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Can we stop bashing new people in here please

I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!

Can you give us example what you're saying?

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justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714574

justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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You being serious?

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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100% agree!
Well said!

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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Somebody needs a nap ....
But on a serious note I guess we should just stop having rules altogether ....
If bashing people is what you call expecting people even newbs to follow the rules then I guess bashing it is ...
Not totally disagreeing with you, but partially , yes sometimes vets are harsh with newbs, but if 500 people walked up to you and asked you the same question over and over how long would it take for you to get tired of it ....

ok then i just have my rule
Well I dont want to continue because it seems the majority of vets are annoyed at new users. So now I will have this rule from now on to make things simple. Any time I see this behavoir towards newbies , I will post a link to www.ppcgeeks.com . So since newbies are a problem to the vets here, I will redirect them to different website. That should handle all the problems.

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
It's very easy to pop in here and create ANOTHER useless thread asking everyone to be nice to the newbies.
All the senior members here were all newbies once. All the chefs and developers were newbies too. They didn't get to be where they are by starting up useless HELP ME threads because they were too lazy to get off their behinds and help themselves.
I've been here since 2006 and my post count very recently crossed 500. I've hung out at XDA almost every single day since the day I officially joined and about another year before that without being a member. I've learnt A LOT over here and given everything that I've learnt, if I were to have posted a HELP ME thread everytime I wanted something, I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now. Think about how many threads and posts we would have from heavily contributing members if they were to take the HELP ME route.
I've been around here so long and know enough people here that no one would have an issue with me opening a thread for any query that I have, yet I don't... why? because XDA is a repository. Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
I can understand how overwhelming everything can be for a newbie, but that still doesn't excuse the HELP ME threads. SEARCH, Look around, do your due diligence and you will find what you need. Nothing comes easy. You have to work for it. Google Search makes things exceptionally easy. Use it and stop crapping this place up.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet. I swear to god, if I was a mod here, the trash can would be overflowing.
Please... stop these incessant rants.
@zarpy.. PPCGeeks is miniscule compared to XDA. Trust me, the mods and the members over there take care of their forum more aggressively than XDA. It's only a matter of time before they start booting LAZY newbies.

Yeah I agree with this, I find it funny like people were born with the knowledge and talk to people who are clueless like they were never in there shoes before. I myself just got a HD2 not to long ago never really used a phone of the sort with apps and etc. I am however tech smart with PCs and like to learn on my own as it benefits you in the long run so I've picked up the basics just by doing. But not everyone is tech smart especially with phones as a lot of it I do not have a clue what it means even though I am tech smart, but I'm learning what does what slowly and how to install different types of apps, games, and themes
If some of you veterans with these phones disagree with this, your simply a liar and should go play in a fire

rumz82 said:
You being serious?
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Don't you want to understand what is going on, before you're saying?

Can someone explain what this has to do with "Themes and Apps" please?
Honestly...Noobs...

Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.

justwonder said:
Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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LOL... Oh boy that was funny. LOL

HELP ME IM NEW and opps i had caps on four icons to look goodier lyke iphone has

I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all. Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted? I'm willing to bet a very small percentage did infact, READ ALL of the rules. So many (not all) of you really have no room to point fingers.

