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Has anyone ever thought about whether it would be possible to increase the ram/upgrade memory in a G1. As outlandish as this might sound.. similar things have been done for a variety of devices.... if possible it would probably be the number one speed booster out there? or are there certain limitations out there that would make that impossible... Anyone ever opened up a G1?
This might be what you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566410
Theres some ram on the g1 that isnt being utilized by default.. this hack, for specific roms, can push the g1 to use more of the rom that it initially comes with. as far as a PHYSICAL upgrade im not too sure how that would work out.. never opened a g1, due to warranty void
This does happen a lot nowadays. Original Xbox's (before v1.6) had extra 'spaces' for RAM chips.
Simple to do, if you can find the right RAM for your device, which was hard enough for the Xbox until a German manufacturer was found.
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Upgrading_Xbox_RAM_HOWTO
Edit: Also remember, this only works if there is an extra 'space,' piggybacking does not work 99% of the time (and I doubt there would be enough space within the housing...)
so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
alec.baldwin said:
so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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no it has to be the same type maybe hero/magic ram would work who knows
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so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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There is nowhere to put it.
Ram and rom come integrated on the same chip: samsung k522f1gacm-a060
You need to find a compatible chip (as mentioned, the one from magic or hero *might* be compatible), you also need to program it with something... which you may need to hack together since there is no such thing as a dream with 256MB ram, etc.
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
alec.baldwin said:
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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Good idea
alec.baldwin said:
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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I never said it wasn't possible. I simply said that what is there must necessarily COME OFF in order to put another one in its place.
And yes, you most definitely CAN program these chips outside the board, as long as you have the right equipment to do so, but the big question is to "program it with WHAT?".
Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
sxfx said:
Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
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As lbcoder has stated, finding a compatible chip isn't the problem.. it's a matter of what do you program onto the chip? Simply replacing the current chip with a blank one wouldn't do anything.
WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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Yea thats the way it would be done. You'd have to hex-edit the dumped rom to address the right amount of memory for the new chip and it should work. I'm certainly not going to be trying this myself but it would be an interesting experiment.
Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Believe it or not guys, my wife can do this. LOL. (I did marry the perfect woman, she also fixes my cars, folds the laundry and gives the best blowjob on earth). I digress <grin>.
If someone wants to donate a couple of bricked phones, I can get the chips swapped out. The issue of hex editing doesn't scare me at all I've been doing that for years, but finding the right addresses could be interesting. I'd probably need help with that as it is a lot different then bipassing a cd check on a video game
i work with embedded devices and here are my 2c about this, but take this lightly, I havent looked at how the G1 is setup on a board yet, nor do I know what hardware it is running.
if there is external ram, then perhaps it is a matter of swapping out the chips, given that they have the same pinout/packaging, etc.. if that was the case, you wouldnt get even another bit of more addressing because to get another bit, another wire is required to address it.
if the ram is internal on the microcontroller, then it would need to be swapped out, and good luck desoldering/soldering a BGA chip by hand. if you manage to find a new MCU with more internal ram to put on, the pinouts would have to be identical or else things might not work. additionally, you would need to have some method to kind of bootstrap the MCU because they typically come blank from the manufacturer.
Ok this is getting interesting... the easiest way to find out is probably contact HTC.. does anyone know someone, or is there a way to contact an engineer... or can anyone look up the specs? If it is using standard ddram by Samsung.. there might be a possibility.
Let me see what I can find for bricked G1's than we might have redir's wife take a look at it.. or John5788, if you'd volunteer. PM me your contact info...
We could just check the service manual, no?
edit: i tried to upload it, but the upload script here blows..
mediafire to the rescue! [download service manual here]
i just looked through the service manual, nothing specific about the ram/mcu locations. everything is just located on the mainboard without any sort of diagram. the people that look at the service manual dont need to know the device at that sort of hardware level.
What are the 3 gold tabs on inside of HD2? when you take battery cover off? its top of microSD card and left of SIM card?
Does anyone know?
I would guess thouse are the tabs
that tell if the phone has got wet
hd2shadow said:
What are the 3 gold tabs on inside of HD2? when you take battery cover off? its top of microSD card and left of SIM card?
Does anyone know?
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hd2shadow said:
What are the 3 gold tabs on inside of HD2? when you take battery cover off? its top of microSD card and left of SIM card?
