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I sure hope the screen technology on the new LG Nexus 4 is as good as, or close to that of the HTC One X screen ?
I have the Galaxy Nexus, and international One X, running CM10 Nightly's on both. There is absolutely no question whatsoever, that the One X has by far the superior screen technology, over Samsung's 720p pentile AMOLED screen on the Galaxy Nexus. The One X is easier to see outside in daylight, the image is more crsip / sharp on the One X, and reading texts in e-mails and news webpages is also far clearer and more detailed on the One X. Only thing the Samsung screen has on it, is the deep blacks and cartoon colors, that's it.
I know the Nexus 4 uses IPS technology, similar to that of HTC's One X. I am not even asking for the Nexus 4 to be better than the One X's screen, I will be a happy camper as long at it is at least the same quality and clear image.
Whats the verdict ?
I read somewhere that they are very close in quality. Hard to choose which is best, so I wouldn't worry!
some say yes
i think probably not, but close
They're basically even. I wager some reviews will say its better, but overall they'll be a draw.
I'd say it's better. IPS is amazing.
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Looks like you can afford it, buy it and put it side by side then let us know. I would go to a Sprint or ATT store, they have both the One X and LG Optimus G.
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They should be very similar, the only difference I could see from the Specs sheet is that the Nexus 4 has a resolution of 1280x768 and 320dpi vs the One X's 1280x720 and 312 dpi.
its better afaik...
768x1280 vs 720x1280
True HD IPS plus vs Super IPS2
plus the contrast is greater
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If I'm not mistaken, the SLCD2 screens in the ONE X are made by Samsung, and now they even makw SLDC3 1080p screen like showcased in the HTC J Butterfly.
I don't understand why Samsung keeps using their inferior (Screenburn, low Brighness, inaccurate colors.., in most cases higher power usage) Amoled screens
in their top Smartphones.
The Galaxy Note 2 with an 5.5" 1080p SLCD3 would have been amazing.
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If I'm not mistaken, the SLCD2 screens in the ONE X are made by Samsung, and now they even makw SLDC3 1080p screen like showcased in the HTC J Butterfly.
I don't understand why Samsung keeps using their inferior (Screenburn, low Brighness, inaccurate colors.., in most cases higher power usage) Amoled screens
in their top Smartphones.
The Galaxy Note 2 with an 5.5" 1080p SLCD3 would have been amazing.
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You are COMPLETELY mistaken - Samsung don't make the one x screens at all.
Sharp & acer make the screens available on the ONEX (with Sony making a few that seem to be U.S AT&T version only)
Sharp is the warm yellow variant
Acer is the cool blue variant
Most say sharp is the better version.
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"S-LCD Corporation (Hangul: 에스 엘시디, Japanese: エス・エルシーディー) is a South Korean manufacturer of amorphous TFT LCD panels and wholly owned subsidiary of Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd"
This is what Wikipedia tells me.
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"S-LCD Corporation (Hangul: 에스 엘시디, Japanese: エス・エルシーディー) is a South Korean manufacturer of amorphous TFT LCD panels and wholly owned subsidiary of Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd"
This is what Wikipedia tells me.
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Panel IDs for HTC ONE X
Sharp 0x294000f
Acer 0x4940014
Sony 0x1810
Sony tends to be US AT&T only for most, international devices are either acer or sharp.
So, you can forget Samsung making these screens.
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S-LCD is a company name for Samsung, not the name of an LCD technology. It's super-LCD versus Samsung-LCD. Same acronym, different meaning.
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Hi everyone...
I've 3 phones...
Xperia arc S
HTC one X
Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Now when i compare any 1080p movie from you tube at full HQ n full brightness of the respective phones ... this is what i noticed...
HTC one S has the best colour combinations contrast ratio n colours..... second cones Sony xperia arc S ... n lastly came the Samsung Galaxy nexus....
The display on GN was quite not satisfying.. I dont know why.. but there wasn't good colour contrast in it.... the colours weren't rich as the other two...