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ROFL AT THE OP!!!
OMFG you actually started a thread because someone detailed a few rules!!
And the example you posted of getting bashed....i just reported the entire thread for closure as it is a complete waste of time...much like this one!!
Thanks for the chuckle over breakfast... most hilarious!
wolfee said:
I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
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Bingo!!
wolfee said:
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
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Regardless you wouldnt start new threads asking "Whats that app called....."
or another find eg is the one here "Please help me install icons" i mean WTF, if the guy has icons, he got them from a thread right? EXACTLY, so y not post the question there? common sense no?
wolfee said:
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
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Im sorry to sound like a jerk, but who the hell cares about this....
first forum rule is "USE ENGLISH"
therefore who gives a crap, if you cant speak the language use one of the million free translators and post in English, followed by your native language.
wolfee said:
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
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Ok the reason you would get bashed is if your asking easily findable questions.
Someone ask a dumb question i think they should get bashed, before i answer ANY questions i google search for an answer, if i find one on the first page, the the person asking the question will get no answer and flamed/bashed.
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The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all.
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How about people dont post stupid questions? do you ever think that with the size of this site, the vet users dont get p*ssed off with noobs asking the same things over and over again?
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Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
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these peope with compasion, while good for you, they are actually bad, because in stead of forcing you into a position where you actually have to search after being bashed and told that it is a stupid/easy/useless question they just give the answers.
wolfee said:
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
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WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!
WTF man, seriously you think we should spend our time teaching noobs?8 years ago i used to get smashed to pieces but the likes of Olipro, and if you think people bash now you should have seen him when he was about...wow...i think you would be crying in the corner!
I run 2 HUGE threads in this forum, and i got that sick after the thousands of idiots that couldnt even be bothered to read the instructions and just posted things like "Help i cant do it"
we need more Olipro's to get rid of the IDIOT noobs who CANNOT BE ARSED SEARCHING.
TEACHING ROFL, jes, would you like me to come to your house and dress you for school too?
wolfee said:
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
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Again more rubbish, people not a days are just too LAZY to do things for themselves.
how about this "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer"
ROFL PWNED!!!
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Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted?
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Yes
and initially i asked stupid questions and i got flames and bashed, but i wasnt a ***** and i didnt cry about it ans start threads asking people to stop bashing me.
i learnt that if i was getting bashed there was a reason and i accepted that, where as now we hae the folowing:
1: Guy ask Stupid Question
2: Vets Bash
3: Guy crys
4: Guy opens more threads asking about "why am i getting bashed"
5: vets see the thread and get more P*ssed dish out mroe bashing
6: Guy crys more
7: Guy posts the eg of why he gets bashed in the new "why am i getting bashed" thread
8: Vets come along and thing WTF is this guys problem is he stupid?
here is the ULTIMATE easy solution
Search using xda search, search using google search, when posting your question past in the URL for the results of your search so people can see how you searched/what terms you used
then i Guarantee there will be no flames, and probably a few suggestion on changing search terms etc

Read and Search is the key to not posting usless threads
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now.
Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet.
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Couldn´t be more than agree with you leepriestenator, except for the part of the 10k posts
I am almost there
P.S Mods please move to proper discussion place

MG
I know alot of people read Mystics Genius post and thought damn cavemen exist in this day and age.
Laughing my a&+) off hahahaha you said 8 years ago you got bashed here by olipro. Your join date is 2008 its 2010 .....hahahahha where"s your math teacher he did a horrible job hahahahaha.
You this thread was opened by a newbie that wants to know why he got thrash. Your english teacher didnt teach you how to read properly hahaha.
Iam a vet here , I opened this thread because Iam tired of this attitude thats starting to take place.
You remembered when you used to get bashed and thrashed , so you think its right. How dumb are you , so if your dad beat you everyday, does that mean you beat your son? I hope not!!! You suppose to learn , but you stayed aan idiot all this time. 8 years and you learn nothing hahahahaha your the true definition of moron. Iam not mad, I think your a joke hahahahaha.

I just hope you guys don't expect your doctors, lawyers, police officers and everyone else of importance in life to answer your questions...that have been asked and asked over and over again. The answers to your heart problems are on the internet. A little Bing search will find them. You don't need to bother your doctor with clarification questions.
Please stop harrassing your lawyers. They answer the exact same questions you ask time and again. They must be so sick of answering those questions over and over again. All of the answers you can think of are clearly posted online. Do a search of Google or Bing and stop asking your important people questions.

hmmm.... i feel that as newbie

Chef For Hire Wanted

Looking for someone in the Northeastern PA / Northwestern NJ area who might be willing to train me (or hold a class for a very small group) on how to cook, so that I (or we) can get started, but with the wisdom of an experienced chef to avoid the perils and mistakes that I'm sure would otherwise beset noobs venturing forth.
Please touch base via PM, or feel free to discuss here so that others who might be interested can follow along.

Interesting...lol
Your best bet will be to start cooking, and learn how to search. Cooking is not something you go to a class and learn!
Just my 2 cents....peace

ai6908 said:
Interesting...lol
Your best bet will be to start cooking, and learn how to search. Cooking is not something you go to a class and learn!
Just my 2 cents....peace
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Says who?!?!? Anything can be taught by a willing teacher. There's nothing that can't be broken down by someone to its component steps and imparted to others. With a handful of folks in the class, perhaps it can even be a paid gig.
Just sayin'. If you're not interested, fine, but don't discourage others from considering the idea.

he is no discouraging u lol..
people from here learn to cook best rom by experience and knowledge that they share with others...
for the first time thy are same as u and me..
u can be same as they now but it will take time..
ofcourse teaching through your future dream class reduce time but something u will find hard to do when u alone...
so dont wait just start by yourself..
this thread only show your impatience nothing else coz there are more then enough tut...

