So I keep running into this error...I'm running Cyanogenmod 6.1.1 with the Gingerbread theme on my Aria. And I've downloaded Font Changer Lite and Absolute System Root Tools. Every time it runs the system checks, it comes up with the error that it doesn't have write permissions on the /system folder? How is this possible with a custom ROM that's been NAND unlocked? *confused*
"System partition", exactly. It can't write to that.
tribestros said:
So I keep running into this error...I'm running Cyanogenmod 6.1.1 with the Gingerbread theme on my Aria. And I've downloaded Font Changer Lite and Absolute System Root Tools. Every time it runs the system checks, it comes up with the error that it doesn't have write permissions on the /system folder? How is this possible with a custom ROM that's been NAND unlocked? *confused*
"System partition", exactly. It can't write to that.
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You sure about that NAND unlocked question?
Tell me this, does metamorph work? Does z4root work?
Aria isn't NAND unlocked
Well, am I mistaken in assuming that to install a ROM you have to be NAND unlocked? I also rooted using unrEVOked.
And, idk. NinjaMorph worked.
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No, MetaMorph won't work. It says there's not enough space in /system.
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Well, am I mistaken in assuming that to install a ROM you have to be NAND unlocked? I also rooted using unrEVOked.
And, idk. NinjaMorph worked.
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My understanding of the situation is, yes, you are mistaken. I don't know much about NAND unlocked vs NAND locked or what it even does but, again, from my understanding of things, there is no unlock for the aria...
Edit...come to think of it, i may be confusing S-OFF/on with NAND unlock/lock...unless they're the same thing and, if that's the case, see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814691
and, specifically, see the thread that's linked in the second post of that thread.
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My understanding of the situation is, yes, you are mistaken. I don't know much about NAND unlocked vs NAND locked or what it even does but, again, from my understanding of things, there is no unlock for the aria...
Edit...come to think of it, i may be confusing S-OFF/on with NAND unlock/lock...unless they're the same thing and, if that's the case, see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814691
and, specifically, see the thread that's linked in the second post of that thread.
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Its the same thing
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I was curios to know what too guys enjoy about your nand being unlocked on your evo (if you've done so of course) I like getting rid of the stock apps and being able to boot in recovery and flash a rom on the go so tell me what all you think
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Can you unlock nand without root. And after the last ota update can it be unlocked
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I was curios to know what too guys enjoy about your nand being unlocked on your evo (if you've done so of course) I like getting rid of the stock apps and being able to boot in recovery and flash a rom on the go so tell me what all you think
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NAND unlock is full root. Full root lets you flash custom recoveries, etc.
Plancy said:
Can you unlock nand without root. And after the last ota update can it be unlocked
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NAND unlock IS root. It is the achieving of FULL root. Before NAND unlock we only had a PARTIAL root. If you are full stock, you cannot root the latest OTA. If you are rooted and have the latest OTA, you can NAND unlock.
I notice a lot of people ask that ha ha no root or full root with new update I'm sure there working on it so maybe soon you never know
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Don't really need the NAND, I prefer to keep the phone as close to stock as possible so that everything works. I actually prefer an Unrevoked type of root (The first one) as it leaves the phone as close to stock as possible and allowed us to use wifi tether and still remove apps through recovery. It seems those days are long gone though :/
I think I like the fact that it's my phone. If they want to protect me from me, then I should still have a choice. A simple non adb choice. The hero was a lot more elegant inside and had less resources to draw from. So what do I like about NAND being unlocked? I like the fact that it's my option.
Totally true I live options
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Has anyone experimented with MM yet? I have seen quite a few themes and addons for other handhelds... most have stuff with MetaMorph. We have a growing community, shame there aren't themers out there!
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I can never get the initial setup to finish. Always says not enough system space to extract files or something. Happens with liberated or cm6.
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Has anyone else experimented with MM?
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I believe metamorph tries to write to the system partition, which won't work without an S-OFF (security off) SPL. The Aria SPL is S-ON.
attn1 said:
I believe metamorph tries to write to the system partition, which won't work without an S-OFF (security off) SPL. The Aria SPL is S-ON.
