Ok so i updated to 2.2 using the qdl tool., everything seems to be working fine but I dont have 3g symbol, just a H which seems to be getting good speeds, does the H replace 3g?
muddy00 said:
Ok so i updated to 2.2 using the qdl tool., everything seems to be working fine but I dont have 3g symbol, just a H which seems to be getting good speeds, does the H replace 3g?
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Yes! it does. It means you're getting 3G speeds.
muddy00 said:
Ok so i updated to 2.2 using the qdl tool., everything seems to be working fine but I dont have 3g symbol, just a H which seems to be getting good speeds, does the H replace 3g?
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Yes its the european version of 3g.
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European version!? OMG.
where do you get your info from?
BrokenPixel said:
European version!? OMG.
where do you get your info from?
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Its no big deal the uk will use the h instead of 3g.
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I'm pretty sure it stands for HSPDA which I think is high speed PDA.
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High Speed Packet Data Access
HSDPA, High Speed Downlink Packet Access
HSUPA, High-Speed Uplink Packet Access
carhigh said:
I'm pretty sure it stands for HSPDA which I think is high speed PDA.
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Yes thats what it stands for but he updated through qdctool ihas the O2 version and they use the h instead of 3g.
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ATT, for whatever reason dumbs down their phones to not distinguish between the older UMTS 3G and HS*PA flavors which are technically 3.5G. Most unlocked (read non-ATT) phones on ATT will show up as H when they're getting their fastest speeds, although I have an old Nokia that actually has a '3.5G' indicator.
In short, if your phone says 'H', it's better than '3G'.
Nosfrat said:
HSDPA, High Speed Downlink Packet Access
HSUPA, High-Speed Uplink Packet Access
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Thanks for the correction! All those letters can get confusing, and where I am, no one but me cares what they mean, so when I am wrong, nobody is here to correct me...
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ATT, for whatever reason dumbs down their phones to not distinguish between the older UMTS 3G and HS*PA flavors which are technically 3.5G. Most unlocked (read non-ATT) phones on ATT will show up as H when they're getting their fastest speeds, although I have an old Nokia that actually has a '3.5G' indicator.
In short, if your phone says 'H', it's better than '3G'.
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When I updated thru the QDL tool, I had the H on the 305 or 309 (whichever one it was)...then when I put DJSteve's 1.5.1 on my Streak, it went back to 3G.
Two questions:
1. Can I go into the build.prop files and change a line somewhere to get the H back?
2. If the answer to Q1 is yes, is it really going to get the faster speed, or is it just gonna give me the H instead of the 3G symbol?
borijess said:
Yes its the european version of 3g.
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carhigh said:
I'm pretty sure it stands for HSPDA which I think is high speed PDA.
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johdaxx said:
ATT, for whatever reason dumbs down their phones to not distinguish between the older UMTS 3G and HS*PA flavors which are technically 3.5G. Most unlocked (read non-ATT) phones on ATT will show up as H when they're getting their fastest speeds, although I have an old Nokia that actually has a '3.5G' indicator.
In short, if your phone says 'H', it's better than '3G'.
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anyways. its not european, its hsdpa not hspda. and the reason you see 3g instead of hspa on att devices can be for multiple reason. the obvious is that people see it and think "herp derp, im not on 3g! att suxors". another reason is that it will just show up as 3g on android 1.6 on most any device. and unless its told to show, if hsUpa is deactivated, the H wont show and att has made it a habit to remove hsupa from as many phones of theirs as they can.
tmotytn said:
2. If the answer to Q1 is yes, is it really going to get the faster speed, or is it just gonna give me the H instead of the 3G symbol?
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If I install Ferrari badge to my Fiat would it go faster?
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muddy00 said:
Ok so i updated to 2.2 using the qdl tool., everything seems to be working fine but I dont have 3g symbol, just a H which seems to be getting good speeds, does the H replace 3g?
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H > G and if you ever see N your streak connected at 'Nirvana' speed, there is just no faster than 'N', yes your streak does support N speed as well but only temporarily and only when you let it go above 5m (~15') high
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If I install Ferrari badge to my Fiat would it go faster?
