1. Install new Magldr
2. Install Nand Rom
HTC HD2 running WP7 system :
Flash MAGLDR 1.12
Flash WP7 OS via DWI (DFT Windows Installer).
System starts quickly, after flashing the first boot needs about 20 seconds up to start settings.
—————————————————————–
Battery can be charged normally in WP7 OS.
Testers reports that power consumption is normal.
—————————————————————–
Phone functions are working: call answer, dial without problems and good sound quality, speaker volume is very large, volume +,- keys works fine.
During a call when you can adjust the volume.
SMS send and receive works without problems, display Chinese symbols right.
Import contacts from the SIM card works, the Chinese text displayed correctly, contact editing all normal. Setting ringtone working.
Camera works, all the features available, including the 720P video. (Photo-Flash sync is slightly buggy, better make photos without flash)
Green camera can be used for camera activation.
WiFi turn on, turn off, fast, and works for available networks properly, unable to make detailed settings (common WP7 system issue).
Bluetooth functional normally, but have not detailed settings (common WP7 system issue).
Program interface and system UI works correctly, features fully stocked.
The system date, time, normal, alarm clock works correctly.
Calendar have all functional.
Internet Explorer all functions works, up to 6 pages possible. multitouch works.
Office – all functions are available.
The music and video player works.
Picture view works, including multitouch.
Lock screen interfaces works normally, show event reminders, wallpaper, and appear on screen quickly after power button press, everything OK.
—————————————————————
Sync with the Zune works.
USB function can be achieved (by modifying the registry on the PC side), you can read, write, everything works.
Accelerometer works, autorotation works with beautiful effects.
Screen brightness control can be manually controlled. Automatic works fine too.
Ability to choose custom wallpaper works.
Lock screen, unlock correctly, including password.
——————————————————————
remarks;
Press the dial(green,send) key to enter activate camera, press the dial key again for shooting.
Wake up from standby possible only via power key.
Home key are actually search key (bring up Bing).
Return back via return hardware key.
——————————————————————
Market place : in mobile phone you can start the data connection, such as GPRS, 3G, WiFi, market place access, browse, search, all of the resources, but
Purchase and install the software requires a Live ID to activate, otherwise invalid. Current activation codes is unknown.
About 3G: 3G APN must be set up manually, once it is set, depending on network environment will appear at the top of the screen “, 3G, g, h” signs
Data connection is stable.
About SD card:
This test, I used SD card 2G, about the mechanism after you remove the SD card, Card Reader make SD card into the computer, only 200M available, the remaining 1.64G
Space is divided into a personal identification by Windows Phone RAID region, if you would like to use this SD card after the date required to reformat the card.
Modbus, ASCII modify Windows 7 (Windows XP) brochure sheets, plug the start with the machine to automatic identification in computer don’t mobile Ying pan, you can
The market for its further rows read, Xie operation, but returned to after sales of wp7 systems, Dong Xie into West radio law see, I have been successful solutions of the market for wp7 Locks and install on the
Data source Manager, any Directory can be entered, including under Windows and Windows System Directory, but the radio how the matter could not find the SD card, also found
Previously could not certify release of further sales of those papers, ? can be seen on the computer.
I think nutrited source of that personal information manager software is still no breakthrough in wp7 restrictions the market for SD card
————————————————————–
?????
About battery capacity:
WP7 battery show is Almost a standard confirmation, my battery of measurement there are 50%, but flashing back to WM, entered WM6.5 systems baterry show 29%,
maybe not enough getting confirmation of it, might also be a problem of pool battery , can also be WM system protection mechanism for pool battery , anyway too many factors, this
No examination to consider
—————————————————————–
About solutions of wp7 unlock:
Successful solutions for unlocked, and this is I can confirmed it , but some time later, try to run program its locked again … …
For sure you can unlocked any time you want and also can be locked by yourself.
—————————————————————–
Last part talking about flashing back WM65 system.
Three color boot screen – connected to PC- flash ROM , without flashing back official ROM can be directly flashing any custom WM65 ROM.
——————————————————————
Last :
The overall feeling is, turn on quickly, into the system for about 20 seconds, memory control system runs extremely smooth, very good,
Comes with original programs click on it again, almost cotton feel to the system, you can say speed of first-class, stable
Very good, however, the shutdown is very slow!
Market place with the Xbox Live certification cannot be activated!
Readme I :
*Install MAGLDR 1.12
Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe
*Install LEO70 ROM
In MAGLDR select “5. USB Flasher” via VolDown key and Green key.
Run DWI on PC, read information (!IMPORTANT!) before flashing.
Flash it.
Readme II :
Windows Phone 7 for HTC HD2(LEO) by DFT
Windows Live:
Windows Live functions including the Market don’t work.
To sync contacts/calendar/emails you need to manually set up
your Hotmail account. Using MS Hotmail Connector it’s then
possible to sync with Outlook.
???:
Hard reset:
During boot, when “1234″ appears on screen, press and hold VolUp + VolDown,
until the message appears. Press VolDown twice to clear data.
SD ??
SD Card:
The SD Card will only be available to the OS if it’s inside the device during
its first boot. Removing the SD Card will destroy all user data
and a hard reset is required!
NOT all SD Cards are compatible with WP7.
If your card isn’t compatible with WP7, it won’t be used for data storage or
it may cause random reboots.
There’s no list of compatible cards yet.
WARNING: WP7 will format the SD card during the first boot.
Two SD card partitions are created during cold boot.