DO YOU THINK THIS WILL BE THE SAME CASE IN THIS NEXUS 4 ?
Please discuss this or lemme know coz yes.. I'm just one another person thinking to buy Nexus 4..
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I was just about to post a similar thread. GNex had the PenTile arrangement of pixels, and a SuperAMOLED Display (which had defects and all). But the Nexus 4 has a totally different display technology. I hope someone will be able to explain the difference (as I don't exactly know the difference myself).
Look at the Anandtech review (scroll 3/4th of the way down). The Nexus 4 is looking to have the highest contrast display they've ever tested, even higher than the One X.
Samsung annonced officially, the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini.
it has 4.3" qHD disply, android 4.2.2 but with out most of the features of S4 (like no double shot, no 360 panorama), has S Health but with out S4 sensors like temperature sensor, barometer and humidity sensor
chipset is most likely Snapdragon 400 at 1.7Ghz with 1.5Gb of RAM and internal storage is 8Gb with Micro SD card slot for expanding it.
rest of connectivity options and usual, wifi, bluetooth,GPS with GLONASS etc...
also has IR blaster for remote controlling.
the phone has dimensions of 124.6 x 61.3 x 8.94mm and weighs 107g which is cool
battery is user replacable and is 1900mAh.
no word on pricing. samsung will show it off on June 20 and most likely to reveal pricing then.
available color options are Black Mist and White Frost.
i kinda like it except the qHD screen. it should have been at least 720p but all its success depends on its pricing.
what do u guys think?
The SIII Mini always struck me as a bit pointless, having neither the spec to appeal to those that like phones with a bit of muscle or the price point for those that want a decent phone on a budget. It didn't really satisfy anyone and I have a sneaky feeling we're going to see more of the same with this.
Definitely not more of the same, but then the s3 mini was especially useless. Rumors/leaks have the ATT version of the s4 mini at 720p (presumably pentile, but no confirmation). But gsmarena just confirmed that the version announced for europe is NOT pentile. It's got the same RGB s stripe as the Note 2. At 4.25" with qHD, it has a very respectable 259ppi that is at least as sharp as a Galaxy S3, and maybe slightly sharper. I'd almost as soon have RGB qHD as 720p pentile, so at least I know for sure what I'm getting. It comes with air view and multiwindow, which is kinda surprising.
http://www.androidbeat.com/2013/05/gs4-mini-720p/
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_mini-review-932.php
If this is $300, I'm gonna be very happy. If $350, I'm gonna be a little happy. If $400, I'm gonna be not very happy, but might get it anyway.
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Definitely not more of the same, but then the s3 mini was especially useless. Rumors/leaks have the ATT version of the s4 mini at 720p (presumably pentile, but no confirmation). But gsmarena just confirmed that the version announced for europe is NOT pentile. It's got the same RGB s stripe as the Note 2. At 4.25" with qHD, it has a very respectable 259ppi that is at least as sharp as a Galaxy S3, and maybe slightly sharper. I'd almost as soon have RGB qHD as 720p pentile, so at least I know for sure what I'm getting. It comes with air view and multiwindow, which is kinda surprising.
http://www.androidbeat.com/2013/05/gs4-mini-720p/
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_mini-review-932.php
If this is $300, I'm gonna be very happy. If $350, I'm gonna be a little happy. If $400, I'm gonna be not very happy, but might get it anyway.
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I saw it in a video (closely), and it's not as sharp as S3.
I don't know but it's clueless to compare the number of subpixels to say which is sharper.
With the lower ppi, Note 2 is still a little bit sharper than S3 because they scale it the same as S3 (by adjusting ppi) and no pentile effect on Note 2. But they cannot do the same on a smaller screen like S4 mini-
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I saw it in a video (closely), and it's not as sharp as S3.
I don't know but it's clueless to compare the number of subpixels to say which is sharper.
