[Solution] WP7 never sleeps - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

Last night I decided to switch off my HD2 to save some battery. What a critical mistake. In the morning the phone would't boot anymore. My wild guess is that you can't actually turn off your HD2, if you are on WP7.
I managed to find a workaround as I don't have a charging station at hand. That's how it works:
- Leave the phone off and connect it to your PC. Have a Win 6.5 CUSTOM ROM at hand. You will need a custom ROM because stock won't flash if your battery is less than 50%!
- With your phone connected switch in on while holding down "Vol Down". This way I was able go get to HSPL and stay there. It seems that if you enter HSPL with the phone connected to the PC it gets some power from there. If not connected to the PC my HD2 would immediately shut down!
- Flash your Win 6.5 ROM and charge fully.
- Go back to WP7, Android or whatever your heart desires

Easier solution, turn off, pull battery, replace. Simple. I found too that it didn't switch off properly (leave a usb cable plugged in & turn off) it just hangs on "Goodbye". Pulling the battery kills wp7, unless when you said "turned off my phone" you actually meant "turned off the screen" Obviously if you leave your phone in sleep overnight its gonna shed battery.

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[Solutiion] WP7 never sleeps

Last night I decided to switch off my HD2 to save some battery. What a critical mistake. In the morning the phone would't boot anymore. My wild guess is that you can't actually turn off your HD2, if you are on WP7.
I managed to find a workaround as I don't have a charging station at hand. That's how it works:
- Leave the phone off and connect it to your PC. Have a Win 6.5 CUSTOM ROM at hand. You will need a custom ROM because stock won't flash if your battery is less than 50%!
- With your phone connected switch in on while holding down "Vol Down". This way I was able go get to HSPL and stay there. It seems that if you enter HSPL with the phone connected to the PC it gets some power from there. If not connected to the PC my HD2 would immediately shut down!
- Flash your Win 6.5 ROM and charge fully.
- Go back to WP7, Android or whatever your heart desires

Fix for dead hd2 winphone 7 fter battery discharge

Probably the wrong place but this forum is beyond navigation for newbies like me...
if you have let your battery run dry and can no longer charge and get into your win7 hd2, here's how I did it...remove sim and sd card, plug charger in, it will boot and charge again... worked for me...
I'll make sure to keep this in mind, if it works! I'll make an edit to announce my results when that unfortunate day comes.
Pulling the battery out and sticking it back in works too.
NeoGreendawg said:
Pulling the battery out and sticking it back in works too.
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not for me. if its really discharged and i remove the battery, put it back, the charge led (orange) goes on and after 5sec its off again and nothing happens
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Pulling the battery out and sticking it back in works too.
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Nope, that only works if you still have charge left in battery. removing and putting it back in also unlocks it because if you power on phone with USB in it locks for some reason. Well mine does anyway.
If your battery is completley dead then you have no choice (atm) to either charge the battery externally with a dock or by using a USB cable with end cut off (red wire to positive/black to negative).
NeoGreendawg said:
Pulling the battery out and sticking it back in works too.
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Yes. That's what I also do many times. Never fails
No need to pull out your micro sd, it might cause your rom corrupt. Be careful!
Here's What works for me
Remove the battery .. put it back ... keep the down volume key pressed n press the power key ... THE phone will be on recovery screen... plug THE usb in .. leave it like this for like 15 mins n now reboot . It will be recharged just enuff to power the phone on ... keep the usb plugged and it will start rechaging ...
None of these tricks worked for me, and I didn't want to cut my usb cable...
But I solved the problem with dual boot. Now I can charge my hd2 when it's turned off, and I even have my battery able to charge up to 100%
I presume the phone will not charge if theres not enough power to enter WP7.
I thought the phone would charge by the USB power lead if its turned off.
I guess enter MAGLDR or the Tricolour screen will allow it to charge?
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Nope, that only works if you still have charge left in battery.
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I've let my phone turn itself off twice since I've been on WP7 and pulling the battery has been enough to get it to boot up far enough to charge both times so maybe I've just been lucky or maybe the phone shuts down before it's completely discharged...
Oh man, this happened to me the other day. Battery died, phone wouldn't hold a charge. Freaked out!! But after some trial and error it worked.
Its not possible to charge the phone when its turned off?
This happened to me when I was still using WinMo. When I connected the phone to charger, it seemed dead (no led light), but after some time (I left it charging over night) it catched up and charged.
This is not possible with WP7? I wouldnt say, that MGDLR could change the way of charging when the phone is off.
keep an external charger for this problem. at least we can hope in the next update of the ROM will solve this problem
In my case, since I fall asleep while listen to music, in morning I wake up, phone already shutdown and can not boot. Even when I plug in, it boot to htc welcome then reboot.
I have tried to pull out the battery and put it back but nothing happen, my phone keep reboot.
So, I pull out the battery and charge with external charger (can charge battery only without phone). Then after 30min put it back then it works.
Thanks god. So be prepare an external charger because WP drain more power then we thought even with the warning 10%. I can not have enough power left for an over night.
This works for me.
This is known maglard issue. This steps works for me every time.
1. Remove battery and after few seconds place it back.
2. Connect your phone with PC through USB
3. Now enter bootloader by pressing Vol Down and Power buttons at same time.
4. Leave it connected for a few minutes.
5. Disconnect your phone from PC and remove battery for a few seconds.
6. Now place battery back and power up your phone.
7. You will start WP7 and now you can continue charging battery normaly.
MGDLR choose last option
it hapens to me and what i have done is in MGDLR I choose last option an it satart charging after some minutes you have to take out the baterry and reboot
it work for me
Happened to me this morning:
1) Took battery out, placed in cradle, put battery in, and held down 'POWER' whilst it booted to MAGLDR.
2) Selected USB Mass Storage Mode, waited for 10 minutes, pulled the battery out, whilst still in the cradle.
3) Re-inserted battery, allowed WP7 to boot, and orange light came on whilst booting, and started charging in WP7.
Thanks to all in this thread!
Nick
Tghe VOL DOWN + POWER works. Happened to me yesterday and after 10 minutes in tricolor I was able to boot.
Bootloader Charges Battery
VICTORY! I was frustrated, and pulling out the battery for a few seconds didn't help at all. Putting the phone in the bootloader (tricolor) screen for 10 minutes worked for me. Phone is back in WP7 and is charging.
No need to pull out battery just hold down power button boot to magdlr main menu leave charger in for 5 mins than boot wp7 (first option in menu) than shud work
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HD2 charge from dead battery questions

