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So I like most everything about my nexus but the way it takes pictures. Its not so much a real issue because it doesn't prevent the camera from working.. but it seems the chip/sensor they used for the camera gives a red spot in all pictures in the center of the image, most noticeably in pictures with a white or light background/image. I'll attach a picture so everyone else can confirm what I mean... I was hoping we could get HTC to replace the phones that have this issue via the warranty as this seems to be an issue with many nexus ones (based on a couple of reviews and the pictures they provided there). Here's my sample picture. You can also see it on screen when looking at what you're going to take a picture of.
Also I do research in a lab and its a procedure for an experiment I'm doing... just realized what I was posting might seem odd... didn't really read it before posting.
It is a software issue, so they are not going to do a warranty replacement. Droid had the same deal with it, seems to be something with the base 2.0/1 Android framework, I am sure it will be fixed when google releases their bug fix update(don't ask when, no legit idea beyond guessing sometime around the start of February, since that seems to be the typical timeline with phone bug updates, about 30 days after launch the first update is released).
Correction. It's a HARDWARE issue. Dont believe me? leave your cammera on for a couple minutes.. Goes away right? Its cuz droid camera was the same.. or similar? They had a bad batch. Mine has no pink eye(N1) =>
The Droid's issue was partially a software problem...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/motorola-droid-camera-autofocus-fixed-in-secrecy/
As well, it is a "who really knows?"
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=10749
It seems many phones, with different camera's and so forth are having this issue... CCD seems to be the manufacturer of all the sensors, though, so perhaps there is a problem with the firmware from CCD causing this?
I highly doubt that every single camera sensor ever made by this company happens to have this sort of issue due to hardware. That would be pretty insane! However, if it was a firmware issue, then it would be present in every handset that uses a CCD manufactured/firmware supported camera, and this seems to be the case.
As well, it has already been stated the HD2 will get an update that fixes it. Hopefully the Nexus One is in the same boat. I didn't notice it on the test unit I used, but I asked the current tester if it was happening, and on all 3 it is present. It isn't noticeable in most pictures, though, especially with the flash on, FXcamera set to the proper white balance, and so forth.
EVERY Nexus One you get will have this issue. IT IS SOFTWARE. My N1 has it, the replacement I got has it too.
I've just taken a load of pictures and no pink from what I can see with both flash on and off.
Took pictures of a white surface and no pink. Must be hardware.
EDIT: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...authkey=Gv1sRgCNKM3fOF452TyQE&feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...authkey=Gv1sRgCNKM3fOF452TyQE&feat=directlink
Do you have any camera apps installed? FXcamera with proper white balance settings(sometimes auto is perfect, sometimes you have to do it manually) makes it go away a lot of the time too.
Eh Hem.. Guys are you all forgetting that my N1 DOES NOT HAVE PINK EYE
From what I understand this is a hardware issue. This was also present in an earlier HTC phone (I think the HD2) running a different OS altogether.
yes this was a widespread issue on the HD2... and it was completley fixed by a SOFTWARE UPDATE! >.<
A cursory search of the words "hd2 pink camera issue" on Google seems to imply that this is actually a hardware issue.
Edit: The source of the confusion http://www.redmondpie.com/fix-pink-camera-problem-on-htc-hd2-9140202/:
HTC first confirmed it as an hardware issue but then later they found out that it was infact a software issue, rather than a hardware one.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/a_hardware_fault_causes_htc_hd2_*pink*_camera_issues_confirmed-news-1276.php
I believe the SOFTWARE update is just overcorrecting the blue/green settings on the center of the camera (Guess...) to cancel out the HARDWARE problem with YOUR camera. But again.. It is a Hardware issue for sure. Sorry guys xD I win!
I wouldnt trust htc if you ask them though.. I dont think they are certain what planet they are on half the time.. I asked about how they know that I unlocked my bootloader and his answer was basically.. voodoo. Soooo yaaahhhh... Notice that the cameras are the same for droid HD2 and Nexus one? and those are the only 3 with the issue? Not the G1 with ported software? => hardware folks
flamerider88 said:
I wouldnt trust htc if you ask them though.. I dont think they are certain what planet they are on half the time.. I asked about how they know that I unlocked my bootloader and his answer was basically.. voodoo.