Does anyone know?
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First, there are only two tabs.
Second, they are brass, not gold.
Third, I believe they are springs designed to keep the door under tension and facilitate its removal.
Snarksneeze said:
First, there are only two tabs.
Second, they are brass, not gold.
Third, I believe they are springs designed to keep the door under tension and facilitate its removal.
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The ones you are talking about are on either side of the phone when you take the cover off. There are corresponding spots on the cover. Mine are a silver color. The ones the original poster asked about are indeed gold in color and number in three. I say they are there for testing purposes. A faster way to connect to the phone maybe.
The HTC carkit mount comes with a special battery door cover, that the mount snaps into, and also connects through...so it's just a guess (I don't have the carkit myself), but I'd think those are the pins that the car mount uses to pass data, or current for charging
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The HTC carkit mount comes with a special battery door cover, that the mount snaps into, and also connects through...so it's just a guess (I don't have the carkit myself), but I'd think those are the pins that the car mount uses to pass data, or current for charging
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Yes, i would say the same thing. I would guess they are for the car kit because the base of the car kit has power running through it
I would have to jump on the bandwagon on this one and say yes to the carkit feature, due to the pictures found here:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-cu-s400-car-kit-gets-priced-detailed-coming-december-1360143/
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First, there are only two tabs.
Second, they are brass, not gold.
Third, I believe they are springs designed to keep the door under tension and facilitate its removal.
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Wrong Wrong Wrong
clubturbo
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I would guess thouse are the tabs
that tell if the phone has got wet
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it's a connector of some sort hahaha i dunno
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Wrong Wrong Wrong
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Wrong Wrong Wrong
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You ask for help and then act like a jerk when people give you answers. Sounds like you're an expert now so I guess you don't need our help anymore.
I am not Mad its an emoicon!
hd2shadow
Junior MemberWhat are the 3 gold tabs on inside of HD2? when you take battery cover off? its top of microSD card and left of SIM card?
Does anyone know?
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This is what I wrote? hard to misunderstand? you would think? but I have people for whatever reason they might give you? Tell me that I am wrong in what I am asking? (Only I could know that?)
Snarksneeze
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First, there are only two tabs.
Second, they are brass, not gold.
Third, I believe they are springs designed to keep the door under tension and facilitate its removal.
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I was clear on the location > its top of microSD card< >left of SIM card<
Here is one Who actualy READ what I wrote?
SnakePool
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The ones you are talking about are on either side of the phone when you take the cover off. There are corresponding spots on the cover. Mine are a silver color. The ones the original poster asked about are indeed gold in color and number in three. I say they are there for testing purposes. A faster way to connect to the phone maybe.
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speoples20
Senior MemberYou ask for help and then act like a jerk when people give you answers. Sounds like you're an expert now so I guess you don't need our help anymore
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I tell this to my own children, don't take anything personal on the InterNet?,
Get what you can out of it? and filter the Trash?, and yes I am really human so on occasion I will have trash too?
If you look at the very simple "Question" I was asking? "Do You Know?" what this is? and if you do? "Please" let me and everyone who is Interested "KNOW"
If you are one of the low percentage of people who are self-aware, then you will understand this?
I spend time on the InterNet and most of that time is spent Filtering the Trash?
70% of what is written here serves no purpose? and of course there will be those who will debate? and I don't care? because it's the InterNet! need I explain that?
To all the "Sensitive People" out there? Have a Happy Great Day!
I don't know what you all are talking about. Maybe a picture would help?
You have it! That is what I am Talking About!
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I don't know what you all are talking about. Maybe a picture would help?
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That's it!! That's What I am Talking about! But I still don't really know "Exactly" what its for?
Some people have speculated that it is for Kar Kit?
I have been researching for the past few days and have come up with very little?, I have found an HTC site that has some info on it but I have to translate when I have time?
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If you look at the very simple "Question" I was asking? "Do You Know?" what this is? and if you do? "Please" let me and everyone who is Interested "KNOW"
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If we removed all the responses that weren't certain, you'd be sitting here talking to yourself right now.
Most everyone who tried to point you in the right direction did indeed mention that their answers (mine included) were speculation and not first-hand knowledge. If that isn't useful to you, we've granted all forum members the right to ignore any post they want. Yes, any. And we set it up such that you can (and should!) do so without flaming anybody
Someone truly self-aware would recognize that even if help doesn't come in the exact form requested, it's not worthy of disdain.