First one is a 200Mb FAT partition and another one with unknown format which
is used as RAID with main memory.
Keyboard buttons mapping:
GREEN – camera key
HOME – launch search (Bing)
WIN – show home screen
BACK – backward
RED – power
LEO1024:
At current moment LEO1024 supported, but only 512 megabytes of NAND is used.
Disclaimer:
This product is free to use at your own risk. We take NO responsibility for any
conflict, fault, or damage caused by this procedure. No warranties implied or
otherwise, are given if you agree to use this product. No problems were found while
testing this product on several different devices, your experience may vary.
Dark Forces Team, 12.01.2011
« Samsung Galaxy S Mini S5830 revealed in live pictures Seesmic for Windows Phone 7 finally updated with performance improvements »HTC HD2 Windows Phone 7 ROM released! But still no Live Services
The port of Windows Phone 7 to the HTC HD2 that has been underway for a while now has finally come to fruition with the first public release of an experimental LEO_WP7 ROM courtesy of the DFT (Dark Forces Team). So what is this all about? Well, you can finally play around with Windows Phone 7 on your trusty old HTC HD2 but without access to any Live services which kinda renders the whole thing useless IMO. You can grab it from here ..if you understand Chinese.. Anyway, just read my newly posted:
HUGE Windows Phone 7 Review
…to see what will be missing without access to the Live services.
UPDATE: Find all downloads links and mirrors at the bottom of the post!
UPDATE: yes it is now possible to activate the Live Services via a registry hack that fools the MS servers into thinking that the HTC HD2 is an HTC HD7 and by requesting an activation code from MS (only 3 allowed by LIVE ID). But I strongly recommend you not to do it. Once Microsoft lays down the ban hammer on the Live IDs accessing the services this way… there’s no going back.
Follow me on Twitter for more Windows Phone 7 and Android news.
HTC HD2 running WP7 system :
Flash MAGLDR 1.12
Flash WP7 OS via DWI (DFT Windows Installer).
System starts quickly, after flashing the first boot needs about 20 seconds up to start settings.
—————————————————————–
Battery can be charged normally in WP7 OS.
Testers reports that power consumption is normal.
—————————————————————–
Phone functions are working: call answer, dial without problems and good sound quality, speaker volume is very large, volume +,- keys works fine.
During a call when you can adjust the volume.
SMS send and receive works without problems, display Chinese symbols right.
Import contacts from the SIM card works, the Chinese text displayed correctly, contact editing all normal. Setting ringtone working.
Camera works, all the features available, including the 720P video. (Photo-Flash sync is slightly buggy, better make photos without flash)
Green camera can be used for camera activation.
WiFi turn on, turn off, fast, and works for available networks properly, unable to make detailed settings (common WP7 system issue).
Bluetooth functional normally, but have not detailed settings (common WP7 system issue).
Program interface and system UI works correctly, features fully stocked.
The system date, time, normal, alarm clock works correctly.
Calendar have all functional.
Internet Explorer all functions works, up to 6 pages possible. multitouch works.
Office – all functions are available.
The music and video player works.
Picture view works, including multitouch.
Lock screen interfaces works normally, show event reminders, wallpaper, and appear on screen quickly after power button press, everything OK.
—————————————————————
Sync with the Zune works.
USB function can be achieved (by modifying the registry on the PC side), you can read, write, everything works.
Accelerometer works, autorotation works with beautiful effects.
Screen brightness control can be manually controlled. Automatic works fine too.
Ability to choose custom wallpaper works.
Lock screen, unlock correctly, including password.
——————————————————————
remarks;
Press the dial(green,send) key to enter activate camera, press the dial key again for shooting.
Wake up from standby possible only via power key.
Home key are actually search key (bring up Bing).
Return back via return hardware key.
——————————————————————
Market place : in mobile phone you can start the data connection, such as GPRS, 3G, WiFi, market place access, browse, search, all of the resources, but
Purchase and install the software requires a Live ID to activate, otherwise invalid. Current activation codes is unknown.
About 3G: 3G APN must be set up manually, once it is set, depending on network environment will appear at the top of the screen “, 3G, g, h” signs
Data connection is stable.
About SD card:
This test, I used SD card 2G, about the mechanism after you remove the SD card, Card Reader make SD card into the computer, only 200M available, the remaining 1.64G
Space is divided into a personal identification by Windows Phone RAID region, if you would like to use this SD card after the date required to reformat the card.
Modbus, ASCII modify Windows 7 (Windows XP) brochure sheets, plug the start with the machine to automatic identification in computer don’t mobile Ying pan, you can
The market for its further rows read, Xie operation, but returned to after sales of wp7 systems, Dong Xie into West radio law see, I have been successful solutions of the market for wp7 Locks and install on the
Data source Manager, any Directory can be entered, including under Windows and Windows System Directory, but the radio how the matter could not find the SD card, also found
Previously could not certify release of further sales of those papers, ? can be seen on the computer.
I think nutrited source of that personal information manager software is still no breakthrough in wp7 restrictions the market for SD card
————————————————————–
?????
About battery capacity:
WP7 battery show is Almost a standard confirmation, my battery of measurement there are 50%, but flashing back to WM, entered WM6.5 systems baterry show 29%,
maybe not enough getting confirmation of it, might also be a problem of pool battery , can also be WM system protection mechanism for pool battery , anyway too many factors, this
No examination to consider
—————————————————————–
About solutions of wp7 unlock:
Successful solutions for unlocked, and this is I can confirmed it , but some time later, try to run program its locked again … …
For sure you can unlocked any time you want and also can be locked by yourself.
