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Strange little problem I’ve got here. I’m using the brilliant Asus UX31E ultrabook which is a 1.8ghz i7.
Didn’t have any problems running windows 7, but just installed a fresh windows 8 last week.
I’ve installed all the updates I could find from the ASUS website but here’s the problem, with windows 7 the fans would only ever come on if you were really pushing it playing a game. Using windows 8 the fans will regularly come on just browsing in chrome.
when you open task manager the computer details recognise that it’s only a 1.8 processer yet it often is being utilized as high as 2.8ghz! This is making the machine overheat, turn on the fans and sometimes have to turn itself off.
I’ve been into power settings and reduced the maximum power usage to 70% and that usually does the job, but then it quickly forgets this setting and restores it to 100% (2.7GHZ!). In task manager the highest task utilisation wise is ‘system’ but no idea exactly what it’s doing..
Is there anything I can do to have greater control over the processor speed or investigate what might be causing the problem?
Asus had some power control software for windows 7 but don’t seem to offer it for windows 8.
Cheers guys
andypa1 said:
Strange little problem I’ve got here. I’m using the brilliant Asus UX31E ultrabook which is a 1.8ghz i7.
Didn’t have any problems running windows 7, but just installed a fresh windows 8 last week.
I’ve installed all the updates I could find from the ASUS website but here’s the problem, with windows 7 the fans would only ever come on if you were really pushing it playing a game. Using windows 8 the fans will regularly come on just browsing in chrome.
when you open task manager the computer details recognise that it’s only a 1.8 processer yet it often is being utilized as high as 2.8ghz! This is making the machine overheat, turn on the fans and sometimes have to turn itself off.
I’ve been into power settings and reduced the maximum power usage to 70% and that usually does the job, but then it quickly forgets this setting and restores it to 100% (2.7GHZ!). In task manager the highest task utilisation wise is ‘system’ but no idea exactly what it’s doing..
Is there anything I can do to have greater control over the processor speed or investigate what might be causing the problem?
Asus had some power control software for windows 7 but don’t seem to offer it for windows 8.
Cheers guys
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Have you done a upgrade or clean installation from windows 8
if you had done a upgrade please do a clean installation of windows 8
if not then go to the advance power settings in the control panel and set processor cooling state to active
shreshth89 said:
Have you done a upgrade or clean installation from windows 8
if you had done a upgrade please do a clean installation of windows 8
if not then go to the advance power settings in the control panel and set processor cooling state to active
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I was wondering if it was a true clean install or upgrade. I read he installed a fresh copy nut wasn't sure if that was meaning clean (wiped the drive) or what. I didn't really notice.alot of heat issues with my last laptop I upgraded; I chose to keep personal files and settings. I do have about 180gb of pictures and movies which were scattered in multiple locations on win7. Now my media is very orderly, as well as my 20gb of music.
Saying all that, I believe when I installed the media center that it cleaned up my files, or it may have just been windows 8, but either way it took some work on wimdows8 to organize my hard drive much better than before. I have scanned my hd for the need to defrag it, but it shows to be dang near perfect. If you have alot of media on your machine I wonder if its doing file management, which is making it run hot, etc. I know phones are different but when I load a new ROM it takes it several hours to slow down the media system usage.
How many days have you been running the system with wimdows8 ? Do you have a lot of Files/media on your machine ?
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The majority of the time, the issue isn't with the Operating System as much as it is with a single application. Check task manager while your computer is running and see what applications are causing the processor to go nuts. If it is indeed a system application, then I would suggest doing a complete wipe and fresh install of Windows 8. You can back up your authentication key by saving a specific folder in the File Browser. Do a search on MyDigitalLife for that information.
Doing a quick search on your Processor, it runs standard at 1.8 ghz, and the 2.9 jump is completely normal. It's a feature called "Turbo Speed". With Windows 8 came upgraded drivers, which probably enabled this feature that you've never noticed.
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I was wondering if it was a true clean install or upgrade. I read he installed a fresh copy nut wasn't sure if that was meaning clean (wiped the drive) or what. I didn't really notice.alot of heat issues with my last laptop I upgraded; I chose to keep personal files and settings. I do have about 180gb of pictures and movies which were scattered in multiple locations on win7. Now my media is very orderly, as well as my 20gb of music.
Saying all that, I believe when I installed the media center that it cleaned up my files, or it may have just been windows 8, but either way it took some work on wimdows8 to organize my hard drive much better than before. I have scanned my hd for the need to defrag it, but it shows to be dang near perfect. If you have alot of media on your machine I wonder if its doing file management, which is making it run hot, etc. I know phones are different but when I load a new ROM it takes it several hours to slow down the media system usage.
How many days have you been running the system with wimdows8 ? Do you have a lot of Files/media on your machine ?
