killer is to close an app that hangs or not properly close itself.
If you continue to kill your processes and backround apps just to free up ram, you will definitively drain more battery becaouse some of that apps will just load again automatically from SD or, when you open again one of them, it needs to load again from SD.
rafpigna said:
It was discussed hunderd of times. You dont need to free up mem in android 2.x
It has already a memory management built inside.
The only reason to use a task killer is to close an app that hangs or not properly close itself.
If you continue to kill your processes and backround apps just to free up ram, you will definitively drain more battery becaouse some of that apps will just load again automatically from SD or, when you open again one of them, it needs to load again from SD.
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Exactly. And apps not closing properly is still not an excuse for using it. If the app is bad uninstall it or mail the dev to fixit, but don't go around screwing stuff up with a task killer.
Phantoml337 said:
Why? I use it a lot...
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Me to....i use 2!
Autokiller on agressive,and a taskkiller....never troubles with drain etc
Or everyone check my signiture for my thread on battery drain solution
I think the OP is really onto something here. I tried this trick & my drain has gone from a steady 55-65mA down to around 5. I'm impressed!
Just one question, those of you that having issues with battery drain what WM do u use? I've recently had a problem on my HD2 (no USB) and i installed a stock ROM. Before i had the VBN Droid Reloaded 2 and with Mdeejay kernel current widget never showed me values above 300mA (witch i believe i only saw that value 1 time). Usually i'd get from 1-2mA to 250mA tops. Now i'll never go below 60mA and i've seen the record of 600mA. Today it drain me from 95% to 35% in about 2 hours. A bit too much for my taste...
I always find if you boot Android with Win Mo fully booted, it's over 60mA, but if I use Exceller Dual Boot to boot Android before Win Mo has finished loading, then it's 5-6mA.
Yea man task_killer - problem
Everything is working for me fine, i am using futureShocks MIUI build, the only thing is when i switch on bluetooth, my battery drain is about 60-80 mAh without bluetooth i have 3-6 mAh... no task killer, no setcpu, with other builds like mdeejays sense roms this problem is not !?
Everyone an idea how to solve the problem ?