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Well turn it S-OFF!
kaschenberg said:
Well turn it S-OFF!
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How you do that?!?!
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I do all my editing by hand... safer that way, then you know exactly what's happening. You could also create your own zip file with modified textures/images/etc, make it flashable, and then sign it and you wouldn't have to worry about MM.
I've worked on this a few weeks ago with Attn1. It would be better to talk with Metamorph's dev(s) or getting a different SPL, which there is none at the moment. It seems we will need to find a work around allowing us to write to the system partition.
ioft said:
I do all my editing by hand... safer that way, then you know exactly what's happening. You could also create your own zip file with modified textures/images/etc, make it flashable, and then sign it and you wouldn't have to worry about MM.
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I agree, if we can get the dev(s) to create a version that's can be installed from recovery it could work. However I'm no dev and have no knowlegde of the inner works but it sounds good.
I've done a fair few flashes with my Desire and always found it quite easy to follow and do, but I am so, so, so confused about how to go about attacking the HTC Desire.
Essentially, I want to root it and install a custom ROM (maybe change a radio, that's it). However, there is no set of instructions in any one thread, it's all over the place.
So far, i've managed to permroot my brothers phone using Visionary. Now, the next step is getting Clockwork Recovery. However, there seems to be two version 2.x (installed by ROM manager) and version 3.x. Apparently the former doesn't work for CM7... but I cannot find how to actually get Clockwork 3.x installed (easily...).
What are the most popular DesireHD ROMs and do they all require Clockwork 3.x? Also, what is S-Off... and do I need it!?
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
jkoljo said:
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
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Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
jkoljo said:
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
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I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
alex98uk said:
Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
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Possibly like this one? search is your friend
alex98uk said:
I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
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If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
SAPPH1RE said:
If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
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Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
alex98uk said:
Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
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Simple answer, no.
Please try following the advice you are being given and search the development forum, if your not willing/able to devote the time to reading up on S-OFF and installing CM7 please leave well alone and save us all a little time
To be honest I think that dhd is quite easy to root. You have one click tool in stickies so really a monkey could do it.
I'm attempting to root my girlfriends galaxy s and it's really complicated. Download this download that check if you have 3button startup, get Odin and so on....
Desire HD is fun to root...
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One Click-tool? For the latest update you have to downgrade,that looks not so easy?
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Yeah, downgrading makes it a bit harder, true. But after downgrading it is a breeze.
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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Visionary will not do it, but I might make a tool to handle all those downgrade commands. I am busy now, however, so you should not wait for it.
magnum73 said:
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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I wouldn't hold your breathe, whilst there is a simple-ish downgrade route the chances of anyone going to the great effort of needlessly finding and exploiting a new security flaw are remote. Anyone desperate for root will probably take the downgrade route and anyone unable to grasp the steps involved would probably be better served by a stock rom
I'm looking forward for an automatic tool to downgrade...Jkoljo
I want to get rid of that irritating bootsound and have a new bootscreen...
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Just use the manual method, I am busy, so it might take a while before I can start developing such tool..
I have time and I am afraid to do something wrong...
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I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
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I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
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Tech support, without root access you are unlikely to do anything terminal to your DHD software wise, so that should limit your tech support to hardware issues. With root access ham fisted people are returning phones with user inflicted software problems
So I installed the new Sense 3.0 Fusion ROM and it's awesome. I couldn't figure out how to edit the app shortcuts that appeared on the lockscreen, though, so I posted over on a different forum and the admin answered it for me. I felt dumb, however, that someone like me - and like all of us I'm sure - who consider themselves somewhat tech-savvy sometimes can't figure out the solution to seemingly easy questions. The answer, by the way, is to go into the personalize menu then choose lockscreen and hit settings -- I know it sounds dumb, and I thought I had already tried that. My point is, sometimes we're too afraid to ask questions that seem dumb so we never do. I'll do my best to answer your questions, and remember, Google and xda are your friends. Maybe you can even post fun tricks you've found and we can all help each other a little. If this is a stupid idea then I'll just let it fade off into oblivion...
Q: what is the origin of the word "kang"?
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Q: what is the origin of the word "kang"?