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You asked someone in support; customer support for any company is always uninformed. These aren't the people making press releases or even official forum posts.
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I believe the SOFTWARE update is just overcorrecting the blue/green settings on the center of the camera...
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I agree, just because the manufacturer releases a software fix doesn't mean its a software problem to begin with.
The first day I had the phone, I really noticed the pink spot. Yesterday I took 30 pictures, I didn't notice it at all. Today If I look hard enough I think I see a little tiny pink, viewing the image of a white piece of paper in the same place (office) I first tested the camera.
Yeah I noticed this too. It only really shows up if I take pictures of white paper or a white wall. Every other normal pic I take turns out fine but I do hope they can fix it with a software update... wouldn't be too hard.
dinan said:
Yeah I noticed this too. It only really shows up if I take pictures of white paper or a white wall. Every other normal pic I take turns out fine but I do hope they can fix it with a software update... wouldn't be too hard.
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My n1 has it too. Ive tried it now in room with room light and it gives this violett spot when i tak a picture with automatic colorbalance, if i put room light as colorbalance there is no spot...
google already knows about that issue and a fix will be released!
"I have great news! The issue has been fixed and should be included in the next update to Android. I say "should" because things can change at the last minute. Keep an eye on your notification bar for a system update."
source: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7a22ebb69da2b253&hl=en#all
navahoo said:
google already knows about that issue and a fix will be released!
"I have great news! The issue has been fixed and should be included in the next update to Android. I say "should" because things can change at the last minute. Keep an eye on your notification bar for a system update."
source: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7a22ebb69da2b253&hl=en#all
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I followed the link, but didn't see the response you quoted...?
flarbear said:
I followed the link, but didn't see the response you quoted...?
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That's because it was removed by Google. I read it this afternoon. Is not there any longer. The Google employee was "Tommy" and you can't find his posts any more.
You can read other people's response to his post but his don't show up any longer.
well, that post is very hopeful. i suppose all we can do is hope for the best. i dont know if google deleting the post is good or bad though
I thought that they had fixed this already!!! I thought this ROM had the Camera hotfixes included. The pink spot is extremely noticeable in some pictures I was taking for a project today. Is there any way I can fix this?
Adam
check if you have newest ROM etc
I manually installed the patch and still have the pink spot. I wrote HTC, but I don't expect much other than swapping phones.
VidMan said:
I thought that they had fixed this already!!! I thought this ROM had the Camera hotfixes included. The pink spot is extremely noticeable in some pictures I was taking for a project today. Is there any way I can fix this?
Adam
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in the normal hd2 it was fixed in 1.66 rom i don't have it now , but tmobile hd2 has a newer rom base so this problem shouldn't be exists ,if it is a common tmo us problem ,then expect a hotfix from htc if ot then you must sent your device for a repair
i am getting the same thing on my tmobile hd2
odd. mine is fine. maybe it was a batch of them.
Same here.....
It could just be a batch of phones that have that. My phone does not show it and I just took a picture of a white wall
I don't seem to have this problem at all.
Then again, I've also increased the resolution of my camera pictures in Superfine mode. That's the only quality I'm willing to take photographs in. Especially when it comes to being outdoors.
It's a hardware issue that HTC is very aware of. They have tried to patch this in the past, several times in fact with several "Hot Fixes" that were released for the EURO model... some devices might just be faulty.
It's luck of the draw in the mobile device world, seriously... it is!
So, is it just me... or is that dude... way up above me... is his signature just like, incredibly MASSIVE, or what?
There's already a thread about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660356
disable flash
if you took the pics in a room (electric light) and have flash on then you will get a pink hue
just disable flash
look at the picture
Because the human eye can not see, the camera can see; so we did not find
HD2 two sensors, one of which only work only answer the phone, but when it does not stop at the android! I think this will lead to a waste of electricity.
Sorry, I do not speak English, can only use GOOGLE translation.
uh...... yha.......?
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这不是一个个例!因为人眼不能看到,要用相机才能看到!
HD2听筒旁边有两个感应器,一个用于感光,一个用于接近人脸时关闭屏幕.