Absolutes What?
sirphunkee
If we removed all the responses that weren't certain, you'd be sitting here talking to yourself right now.
Most everyone who tried to point you in the right direction did indeed mention that their answers (mine included) were speculation and not first-hand knowledge. If that isn't useful to you, we've granted all forum members the right to ignore any post they want. Yes, any. And we set it up such that you can (and should!) do so without flaming anybody
Someone truly self-aware would recognize that even if help doesn't come in the exact form requested, it's not worthy of disdain
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You are right on many things, but I was not looking for "Absolutes", I was just looking for some "Idea" for it what it might be?
and I regress in my reasoning in putting "Wrong" x3, once should have been enough, my skin became thin from just leaving a controversial site so my frustration level was all wound up?, That I apologies for.
On the matter that I would be "Sitting by Myself?" (Billy Idol,"Dancing with Myself" come to mind) , you are right!, I forgot to turn "Filter" on, so I committed same "Sin", like I said please forgive that one?, I could talk all day about how "If" people would act? but we don't live in a perfect world? actually the opposite.
and for all, as I said before, Have a Happy Great Day!
Lets now leave the Emotional part and get to the Fun Tech Part.
I did find out by talking to T-Mobile Rep Tier 2, it "Is" a Test port, has communication I/O, and can be used for Kar Kit with BlueTooth/bottom micro USB port.
The "Test port" is what I am interested because if you can talk using USB architecture then you can do other things with it? example; Robotics, card readers, Web Cams and many more?, I have been reading the Registry for any clues, or Info on this? That is why I brought up this topic?
The "Test port" is used at factory for reliability testing in a burn-in chamber that they use for getting faulty units out of the mix?
This is what I have so far? if anyone else can add pertinent info it will be greatly appreciated.
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and I regress in my reasoning in putting "Wrong" x3, once should have been enough, my skin became thin from just leaving a controversial site so my frustration level was all wound up?, That I apologies for.
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That is not an apology, it's an excuse.
You did manage to make my ignore list though. Congratulations!
Yeah, those spots are where the back cover used with the car kit connect to the car kit. I never heard of them being used for anything else, but it might be possible. I think power and audio can be sent through those. It also tells the HD2 to go into the navipanel when carkit is connected to it. When looking through the registry, look around the navipanel stuff. It would be cool if we could find some more uses for that port.
More info
I was told that the center tab is data negative and the left tab is data positive and they use case for ground, now I need to figure out how the USB interface works with this? I have been searching the T-Mobile USA HTC HD2 threads for info, but have not found anything? will try the other HD2 original thread to see if anything there can help?
Maybe there is a ROM list of commands supported somewhere to help in the communication interface,
I rigged a 3 wire interface for monitoring only I don't want to put any signals in yet until I understand how it is working?and I am using a program called Boxcar to send signals out of which I can see changes but have yet to determine exact output? This is going to take some time?
Boxcar is a WM2003 program but seems to work with WM 6.5 and is good to use because of the wide variety of interfaces it can use withe the USB transceiver module, Temperature probes, pressure transducers and DAC's Digital to Analog Converters, I also have a serial module but I don't want to go that way? USB is the preferred faster interface.
But ultimately my goal is to make my own Kar Kit interface with a greater amount of control of what it does?
I had already built an Interface that works well with the Ford Sync interface on my car (I use to work for a company that built TED Air condition seats for Ford so I am familiar with the system), but that is using my Laptop and I would like to do the same using only the HD2? Baby steps.
I don't know if anyone here has the knowledge about the HD2 to help me? as it's a new device and info is minimal? I may have to wait until that info level is reached?
hd2shadow said:
I was told that the center tab is data negative and the left tab is data positive and they use case for ground, now I need to figure out how the USB interface works with this? I have been searching the T-Mobile USA HTC HD2 threads for info, but have not found anything? will try the other HD2 original thread to see if anything there can help?
Maybe there is a ROM list of commands supported somewhere to help in the communication interface,
I rigged a 3 wire interface for monitoring only I don't want to put any signals in yet until I understand how it is working?and I am using a program called Boxcar to send signals out of which I can see changes but have yet to determine exact output? This is going to take some time?