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I believe it originated due to a dev named KingKlick. He was notoriously called out for stealing other peoples work and naming it his, thus the CM team created the work "Kang" due to him.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's it.
Q: are there any dangers in using PD15IMG.zip?
Q2: I see people having issues where recovery won't mount system or cache partitions, which pretty much bricks their phone. Is there any indication to what causes this, and how can i avoid those issues?
I dont no of any danger flashing the PD15IMG.zip. I used it on a MT4G that I was selling (due to cheap silicone) and it put the phone to out of the box Stock. Good as New.
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I dont no of any danger flashing the PD15IMG.zip. I used it on a MT4G that I was selling (due to cheap silicone) and it put the phone to out of the box Stock. Good as New.
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Can I ask what rooting method you used?
kimbernator said:
Can I ask what rooting method you used?
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I used visionary 14 with Root.Rar file to acheive Perma-Root. I have also rooted using the g-free method (the semi-automated one) and have went back to stock using the PD15IMG.zip as well, with no problems.
You've used pd15img from both rooting methods? I only ask because I thought I read somewhere that pd15img can have issues with the rooting method that didn't use gfree. But if you've done it then no worries
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Q: are there any dangers in using PD15IMG.zip?
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PD15IMG.zip can be various things, I've seen it as taking you back to 100% stock and as flashing a new radio. Going back to stock with it I've read is easy enough (and I've done it once and I rooted with visionary/unlocker method), and I hear warnings all the time about just putting it on the sdcard and booting into bootloader to change the radio but it worked fine for me.
As with everything read the entire, or most of, forum before along anything you're not comfortable with.
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I have used PD15IMG on a visionary root as well with no issues.
A question that I did have and felt like a goof asking it was not being able to get into my recovery by holding down volume down + power. The issue was that it would constantly load the PD15IMG when I tried this and would not allow me the option of booting into recovery because I kept that file on there anmed PD15IMG.
Once I took it off of the sd card, I was able to boot straight into recovery without issue. My workaround now, because I like to keep it on my sd card in case of emergency is simply keeping root explorer on there and it allows me to change the name of the file to whatever I want, allowing a boot into recovery by the v+p method and If I need it, I can just rename it through root explorer and it will load and put me back to stock!
And FWIW, I think this thread is a fantastic idea!
My noob question is I want to flash different roms but they say ext 3/4. Do I have to partition my sd card this way and can I do this with CW recovery? I don't want to lose info on my card. I am gfree rooted and running faux froyo kernal. Thx.
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warmonger26 said:
My noob question is I want to flash different roms but they say ext 3/4. Do I have to partition my sd card this way and can I do this with CW recovery? I don't want to lose info on my card. I am gfree rooted and running faux froyo kernal. Thx.
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If you partition and SD card you will lose everything.
i also would advice against using ROM Manager for it. I'd use ADB if it were my phone...
http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-manually-partition-your-sd-card-for-android-apps2sd/
warmonger26 said:
My noob question is I want to flash different roms but they say ext 3/4. Do I have to partition my sd card this way and can I do this with CW recovery? I don't want to lose info on my card. I am gfree rooted and running faux froyo kernal. Thx.
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If u have cwr 3.0.2.4 u dnt have to worry bout ext 3/4,it handles both.. Ext 3-froyo/Ext 4-gingerbread...
Mytouch 4g-White
Root Method-gfree
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CWR-3.0.2.4
Rom-Royalginger v2.0
Kernel-ckisgen-smartass-v1.1
Can anyone help me with this WiFi problem I'm having. I posted a topic called "wifi error" I jus want to know if I can fix this or should I call tmobile and get another mt4g. Please yall.
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Hey I wanted to ask if anyone's WiFi says error then a constant reboot happens. I've already took the battery out. I thought it was jus on the ROM I was using at the time, but this is three roms later, and now it says CAN'T SCAN FOR NETWORKS. and keeps toggling on and off. Can anyone help me. I Will send you the logcat if needed.
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Hey I wanted to ask if anyone's WiFi says error then a constant reboot happens. I've already took the battery out. I thought it was jus on the ROM I was using at the time, but this is three roms later, and now it says CAN'T SCAN FOR NETWORKS. and keeps toggling on and off. Can anyone help me. I Will send you the logcat if needed.