Folks, please keep your opinions to yourself and confine your replies to responding to the request, or not. The opportunity here is to have a fun and informational environment where an experienced chef can impart his (her) wisdom and experience to others, and also possibly spin off a user group going forward. If you have nothing intelligent to add (which seems to be the case here so far) then please don't comment.

BillTheCat said:
Folks, please keep your opinions to yourself and confine your replies to responding to the request, or not. The opportunity here is to have a fun and informational environment where an experienced chef can impart his (her) wisdom and experience to others, and also possibly spin off a user group going forward. If you have nothing intelligent to add (which seems to be the case here so far) then please don't comment.
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and u r so intelligent that u have open a thread to find cooker for u...
lets see whst happens to thid intelligent people class..
your intelligence shown itself not mine coz u have a lot to learn not me..
understand

saurabh88 said:
and u r so intelligent that u have open a thread to find cooker for u...
lets see whst happens to thid intelligent people class..
your intelligence shown itself not mine coz u have a lot to learn not me..
understand
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Guys, this is exactly what I meant in my last post about impertinent, unsolicited opinions.

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Guys, this is exactly what I meant in my last post about impertinent, unsolicited opinions.
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sorry brother...
i was out of my mind .
if u need any help dont hesitate to ask..

No need for all the hate in this thread.
Your idea is a good one. I would consider it if I didn't live 3000 miles from you,

Gingerbread officially released! How long will it take for it to come to Leo?

here you can read more about our beloved new version of Android, version 2.3!
sooo, im' asking you, how long do you think it will take to our developers to have it running smoothly on leo?

How the hell should we know ???

There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?

pr0x2 said:
There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?
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Yup!
10char

I already gave infinitybiff the system.img from the 2.3 sdk. So, soon people!
Sent from my Decepticon using XDA App

OMG Ur Really Asking a Dumb question
It Will Take As Long As Xda Developers will take dont worry about it and let them do their hobbie(they arent getting paid for it) and eventually we will get it this thread will most likey jst pressure them more

Why Flame Just because someone asks a question?
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!

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I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Agreed. =)

Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)

doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?

lomniom said:
Agreed. =)
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Agreed It wasn't pleasant when I start asking questions and I got sent to the "Box-of-silence" for "spilling-the-milk"...

asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Finally someone said it. Completely agree
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

domineus said:
doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?
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If people do not like multiple threads, complainers, then why contribute to them by taking up space and jabbering comments? Kinda contradicktory; if the DEVS don't like it then they'll delete it, simple.

asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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+1 ...i totally agree. some get ignorant for no reason. it's like they try to belittle others.try to sound one step smarter than the next person..and for what? what do you gain? i also hate when someone takes advantage of the post system and talks down to someone with less posts.
just because one has less posts then another doesn't mean they know any less. it just means they recently joined this forum. doesn't mean they are noobs.

2.3
Correct me if I am wrong here but since 2.3 is a revision of 2.2 wouldn't it be a case of just updating the kernel and booting away??
Eg relatively minor work compared to the whole getting android on to HD2 in the first place.

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Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)
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Oh hell yeah. Saw this earlier, but didnt even realise that it was my post that you were talking about. Biff has already tried to start booting, but no luck yet. Motoman and M-deejay are on it as well.

geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!

stirkac said:
geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!
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to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.

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to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.
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thanks and respect to you! also includes deadmansink's post

and all those who hate devs, suck big time

well,i have been visiting xda for many months now,i really appreciate the excellent work done by devs ,but then this mod editand few other people come out and start shouting on the devs that they are not doing anything good or better,well i hate these kinds of people and i want the moderator or chairman or whoever runs xda developers site to thr mod editkind of people who demoralize devs out of this site and block them so they don't come back again to participate in the forums,they are a shame to devs society

They criticise the dev's work but they are the first to use their work lol

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They criticise the dev's work but they are the first to use their work lol
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yeh is always the way lol want all new stuff but refuse to learn to how to make stuff, i would start to learn but i have no idea where to start XD i think dev are going a great job, we have custom rom's, emulated dual touch and soon ip tables (bring on the wifi hot spot) and all while working on boot loader bypass.

treebill said:
yeh is always the way lol want all new stuff but refuse to learn to how to make stuff, i would start to learn but i have no idea where to start XD i think dev are going a great job, we have custom rom's, emulated dual touch and soon ip tables (bring on the wifi hot spot) and all while working on boot loader bypass.
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The devs are giving all their efforts to make X8 a greatest cellphone, and they are in the good way! Thanks devs!