I have an HD2 I just bought, should be still under warranty (aside from running wp7 and random warranty-voiding stuff) and I am noticing an issue of when I totally kill it, it seemingly won't charge (or no charge light comes on at least) until I pull the battery out and put it back in. Also, I have noticed it doesn't power on from that state (light goes from orange to green) until I pull out the battery and put it back in. Is it just because I'm running WP7 and hardspl3 or radio 2.14.50... (or whatever recommended radio is for wp7). It's not a huge deal but it makes me curious. Also I get occasional restarts upon booting wp7 but it always boots into it (maybe 1 or 2 restarts every ten boots, and it seems to happen more after total kill). Just wondering if people are having similar issues.
WP7 is pretty cool, but I am wondering how many prefer 6.5? I'm an avid Android user (never ran 6.5 except on a Blackjack ii briefly, and yes, 6.5) and I was curious what you guys thought of wp6.5 vs wp7.
Lastly, I am wanting a magldr compatible sd version of a Desire HD ROM with sense and everything that isn't overclocked (I know there are some out there that are, ie DL.DesireZ 3.x).
Please advise.
It's not WP7, it is MAGLDR. MAGLDR does not have a software in it which allows the phone to charge when off.
My advice to you, never, ever, let your phone lose charge. A dead battery is a dead phone in our case, unless you have spare batteries.
I figured something like that. It's not going to botch the magldr flash though if it dies, is it? I would assume magldr is read-only or close to or something like that to where it can't corrupt itself.
I don't see why a dead battery can kill MAGLDR, it'll just leave your hd2 unable to turn on. However MAGLDR, I assume, isn't incorruptible. Well if you're afraid of corruption from leftover flashing, for whenever you want to flash WP7, Android or winmo, perform a task 29 first, flash MAGLDR, and then the OS. Well if it winmo, then a task 29, then simply flashing winmo and done.
Oh and the reason WP7 kept on rebooting on yours was because your sd card was incompatible. My advice is to reformat the sd card with panasonic formatter, full format btw, and then reinstall WP7. If that doesn't work, you just have to get a new card.
A MAGLDR SD desire hd version I know not of. Since NAND came out, SD development has died off so there are only a few developers that still strive in that forum.
Well it restarts hardly ever so I probably am not going to worry about it. It's the stock HD2 sd that came with the phone. The reason I want an sd build is because I want to dual boot.
I don't understand how I seem to be the only one who can charge in magldr.
I've drained my battery many times to the point where it doesn't turn on to calibrate using Android. Pulled battery, reinserted and connected wall charger. Orange light comes on which means it's picking up charge, leave it for a few minutes so it gets some residual charge in it, pull battery and charger, reinsert, boot up, then during boot process plug the charger back in and away you are, charging from scratch.
I too didnt have any problems charging dead batteries via MAGLDR.
Those who are can update to version 1.13 as its now got a workaround for it apparently.
I wasn't aware v13 was even out. Well it's not a big deal. Glad everyone is having this issue . This bug still beats having to wait 20 minutes for my stock Sammy Vibrant to boot up. Damn ridiculous.
Is your battery life worse on WP7 or WP6.5? I get roughly 8-10 hours. I'm surprised it burns that much electricity seeing as how all it is is some colored squares and no data connection or multitasking.
EDIT: Updated to MAGLDR ver. 1.13 without a hitch. Will see how this goes. For the record I was using 1.12.
I guess this is the fix:
"*Fixed Power-Off-Cable-Plug-Stop. Phone now detects this situation and reboots. Battery controller inside LEO needs runtime control during charge, it implemented in OS."
I could do it on the first version of magldr, as long as the Orange light comes on you're good to go, just leave to get some charge then pull everything reinsert turn on, simple...
I found the trick--MAGLDR V1.13
Plug the phone into a wall charger. Hold the call end button as soon as the phone comes on booting into MAGLDR. Let the phone stay at the MAGLDR menu screen for about 15 to 20 minutes. Restart the phone and leave it on the charger. It will have enough power to make it to the android home screen.
sorry for the delayed reply bro but i justr had this problem lately and know abt the fix for it... just go into magldr by pressing the power key for sumtime on bootup... after that plug in the wall adapter for about 20 - 30 minutes... havng done that remove the battery and insert it agiain w/o the charger... start the phone and let it go the main wp7 screen where it will stay for only about 20 seconds... quickly run to the settings menu and switch on airplane mode and put the brightness to the lowest setting... and quickly lock the screen... the phn will start charging fine... now leave it for an hour to charge and then adjust the brightness as u like and turn on airplane mode... it will work fine... take precautions for next time... there is a kind of an odd fix that was in forums...(sorry dont have the link)... when the wp7 is working go to the default camera and go to the video camera mode and switch back to the still camera and press the windows buttn to go to the main screen... the battery drainage is very less in this case and the stanby increases... cheers!