在WM6.5下,只有接听电话时"接近人脸时关闭屏幕"这个感应器才会发光.而在andoird下有一个是不关闭的!
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This is not a one example! Because the human eye can not see, to use the camera to see!
HD2 handset next to the two sensors, one for light-sensitive, one for close to face to close the screen.
In WM6.5, only answer the phone "off screen when close to the face" of this sensor will light. But one under the andoird not closed!
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This is not a one example! Because the human eye can not see, to use the camera to see!
HD2 handset next to the two sensors, one for light-sensitive, one for close to face to close the screen.
In WM6.5, only answer the phone "off screen when close to the face" of this sensor will light. But one under the andoird not closed!
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How did you get this problem? I mean it's in Chinese or something like that
Edit: Ahh.. you just used google translate. But I really don't understand what he wants to say
t1h5ta3 said:
this is not a one example! Because the human eye can not see, to use the camera to see!
Hd2 handset next to the two sensors, one for light-sensitive, one for close to face to close the screen.
In wm6.5, only answer the phone "off screen when close to the face" of this sensor will light. But one under the andoird not closed!
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非常感谢你!!!!!!
What he likely is saying is that the led of the proximity sensor is on all the time in android while it is only lit in WM during a phonecall. If that is true, it is a potential battery drainer. With a camera you can see the infrared light, that is why he posted the piccas. Might be a serious issue, but I did not verify.
I don't think this is an issue as such, as infrared viewed with a camera is white... In them photo's, it's a vague red. I could be wrong though. Think this might need some dev input.
To prove the point, get a camera, and TV remote, and point and press a button of the remote to the camera. You will see it glow white !
hd2 orginal have two sensors but in the android onlyone work ! why?
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I don't think this is an issue as such, as infrared viewed with a camera is white... In them photo's, it's a vague red. I could be wrong though. Think this might need some dev input.
To prove the point, get a camera, and TV remote, and point and press a button of the remote to the camera. You will see it glow white !
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In wm6.5, it will only listen to the phone work. But in android, regardless of when the are working.
To prove the point, get a camera, and HD2,You will see it glow white !
hd945157206 said:
hd2 orginal have two sensors but in the android onlyone work ! why?
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你不要说英文!
HD2运行andoird时,有一个传感器一直在工作,发出光! 而这个传感器在wm6.5的情况下,只会在接听电话时才会工作!
这个传感器发出来的光人眼看不到,只能用摄像头才能看到! 可能因为这个原因所以一直没有人发现.
如果你能翻译一下的话就更好了! 让这里的高手们知道这个问题! 这个BUG会一直浪费电! GOOGLE的翻译不行!
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In wm6.5, it will only listen to the phone work. But in android, regardless of when the are working.
To prove the point, get a camera, and HD2,You will see it glow white !
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ggguuuys!!!!
GSM guy is right, use a camera and point it at the sensor you will find the white light blinking while in android, where as in WINMO it doesnt, it blinks during calls only!!!
Could be a battery drainer, could be not as well !!!
lets hope hope the devs are aware of this !!!
mally2 said:
ggguuuys!!!!
GSM guy is right, use a camera and point it at the sensor you will find the white light blinking while in android, where as in WINMO it doesnt, it blinks during calls only!!!
Could be a battery drainer, could be not as well !!!
lets hope hope the devs are aware of this !!!
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Didn't mean to start an argument or anything, all I meant was going by his pictures, I couldn't really see much of the 'white' infrared you normally see in a camera.
But you say that it blinks, that would make more sense now - I have no way of testing it until I get home as i'm at work at the moment
cool man, try it out and let us know, its a good topic for discussion
mally2 said:
ggguuuys!!!!
GSM guy is right, use a camera and point it at the sensor you will find the white light blinking while in android, where as in WINMO it doesnt, it blinks during calls only!!!
Could be a battery drainer, could be not as well !!!
lets hope hope the devs are aware of this !!!
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yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FerretAD said:
Didn't mean to start an argument or anything, all I meant was going by his pictures, I couldn't really see much of the 'white' infrared you normally see in a camera.
But you say that it blinks, that would make more sense now - I have no way of testing it until I get home as i'm at work at the moment
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It don't matter!
I know that this pictures is easy to suggest that it is false.