+1 to block this kind of people
Sent from x8 using XDA premium

yeah some action must be taken

Subject: some members
Type: impatient unreasonable kind of people
Description:
These people exist in every bit of this miracle called Internet.
Behaviour:
Their behaviour is very simple. It can be written as scenic text.
[subject desperately wants something for his/her phone/something. comes to forum]
S(ubject): Y'ALL SUCX NOT BRINGING ANYTHING TO SCENE Y'ALL SHOULD BE BANNED WHEN WILL NEW KERNAL APPEAR YA N00BZ.
[developers come in to defend themselves]
D(evs): hi, chill down, we're making progress, we have our own life too, it will come
S: YA SUCX. I LEAVE THIS FORUM. ALL LIAR SELFISH BASTARDS.
[dev release new "kernal". big red letters say "this is alpha. do not report bugs. only for devs. do not spam this thread"]
S: YA FAGGET, MORON, WHY THIS NOT WORKS THAT NOT WORKS, WHY ALPHA, YA SHOULD HURRY I WAIT FOR THIS TOO LONG, IF YA CANT MAKE IT WHY EVEN BE HERE
[dev release final 100% working kernal version. again "do not spam"]
S: WOW SIR MASTAR YA AMAZEING SOO COULL WHEN NEW KERNAL 2.6.90 BE RELEASE YA KNEW, GOOD WORK BUT THIS TOO MUCH OUTDATED YA MUST SWITCH TO NEW KERNAL
[and so on]
~~~
Analyst: Blagus
EOF

@blagus
LOL, I like your analysis
Sent from my E15i

You people are IDIOTS. I DON'T HATE DEVS! All I said was there are few devs. That's all. NOW STOP SPAMMING YOU ****ING TROLLS!
EDIT: Read all the damn threds and you'll see my opionions about them.
@blagus I hope your not reffering to me, I NEVER had such behaiviour.

Here is what I see:
You are posting negative opinion about some devs (like you said) and complaining about x8 development progress, and lot of people don't like it. And then you call them idiot, stupid, etc. It's just make it worst because they think that you spread negative influence and demoralize devs and x8 users. So why don't you just say sorry and we all make a peace, honor for the dev's work, wait and hope the best for x8 development, OK...
Sent from my E15i

CaptainZap said:
@blagus I hope your not reffering to me, I NEVER had such behaiviour.
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no, that's definitively not you. however, you made mistake by saying something that feels like this behaviour and of course, people will react. how would you feel if you were dev like racht and someone came to your thread saying something like "i dont see much/any progress (lately)"... of course you would be at least a little bit pissed off, which would lead to piss-off chain reaction similar to the one in atomic bomb
i think that we can forgive him this, at least because it his approach wasn't so aggressive as sometimes it is (take a look at, for example, i9000 development, at some places you'll find people fitting in my analysis)...
because this fight won't bring us anything but negative energy and feeling accross the forum, making it even worse... although i'd really love to be admin and ban forever everyone who seems to be debbie-downer...
this is just a friendly post
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i don't care about captain zap or anyone whether they have slightly or hugely demoralized devs ,the bottom line is that if these kind of more people succeed in demoralizing devs hugely then we won't be having any new innovation from devs,so its necessary to set a big example for those people who criticize devs once and for all ,

these people like captain zap are not worth to be a part of xda!

/thread Your *****ing won't get you nowhere. You people are just stupid spoiled brats that have nothing else to do than blame me for the lack of updates from the devs. Last time I answer to kids, from now on you'll be ignored. THIS FORUM IS A PLACE FOR GROWN-UPS WHO KNOW HOW TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

Don't feed the troll... It 'll go away eventually...

i think this thread shouldn't be started at the first place. kinda flaming captain zap. everyone doesn't like what he did/say in development section. come on, leave it.
agree with argpsi ^^ there

The devs are doing a good job.They put their efforts on ROM and modules developing.We should give them thanks and the devs will feel that their efforts are not useless. Remember,they are not doing careers,they are just like volunteers only.
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Peace, don't be such a kid,
why saying irrational words man?
see, this kind of attitudes are not for "grown ups"
grown ups tend to act accordingly without saying "*****es" "Idiots" and "****ing Troll"
hey, i think this is what a kiddo does.
anyway. Pls stop this flaming thingy,

CaptainZap said:
You people are IDIOTS. I DON'T HATE DEVS! All I said was there are few devs. That's all. NOW STOP SPAMMING YOU ******* TROLLS!
EDIT: Read all the damn threds and you'll see my opionions about them.
@blagus I hope your not reffering to me, I NEVER had such behaiviour.