[Q] Android HD2 reboots at Dark Forces Team Screen

So I have been using my HD2 with Android installed in the internal memory for at least 6 months with no issues. My HD2's battery life has dwindled down to being about 3 hours, so I ordered a new one. I popped in the new battery and plugged the phone in, and now the phone will continuously reboot itself while plugged in, when it reaches the Dark Forces Team screen. I installed the old battery, and the same thing happens. The phone will not turn on unless it in plugged in. Also is there anyway to charge the phone while it is off? When you plug it in, it turns itself on automatically. Lastly, I don't know if this affects anything, but I did drop the phone from about 3 feet with the charger in, and now the plug has to be pushed in to get charged. Thanks for all your help guys.
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So I have been using my HD2 with Android installed in the internal memory for at least 6 months with no issues. My HD2's battery life has dwindled down to being about 3 hours, so I ordered a new one. I popped in the new battery and plugged the phone in, and now the phone will continuously reboot itself while plugged in, when it reaches the Dark Forces Team screen. I installed the old battery, and the same thing happens. The phone will not turn on unless it in plugged in. Also is there anyway to charge the phone while it is off? When you plug it in, it turns itself on automatically. Lastly, I don't know if this affects anything, but I did drop the phone from about 3 feet with the charger in, and now the plug has to be pushed in to get charged. Thanks for all your help guys.
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1- dropping your phone with damage may certainly have caused this. did the problems start right after?
2- with magldr you cannot charge with it turned off.
3- try to boot into bootloader. is that possible?
I didnt notice anything different after dropping it, except now I usually have something wedged under the charger. I tried Loading in through MAGLDR BOOT AD NAND. No luck.
you misunderstood.
can you boot into bootloader (not magldr)? the tricolor screen- turn phone off, turn on and hold down the volume down key.
if you can (and should be able to do so) - i would start over. flash back to WM. i never do task29 though conflicting reports. then reinstall whatever OS you are using. if problems persist on WM, then is hardware. however, to flash back to WM you will need battery life (>50%) which may represent a problem. but try to get into bootloader first.