—————————————————————–
Last part talking about flashing back WM65 system.
Three color boot screen – connected to PC- flash ROM , without flashing back official ROM can be directly flashing any custom WM65 ROM.
——————————————————————
Last :
The overall feeling is, turn on quickly, into the system for about 20 seconds, memory control system runs extremely smooth, very good,
Comes with original programs click on it again, almost cotton feel to the system, you can say speed of first-class, stable
Very good, however, the shutdown is very slow!
Market place with the Xbox Live certification cannot be activated!
Readme I :
*Install MAGLDR 1.12
Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe
*Install LEO70 ROM
In MAGLDR select “5. USB Flasher” via VolDown key and Green key.
Run DWI on PC, read information (!IMPORTANT!) before flashing.
Flash it.
Readme II :
Windows Phone 7 for HTC HD2(LEO) by DFT
Windows Live:
Windows Live functions including the Market don’t work.
To sync contacts/calendar/emails you need to manually set up
your Hotmail account. Using MS Hotmail Connector it’s then
possible to sync with Outlook.
???:
Hard reset:
During boot, when “1234″ appears on screen, press and hold VolUp + VolDown,
until the message appears. Press VolDown twice to clear data.
SD ??
SD Card:
The SD Card will only be available to the OS if it’s inside the device during
its first boot. Removing the SD Card will destroy all user data
and a hard reset is required!
NOT all SD Cards are compatible with WP7.
If your card isn’t compatible with WP7, it won’t be used for data storage or
it may cause random reboots.
There’s no list of compatible cards yet.
WARNING: WP7 will format the SD card during the first boot.
Two SD card partitions are created during cold boot.
First one is a 200Mb FAT partition and another one with unknown format which
is used as RAID with main memory.
Keyboard buttons mapping:
GREEN – camera key
HOME – launch search (Bing)
WIN – show home screen
BACK – backward
RED – power
LEO1024:
At current moment LEO1024 supported, but only 512 megabytes of NAND is used.
Disclaimer:
This product is free to use at your own risk. We take NO responsibility for any
conflict, fault, or damage caused by this procedure. No warranties implied or
otherwise, are given if you agree to use this product. No problems were found while
testing this product on several different devices, your experience may vary.
Dark Forces Team, 12.01.2011
Thanks to RMansoor in the comments below for the download links:
1- hatetepe:rapidshare.com/files/442246181/DFT_LEO70_RELEASE.rar[/url]
Original Link:
hatetepe:wewew.mobiletechworld.com/2011/01/13/htc-hd2-windows-phone-7-rom-released-but-still-no-live-services/[/url]
Have Fun ;-)
Atarimoerder
Wow, you can copy/paste! And in the wrong forum too.. I'm impressed...
I had it on for an hour and returned to Android it's pretty pants tbh....
Oh and this is in this forum why exactly???
GNééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééééé
WM7 it poor
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I'm not sure if I was a little too cocky after trying most of the WM2003 versions, and SE, all via OSImageTool (except SE) and the SD card flashing method; or I just screwed up, but I did it in a way I haven't read about here (and I've been reading here for a loong time .
I was trying to cook up ROM version 4.02.04 in my own kitchen (more like hotplate), and it appeared to go well. I had (have) wallaby bootloader 5.15 come up, and I go ahead and update from SD card as usual, sos I don't get myself locked out with a PITA version of bootloader, and it looked good and normal. Rebooted, no backlight, which has happened temporarily (1st reboot) before. Backlight doesn't come on. Ever.
Missing splash screen. Instead, I have a black screen, one flash from the backlight or so, with red
g324e4
r6.25.02
4.02.04
in the lower right corner. Ok. Regular welcome screen (which, I've been through so many times, I could kill the person who decided that it needs to come up after every (or any!) cold boot). Then today screen looks normal, with no operator branding, still no backlight. Or sound.
Also have no cell signal icon at the top; instead it's like a network disconnected icon.
Start button brings up programs & settings, somewhat like normal. However settings doesn't have any power, backllight, or device information icons. (maybe missing something else I'm not thinking of, also). The Phone applet in control panel makes it look like it just rebooted, backlight flashes, get the red version info in the right, and I'm back to the today screen.
About half the apps work, but most disturbingly, activesync is not one of them - it complains its missing repllog (or one of it's components), so I can't get any files to my phone that way. None of the custom apps I had tried to put in there (if I tried that, I don't recall now) are in there, so no regedit or better file explorer... If I tried to put anything in there. By now I can't remember. I'm not sure I did, this may have been going to be a dry run sort of thing, then I'd add my BS if it all worked. I think.
Word crashes w/ no message, excel works fine. ?
There is no repllog in \windows as far as I can see, but I don't recall if you can see it with regular file explorer anyway. PIE works, contacts doesn't, calendar doesn't, notes does, mplayer does, but says it has no codec, and the little sound player doesn't go.
I can setup network connections in the control panel, but they never appear as an option on the top disconnected icon to connect to.
Beam says it works, but it doesn't really. looking at the XDA with a webcam that's been tweaked w/ no IR filter, it would appear the IR led is a very very dim 'on'. But it never talks to anything else, which is no surprise, because it's _really_ dim. TV remote blinds the camera in comparison.