With the lower ppi, Note 2 is still a little bit sharper than S3 because they scale it the same as S3 (by adjusting ppi) and no pentile effect on Note 2. But they cannot do the same on a smaller screen like S4 mini-
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It's clueless to think you can make a screen sharper through scaling (presumably, you meant adjusting "dpi"). And to claim subpixels have nothing to do with sharpness but still hail the Note 2's lack of a pentile effect as responsible for it's sharpness. What do you think the pentile effect is? And to think you can divine screen sharpness through an encoded web video. Trust me, you can't.
You can pixelate software elements through improper scaling, but you can't sharpen a low density screen through software scaling. For example if you zoom in enough (a form of 'scaling') on a small image even viewing it on a super sharp screen, yeah, it'll look bad, but that's not the screen's problem. If you've got a low density screen, the sharpest of images will look crappy no matter how you scale them. The S4 mini is sharp for the same reason the Note 2 looks sharp: because they share the same complete RGB matrix and almost the same density.
Pentile is nothing more or less than false advertising, a way of artificially inflating the raw spec. It's not the worst thing in the world, it just requires a much higher purported ppi to reach the same sharpness as an RGB matrix screen.
Again like the S3 mini, Samsung is trying to milk more money out of the S4 series but now targeting the mid-range side. Average consumers will probably buy this as there is an "S4" tag on it and is much cheaper than it's big brother.
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It's clueless to think you can make a screen sharper through scaling (presumably, you meant adjusting "dpi"). And to claim subpixels have nothing to do with sharpness but still hail the Note 2's lack of a pentile effect as responsible for it's sharpness. What do you think the pentile effect is? And to think you can divine screen sharpness through an encoded web video. Trust me, you can't.
You can pixelate software elements through improper scaling, but you can't sharpen a low density screen through software scaling. For example if you zoom in enough (a form of 'scaling') on a small image even viewing it on a super sharp screen, yeah, it'll look bad, but that's not the screen's problem. If you've got a low density screen, the sharpest of images will look crappy no matter how you scale them. The S4 mini is sharp for the same reason the Note 2 looks sharp: because they share the same complete RGB matrix and almost the same density.
Pentile is nothing more or less than false advertising, a way of artificially inflating the raw spec. It's not the worst thing in the world, it just requires a much higher purported ppi to reach the same sharpness as an RGB matrix screen.
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I don't think you understand my opinion, maybe due to my bad English. To say clearer, what I mean is the Note 2's screen's scale is basically the same as Galaxy S3 with the same 320 dpi - zooming from 4.8 to 5.55 inch. This means, a same font of texts, a word with a length of 120 pixels on S3 (1/6 of the total length) is still 120 pixels on Note 2 (also 1/6 of the total length), but 15.625% bigger in real-size (what you actually see). So is the result is what you can see clear on S3, you can see it CLEARER on Note 2. That's is the technichque Samsung usually implements, like on Note 8.0 that make it much more sharper than iPad mini in browsing. If we compare a same line of texts with 5mm of "real size", the result from a screen like One X basically has 18% more pixels to illustrate the detail of the text, which results in being clearer than Note 2. And if you really have a Note 2 (i'm using it), when visiting some websites in desktop mode (like xda forum, lol), the text is very small and not crisp anymore.