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Only when you're in Italy
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Well, not sure if anyone else has had this issue with their G2 yet, but I got mine today and found that the 3G/HSPA+ (I'm in Austin and we're an HSPA+ location) doesn't work. Edge is working fine, wireless works fine, but I had no hi speed data.
Spent a while on the phone with T-Mobile and they tried everything. Swapped SIM cards for the new one, master reset, checked my coverage area, checked my account, etc. No dice. Phone has been deemed defective. Grrr...my brand new G2 birthday gift. Oh well, replacement is being shipped out.
oh that just sucks... oooooooo i need to get home and open mine also now! and pray for the H lol... hspa+ area also
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
The "H" means you definitely have HSPA. The only way you'll know the difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is probably the speed. Unless there's something in the testing menu that shows you the difference.
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it should actually say "H+" if you in a HSPA+ area
The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
Du22ty said:
The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
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you are correct.
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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Ellises said:
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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You probably won't until they throw the switches on in all areas of your town. only like 10% of the towers in mine actually use HSPA+... the other 90% at still on HPSA/UTMS. Give it more time...
This is the one single aspect about the G2 that kicks the N1's butt. The 3G connection and radio reliability is awesome! Everything else is a wash for me. I'm actually starting to like the keyboard a little, too.
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I git a h g the e my house sucks I only get e inside ill test it out speed test tomorrow when im not home
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Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
robertgibson said:
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
sccpmusc26 said:
I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
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Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
pmstc said:
Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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http://www.dailytech.com/TMobile+Expands+4GLike+HSPA+Network/article18741.htm
I've also called to verify. Columbia doesn't have HSPA+, Charleston does.
pmstc said:
Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
sccpmusc26 said:
That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
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Oh wow, I feel retarded. In my defense, it's not marked on the map! I hope the Greenville/Anderson towers reach Clemson!
Telus 3G icon and H icon
If I can ask for one more clarification.
Up here in the Great White North I am with Telus who has HSPA+ coverage in my area : Montreal (no 2G available at all)
The icon on my Desire shows 3G unless I am accessing data then it flashes the H with the up and down arrows.
I am assume this is correct and the "H" only makes an appearance when it needs to access the data network. The rest of the time it stays as 3G
Important today as they had major connection issues and the H was not appearing even when I was trying to browse or update Facebook.
robertgibson said:
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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H is hsdpa
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zephirus said:
Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
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Yeah. I've seen speedtests on youtube and the G2 has been so disappointing. I was all excited to see 8Mb download speeds then it gets... 600Kb? WTF is that?
Heck, in one video the dude tests the G1 and G2 side by side in Speedtest and the G1 won! This is enraging! HSPA+ is T-Mobiles biggest marketing tool right now yet they made no effort to even see if it worked.
So, as most of you should know, as G2 owners we do not have an icon for 3G and we have an H icon instead. Since the H is supposed to also represent HSPA+, when T-Mobile changes their marketing strategy from calling HSPA+... HSPA+ to 4G, do you guys think that we will get some sort of update that will give us a 4G icon AND a 3G icon?
That would be nice if that icon was included. I don't think it will be though. I use 'Netswidget' to identify which network I'm connected to.
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marqi.k said:
That would be nice if that icon was included. I don't think it will be though. I use 'Netswidget' to identify which network I'm connected to.
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I use that too, and it still doesn't help. It only shows as HSDPA, whether I'm on 3G or HSPA+.
I just dislike it shows "H" even if I am on UMTS.
ostinq said:
I just dislike it shows "H" even if I am on UMTS.
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So do I, hope when we get custom roms on this, devs can change it and have the icon showing what we're connected to.
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I kinda like the H, its something different.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/itu-lays-down-law-wimax-2-lte-advanced-are-4g-everyone-else-i/
ITU lays down law: WiMAX 2, LTE-Advanced are 4G, everyone else is a buster
It's all marketing crap. It's not real 4g.