I still have wallaby bootloader 5.15, and it ACTS like I can flash the ROM to the unit, it takes 5 minutes or so, does the counting thing, makes me cold boot, but then returns to the single flash, black with red version 'splash' screen, and time to go through welcome again.
I've tried OSImageTool with wm2002, 2003, various versions, both nbf and nb1, and no change. Tried XDArit (old) various versions, and even when it wrote the image to the SD card without crashing, it acted the same. Tried XDArit (old) with wallaby-patch.nb2, and wallaby-patch-tool.nb2, then all the above again - no change.
Tried bootloader -> SD card & back again of the same rom, which looks like it does something, but leaves me in the same place. I've screwed with all the files in the \windows directrory, hoping that an initial-setup type app just didn't fire, but that didn't help. Only about half the apps ran anyway. And it's missing a bunch of the stuff that's usually in there. (like the file for activesync) . the startup folder has poutlook, and that's it.
Uhm.. Oh, no green "I'm a gsm phone" led blinging every 3 seconds; going into the phone via start menu ( hardbutton for bringing phone up !work), brings up the dialpad, but anything I try to dial immedialy comes back with Call Ended, in a second or less. But on the happy side, the bootloader reports GSM (and everything else) is happy.
So I'm stumped. FWIW, I dumprom'ed the bad rom file, and it has repllog, and more than a few other files in the rom that don't appear to be in \windows. setup4.sh tells me
no operator rom found
xip regions not found: 81b00000=XDA_DEVELOPERS2, 81400000=EXAPPS, 817c0000=MISC
please extract parts manually.
and never sticks the rom.nb1 in cfg, so I think somehow.. I dunno know, but it's not good. I can run the dumprom on the err, deadly.nb1 (named after the fact) & that's where I see the repllog & all the \windows stuff.
So any help would be REALLY appriciated..!!! I don't understand why it's not using my new (proven good) ROM images via SD card flash; I can't beam any files to it or get online to get any tools t help poke around... I'm at a loss.
But at least i have my bootloader. ;0 and the welcome screen, and excel.
It's just very dark, and no one calls me.
I'm thinking if they did call me, they might ask if
I didn't get customrom tools mixed with demokitchen tools or something, or maybe old versions of files and newer versions mixed together, because that's the only thing i can think of why
I'm where i am right now. That and not trying to split the rom up after i made it before flashing to make sure that all worked well. Hindsight 20-20 and all that.
TIA, Brooks
1 more thing...
I forgot, even though wallaby bootloader gives me the a-ok on te SD card, and it writes to it & reads from it (i assume, I haven't broken out the hex editor to look at the SD card), WM2003 that's half on my ppc phone doesn't recognize that there is any media in the slot when it's there. I read something about people doing a trick to help fix their radio stack by making a hidden directory on the sd card, like 5547, with the radio upgrade files in it. My device doesn't realize anything is there, so I don't believe that would work in my case. (I was thinkging maybe stick a bunch of missing files, and./or reg entries in there, and it would get past my devices current reluctance to not be retarded, but it's too retarded for that trick. Nor can I email, SMS, or MMS any files from someplace else to myself.. ):
Oh well, the vibra ring wasn't working, so that gives me an excuse to take it apart while it's not working anyway. Is the motor easily accessable if you take the back off? I wasn't going to molest it that much until I could get a new bettery, but hey, if the patien't already in the hospital, might as well do a little surgery of convenience while it can't complain..
fin. Looking too hard for a simpler solution.. + SD card fix
Stuipd card reader more or less bit the dust at some point in the whole process. It's been kinda flaky, but it seemed to work when it worked. It just didn't REALLY let OSImageTool or XDArit write the correct image to the card.
I don't know when I got the clue, but I finally came to the conclusion that the wallaby was working fine, it was some other problem. So basically, I ended up getting my corrupted ROM onto the SD card (testing it out in bootloader, to see if the bootloader acted like it was doing the right thing.. it acted like it, too..), then "re-writing" the image on the card with a new one from my desktop to flash back to the wallaby. Except my desktop wasn't writing the correct thing, maybe not even anything. So I flashed the corrupt image over itself each time I was trying a "different" ROM/whatever. No wonder the .nb2 files didn't seem to make any difference. duh
Anyway, new SD card reader, everything is swell. It even lets me use the panasonic SD card format utility to bring my otherwise unformatable/useless SD card back to a state that windows agrees is a good 'disk'.
Yeah, so all those SD cards that become non-functional after you use them to flash/backup your ROM simply have got some crap written to track 0, that makes it so it no longer has the FAT filesystem windows expects. Then if you try to format it in windows, for whatever reason, windows can't write to that area (reserverd for SD card specification information, whatever that is), and says the disk is bad. Or can't be formatted. Get the panasonic utility, and it writes good SD info there, and its as good as new. Google SDFormatter, you'll find it. Windows only.
Am I going mad or missing something. :shock: It appears that the phone functionality of the Atom is not as good as the mini. With the mini I could use the phone keypad to type a name to find the contact, select it and then open contact details in the phone book. I could press the centre button to open up the contact details and then select which number I wanted to dial. Once I dialled a number I could go back to the contact card and choose another number.
The mini also allowed you to go to the speed dial by pressing the left button or right button for call history.
These features have disappeared on the Atom. If am correct then this is a backward step. I thought the WM5 is supposed to be an improvement. :x
Am I the only one missing these features or am I missing something in the set up.
Is there a work around this or an application I can purchase? Any help would be appreciated.
Hi, I think you will not find many people owning an Atom in this forum...