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...when someone is developing something and give it to the comunity, we just dont have the right to citisize him.
...I dont know if this threat is right to exist...
Blagus talked about real things that happend, not for someone that might hate devs.
Anyone who want more devs, grap a book and start reading linux programing (see you in 2 years).
Most people that insolt devs are some 13- years old boys that dont know anything about programming.
(Some times post meaning are translated wrong and we got wrong results about that people say.
To those how hate devs: Stop talking about devs and think how many people you have helped...0 ....and... you want medical help my friend...)
Dont attack to Capten Zap, ok he did a mistake but he did it only onse and it wasnot so serius...
...CAN WE FORGET THIS THREAT?..

.when someone is developing something and give it to the comunity, we just dont have the right to citisize him.
...I dont know if this threat is right to exist...
Blagus talked about real things that happend, not for someone that might hate devs.
Anyone who want more devs, grap a book and start reading linux programing (see you in 2 years).
Most people that insolt devs are some 13- years old boys that dont know anything about programming.
(Some times post meaning are translated wrong and we got wrong results about that people say.
To those how hate devs: Stop talking about devs and think how many people you have helped...
+1 to your comment,thats exactly what i want to say

@Lenn Thanks for destroying my Archos!

Hey Gen8 Community,
I am wild about Lenn. He destroyed my Archos 43 with installing Urukdroid!
I still can't believe it! He destroyed my Archos 43 (Grrr). I ask him if he can install Urukdroid on my Archos 43.... He said: ,, Oh yes that's easy". Some minutes later he said ok done! I wanted to start it and I just got a blackscreen. When you hit the Powerbutton the light turn into green but the screen will be still black. The batteries are full. So I'm asking you, what can I do now? If you want, I can record a video of this.
edit He doesn't know how to fix!
And sorry for my bad english it's because I'm upset.
And Lenn you suck (sorry xda community for this,but I'm wild about that ****ing Lenn)
And I hope you can understand me!

congratulations
ahhhhhhh hahahahaha.....
how funny you are.... not smart enough to do it yourself and then mokking at others who helped you doing what you want.
that was bad luck and could happen by doing yourself, too.
sry youre stupid!

ArchosRocker said:
Hey Gen8 Community,
I am wild about Lenn. He destroyed my Archos 43 with installing Urukdroid!
I still can't believe it! He destroyed my Archos 43 (Grrr). I ask him if he can install Urukdroid on my Archos 43.... He said: ,, Oh yes that's easy". Some minutes later he said ok done! I wanted to start it and I just got a blackscreen. When you hit the Powerbutton the light turn into green but the screen will be still black. The batteries are full. So I'm asking you, what can I do now? If you want, I can record a video of this.
edit He doesn't know how to fix!
And sorry for my bad english it's because I'm upset.
And Lenn you suck (sorry xda community for this,but I'm wild about that ****ing Lenn)
And I hope you can understand me!
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er....do you still can boot into Recovery menu? (press Vol- and Power)

LeoNg628 said:
er....do you still can boot into Recovery menu? (press Vol- and Power)
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No I can't do anything =(

How old are you? 2?
The not waking up is known problem,and if you had searched here for it, you would have found alot of answers.
Hardreset is working always, as you can't brick your archos, not even you.
So before acusing someone else, erst an die eigene Nase fassen.

No knowledge
Hay,
first you should know that I have no knowledge and Lenn said to me I should make it because he said it's GREAT and bla bla bla. But like it seems, it destroyed my Archos. Send me the post to fix that and I send it Lenn + my Archos to fix that ****!
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1 thing is still why Lenn do nothing say here? Are you scared?

So you are to lazy to read and search yourself?

fzelle said:
So you are to lazy to read and search yourself?
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definitly, lazy troll..
@archosrocker did you pay lenn for this "service"? if not, don't expect anything.

What a poor guy...
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That's terrible If you want to post it to me I can environmentally recycle it for you.

chulri said:
definitly, lazy troll..
@archosrocker did you pay lenn for this "service"? if not, don't expect anything.
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No, Lenn talk me into doing it.