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yes it is true
whoever each and every application running sometimes FC itself or crashes while operation which leaves a unmarked thread or loos end of the application (which also termed as viruses when they start further spreading the system)
in system which were already troubling you creates a problem due to upgrade
so a month after upgrading to windows 8 50% of the time when I try to open an app from the start screen it will open, not load, crash and kick me back to the regular desktop and the taskbar will be a solid color and then all of the items will come back. I think all of explorer is crashing and its getting on my nerves.
Also, my computer has started to lock up forcing a forced shutdown, but what's extra weird about this is when I boot back up it boots up faster than normal and everything is still loaded on my computer.
So I've decided the only thing I can do now is to clean refresh so I guess my question is which option of refreshing should I choose? I know the full one creates a windows.old file to recover the stuff I need but I was wondering if it'd be safe to use the keep my files option or if I shouldn't even risk it? Or if anyone knows of a fix (probably not going to happen)?
It sounds like your so-called "forced shutdowns" are actually putting the computer in sleep mode.
Make sure your system is fully up to date. There have been some performance, stability, and reliability updates for Win8 already. You don't need Metro to run Windows Update.
It's fine to try Refresh first, and if that doesn't fix things, go for a Reset. Generally, Refresh would work fine.
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so a month after upgrading to windows 8 50% of the time when I try to open an app from the start screen it will open, not load, crash and kick me back to the regular desktop and the taskbar will be a solid color and then all of the items will come back. I think all of explorer is crashing and its getting on my nerves.
Also, my computer has started to lock up forcing a forced shutdown, but what's extra weird about this is when I boot back up it boots up faster than normal and everything is still loaded on my computer.
So I've decided the only thing I can do now is to clean refresh so I guess my question is which option of refreshing should I choose? I know the full one creates a windows.old file to recover the stuff I need but I was wondering if it'd be safe to use the keep my files option or if I shouldn't even risk it? Or if anyone knows of a fix (probably not going to happen)?
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I had something like this, and a refresh didn't do it. I had to reset the laptop. I haven't put much on the laptop, so I deleted all files.
I attempted refresh, but after afterwards I couldn't access the internet from within the metro apps. It seemed to start with the most recent auto update, but after the reset I did the updates and everything is fine. What happened was that I was unable to run any metro apps at all. I could get to the desktop, but the metro side would be unavailable until I saw the taskbar flash a solid color. Then I could briefly go to the metro side, for about 10 seconds.
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I'm getting this on one of my computers, interestingly it also has hdcp issues, im writing this up as a potential graphics issue, there are reports to back this up but nothing confirmed, if it is todo with graphics its not related to a single driver version, its almost completely random, this might suggest there is some conflict with driver, gpu, and whatever windows has built in for copy protection
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thanks for the replies guys. it's definitely a weird problem as its only gotten progressively worse (stopped these last two days, no problems...don't know what happened haha) but I've got all my updated drivers from the sony website minus the BIOS cuz that slowed the hell out of my computer running windows 7 so I'm just avoiding sony drivers as much as possible
so turns out problem not gone. jinxed it, updated some things that weren't updated but something wont update correctly and idk why but I've got a final tomorrow so I'll figure it out another time
This has been driving me nutts and insane.
Windows 8 has the tendency to run all sort of tasks at certain time interval for the sake of Maintenance.
While this is perfectly ok on my desktop with its huge dual core 3 Ghz CPU, the same can not be said about my laptop with I3.
Whenever windows decides to do something, the temperatures spike close to the operational maximum.
So far, I've identified and neturalized some of the following tasks:
Idle maintenance: this is a pain in the ass to disable!
Scheduled maintenance: really annoying, if you happen to be doing something at that time, you're screwed big time (put it at 4 AM, no computer wake up-> took me a while to realize why my laptop started at random times during the night)
The following are things I've discovered by supervising the new task manager
The antivirus apparently decided at completely random times to scan something. I am ok with that (real time protection yada yada yada).
Apparently, some SQL server for windows NT process also starts at random times (no clue what it is and what it does)
Application hosts (network restricted -> I suppose this is some sort of .net Host) also runs at random times, even when PC is idle.
Disk defrag decides it's time to do its job: ofc, at random times,
I can't find any scheduled tasks to disable anymore!
Is this supposed to be the default behavior of windows 8, or is my installation corrupt?
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The antivirus apparently decided at completely random times to scan something. I am ok with that (real time protection yada yada yada).
Apparently, some SQL server for windows NT process also starts at random times (no clue what it is and what it does)
Application hosts (network restricted -> I suppose this is some sort of .net Host) also runs at random times, even when PC is idle.