Boxcar is a WM2003 program but seems to work with WM 6.5 and is good to use because of the wide variety of interfaces it can use withe the USB transceiver module, Temperature probes, pressure transducers and DAC's Digital to Analog Converters, I also have a serial module but I don't want to go that way? USB is the preferred faster interface.
But ultimately my goal is to make my own Kar Kit interface with a greater amount of control of what it does?
I had already built an Interface that works well with the Ford Sync interface on my car (I use to work for a company that built TED Air condition seats for Ford so I am familiar with the system), but that is using my Laptop and I would like to do the same using only the HD2? Baby steps.
I don't know if anyone here has the knowledge about the HD2 to help me? as it's a new device and info is minimal? I may have to wait until that info level is reached?
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Good Grief,
You need one of those things in your post saying "Do not try this at home" I can see it now all these folks sautering wires to the backside of their phones.... And then saying "my phone just smoke checked, what do I do"
Hello.
The MicroUSB platform on the main-board of my HTC HD2, is broken. So I can't charge the phone nor transfer files.
I disassembled the phone and I need a new main-board now. The part number is 76H03923-XXM.
Where can I buy this part? I've contacted HTC a week ago, but still no answer.
If anyone have this part for sale, please contact me. Or if anyone have a broken HD2 (maybe broken screen), and wants to sell it then don't hesitate to contact me.
Metoo
mooooooa said:
Hello.
The MicroUSB platform on the main-board of my HTC HD2, is broken. So I can't charge the phone nor transfer files.
I disassembled the phone and I need a new main-board now. The part number is 76H03923-XXM.
Where can I buy this part? I've contacted HTC a week ago, but still no answer.
If anyone have this part for sale, please contact me. Or if anyone have a broken HD2 (maybe broken screen), and wants to sell it then don't hesitate to contact me.
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Damn so it seams it wasn't only me that happend that. So did i broke my USG port and my phone does not charge. Plus went to the official reparement and they do not want to take responsability for it. They came with the vague excuse of "mainboard defect not covered by the warranty".
They showed me a photo of the board and as they saying my phone has humitty there for not there responsability...
I also wanted to buy a mainboard for my phone but i've searched everywhere and no luck.
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Damn so it seams it wasn't only me that happend that. So did i broke my USG port and my phone does not charge. Plus went to the official reparement and they do not want to take responsability for it. They came with the vague excuse of "mainboard defect not covered by the warranty".
They showed me a photo of the board and as they saying my phone has humitty there for not there responsability...
I also wanted to buy a mainboard for my phone but i've searched everywhere and no luck.
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To begin with, I sent mine for repair too. HTC wont take the responsibility for the phones broken USB port. They only sent me this picture showing the broken USB.
I haven't treated my phone bad, so i was very disagree with their decision. But they only gave me a link to the Danish court of appeal.
- So, what have you done now? Bought a new phone?
It's sad
mooooooa said:
To begin with, I sent mine for repair too. HTC wont take the responsibility for the phones broken USB port. They only sent me this picture showing the broken USB.
I haven't treated my phone bad, so i was very disagree with their decision. But they only gave me a link to the Danish court of appeal.
- So, what have you done now? Bought a new phone?
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To me they came with the lane excuse of humitity in the board. I see that everything is a good excuse not to take responsability for theye'r crappy materials...
I've always been afraid of something like this happening. That's why as soon as I found out powermat made wireless charging for the HD2 I ordered it. It really sucks for everything to depend on one little port.
You might try this solution for now and just use wifi to transfer files. It makes flashing tough but at least it'll be working, and you can take your time looking for a new board.
http://www.powermat.com/us/powermat-wireless-charging-station-for-htc-hd2.html
Here's a 10% off coupon code too BZPM10
Try: http://www.mpt-pda.com/
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To me they came with the lane excuse of humitity in the board. I see that everything is a good excuse not to take responsability for theye'r crappy materials...
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I got exactly the same answer. "Humility on the board", it would cost me 550$ for HTC to change the Main-board.
buzz killington -->
I already have seen powermat buy can't buy it. I live in Denmark and they don't ship over here...
xmoo -->
Nothing there
--- For now, i ordered this one; http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.40593... So i can charge the battery external.
mooooooa said:
I got exactly the same answer. "Humility on the board", it would cost me 550$ for HTC to change the Main-board.
buzz killington -->
I already have seen powermat buy can't buy it. I live in Denmark and they don't ship over here...
xmoo -->
Nothing there
--- For now, i ordered this one; http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.40593... So i can charge the battery external.