But how about Galaxy S4 Mini? "The S4 mini is sharp for the same reason the Note 2 looks sharp"? OK, now we will consider the same thing as Note 2 above. For a line of texts equivalent to 1/6 total length of the screen, it takes only 93.33 pixels, which means noticeably less than S3 and Note 2 with smaller "real size" also, so it cannot be as sharp as S3. And in fact, Samsung did rescale from 320dpi to 240 dpi on Galaxy S4 Mini, which also means for a same font of texts, the number of pixels for displaying increases about 15.3%, so from 93.33 pixels I said above now it is appox. 108 pixels, which is not too far from Galaxy S3, and the payoff is the screen is cramped. So we cannot say "because Note 2 is sharp so Galaxy S4 Mini is also sharp"
About Pentile screen, it is not totally "nothing more or less than false advertising", but more like "false understanding of the major and the misleading criticisms". Why? Because most of people don't understand what is "Pentile". In fact, this "technology" can ONLY be used on OLED (AMOLED) technogy, which has the uneven luminance and lumious time of different color subpixels. Even experts cannot show the "exactly" ppi of an Pentile Amoled screen (because even with Pentile, different stripes layout leads to different result), while some people try to do an easier way that comparing the total number of subpixels, which is totally false. In fact, Galaxy S4 has 623 subpixels/inch, slightly higher than Blackberry Z10 (615) and iPhone 5 (565), but it is MUCH more sharper and not really different from the normal RGB 1080p screen like Xperia Z.
With Pentile screen, the main culprit of all criticism is not the lack of subpixels, but the uneven scale of pixels (because they're not real pixels) and uneven big-small gaps redundant. That's why they call the subpixels layout of S4 is innovative while still Pentile, because it is much much better than the traditional matrix on Galaxy S3 and together with the high ppi reduces most of Pentile problem (in fact, with traditional matrix, even with 441 ppi probably there will be something there)
Does or can S4 Mini have stock or by a custom rom have Air & Motion gestures ??
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Does or can S4 Mini have stock or by a custom rom have Air & Motion gestures ??
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No, the sensor isn't there.
i wish this could be my next phone
I'm considering this too as my next phone.
Compact, powerful, enough RAM and a non-pentile qHD display.
mpokwsths said:
I'm considering this too as my next phone.
Compact, powerful, enough RAM and a non-pentile qHD display.
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It was recently announced that CM10.1 is being prepared for i9195 version. Is there any info of whether it will also be supported for i9190 international version (without LTE and NFC)?
I also suppose we need a separate ROOT thread for it as nor 9192 neither 9195 procedures might fit.
mpokwsths said:
I'm considering this too as my next phone.
Compact, powerful, enough RAM and a non-pentile qHD display.
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Me too
But only if i will find it around to 300€ in next months, and if there will be a good support on XDA
Hi Is there usb otg on galaxy s4 mini ?
KaptanJack026 said:
Hi Is there usb otg on galaxy s4 mini ?
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Not at the moment. MHL isn't supported either.
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It was recently announced that CM10.1 is being prepared for i9195 version. Is there any info of whether it will also be supported for i9190 international version (without LTE and NFC)?
I also suppose we need a separate ROOT thread for it as nor 9192 neither 9195 procedures might fit.
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No info. There isn't a root for the 9190 yet - the 9192 and 9195 procedures do not work on the 9190 and will probably brick your device.
hello, does anyone know when this phone will be available in the usa? can not find any info on this
if this is in the wrong forum please move, thanks
Which phone should i buy? sIII or s4 mini
Get the S4 mini if you want to future-proof yourself.
The S3 mini specifications are quite outdated
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Get the S4 mini if you want to future-proof yourself.
The S3 mini specifications are quite outdated
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No, i said between the normal s3 4.7" and s4mini. S3is cheaper here and has more ROMs and development
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No, i said between the normal s3 4.7" and s4mini. S3is cheaper here and has more ROMs and development
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Hmm, you've mentioned the main benefit of getting the S3 I guess.
Also, the S3 has quad-core as opposed to the dual-core S4 mini. S3 has 1 GB of ram only though.
There are also more accessories for the S3 than for the S4 mini because the mini has a smaller market and is also a newer device.
Guys I am a S4 user from more than 6 months..Today one of my friend brought his S4 which is in stock condition and 5 months old as well..His screen is way more brighter than mine..Yes I was shocked too..I m rooted and using crash Rom plus domination theme but that does not matter i think ..I tried several apps to compare like stock browser,lock screen and camera.His screen has much glow and more brighter than mine.Both the phones have adaptive display mode on.My phone screen looks like dull..I can't show u the difference in picture because of camera quality..