Disk defrag decides it's time to do its job: ofc, at random times,
I can't find any scheduled tasks to disable anymore!
Is this supposed to be the default behavior of windows 8, or is my installation corrupt?
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What anti virus are you using because if its anything other than the built in suite then the issue is nothing to do with windows 8 and you should be consulting the software vendor. I dont have a problem with the built in software which only seems to use a significant amount of CPU time when the machine is otherwise idle, otherwise it takes a back seat, its still there but not making a huge difference.
SQL server should not be enabled by default. Its a database software. You can go into control panel>Add remove programs>enable/disable windows features, its in there somewhere. It should also be taking a back seat unless there is an active connection, chances are if you have no idea what it is then you never configured it to even have a port to listen on or a database to manage so it should in theory be doing absolutely nothing.
Application hosts is required, cannot be shut down without causing some problems.
Disk defrag should only run when the system is idle, always has done since vista.
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What anti virus are you using because if its anything other than the built in suite then the issue is nothing to do with windows 8 and you should be consulting the software vendor. I dont have a problem with the built in software which only seems to use a significant amount of CPU time when the machine is otherwise idle, otherwise it takes a back seat, its still there but not making a huge difference.
SQL server should not be enabled by default. Its a database software. You can go into control panel>Add remove programs>enable/disable windows features, its in there somewhere. It should also be taking a back seat unless there is an active connection, chances are if you have no idea what it is then you never configured it to even have a port to listen on or a database to manage so it should in theory be doing absolutely nothing.
Application hosts is required, cannot be shut down without causing some problems.
Disk defrag should only run when the system is idle, always has done since vista.
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Antivirus is windows defender.
So, judging by your answer, my win8 installation is corrupt. Fine, I just reinstalled it. Let's see if it works better now^^
Hi there.
I'm doing this thread to once & for all find the ultimate answers to my PC "issues".
Before i bought my Lenovo Yoga 8 laptop i was thinking of buying a Google Chromebook. Specs might not be as high-end as a Windows PC but it loads a lot faster (having no such apps or enough background process to load in the background), apps load a lot faster, updates come automatically (and no need to download/intall like a PC), straighforward OS and no complicated hundreds of settings to tinker with unlike a PC. And besides a Chromebook is virus and malware-free forever.
I also happen to come from a Macbook Air and i found my PC that slow. Downloading & installing apps takes a lot longer, opening or closing an app or browser or tasks also takes longer. But in the course i have made some research to improve the speed & performanc of my Windows laptop mainly:
1. Turned off bluetooth
2. Set Windows Update to automatic
3. Updated Windows Defender
4. Defrafgging my gard drive monthly
5. Choose Selective Startup (under msconfig) and made sure no apps are enabled under Startup, selected apps are running under Services, choose a higher number under Processors and maximum memory set to at least half of what my Lenovo is capable of (under Boot)
6. Set performance to High Performance. (And being plugged in the mains)
What else have i missed?
Also i noticed when i look at Task Manager there are background processes that i do not understand and i'm not sure whether to disable them or not although it shows 0% affecting the RAM, etc.
If i don't get satisfied with this "complicated" WIndows 8.1 OS i might as well sell it and get a Chromebook as i use most of their services anyway on my Android phone.
To put things into certain context you see the most "intensve" task i will be doing in my computer will be downloading torrents 10 tabs/files at a time (it could be an .mp3 album or a standard .mp4 HD movie), wireless printing hundreds of pages from an assignmnt or work project, transferring hi-quality files (Flac or .mkv) to my Android tablet or doing an "intermediate-level" photo editing of my photos for upload to Twitter, Facebook, etc. My computer stays at home 99.99% of the time and IS online 100% of the time.
What you think guys?
I am not exactly sure what you bought, cause I can't find any Lenovo Yoga 8 running windows 8.
If you find windows 8 slow, you either bought something very low end, or something broken inside.
And no, a chrome book is not better than a PC. A PC has this thing called "reliability", which the chrome book lacks when you no longer have an internet connection.
Unless you are ready to pay a hefty monthly subscription to some mobile operator for unlimited data connection (which isn't really unlimited, after around 4GB, your connection will be slowed down automatically in many cases), and are ready to face the consequences of not having said data connection service whereever you go.
Even if windows PCs are more "expensive", which they are not, you can find a much more powerful computing machine at the same price of a chrome book (haswel i3s are really cheap now), you know you can do anything you want, whenever you want, and not relay on your internet connection to do more than checking the time.
Sorry...
I have bought Lenovo Yoga 2 11-inch Windows PC.
The MacBook Air I had before my Lenovo one stayed at home 100% of the time and is connected to the web 100% of the time. My fibre broadband is at least 70MB downloads speeds. With this respect a Chromebook would be suitable for me.