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Damn $550? Thats a new phone... They asked me €180 and i though they were crasy lolol. The 2nd battery n the charger for it i have one what really needed is something to replace the USB connection...
Try : http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-HD2-Replacement-Repair-Parts-s/6112.htm
Can ask them on the part# for them to search.
Similar problem here. The Micro USB doesn't get inserted properly, seems like it's sticking out a mm too much, resulting in a very bad connection, whereas a few month ago the micro usb would stick in completely.
It now only charges, transfering content with a pc isn't possible anymore.
My thoughts were: if I buy a cradle, chances are that it would connect better due to the gravity (don't laugh ). Today I received the cradle but no result. It only charges, and I have a feeling the charging will stop in the near future.
I have the HTC HD2 for exactly two years and I found it very frustrating being confronted with what is in my thought a construction problem.
I've seen the link for dealxtreme, the external loader, but the comment posted below it, doesn't really encourage me to buy the item (high temperature)
Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
If you know anyone that can solder. They can detach it, and re solder it back onto the main-board. Shouldn't be too hard. I think? Should be possible.
Might help out some of you who have the same issues like I did. I used a toothpick to remove dust from the micro usb port. Although the connector still doesn't fit entirely, I now am able to transfer files again to my phone using the cable. Connenction still isn't that good, but might help.
htc broken port
Dear all. If you experience problems with changing your connector i can help.I have the equipment and will do the job for 20$ only (the price includes the brand new connector) Only problem is that you must ship it to Bulgaria so i can do the job. If anyone is interested can pm me.
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Is there a way to change the partition size witout USB?
EDIT: Is it possible to feed the power directly to the battery connector, and if so how? I could solder a simple circuit if this would be necessary to use a USB adapter as power source
Micro-USB
How can I change myself my micro-usb (for HTC HD2) . Are there a tutorial ? or any videos ? Where could I find all accessories and components required for the repair?
I think the accessories will cost more than a new HD2... I think you can´t do it by yourself because its to tiny
Bad idea!
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How can I change myself my micro-usb (for HTC HD2) . Are there a tutorial ? or any videos ? Where could I find all accessories and components required for the repair?
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If you're not a master of soldering, don't even think to!
Any "Masters of Soldering" out there? I would pay for it...
i6amokk doesn´t answer to my PM
EDIT: I bought a second HD2 with damged, but working screen... Now I change the Mainboard, that I have a completly OK HD2 an one with damaged Screen and broken USB. Now how can I stabilize the USB Port to prevent that the new Mainboard get broken too?
And i6amokk anserwed, I sent him Pictures but I,ve not much hope, because the top Layer of the MB is damaged...
Hi everyone
First I would like to thank the people who are here that make these awesome developments, I enjoyed them until today when I was trying to find a better
radio rom. I am/was using tytung's NexusHD2 NAND. I was going threw the radio roms listed in one of the threads and tried "Leo_RADIO_15.29.50.07U_2.06.50.04"
I had to get up for a second and when i returned about 5 min. later the phone was unresponsive. When I try to turn it on i can feel the vibrator motor spin for a split second and noda...No light with the wall charger pluged in or USB.
If anyone has an idea to what I did or what can be done I would be ever so grateful. This is my first smart phone and was so happy to have android running on it. I NEED it back. I've only had it for about a week and am lost with out it already.
I want to thank everyone in advance willing to give me some help!
Thanks from The NooB
Chris
I was reading some more and I'm sure its bricked but the PC does see it when its plugged into the USB...but it doesn't have drivers for it and it didn't have drivers for it before this problem.
I guess the problem is I shouldn't have loaded a TMOUS rom?
I thought It would be "OK" as long as it was a ".50" and not a ".51"
Such a sad day...first my little Leopard gecko broke her leg and then flying ants invade my house and go into my saltwater aquarium and mess that all up and now my new favorite toy is a fishing weight or new target.......I'm afraid to go outside to even go to McD's cause i'm sure i'll die somehow!?!?!?!
Someone please tell me there's hope.
I should have just traded it in for the G2X when I was up the mall today...
But I thought this Nexus NAND was the best thing in the world only problem with this phone was that I had no reception in my house.