Left S4 is mine and right one is brighter one..May be in picture there is no difference..
hello friends. i just got back to using z1 after using galaxy s4(first 1080p phone and i liked it) . then used lg optimis g ( its screen is much much better and sharper than the 1080p gs4) also used lg g3 for 2 weeks and it was better than og and s4 of course
now i got a z1 and first thing i noticed is that colors on screen lack too much contrast . now i only have my og and s4 to compare to.
compared to og :
og screen is much much more sharp
colors are more pleasing tobyhe eyes
blue is more like white on z1
black is grey
red is orange on z1
viewing photos on web and specially preview photoa from playstore is really interesting : on z1 these previews lack detail and look lower resolution just like comparing a ps3 game onbtv. then using a pc at 1080p on the same tv.
reading on the 720p og is more comfortable. viweing many web pages and read some gamarena on both. text is sharper and more comfortable to read on the og
z1 screen . white is yellowish white. no matter what whute balance i use or screen filtres i tried the og ips display is just amazing and even better than the suoer amoled s4 which has yellowish screen too.
another thing i noted is that 720p youtube videos are little blurry on z1. but on og are like 1440p
my z1 is faulty ? no i called two of my friends with z1 and z2. the z1 was same as mine but thank god the Z2 screen is muchbimprovement but sharpness was never close the og or g2 or g3.
z2 screen has more contrast than the og and colors are deeper but i dont understand is it feels like there is some kind of filter on it very slight fxaa or something.
also white is yellow on the z2 .
lg sucks making sscreens. but aony withbtheir bravua screens cant make a decent screen forbtheirbsmartphones
Z1 has tempered glass, and z1 screen is the highest ppi which is 441, so its sharper. The colors are okay its on the realistic side not like other phones that has over colored.
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hello friends. i just got back to using z1 after using galaxy s4(first 1080p phone and i liked it) . then used lg optimis g ( its screen is much much better and sharper than the 1080p gs4) also used lg g3 for 2 weeks and it was better than og and s4 of course
now i got a z1 and first thing i noticed is that colors on screen lack too much contrast . now i only have my og and s4 to compare to.
compared to og :
og screen is much much more sharp
colors are more pleasing tobyhe eyes
blue is more like white on z1
black is grey
red is orange on z1
viewing photos on web and specially preview photoa from playstore is really interesting : on z1 these previews lack detail and look lower resolution just like comparing a ps3 game onbtv. then using a pc at 1080p on the same tv.
reading on the 720p og is more comfortable. viweing many web pages and read some gamarena on both. text is sharper and more comfortable to read on the og
z1 screen . white is yellowish white. no matter what whute balance i use or screen filtres i tried the og ips display is just amazing and even better than the suoer amoled s4 which has yellowish screen too.
another thing i noted is that 720p youtube videos are little blurry on z1. but on og are like 1440p
my z1 is faulty ? no i called two of my friends with z1 and z2. the z1 was same as mine but thank god the Z2 screen is muchbimprovement but sharpness was never close the og or g2 or g3.
z2 screen has more contrast than the og and colors are deeper but i dont understand is it feels like there is some kind of filter on it very slight fxaa or something.
also white is yellow on the z2 .
lg sucks making sscreens. but aony withbtheir bravua screens cant make a decent screen forbtheirbsmartphones
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z1 display is tft
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z1 display is tft
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all of displays are lcd tft (only oled not).
z1 has lcd tft TN.
very old and bad (It needs a lot of electricity) display.
tracer123 said:
all of displays are lcd tft (only oled not).
z1 has lcd tft TN.
very old and bad (It needs a lot of electricity) display.
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We have two kind of display for phones till now
LCD ( tft, ips ,q-ips,....) Xperia z, z1, zu but z1c is IPS z2, z3 are IPS too
Led ( amoled, super amoled, ....)