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If you are completely wiping when you install ROMs and don't use Titanium to restore backups I would try flashing the radio (at your own risk of course) or running the PD15IMG.zip and reverting to stock. If you aren't wiping completely do it, if you are using titanium know that it can cause errors when restoring data.
Thanks bro I'm going to try and flash the radio. I'm currently running the fusion ROM is there a particular radio u recommend or should o flash the one I'm using.
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Flashing A New Radio
If I wanted to flash the latest radio for the mt4g, do I need adb to do so? Or could I just put it on the root of my sdcard and boot up to the hboot screen?
Well for people who had a brick caused by VISIONary that was fixed by flashing the leaked Gingerbread update, I think I have an idea that might work on rooting it.
Why not replace the stock bootloader and recoveries that come in the PC10IMG.zip file with Clockworkmod recovery and the Engineering SPL. That way you can have S-OFF, which allows you to use to use Gingerbreak to root and CWM recovery which allows you to flash a different ROM on the G2.
Does this make sense, or did someone already try this and failed? I got the idea from the method I used to root my G1.
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Well for people who had a brick caused by VISIONary that was fixed by flashing the leaked Gingerbread update, I think I have an idea that might work on rooting it.
Why not replace the stock bootloader and recoveries with Clockworkmod recovery and the Engineering SPL. That way you can have S-OFF, which allows you to use to use Gingerbreak to root and CWM recovery which allows you to flash a different ROM on the G2.
Does this make sense, or did someone already try this and failed? I got the idea from the method I used to root my G1.
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Best bet to find out if this would work or not is to ask the guys over at #G2ROOT irc.
And this doesn't really belong in the dev section, should be in Q&A
CRAP!!! I hit the wrong link! Sorry, moving my post.
And where's the link to the #G2ROOT IRC channel?
If I'm not mistaken, there's no way to get thoes items on the phone as the package won't pass signatue validation.
If we had thoes items, then we wouldn't need to root the leak rom, we could simply bypass it by flashing a new pre-rooted rom..
Perhaps you misunderstood how the process works?
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CRAP!!! I hit the wrong link! Sorry, moving my post.
And where's the link to the #G2ROOT IRC channel?
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Can't provide a link, just use your preferred IRC client
wilnotdie said:
If I'm not mistaken, there's no way to get thoes items on the phone as the package won't pass signatue validation.
If we had thoes items, then we wouldn't need to root the leak rom, we could simply bypass it by flashing a new pre-rooted rom..
Perhaps you misunderstood how the process works?
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perhaps i have, but what exactly is hindering the problem? did htc patch the hole in the firmware that allowed scotty2 to powercycle the eMMC chip?
Do u know what an md5 sum is? If anything is modified, even ONE BYTE, the sum changes. That is how u know if a file is corrupted/tampered. Signature verification is the same thing different name. The fact that you can't change the recovery because its not rooted means that you cannot bypass the sig verification. End of story. This idea will never work.
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Do u know what an md5 sum is? If anything is modified, even ONE BYTE, the sum changes. That is how u know if a file is corrupted/tampered. Signature verification is the same thing different name. The fact that you can't change the recovery because its not rooted means that you cannot bypass the sig verification. End of story. This idea will never work.
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ouch. . .
no need to be harsh.
xsteven77x said:
Do u know what an md5 sum is? If anything is modified, even ONE BYTE, the sum changes. That is how u know if a file is corrupted/tampered. Signature verification is the same thing different name. The fact that you can't change the recovery because its not rooted means that you cannot bypass the sig verification. End of story. This idea will never work.
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Signature verification is not the "same thing different name" -- look up public key cryptography for more information.
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perhaps i have, but what exactly is hindering the problem? did htc patch the hole in the firmware that allowed scotty2 to powercycle the eMMC chip?
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Pretty much yes. I don't remember the exact details....but it was the hole that allowed temp root, which than allowed us to modify the hboot. Giving us s-off, in turn allowing us full access...I think you get the picture.
Or someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Its been a long time since thoes days
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