Which is why I was messing w/ the radio in the first place...
If anyone figures anything out I'll be in the corner crying..
Thanks again fellas..
If you boot up with the volume down button held down, does it go into bootloader (tri-color screen, not MAGLDR)?
And does your pc have ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center installed on it?
If you can get into bootloader, there is still hope...
Hey Huggs
Thanks for the the reply, No There is no bootloader screen, No nothing just a little blip from the vibrator motor for a tenth of a sec. when I try to just turn the power on, If I try to hold the Vol. key and power at the same time it wont do anything.
I did notice when I plug it into USB it try's to install drivers for a "QUALCOMM CDMA DEVICE" and after about 10min it starts to get warm near the bottom of the battery. I have windows vista so Windows Mobile Device is installed.
I left it go for about 4 hrs from 4am to am and then tried the battery again and again nothing, I'm pretty sure there's nothing I could do from USB.
Does anyone know if any JTAG will work or does it have to be the one I see people using, not the cheap Flea-BAY ones for $50?
also when using a JTAG do you have to have a special file or just the stock rom?
Or is there someone on here offering this service?
The phone never had reception in the house so I should be looking for other methods but this thing is like brand new and I would like to see it come alive.
THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!
Sorry dude but you have 100% bricked your phone. You have no excuse other then lazyness as this is a very well documented fact and warnings against flashing and incorrect radio.
If you had taken time to read things properly you wouldn't have made this mistake.
Your only option now is to send it away for JTAG repair so they can replace your bootloader.
I wouldn't say its because of laziness. I looked up that rom and found a thread where people were using it. It was a ".50" and not ".51" rom and that was all I knew that was uncompilable.
Instead of starting the name calling or your this and that, How about some constructive criticism and say well "that particular rom isn't compatible because of"
I stayed up for 3 days strait and been reading for over a week trying to learn about flashing and what not. could I have spent more time reading YES but I flashed roms about a 2 dozen times and everything was OK. Like I said I used it because of the fact it was a ".50" and thought it was safe to use and the fact I seen the tread that it came from HTC and was safe to use. Guess not!
Thanks for your .02cents theatheist though.
Can someone tell me which JTAG box I have to use?
or what does the box have to support? I see others using the "RIFF BOX"
but 150 for a box is alot for one time use. does the box just have to support an arm7?
Again Thank you for taking the time to read this
Hope every ones have a nice holiday weekend
Can someone tell me why this particular radio rom bricked this phone?
and if anyone could tell me which JTAG box I would have to use?
would a cheap one from the BAY work?
what does the JTAG box have to support?
I am reading but I don't understand some of it.
Thank you for your time and reading this.
As soon as i finish posting this I will send you a PM with a link to someone that offers a JTAG service for $50 USD and lives in US. He is very good too, I would not recommend him if he was not very experienced with JTAGing HD2s.
I do not know why that Radio version brickedc your HD2 cause from what I know only the 2.04.50.xx or the 2.05.50.xx radio versions or the only radio versions with 50s that will brick a TMOUS. Looks like I might have to add 2.06,50,xx radio versions to that list. The reason why these radios with 50swill brick a TMOUS is because these radio versions were used in the Test TOM/Test T-Mobile HD2s which were actually regular HD2s and not the TMOUS that is out now with the extra ROM and RAM. There for these radios were not designed to run on the TMOUS.
Oh and you are correct about the %1 radio versions to0, they were all made for the regular HD2s also.
Thank you so much for your time Sir.
and thanks for the explanation, I would really like to try and JTAG it myself
do you know if any of the cheap JTAG boxes on ebay that support the ARM7 would work? I will shoot that guy a PM.
I hope you have a Safe Holiday weekend!
SeaWeed89 said:
Thank you so much for your time Sir.
and thanks for the explanation, I would really like to try and JTAG it myself
do you know if any of the cheap JTAG boxes on ebay that support the ARM7 would work? I will shoot that guy a PM.
I hope you have a Safe Holiday weekend!
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To be honest i do not know if the "cheap boxes" you refer to will work or not. Maybe a link to the exact box you are referring to would help.