H is da new G
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
Blackman778g said:
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
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So what you're saying is that you're so G you're H?
I like the H because it gives me the idea that my 3G speeds are crazy fast, even if it isn't at all times. I usually get 2-4mpbs which is close to my current ISP if not better
Corylulu said:
It's all marketing crap. It's not real 4g.
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True! More like 3.5g !
starfcker69 said:
True! More like 3.5g !
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought HSDPA was 3.5g and HSPA+ was closer to 4g... And from what I've seen so far HSPA+ gets faster speeds then the 4G wiimax offered by Sprint.
Blackman778g said:
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
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lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
H > G
bwilborn said:
So what you're saying is that you're so G you're H?
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Hell Yeah!! Im So H!!!
G is old news H is the future!
havikx said:
lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
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Yeah Sidekicks have the G3 a.k.a. 3G ....... Well it was cool at the time saying "I got the G3!!"
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lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
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That wasn't a 7, it was the antenna.
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With current 4G speeds TMO can say that there HSPA+ is 4G but only until WiMax and LTE gets optimized to there theoritical speeds that define them as 4G. When that time comes TMO can no longer claim they have 4G.
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Hey your answer is yes. The gingerbread update will give us G2 users a 4g icon and a 3g icon...
Source
CodeMonkey-10 said:
Hey your answer is yes. The gingerbread update will give us G2 users a 4g icon and a 3g icon...
Source
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Lmfao at the grave-digging of this topic. Almost all the custom roms have dealt with this.
Secondly i have installed that rom and it's not true. It does not switch back and forth like say cyanogen does between 3g/h.
Does anyone know if the G2 displays hspa+ in the phone signal? I only see UMTS or HSDPA and I live in Dallas which supposedly was one of the first cities to get HSPA+.
I've searched around but I have never found any concrete evidence regarding the issue. Fastest speed I've seen is about 6 Mbps, which I think is just standard 3G.
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Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830907
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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StockDroid said:
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
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Which part of Dallas were you in when you got those speeds?
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papeshfoo said:
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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Surely you mean if it says HSDPA it's either on HSDPA or HSPA+ ?
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Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830907
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I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
Davidion said:
I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
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umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
papeshfoo said:
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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I was rocking a N1 before and it clearly was on HSDPA... This was months before HSPA+ was officially released in Chicago.
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umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
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Is that so? My mistake then.
My phone almost never stays on G and if nothing else, is only on H and fluctuates to edge in some of the weaker signal areas.
G = gprs
e = edge
h = umts/hsdpa/hspa+, (3g/"4g")
g<e<h
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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That does seem pretty rubbish, if it shows "H" even on when you're on plain 3G speeds.
Just so everyone knows. This discussion is not about the H in the status bar. We already know it displays H for all high speed connection types.
It is about the network type displayed in the staus and how to determine if you ade on HSPA+.
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SRed13 said:
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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I do use that and I see 3G and H, but I assumed I would see H+ when it goes to HSPA+.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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Its showing me h all the time. My hspa+ speed sucks then lol I only get like 3mbps.
[G2/HTC Vision]
It will never say hspa+ just hsdpa
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I occasionally get HSPA+ from where I live and even then, my speeds are below 1 Mbps. At least the rest of you are approaching 3 or better, I'd kill for that.
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Does anyone know if its possible to remove or disable HSPA+ from a rom? I just wanna use 3G cause the HSPA+ is just to slow?
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CarneDeluxe said:
I just wanna use 3G cause the HSPA+ is just to slow?
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That doesn't make sense.
It's almost like saying 3G is slower than Edge.
How's your signal strengh?
HSPA+ is a faux 4G standard, you can't utilise HSPA+ on an HTC Magic.
Same here
I also have the same problem. I understand HSPA+ is supposed to be faster, but it runs really slow on my G1. Getting back to the point, does anyone know how to disable it? I am running Biffmod 2.1
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Does anyone know if its possible to remove or disable HSPA+ from a rom? I just wanna use 3G cause the HSPA+ is just to slow?