However I was thinking to buy one, when I decided NOT to do so because of some limitations associated to the phone, T9 and phonepad... a colleague of mine bought one, though.
The phone app is not WM5, it's custom software by the phone manufacturer, that's why they are different. There are threads that tell how to install phonepad (a HTC proprietary app) on non-HTC devices (search for "phonepad" at www.eten-users.net) but beware that this is not legal. Alternatives are discussed here: http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t71549.html
BTW: did you find any way to switch the atom off (completely, I mean)? The manual says you cannot. How is it possible to change the SIM card, then?
Thanks for your reply. I though I was going mad. I am not sure what you mean by turning it off. I havent tried changing the sim card. I just turn the power button off. But it amy be still on in the background.
Yes, if you press the power button the display turns into standby. It is still on, though (and the RAM drains battery). On my S200, keeping the power button pressed will allow you to switch it off completely (a cold boot is then necessary like after a soft reset).
To change the SIM you need to remove the battery, but my friend is afraid to do so unless the device is switched off completely. According to the manual, however, you cannot do this. So I was wondering if it's risky to remove the battery while the device is in standby.
I just took my sim card out and put it back again. All it did was a soft reboot and I was up and running again. No data lost. Like most of these devices it has a built in battery to keep the memory intact when the main battery goes flat or is replace.
XSNRGACT said:
I just took my sim card out and put it back again. All it did was a soft reboot and I was up and running again. No data lost. Like most of these devices it has a built in battery to keep the memory intact when the main battery goes flat or is replace.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Windows Mobile 5 uses permanent storage so no backup battery is required! You can take out the battery for as long as you like.
I know it stores data on permanent storage, but can I take out the battery without previously shutting the device down?
hi
can't format the MicroDrive with the FORMAT MICRODRIVE TOOL
give me , The microdrive cannot be Accessed
HELP PLZ
tnx david
Did you tried the "Recover microdrive" option? (there are two possibilities - format or recover microdrive). Anyway, this seems to be a quite common problem, unfortunately...
thank you very match
it is working..
tried the "Recover microdrive
Yes i tried the "Recover microdrive ,it not help
tnx david
Help for FAT Corruption on MicroDrive
I experienced same Prob's in the past and was struggeling to get this fixed.
Switch off Device by pressing On/Off Button for several seconds.
when Off, take out the battery for about 30 seconds or so, then re-insert the Battery, switch on Ameo/Athena again by pressing On/Off for some seconds. After that, Microdrive should reappear....
next steps....
First: I recovered my lost data with Ac[email protected] by connecting my T-Mobile Ameo (DE) via WM5Storage and USB Connection to my WinXP-based Laptop. In most cases the Directory names are lost, but the DataFiles were recovered perfectly in shape.
Second: after having recovered the Contend of my MDrive, I reformated the Microdrive via WinXP Explorer right-click menu 'Format'. Choose FAT32 as Format, do NOT use quick format, as it will not really hit all sectors with reformat.
Third: After Soft-Reset on the Ameo/Athena go to all Applications and set configuration to NOT storing anything on MicroDrive. Use SD-Card or Device Mem instead.
Forth: Switch off Device by pressing On/Off Button for several seconds.
when Off, take out the battery for about 30 seconds or so, then re-insert the Battery, switch on Ameo/Athena again by pressing On/Off for some seconds.
Well, you are now done.
You may now reconfigure any Application to use Microdrive for Storage, but do it Step by Step. Until Now, I can not tell,if any and/or which Application had impact in the past. I reactivate step by step, 1 App per week, to check...
...Until now, my MicroDrive is perfectly in a healthy state...
AND Very important !!! It looks like the Build-in Microdrive Format Tool does not work correctly. Low level checks after formating with this tool did show problems with the FAT-Tables. some tools show FAT12 (which can not address 8GB fully), some show FAT16 (Can address 8GB, but is not supported from most OS), some show FAT32 (which is best choise for that size)
SO, my conclusion is to NOT use MicoDrive Format Tool at all....
Till now, it's paying off for me....
Update from years later......
some additional infos: To prevent ocassional corruption look a likes(see below), disable any auto startup routines from Navigation Software(e.g. TomTom, Navigon) to be found on SD-Card or elsewhere and mainly located in Dir called 2577. Those may interfere with the initialisation of the MD and then, Directory of the MD shows some very strange File and directory names.
If you prevent the autostarts, after switching the device totally off(holding Power button some seconds) and switch on again, this will recover to the original Data, Names und Files on the MD.
I found this, due to the fact, that after this corruption look a like, the Memory Page of Taskmanager still showed the original number of used space on the MD. so I started to do some try and error.....
Well, taking both steps, Format and disable Autorun, I haven't had a corruption sign since now more than one year....
UweWeber said:
I experienced same Prob's in the past and was struggeling to get this fixed.
Switch off Device by pressing On/Off Button for several seconds.
when Off, take out the battery for about 30 seconds or so, then re-insert the Battery, switch on Ameo/Athena again by pressing On/Off for some seconds. After that, Microdrive should reappear....
next steps....
First: I recovered my lost data with [email protected] by connecting my T-Mobile Ameo (DE) via WM5Storage and USB Connection to my WinXP-based Laptop. In most cases the Directory names are lost, but the DataFiles were recovered perfectly in shape.
Second: after having recovered the Contend of my MDrive, I reformated the Microdrive via WinXP Explorer right-click menu 'Format'. Choose FAT32 as Format, do NOT use quick format, as it will not really hit all sectors with reformat.