Please search more about dispalys
But we can tune that by custom kernels
Amoled is also TFT
An AMOLED display consists of an active matrix of OLED pixels generating light (luminescence) upon electrical activation that have been deposited or integrated onto a thin-film-transistor (TFT) array, which functions as a series of switches to control the current flowing to each individual pixel.[5]
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only oled is diffrent.
An organic light-emitting diode (OLED) is a light-emitting diode (LED) in which the emissive electroluminescent layer is a film of organic compound which emits light in response to an electric current.
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z1 has lcd tft tn, this is really old display
what ever screen is there, it sucks.
also i have this question if you dont mind. is it just me or the z1 is not as snappy as it used to be on kitkat amd jellybean. also ram is way too low, og has twie free ram(vodaphone rom) arround 1gb most time
The displays on Xperia devices are less color saturated than Samsung AMOLEDs . But the Z1 display is even more dull than the rest Xperia lineup. You can go to Display setting and bump up the settings on the White Balance to make it a little better. Or just use a custom kernel or tweak kernel settings. I don't think the Z1 is any slower on LP than JB or KK but yes there's definitely more heat-up and RAM issues.
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very old and bad
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Two years old device is in fact VEEEEEERY old... OMG
So Sony just does it perfectly with the 6 month cycle of new devices. They get soooo old
Reading OT gave me cancer. Did you read what you were going to post before clicking on a POST button at all?
I hope you get cured then .
And yes i did read it
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Two years old device is in fact VEEEEEERY old... OMG
So Sony just does it perfectly with the 6 month cycle of new devices. They get soooo old
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display is old. first sony ericsson smartphone has this same display (techology).
it need a lot of energy vs ips and amoled displays.
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what ever screen is there, it sucks.
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You are the person "store mode" in TV's is made for: intense and wrong colors.
The only thing that is really a bit annoying about the display is that the viewing angle is on the small'ish side.
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also ram is way too low, og has twie free ram(vodaphone rom) arround 1gb most time
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free ram is bad ram, it is not used for anything. See here
On android more specifically the more apps are kept in RAM instead of restarted every time are a good thing to save cpu time and battery.
Apart from the not-so-good viewing angles, the z1 display is pretty good for me.
Its just a matter of preference. After using devices with oled displays (which are notorious, in a good sense, for over-saturation), I think you have started to like punchy colours.
But there are people who don't like over-saturated colours (most of the time). I am one of those people. So for me, the display of z1 is really good enough.
wrong, optimus g can open up to 8 xda tabs without reloading them, but on Z1 tabs would start reloading on the 4th or 3rd tab ....
i can use g+ . fb. msger. hangout. music. playstore and few tabs on chtome without any reload.....
z1 could never do it few tabs on chrome and check google then go back to facebook, either the launcher or the fb app would reload
more free ram is never wasted
never got a home redraw
4 tabs open and 7 apps stiill open and no reload yet
acually reloading is very rare on this phone only achievable if you use chrome browser
still 360mb more free ram to play with .
sony need more lessons on how to optimise their phones
also optimus g has twice bloatware apps
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never got a home redraw
4 tabs open and 7 apps stiill open and no reload yet
acually reloading is very rare on this phone only achievable if you use chrome browser
still 360mb more free ram to play with .
sony need more lessons on how to optimise their phones
also optimus g has twice bloatware apps
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How about you try reducing screen res of z1 too?
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How about you try reducing screen res of z1 too?
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Well g2 is almost the same as og tho og has more free ram
Xperia z1 compact and z3 compact are similar to z1 with about 700mb free ram
Every update we get less ram, my previous z1 on jelly bean had like 1 gb free ram
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Well g2 is almost the same as og tho og has more free ram
Xperia z1 compact and z3 compact are similar to z1 with about 700mb free ram
Every update we get less ram, my previous z1 on jelly bean had like 1 gb free ram
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Kindly read this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20163493&postcount=6695