tryfarming said:
That's terrible If you want to post it to me I can environmentally recycle it for you.
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Hey try just to charge your battery , had the same effect ...battery was empty !!!

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Woow, what's a collaborative and helpful contribution !!!
If anyone of you has the answer, why don't you give him a constructive answer instead of telling him to search by himself and to sue him ???
About the original "contributor" who told him he could use Uruk on his device, the least someone who recommends someone else to use a custom ROM is to do his best to help him to recover his original environment, or to recover a functional system.
I contribute more in the Galaxy tab and android-x86 forums, and when I'm not 100% sure if a custom ROM can work on the SGT or any other devices, I'll never recommend anyone to flash one on it. If I do recommend one, then I'll never leave him alone and will do the best to help...
I didn't like your past behaviour, but still, I gave you useful informations.
What you're just doing, is to confirm what I said and thought about the Archos team... ^^
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Yes I understant the problem u got with those contributions - but hey - sry but this thread is not worth commending on it usefull imho...
This guy has a "bricked" archos - ok
Someone talked him into - well - seemed he agreed with that before
He opened a thread here - thats fine - but READ THE TITLE AGAIN
HE DOESN'T WANT HELP imho - most of this post is for ragin and marking Lenn,... I don't think there is space for this in this forum.
The things he typed in red and extrax large are NOT "help me please - how can i unbrick" - but just for harrasment
Anyway - anyone has to learn on his own way - if u agree with someone doing something to you device - perhaps ask about the background next time...
ALL THE THING WICH ARE DONE HERE ARE WITHOUT WARRENTY - AND ITS ALWAYS SAID U VOID YOU WARRENTY AND MAY BRICK YOUR DEVICE WITH THOSE - you could have known this after a secound reading here... and since u are registerd sicne march - u should know...
EDIT: regarding your post history u got UD up and running since march so u know what u have. And another cite
ArchosRocker: I use urukdroid atm because its the best and i test things with lenn for $auron , but if honeycomb for android is coming i take it then (i think) ;-) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13782656&postcount=12)
(anyway as said before: Urukdroid normaly can't brick a device - perhaps flashing SDE can since there are changes to boot menu... I dont know)
I don't know what he told u before or not - AND I DON'T WANT TO KNOW IT.
If u got a personal problem with someone TALK to HIM and don't use the internet for spamming other pll about personal differences.
GROW UP
If u rly would like to have help open a PROPPER thread and STOP the flamewar.
Forum Rules:
2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and/or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive, therefore none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
Hope a mod closes this thread soon!

Something is up here. Lenn usually would have chimed in by now. Just like the rest of the thread here in the Gen8 forums, half the posts are his....

I fully agree with FrEcp

+1
and it is very simply to return on the 4.3 it original

What is this? Definitely someone needs a vacation.

Arobase40 said:
Woow, what's a collaborative and helpful contribution !!!
If anyone of you has the answer, why don't you give him a constructive answer instead of telling him to search by himself and to sue him ???
About the original "contributor" who told him he could use Uruk on his device, the least someone who recommends someone else to use a custom ROM is to do his best to help him to recover his original environment, or to recover a functional system.
I contribute more in the Galaxy tab and android-x86 forums, and when I'm not 100% sure if a custom ROM can work on the SGT or any other devices, I'll never recommend anyone to flash one on it. If I do recommend one, then I'll never leave him alone and will do the best to help...
I didn't like your past behaviour, but still, I gave you useful informations.
What you're just doing, is to confirm what I said and thought about the Archos team... ^^
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Sorry, but people should read before doing anything to their device. If I'm not sure about something, simple...I don't mess with my phone. At least you need to read 3 to 4 pages in the thread and look for what works and what not. Everyone is old enough to do this and neither a member or any other person is responsible of your device rather than you, simple as that. We do not spoon feed NO ONE, this is XDA DEVELOPERS, remember the last word .