I do know this if you want to try it yourself that is cool, but be warned you have to have a small torques head srew driver, a HTC HD2 JTAG, a Riffbox with proper connection cables, a Omnei Repair Tool (ORT), the software to use the Riffbox, and it is best if you have a small power supply for the mainboard but you can use the power from the HD2 battery. Plus you have to completely remove the mainboard of your HD2 to JTAG it, which means you pretty much have to totally disassemble the HD2.
So not only is JTAGing a HD2 just for yourself expensive, but you need to have some skill to do it as well.
PM the guy I referred you to is a very good idea, best of luck with however you decide to JTAG your HD2.
Thanks for the response...Your very helpful.
I didn't know If links were permitted.? Here's the link's
1&2 are the same but different prices, They both support ARM7 architecture Which I thought the QSD8250 was?
#1. http://cgi.ebay.com/JLINK-J-LINK-V8...155?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aab620ae3
#2 http://cgi.ebay.com/JLINK-J-LINK-V8...551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b1f2c6e7
There is a RIFF for $150 that I found but I cant really pull that off ATM.
There is others that support the ARM also. I've also found a no-solder connecter for about 15 bucks but I don't know if the pin-out is the same on the ribbon cable as the ORT-JTAG box(company that has the connecter). I'm sure I could change it around If i could find a schematic for the both of them(connecter and box)
I do have the tools to dismantle this and power station(I also mess with the Arduino platform and circuit building when I have time and recently have just dismantled my HTC TP2 for craps and giggles and have fixed multiple IPOD touches) I have been also ripping everything apart that had a battery/wire connected to it since I could remember. And try to get it back together before my old man would come home and would find his stereo taken apart...
The only thing that has me is the programming part itself like the actual file.
I don't know if it's something special for the box or just the stock rom?
I have watched some youtube on it but nothing really helpful.
I'm thinking I could do it and maybe help some others if I could nail it and do some more reading. My brothers into IT(servers) and a HTC nightly rommer so I was hoping he could help he and I was really hoping for some help from you good fellas here.
I want to thank you for the PM (very helpful) and the reply.
I will probably end up sending it to him because it's about the same price and I don't have funds for a new phone if I toast it, and hes a very nice guy. I just love messing with stuff.
Have a good one.
Chris
To be honest I do not know if the JTAG Emulators your linked would work or not. It looks as though it might could but I can not saw proof positive it would work.
Ii seems like you might would be able to do it yourself. You have a lot of the needed tools. I think the software for the Riff Box comes with the Riff Box but not sure as I have never JTAGed a device. The software allows you to reload or as the program calls it "res-erect "the SPL, you see JTAG restores the bootloader and that is it. Then you just flash a ROM of your choice to the HD2 and you are good to go. But I do recommend you flash a stock Windows Mobile ROM just for precautionary purposes.
Yes you want the no solder JTAG that makes it a lot easier as far as the set up process.
It's a wild, stupid question but if I brought a screen for the Sensation XL, the processor from a Galaxy S II and the body (modified to be big enough) from a galaxy nexus how much work would be needed in to making this super phone?
Rip the other components from other phones.
I know that software and components would be problematic to say the least, but could it be done? Is it POSSIBLE?
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GPU, correct power stuff, all that stuff. technically you could but it's a lot more than 3 words.
Possible: Yes.
Probable: NO.
Could be the new thing in phones! like in desktops.
It would be great though!
I'm guessing you'd need to build your own drivers and kernels and all that goodstuff. I think it is possible but itd be way to much work.
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I'm guessing you'd need to build your own drivers and kernels and all that goodstuff. I think it is possible but itd be way to much work.
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Android should have a universal kernel. That would be awesome.
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Well, let's start from the beginning:
You need a SOC. I doubt you can find a SOC by itself, so you would have to take it from another phone. Another option is getting a mainboard from a device, and you can find spare mainboards.
Next, you need to do some research on how the display is connected, what parts you're going to use, if their way of connecting is supported by your mainboard, etc.
Then, you have to find a way to write something to that SOC. If you don't have a mainboard that's programmed, you'll need to make the partitions manually, which means you will need a programmer (not as in someone who can write code, but a device which can write stuff to NAND chips using JTAG or something like that) to write a NAND to that SOC's MTD.
And what you have to write to that NAND? You'll need a bootloader, so you could stick with a SOC from a HTC and use the default HBOOT, or I would prefer a clean bootloader. You could check the source code of cLK for HD2, which is a really decent bootloader.