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Its your phone or the rom im runnin HSPA on my mytouch and its fast.
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CarneDeluxe said:
Does anyone know if its possible to remove or disable HSPA+ from a rom? I just wanna use 3G cause the HSPA+ is just to slow?
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OP. Shouldn't HSPA+ be faster. Im pretty sure our phones (HTC MAGIC) doesnt support it. The 4G and the G2 do support the HSPA+. I think u are using 3G, but the coverage is just bad in your area. Try going to the closest "big" city, tmo likes spamming hspa towers there
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I also have the same problem. I understand HSPA+ is supposed to be faster, but it runs really slow on my G1. Getting back to the point, does anyone know how to disable it? I am running Biffmod 2.1
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You're confusing HSPA+ (which your phone does not support) with HSPA, HSPA is part of the 3G standard which allows higher bandwidth. Due to a number of factors, such as how bandwidth is split among users, this does not mean you will get faster speeds, just that the network has the capacity to carry them.
What ROM are you using?
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CarneDeluxe said:
Does anyone know if its possible to remove or disable HSPA+ from a rom? I just wanna use 3G cause the HSPA+ is just to slow?
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For those not interested in debating the theoretical speeds of T-Mobile's 3G and 4G service with the OP on a 3G only device -
Yes, do a search on editing the build.prop file in your system folder.
Find ro.ril.hsxpa and set to ro.ril.hsxpa=0
Individual results vary, may have to reboot more than once to flush the old settings. If it really really sucks, just change it back.
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Hey guys just a question. I know rooting the Dell streak can get you on the hsdpa(or something like that) network but is that the 4G speed? If not is there a way right now to get 4G on the streak?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/2g-3g-4g-and-everything-in-between-an-engadget-wireless-prim/
with that in mind, what do you define as 4g? if you are referring to hspa+ or lte, im not sure, but if you are referring to the actual definition of 4g then i doubt it, but we have to wait for it to be invented first
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/2g-3g-4g-and-everything-in-between-an-engadget-wireless-prim/
with that in mind, what do you define as 4g? if you are referring to hspa+ or lte, im not sure, but if you are referring to the actual definition of 4g then i doubt it, but we have to wait for it to be invented first
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I was wondering when someone would do a write up of all that. I have yet to try AT&T's new 4G but I'm sure it's as fast as my rooted HTC Aria's HSPA+
You will not get 4g with the streak just 3.5g.
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4G is only the nick name of hspa, which already support hsdpa up to 10Mbps or more and also HSUPA up to 5.76Mbps. All those are 3G TECHNOLOGY as increasing slightly. All.the 3.5G and 4G are 3G tech which develope faster and faster.
3G comes with max speed 384kbps.
and then 3.5 come with HSDPA up to 7Mbps
then 4G comes with HSDPA upto 14Mbps and HSUPA 5.76Mbps
but truely no cellphone providr gave u that max speed as the costumers are sharing bandwidth.
To acces 4G u dont need dell.streak, u can use nokia 5800 which already support up to 4.6Mbps.
Its really depends on your device which is support hsdpa and hsupa , and also depends on your networks provider how fast they can give u. I believe that if u are inside the elevator u will have only gprs or even worst with no signal or sos symbol.
CMIIW ( correct me if im wrong )
I was actually wondering about this as well as AT&T is now advertising 4G "using our existing HSPA network" and after installing StreakDroid I'm seeing the H up top instead of a 3G. That said my speed is typically 2mbps - 3mbps which is somewhere around the 3.5 range mentioned above. Still much faster than I had on my iPhone (and sometimes faster than DSL when the network is having issues.)
I don't really care about this at all. I was just curious. Since it was out on the market now. Hopefully see you all soon on the STREAK side of life
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I don't really care about this at all. I was just curious. Since it was out on the market now. Hopefully see you all soon on the STREAK side of life
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The dell streak will never run on 4G speeds. The streak was not built to handle 4G. Sorry to break it to you.
Heck, I'd like it if at&t could at least offer 3g speeds.. I never even see 2m let alone 7s.. :-/