Third: After Soft-Reset on the Ameo/Athena go to all Applications and set configuration to NOT storing anything on MicroDrive. Use SD-Card or Device Mem instead.
Forth: Switch off Device by pressing On/Off Button for several seconds.
when Off, take out the battery for about 30 seconds or so, then re-insert the Battery, switch on Ameo/Athena again by pressing On/Off for some seconds.
Well, you are now done.
You may now reconfigure any Application to use Microdrive for Storage, but do it Step by Step. Until Now, I can not tell,if any and/or which Application had impact in the past. I reactivate step by step, 1 App per week, to check...
...Until now, my MicroDrive is perfectly in a healthy state...
AND Very important !!! It looks like the Build-in Microdrive Format Tool does not work correctly. Low level checks after formating with this tool did show problems with the FAT-Tables. some tools show FAT12 (which can not address 8GB fully), some show FAT16 (Can address 8GB, but is not supported from most OS), some show FAT32 (which is best choise for that size)
SO, my conclusion is to NOT use MicoDrive Format Tool at all....
Till now, it's paying off for me....
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UweWeber,
This is a good post. Thanks for your good effort.
This [email protected] thingy. Is it a software that runs on the PC side? Where can I get this software?
Keep up the good work, mate.
Great "step by step".
So am I getting it right that for people who don't yet have a problem with their Ameo MD, to prevent problems they should reformat at FAT32 in XP? ie start the step by step from step 2.
Great!
What Wm5 storage version are you using (1.73, 1.75,...) ?
Currupted MD - No Way
i'm using V1.73.
I would not recommend to format perfect working MDrive. Think that it's formated correctly in Factory.
Mine has worked fine in the beginning, until..., I have reformated it, because that looked faster to me than deleting 12000 files by hand from it. That was the point, where trouble started....
eaglesteve said:
UweWeber,
This is a good post. Thanks for your good effort.
This [email protected] thingy. Is it a software that runs on the PC side? Where can I get this software?
Keep up the good work, mate.
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check out http://www.active-undelete.com
This piece of code has protected my a.. several times...it's worth the $$
and it's running on PC. Please check Options, not sure if all available versions support Removable Media.
I personally use Enterprise Network Edition V5.5.000
Uweweber,
Great post. This is the one part of the X7501 (WM6) I felt was the greatest let down.
Btw, I found V1.8 at http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/wm5torage.shtml.
I was hoping to make clear to all (and to me) your instruction to " go to all Applications and set configuration to NOT storing anything on MicroDrive."
1) Did you mean go to 'Settings', 'System', 'Storage Manager' then select the Mirdodrive (Dsk1) then properties then unmount?
2) Do you now always use WM5Storage and USB to load or remove items from the Microdrive?
3) Have you ever not been able to open 'Storage Manager' - damn thing won't open now - even after a warm reset
Thanks for the tips - here''s hoping!
X7501 -- MicroDrive corruption
Fixerboy,
never told to to do anything like...unmounting MDrive...Ok. it's an Application, yes, ok - Addition to the post (UweWeber) please do not tell WM5Storage to not use Microdrive....
BTW: after Weeks of testing, no Application was the source of corruption, it was just the wrong formated MDrive...since it was formated in FAT32, no more probs...
Just updated now to WM 6 , no probs ....
Hi
Your post (I don't know why don't read earlier?) may solve my problem.
I lost many times my data on MD, but I tryed format with internal tool. More than half year I only use MD for nothing because really problematic, but me a need a storege for music, pictures, videos.
I try again use MD with your format tutorial.
So I thank your post
Hello
As i gave the title : HTC HD2 a lot of problems.
I have htc hd2 with official ROM 1.66 french, more than 75 mb free memory on the device.
SD card = 16 go
before writting here i tried a lot of combination!
1-formated my sd card by the pc (fat32 and sctor size is 16 or 32) or by the phone but i have the sames problems!
2-i did a flash and hard reset many times.
first, when trying to copy to my HTC HD2 using activsynchro or mindows mobile centre a lot of file can not be copied to the device with a error message from windows 7 such as device not connected. (false message because device is connected because i can browse the folders inside the device)
Second, i downloaded some correcting cabs from this site, like zoomer and bsb tweaks wich i can not install, the device tell me that installation is impossible either on the device nor on the SD card..
Third, i copied some photos in bmp format but i cannot see them on the phone.
forth, tomtom 7.918 can not see more than one map on the SD card (i have france and WE but he can not see both of them
I can continue to write here for more than 3 pages of bugs and problem with this device without speaking about the intelligence of htc to put the reset buttom below the cover of the battery, since it blocs every 5 min, the cover is never in its place
I have a kaiser and a touch cruise and i was very satisfied from htc but with this gadget (450€) i am starting to change my mind
there will be any solution?
Thank for help if any
if you notice carefully, most of the bugs you mention seem to be directly related to your sd card. i have a strong feeling that your device is fine but your sd card is faulty/fake. search this forum for more threads about problems caused by fake sd cards. i am using a 8 gb sandisk card since my kaiser and it worked fine in the kaiser as well as in the hd2.
Doppler2008 said:
Hello
As i gave the title : HTC HD2 a lot of problems.
I have htc hd2 with official ROM 1.66 french, more than 75 mb free memory on the device.
SD card = 16 go
before writting here i tried a lot of combination!
1-formated my sd card by the pc (fat32 and sctor size is 16 or 32) or by the phone but i have the sames problems!