The PC I bought isn't low-end by any means. It is of the higher mid-range ones based on the specs itself. As I said I have done my own research, looked at Youtube videos on tip & tricks. The 8.1 update itself took me almost 5 hours even with that good specs. After that it is still slow. You can set up a Chromebook in 5-ish minutes, takes under 10 seconds to boot up from no power or sleep and apps start almost instantly. Because of probably all these background processes going on in Windows 8.1 it is still slow. Have shut and stopped some of them but still no significant change.
WIndows 8.1 isn't the lightweight, smooth OS I was hoping for. It is still "complicated" compared to a Mac and a Chromebook. Having it owned and used for 4 weeks I think that was enough for me to realise that perhaps....maybe next time.
Your PC is VERY low end. It has a Celeron/Pentium processor which is basically a higher clocked intel atom.
Upper mid range is core i3, not celeron my friend.
A MacBook has a core i5 processor, among other things, like a SSD for storage.
You traded a lot of mobility in the yoga for lower specs. This is why you paid so much. You can easily get a haswel i5 for this money, which is almost 10 times faster than this. You didn't research properly, I am affraid. This ain't no notebook for keeping around the house. this is a mobility oriented product.
Well, anyway i have returned the Yoga 2 back to the store and got myself an Acer C720 Chromebook. First impressions? Positive. Solid keyboard (could do with a backlit one), good sounding speakers, solid build quality and that's it so far. It's barely 24 hours so its too early to say as i haven't tried it that much yet.
IMO the best thing to improve general "feel" of a computer, especially things like how fast applications start up, is get an SSD. I don't what your Yoga had, but if it was one of the ones with the 5,400 rpm drives, it'll be slow.
If all you need is Chrome, then a Chromebook has the advantage being cheaper. Whilst a 10 second boot that Google claim for Chromebooks is quick, I wouldn't call Windows PCs slow, so long as you don't cripple them with a slow hard disk. My low end Asus T100 boots in 12 seconds (my Android Nexus 7 2013 takes 30 seconds). I don't see why web apps would load slower or things take longer to download on Chrome under Windows, than on a Chromebook - has this been tested (on equivalent hardware and network)?
"updates come automatically (and no need to download/intall like a PC)"
But you still have to download them on a Chromebook, and it happens automatically on Windows...
Never had a virus on Windows, and virus checking is built in and in the background now. There is more of a risk, but then it's like saying you're better off with a £10 dumb phone, because it's impossible to get a virus on it
Chromebook has everything you need? Then well, go ahead. Cause it is cheap and maybe simple to use.
Just make sure one day if you come up with something that you want to do but can be done only on a real computer (like using certain software or playing certain games), you can't. At the end of the day, you pay for what you get.
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A Chromebook and a PC serve different purposes. A Chromebook is like a motorcycle, lightweight, efficient and it will get you to from point A to B on the internet. A PC is like a truck,it can do a lot more but needs a bit more hardware to run on. If you can get by with a Chromebook do ahead. But I want full desktop programs, hardware driver support, etc. Thats why I got a Toshiba Encore tablet that runs 8.1. Windows still feels kind of weird on a tablet, but having a full desktop OS in a device that portable is awesome and those Bay Trail Atoms are a hell of a lot better than previous Atoms.
The Lenovo Yoga laptop i got is a quad-core Haswell-powered computer. Yet, it took me 4 hours to update it to 8.1 whilst my Chromebook took 4 minutes (even less) to set-up. My quad-core Yoga took 30 seconds (or less) to startup whilst my Chromebook took 7-8 seconds maximum.
Since having an Android phone and tablet for the past 4-5 years i feel i am tied up to Google and its various services. I can still avail and enjoy some of the MS services like OneCloud and OneOffice via its web app versions so for me that's still ok.
Gino76ph said:
The Lenovo Yoga laptop i got is a quad-core Haswell-powered computer. Yet, it took me 4 hours to update it to 8.1 whilst my Chromebook took 4 minutes (even less) to set-up. My quad-core Yoga took 30 seconds (or less) to startup whilst my Chromebook took 7-8 seconds maximum.
Since having an Android phone and tablet for the past 4-5 years i feel i am tied up to Google and its various services. I can still avail and enjoy some of the MS services like OneCloud and OneOffice via its web app versions so for me that's still ok.
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Your yoga wasn't a haswell...
According to Lenovo it was.
i still use win 7 and I feel good with it but it start to show some update errors that make me wait every time I turn my laptop on this issue make me wait 30 mins until the windows start to show " failure configuring windows updates reverting changes " this is the issue I tried to solve it but with now anything new
I need some advice if win 10 is better and why and what the difference between win 7 and win 10 in terms of the performance of the laptop and the OS
Thanks in advance.