Next up, you have to get hardware working. In other words, building a kernel. Get the Linux kernel, find all the parts for all of the hardware, and actually get it up and running. And I can tell you, this is a hell of a job. Compiling a kernel from source is easy, but implementing all of your hardware in a kernel is pretty difficult. You will have to get a barebone up and running, make it dump a log to somewhere in the RAM or NAND, read that dump out, check what it's saying, and you know where to continue. This will cost a LOT of time.
Once your kernel is running and it can echo something to the screen (which is already hard by itself), you have to build an Android image from source, which is not hard at all, and extract that image to a partition on the NAND. And then, set up the rootfs path in your kernel correctly so it knows where you put that filesystem of Android.
And then, boot it up, hope that logcat can tell you something, perhaps Android will boot, but the chance is pretty small that it will the first time you try. And when you finally get into Android, you have to get all the hardware working there again.
And then you have a working Android device, but I'm afraid you can't make this thing legal, as you need an IMEI, and as far as I know, extracting and messing with IMEI's (or ESN's as they're called in the USA I believe) is not allowed, so you do have to know something about all of that stuff to get a GSM radio up and running.
It's possible, but I suggest you start with replacing a display of an HD2 with a display from a Desire for example, try to get it working, continue replacing stuff, and you know if you're able to do this.
If you want it, you could get somewhere, but it will cost a lot of money (I think it'll cost about 600$), without knowing if it will do the trick.
Are you seriously saying "Could I ...." or you meant "Can I ....?
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Are you seriously saying "Could I ...." or you meant "Can I ....?
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Meh'
It's just words, there not going to be important in this instance.
If I were building a rocket then yes, words are important.
But I'm asking is it POSSIBLE to build a phone.
Possible... the simple way, get a working motherboard of s2 or gnote, get its display spec and wiring dia, get the display u need.. get its spec and wiring dia. Cross refer the two disp. If it match in some way, get it fixed to the board, build/get a body for the thing. Done.
Nearly impossible.. if any thing is not matching , and u fit it, well u gonna get a burned disp /board. And since u r doing some R&D, u will have to spent a lot, may be as much as for getting 2-3 top rated phones.
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good luck!! tell use when u built ur phone!
DustByte said:
good luck!! tell use when u built ur phone!
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Just a question lol! I wouldn't because of all the work involved with software and legal sh*t.
Benjamin! I thought I fired you! (Long story on WFSDev, he threw a chair at me, I became a Dalek)
It's possible, but like the others said, it would take a lot of work. You'd need your own drivers, kernels (probably ask NHB) etc. but it's possible. Check out these links:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/build_system.html
http://www.android.com/developers/branding.html
http://droidgamers.com/index.php/ga...custom-android-phone-well-at-least-in-germany
I remember some other links for manufacturers on the Android website, but I couldn't find them. Good Luck!
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Benjamin! I thought I fired you! (Long story on WFSDev, he threw a chair at me, I became a Dalek)
It's possible, but like the others said, it would take a lot of work. You'd need your own drivers, kernels (probably ask NHB) etc. but it's possible. Check out these links:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/build_system.html
http://www.android.com/developers/branding.html
http://droidgamers.com/index.php/ga...custom-android-phone-well-at-least-in-germany
I remember some other links for manufacturers on the Android website, but I couldn't find them. Good Luck!
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Hehe lol, nice following me up there boss man!
Probable no :-\
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well..
if you really have money you could ask some manufacturer to make a phone that suits you..
i mean, if you really have money.. xD
I'll think the closest your going to get is if you're buying one of the arm development boards. You should get android up and running but you're pretty far away from any mobile device
Some company like motorola should make a program and you choose the specs and they make it for you.
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weldawadyathink said:
Some company like motorola should make a program and you choose the specs and they make it for you.
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This is awful because of the licensing, test and certification requirements. Phones are only cheap because of economies of scale which you lose there. It isn't like a desktop where you can swap pieces easily. It is more akin to an even more ****ed laptop.
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And then you have a working Android device, but I'm afraid you can't make this thing legal, as you need an IMEI, and as far as I know, extracting and messing with IMEI's (or ESN's as they're called in the USA I believe) is not allowed, so you do have to know something about all of that stuff to get a GSM radio up and running.
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Just to clarify, IMEI is for GSM and ESN is for CDMA, so we actually have both in the U.S.