I just want to let developers know this BUG.
I'm home now, and i've tested it... And your right, the infrared is on in Android, and off in WM except when your making a call.
What i've forgot to test, is the infrared still on when the screens off in Android ?
I can't test at the moment as i'm currently putting a new WM ROM on, and then a new Android build on.
gsm127 - Them pictures aren't misleading. What I thought was infrared looks white through a camera, but it's not - It's actually a shade of purple (Like in your photos). Only thing is, is the infrared is on, and pulses every second. That also happens in Android !
Has anybody pointed this out to the dev's ? Do they read these sections ?
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I'm home now, and i've tested it... And your right, the infrared is on in Android, and off in WM except when your making a call.
What i've forgot to test, is the infrared still on when the screens off in Android ?
I can't test at the moment as i'm currently putting a new WM ROM on, and then a new Android build on.
gsm127 - Them pictures aren't misleading. What I thought was infrared looks white through a camera, but it's not - It's actually a shade of purple (Like in your photos). Only thing is, is the infrared is on, and pulses every second. That also happens in Android !
Has anybody pointed this out to the dev's ? Do they read these sections ?
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cool man, we now have proof, its definitely could be a battery drainer reason , any one know how to log into IRC and let devs know
Des? know that?
Maybe you should change de thread title ?
Hi !
Maybe you should change de thread title to a brief description of what you found ?
To make it more "visible" to other people
Congrats to have found that !
Regards
bump,
there is another thread running about the same issue,
DONT LET IT DIE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9947428#post9947428
Hi,
The day when I got my HD2, the camera hasnt been that good.
Sometimes it takex excellent pictures, but many a times it doesnt.
I upgraded to the stock ROM 2.XX and now running the latest Elegancia ROM.
Sometimes the camera just tries to focus and then just takes what is possible.
But yesterday i compared mine with another HD2 (also with the stock ROM) and the other phone takes amazing pictures.
Could it be a Hardware problem?
One more thing that I have noticed.
usually i do not like to set the Image preview on. But many at times, I hear the click and as I decide that the image is taken, the picture appears to be stuck and later refreshes. Turning the Image Preview On resolves this problem.
Its like as if the camera has become faster and more responsive.
Any clues for the image quality? or the Auto Focus ?
I havent tried the registry tweaks etc,
I tried setting ISO to 100 ,
Flicker to Auto,
Image quality to Normal.
Elgancia rom has camera issues I had a problem where they came out really blurry or the flash and the camera would make everything white. If I was you I would flash it back to t-mobile stock rom and check if it makes a difference if not maybe its your phone.
You more than likely have original release HD2 hardware. What color is your reset button? If it's red then you do indeed have first revision hardware, and the camera not working properly is a known hardware fault, and most of the time T-Mobile will replace your device free of charge because it's a known problem.
ashasaur said:
You more than likely have original release HD2 hardware. What color is your reset button? If it's red then you do indeed have first revision hardware, and the camera not working properly is a known hardware fault, and most of the time T-Mobile will replace your device free of charge because it's a known problem.
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You think thats what it is ? I got mine the first day it launch and works fine and then flash it to elegancia rom and came out crappy. I will look for some samples photos of stock and the custom. The reception issue I still have it as well my battery last around 8 hr annoying.
Reply and analysis.
Thank you everyone
ashasaur said:
What color is your reset button?
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yes its red
ashasaur said:
You more than likely have original release HD2 hardware. .... T-Mobile will replace your device free of charge because it's a known problem.
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Aahh now there is a catch. I am in india, my brother bought this for me from ebay USA. So i guess i will have to live with it. Thank you for this clarification.
Others, please check your phone camera quality. as the other HD2 I have checked has good quality. Otherwise its an amazing phone. It has been the best buy so far.
Elgancia rom has camera issues
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I dont know that, But I dont think either. My camera issue has been from day one. Elegantia ROM has made my phone faster and more elegant I would say.
But I assure you, I would check back the Stock ROM later and let you know
Meanshile, i would also ask steve about the same.
Or.
Maybe if someone else had this issue and got it fixed ?
Wonder if there is any fix that i can try.
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-HD2-T85...273194?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item255d9bac2a you can replace the camera if you wanna get down and dirty.