2-i did a flash and hard reset many times.
first, when trying to copy to my HTC HD2 using activsynchro or mindows mobile centre a lot of file can not be copied to the device with a error message from windows 7 such as device not connected. (false message because device is connected because i can browse the folders inside the device)
Second, i downloaded some correcting cabs from this site, like zoomer and bsb tweaks wich i can not install, the device tell me that installation is impossible either on the device nor on the SD card..
Third, i copied some photos in bmp format but i cannot see them on the phone.
forth, tomtom 7.918 can not see more than one map on the SD card (i have france and WE but he can not see both of them
I can continue to write here for more than 3 pages of bugs and problem with this device without speaking about the intelligence of htc to put the reset buttom below the cover of the battery, since it blocs every 5 min, the cover is never in its place
I have a kaiser and a touch cruise and i was very satisfied from htc but with this gadget (450€) i am starting to change my mind
there will be any solution?
Thank for help if any
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You know if you put stuff on your SD card being connected to the computer, I think you need to "eject" the phone prior to see the files on the mobile/ its like this when i setup a USB connection as opposed to "active sync" or "windows mobile connection".
Anyway, yes lot of your problems seems to be not about HTC but other things...
However, yes, completely dumb design to have put the reset there especially as we have to use it very often.
I also find really stupid that "POWER ON" button on the front... What's happening if you completely turn off the device? Well it can be turned on by mistake in the pocket (happened lot of times to me). Then it "start", make some loud noise, then goes to the "pin unblocking code".
Well done, HTC, if the device is off, in the pocket, its possible to turn it on, make noise, block it by mistake...
dumbs...
Also its not possible by default to put vibration in the same time than ringing for incoming calls... how dumb, especially when this extremely loud device "outside" is becoming "quietly deadly" in the pocket (or quietly brillant :/ )
Or that we can't hear it when it's in the pocket in that leather HTC bag-
etc...
ActiveSync has never been very good for copying files... It's slow and sometimes fails to transfer certain files in my experience from using it with a Trinity, Diamond, Diamond2 and HD2... Use the disk transfer mode and you shouldn't have any trouble...
My Tomtom can see both of my maps so I don't know what you're doing wrong...
All the little problems I had with my HD2 vanished when I finally decided to flash a cooked ROM so youmight want to give that a go...
And not that it makes any difference, but I see that you're an SFR subscriber, so if you got the phone from them, you probably got the phone for less than 100€ like myself...
NeoGreendawg said:
ActiveSync has never been very good for copying files... It's slow and sometimes fails to transfer certain files in my experience from using it with a Trinity, Diamond, Diamond2 and HD2... Use the disk transfer mode and you shouldn't have any trouble...
My Tomtom can see both of my maps so I don't know what you're doing wrong...
All the little problems I had with my HD2 vanished when I finally decided to flash a cooked ROM so youmight want to give that a go...
And not that it makes any difference, but I see that you're an SFR subscriber, so if you got the phone from them, you probably got the phone for less than 100€ like myself...
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hello,
my phone is not done buy SFR but i bought it
Tomtom can see one carte one time, if i put them together, he does not do
I finally returned to my old sandisk 2Gb carte but i still have some problems and phone blocks and i need to do a reset!
Some things I have discovered about the DVP:
If you turn the dvp off and pull the microSd card out and start the phone back up then:
1. The phone will still work 100% without the microSD card. It just won’t remember anything after a reboot. This includes settings, typed words, etc.
2. If you take the microsd card out and do a hard reset, the phone won’t go through the normal setup. It will boot straight into WP7 without any tmobile customization. You basically get the Vanila version of WP7- complete stock.
3. Somehow after removing the microsd card, I was able to get web2go to work for a quick second loading up desktop google.com- after that, no other pages worked. I was forced to the page telling me to upgrade. No go on Web2Go here.
Removal of the sd card isn’t just some regular sticker you can put back on after you’re done. It’s some kind of painted sticker that shreds – think of it like a broken Christmas ornament where the paint is stripped. You bend the sticker, the stickers’ paint cracks.
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Edit: after poking around a little more ive discovered:
1. DVP does not need a microSd card at all to be 100% functional. It operates without one completely fine in terms of performance, speed, etc.
This was how I tested it:
a. Put mSD card in.
b. Hard rest (factory reset under settings) the device
c. When the device restarts and goes to the blackout/dead screen, remove the battery
d. Pull the mSD card out.
e. Put battery back in
f. Push and hold power button to turn on and allow device to complete the hard reset.
It will begin with the full setup WP7 installation. All tmobile apps will be restored. Everything is the same except that no microSD card will be present; I have found this to not be hindering anything as far as my testing goes. Everything works including data, wifi and calls. Im pretty sure music storage would be a problem, but I didn’t test downloading more than 2 songs in market.
The microSD card is just storage. The device works 100% without it. Yes eventually you’ll be hindered by the amount of stuff you can put on the dvp, still that is a storage problem.
I have no knowledge how the dvp integrates with the sd card. But I guess it must be important since we aren’t to remove it.
BTW, after removal of the mSD card from the DVP, my computer can’t seem to recognize it. I can’t even format it since it can’t be detected. It’s so odd. I’ll try to dig more to see if I can make the mSD card useful in some other way.
Let me know what you guys think.
More Interesting things:
Without the microSd card, the device reports
405.03MB total
336.96MB Available
if my math is correct,
68.28MB is used to install the entire WP7 OS + some tmobile apps.