[Q] Charging While In MAGLDR 1.13

Ok, so last week my iPhone got lost, and I had to get a new sim card (on AT&T). I asked all my friends if they had any sim card phones I can borrow, and one of them let me use her HTC HD2 (T-Mobile branded).
I installed everything correctly, Radio, MAGLDR, HardSPL and Android perfectly. The phone has been working great (sans 3G) for the past week.
I noticed the battery died VERY quickly, and seeing as the phone was old, ordered a new one.
I got it in the mail today, and upon plugging it in (because of MAGLDR 1.13), it automatically turns on and tries to boot android from NAND.
Here is the problem: It doesnt have enough battery to fully boot up, so about 5 seconds after showing the Dark Force Team screen, it reboots. And loops.
I can find no way of charging the battery. Wall chargers and USB cords do the same, it automatically turns on, and will NOT charge.
I'm not sure why MAGLDR automatically turns on the phone instead of just keeping it off, or am I missing a setting somewhere?
Pull the battery press and hold the power button until it boots into magldr and leave it like that for 10 or 15 minutes it will charge but not indicate its charging then switch on normaly
It continually surprises me that the advice to "boot into magldr and leave it for 10/15 minutes" keeps being offered.
the person who wrote magldr clearly states that the phone WILL NOT CHARGE under magldr,,, android must be running. The code to control charging doesn't exist in magldr, it is not possible to charge using only magldr. That's why magldr starts the phone when it detects the USB connection,,,, so that android can boot to allow charging to start.
OP, get a spare USB cable, mini / micro, cut end off, bare red and black, take out battery plug usb into wall charger and hold red to + and black to - for a minute or two. Should now be enough charge to boot into android and start charging.
When a battery is empty, but only just empty, not fully discharged, letting it rest for ten mins often allows the residual charge to build up a little, so a phone that wouldn't start suddenly has enough to just about start. I believe this is why people think leaving it in magldr charges it. It doesn't.
I left it for an hour and still the bootloop.
I even tried it with the battery I know works. After 25 minutes the battery had 3% less charge then before I left it plugged in at the MAGLDR main menu.
if it bootloops with a good battery, there's a good chance it is a bent battery pin. Either that, or sometimes when a battery dies whilst the OS is running, it screws up and then wont boot until you do a hard reset or fresh flash. (However normally it would hang rather than bootloop, but anything is possible)
samsamuel said:
It continually surprises me that the advice to "boot into magldr and leave it for 10/15 minutes" keeps being offered.
the person who wrote magldr clearly states that the phone WILL NOT CHARGE under magldr,,, android must be running. The code to control charging doesn't exist in magldr, it is not possible to charge using only magldr. That's why magldr starts the phone when it detects the USB connection,,,, so that android can boot to allow charging to start.
OP, get a spare USB cable, mini / micro, cut end off, bare red and black, take out battery plug usb into wall charger and hold red to + and black to - for a minute or two. Should now be enough charge to boot into android and start charging.
When a battery is empty, but only just empty, not fully discharged, letting it rest for ten mins often allows the residual charge to build up a little, so a phone that wouldn't start suddenly has enough to just about start. I believe this is why people think leaving it in magldr charges it. It doesn't.
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Are you sure about this? Because if you turn off phone at 1% charge, turn on MAGLDR 1.13 -> USB FLASHER and leave it over night, battery is at 100% when turn on and lasts for a day.
Just going on what cotulla says, and since he wrote magldr he knows that the code to control the charge circuits doesn't exist in magldr, plus the OP says he left it in magldr and the % went down.
However you sound like you've tested this yourself, so I shan't argue with you, since I haven't.
Perhaps USB flasher mode exposes the battery terminals to raw USB power, bypassing the charge control circuits, giving the same effect as holding bare wires to the battery?
Yeah I'll have to figure something out. And not to knock the writer of MAGLDR, because I could certainly not create something like it, but I find it odd and almost disturbing that the creator is fully aware that a dead battery basically bricks your phone?
I think "bricks your phone" is a bit harsh,, its not like its a surprise, most roms spend the last 15/20% warning you of low battery.
I've used the bare wire method three or four times now when my battery ran out, and although I did say it sometimes won't boot after running out, as often as not it does boot ok. I'd go into cwm and clear cache,, if that doesn't help I'd try a cwm backup,hard reset (via cwm, not the built in bootloader hard reset) see if it starts fresh, and if it does restore SD ext,, if THAT works I'd then restore data.
Just a quick related question - can you charge your phone while in bootloader? I couldn't find an answer to that but I need to know...
Allegedly not. At least that's always been the answer that has been given for the past two years. I for one believe that it doesn't charge in bootloader.
Heres the update : I had a bad charger and the usb cable was messed up as well hence the phone dies on me as battery got over. When i was trying to charge it, was getting a bootloop because of MAGldr so what i did was left the phone in the main Mag menu for 5 mins and rebooted and viola it booted in android and is charging now hope this helps i guess somehow MAG does charge your phone cheers

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