Now with the 7740 mango update out could there be any hope for the camera drivers to work better with the HD2 since the Titan is from HTC? Or has this been a lost cause since most people are satisfied with the Candlelight no flash settings. J.W.
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Now with the 7740 mango update out could there be any hope for the camera drivers to work better with the HD2 since the Titan is from HTC? Or has this been a lost cause since most people are satisfied with the Candlelight no flash settings. J.W.
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the problem is that the camera in the HD2 is kinda old now, unless a new device is released which uses the same camera we're out of luck with newer drivers.
The irony is that the actual CCD in the HD2 is more than capable of taking really good photos, even by todays standards, but the optics on the HD2 suck big time, which is why we have never had decent poor light photos.
All I want is for the green tinge to be gone. I found photos and videos of fairly decent quality otherwise, just would love to have an opportunity to take party pics and not look like a mermaid. The only solution for me at the moment is to use Android when taking pics, but Mango has better sharing facilities.
enigma1nz said:
All I want is for the green tinge to be gone. I found photos and videos of fairly decent quality otherwise, just would love to have an opportunity to take party pics and not look like a mermaid. The only solution for me at the moment is to use Android when taking pics, but Mango has better sharing facilities.
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See i only get that green tint when the flash is on, i sware its to do with the timing, it seems like the flash turns off ever so slightly too quick,
Now light its self travels at a constant, but when that light interacts with different things, ie glass, different colours end up slowing down more than others, think of it like this, the harder something hits it, the easier it is to pass through, light has more or less energy depending on the frequency, which basically means some light ends up going faster than others as it passes throgh objects.
I think that the flash is turning off too quick meaning some of the light isnt actually making it to the CCD in time giving us a funny tint.
Id hazzard a guess that if you took off the screen protected to the camera or its IR filter it would actually be ok
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See i only get that green tint when the flash is on, i sware its to do with the timing, it seems like the flash turns off ever so slightly too quick,
Now light its self travels at a constant, but when that light interacts with different things, ie glass, different colours end up slowing down more than others, think of it like this, the harder something hits it, the easier it is to pass through, light has more or less energy depending on the frequency, which basically means some light ends up going faster than others as it passes throgh objects.
I think that the flash is turning off too quick meaning some of the light isnt actually making it to the CCD in time giving us a funny tint.
Id hazzard a guess that if you took off the screen protected to the camera or its IR filter it would actually be ok
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YukiXDA fixed the green tint issue, and then unfixed it (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14473423&postcount=438). It seems that the flash is not in synch with the shutter opening, and at the moment of the shutter opening the LEDs are warming up(or cooling down) and are not giving the correct colour.
I think xbmod's hardware solution of removing the IR filter is fine if you only use WP7.5 on your HD2. But for those of us dual-booting, with a perfectly good camera on android, it seems a drastic measure, especially as the effect on the android camera are unknown as yet (no reply from xbmod to my question, maybe he does not dual boot).
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YukiXDA fixed the green tint issue, and then unfixed it (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14473423&postcount=438). It seems that the flash is not in synch with the shutter opening, and at the moment of the shutter opening the LEDs are warming up(or cooling down) and are not giving the correct colour.
I think xbmod's hardware solution of removing the IR filter is fine if you only use WP7.5 on your HD2. But for those of us dual-booting, with a perfectly good camera on android, it seems a drastic measure, especially as the effect on the android camera are unknown as yet (no reply from xbmod to my question, maybe he does not dual boot).
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Aye, thats what i said
Same cause same effect, just a different why!
Hadnt realised xboxmod had already done that, seems quite an extreme method!
you know, we're assuming its to do with the camera, there is every chance its actually the LED drivers thats buggered.
dazza9075 said:
Aye, thats what i said
Same cause same effect, just a different why!
Hadnt realised xboxmod had already done that, seems quite an extreme method!
you know, we're assuming its to do with the camera, there is every chance its actually the LED drivers thats buggered.
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True, of course a simple solution is to set white balance to fluorescent or incandescent when taking photos under low light conditions (options not available to HD2 until SP1 I think), but it would be better to have a permanent solution.
hd2的相机驱动何时能有进展啊~~