How cool!
What i dont understand is if there is internal storage (its obviously not RAM since it can now remember things after a reboot), why doesnt dell use it to store the OS and use microSD card to store apps, music, etc.??
That's awesome and gives us more hope for further digging. Were you able to use the device as storage device with the reg tweaks and see the folders? If so, how much capacity does Windows drive property show?
to get that sd card to show up on computer just format it using a dumb nokia phone
lemonspeakers said:
More Interesting things:
Without the microSd card, the device reports
405.03MB total
336.96MB Available
if my math is correct,
68.28MB is used to install the entire WP7 OS + some tmobile apps.
How cool!
What i dont understand is if there is internal storage (its obviously not RAM since it can now remember things after a reboot), why doesnt dell use it to store the OS and use microSD card to store apps, music, etc.??
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The OS is probably stored in ROM. Interestingly, the DVP is listed by phonearena.com as having 1GM of ROM, which is more than almost all other WP7 devices currently released. Of course, you have to take those specs with a grain of salt since phonearena.com also lists RAM as 512MB.
@notebookgrail,
you're gonna have to link me to the registry tweaks. id love to check it out!
ft55555 said:
The OS is probably stored in ROM. Interestingly, the DVP is listed by phonearena.com as having 1GM of ROM, which is more than almost all other WP7 devices currently released. Of course, you have to take those specs with a grain of salt since phonearena.com also lists RAM as 512MB.
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It is early in the life of this OS, so EVERYTHING needs salt. The DVP may indeed have 512MB of RAM; this hasn't been conclusively disproven.
lemonspeakers said:
@notebookgrail,
you're gonna have to link me to the registry tweaks. id love to check it out!
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http://blogs.technet.com/b/juanand/...ying-with-windows-phone-7-as-usb-storage.aspx
we need to find out how to use hardware buttons to do hard reset; if you are unlucky like me, when you replaced the sdcard and it went bad, there is no way for you to pop another card in and do hard reset on that card
htc and samsung phones all have a bootloader hard reset menu accessible during boot via combination of key presses, hopefully venue pro does have one
try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
bbowman said:
try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
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doesnt work. it will tell you to plug ur phone into usb + computer. The only way to exit that screen is to remove battery.
bbowman said:
try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
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would you try it yourself before making such suggestion? i did every possible key combination with the volume and camera keys, all come up empty... and i really wish i dont need to do so for the qwerty keyboard
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would you try it yourself before making such suggestion? i did every possible key combination with the volume and camera keys, all come up empty... and i really wish i dont need to do so for the qwerty keyboard
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when I do that button combo on my DVP I see a "plug the phone into your PC" graphic. when I do so, Zune pops up and give me an error message (related to another issue) that it is unable to restore my phone. It looks like somehow Zune has an important role in performing the hardware master reset.
You don't see anything like this?
bbowman said:
when I do that button combo on my DVP I see a "plug the phone into your PC" graphic. when I do so, Zune pops up and give me an error message (related to another issue) that it is unable to restore my phone. It looks like somehow Zune has an important role in performing the hardware master reset.
You don't see anything like this?
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thats not the hard reset menu. htc has the bootloader option to perform factory reset in the case of the OS would not bootup, and also the option to connect the device to pc to perform restore (venue pro has this)
but since zune does not allow backup, the restore option is useless
If you set up your phone with a windows live account it gives you the option to remotely send a command erase your phone data and reset to factory defaults.
You need a windows live account and go to the windows live home screen.
mouseover "windows live" in the top left, then>devices>find this phone>erase
sureloch said:
You need a windows live account and go to the windows live home screen.
mouseover "windows live" in the top left, then>devices>find this phone>erase
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again, you need the phone to be functional to use this feature
im talking about device hangs at boot or boot looping, that requires hard reset without the OS being functional
theclueless said:
again, you need the phone to be functional to use this feature
im talking about device hangs at boot or boot looping, that requires hard reset without the OS being functional
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Ok, I didn't realize you had that serious of a problem. For some reason I thought you were trying to initialize a new sd card. The reset key combo will come out eventually.
sureloch said:
Ok, I didn't realize you had that serious of a problem. For some reason I thought you were trying to initialize a new sd card. The reset key combo will come out eventually.
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i was able to initiate the 32gb card using the setting->about->reset method when i first got the phone.
after a couple random crashes, the last time it was functional i was browsing the web, then the phone seemed hanged, then kicked me right back to the metro screen, but the phone no longer recognize the sdcard on the about screen; after reboot the phone got stuck on dell screen and would not startup, so i switch back to the original 8gb card, did not work either (boot-loop)
i pulled the card out, and it booted fine without any addition apps, and i try to initiate a reset, pulled battery, insert card, exact same symptoms with respected sdcards
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i was able to initiate the 32gb card using the setting->about->reset method when i first got the phone.
after a couple random crashes, the last time it was functional i was browsing the web, then the phone seemed hanged, then kicked me right back to the metro screen, but the phone no longer recognize the sdcard on the about screen; after reboot the phone got stuck on dell screen and would not startup, so i switch back to the original 8gb card, did not work either (boot-loop)
i pulled the card out, and it booted fine without any addition apps, and i try to initiate a reset, pulled battery, insert card, exact same symptoms with respected sdcards
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I was under the impression that on e a card was initiated it could not be used again in another device...though I did read something about formatting on a Symbian device. When you pull the card that is crashing did you try to restart the device with no card? Try it. After that shut down and put the original card back in