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HTC P4350 Heraldn and T-Zones

First time using a touch-screen, non-tmobile Windows Mobile phone and Im stuck on how to use the itnernet on this thing!
I do have the T-Zones, $5.99 unlimited data plan, and works perfectly fine with internet browsing on my dash.
How do I go about using it on the Herald? I've never configured internet on an unbranded phone before. I would just enter the phone number and have the settings sent, normally anyway
anyway, I'm editing the port to 8080 and using wap.voicestream.com over the Cellular Line (GPRS)
and using the 216.155.165.050 but still no go? Any help is appreciated. Just got it and am thinking about selling it if I can't get the internet to work with T-Zones
I've searched, but everyone has stuff on their Wings with T-Mobile software, not OEM Herald

To my knowledge you cant get T-zones on the Wing (Herald). IT required that 29.99 data plan.
But you can try to go to your network settings and great a new modem that goes to wap.voicestream.com. You may already have a setting that you could edit or create a new phone.
If anyone has a better solution please post but i havent seen T-zones as an option for Heralds.

mrbrady12 said:
To my knowledge you cant get T-zones on the Wing (Herald). IT required that 29.99 data plan.
But you can try to go to your network settings and great a new modem that goes to wap.voicestream.com. You may already have a setting that you could edit or create a new phone.
If anyone has a better solution please post but i havent seen T-zones as an option for Heralds.
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actually your wrong i have tzone on my wing and everything works. the internet works and the im works. SO UR NOT REQUIRED TO GET THE 29.99 DATA PLAN

kay11224 said:
actually your wrong i have tzone on my wing and everything works. the internet works and the im works. SO UR NOT REQUIRED TO GET THE 29.99 DATA PLAN
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Thanks for updating. Thats why i ask for someone else to post cause i really wasnt sure. Has having a Wing myself and not using t-zones i wasnt 100%.
Now with t-zones do you get full web or is it limited version?

kay11224 said:
actually your wrong i have tzone on my wing and everything works. the internet works and the im works. SO UR NOT REQUIRED TO GET THE 29.99 DATA PLAN
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how do you get it to work if you dont mind sharing? And do you get internet like full internet or is it limited

Is this some type of hack?
I work for tmobile, and the wings should not be alloud to use unlimited tzones to access the full internet.. tzones if for like movies, directions, yellow pages, quick searches, ect. Not full browsing.

mystikz2002 said:
First time using a touch-screen, non-tmobile Windows Mobile phone and Im stuck on how to use the itnernet on this thing!
I do have the T-Zones, $5.99 unlimited data plan, and works perfectly fine with internet browsing on my dash.
How do I go about using it on the Herald? I've never configured internet on an unbranded phone before. I would just enter the phone number and have the settings sent, normally anyway
anyway, I'm editing the port to 8080 and using wap.voicestream.com over the Cellular Line (GPRS)
and using the 216.155.165.050 but still no go? Any help is appreciated. Just got it and am thinking about selling it if I can't get the internet to work with T-Zones
I've searched, but everyone has stuff on their Wings with T-Mobile software, not OEM Herald
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Your problem is the number is wrong. I had the same issue and when I changed it to 216.155.165.50 and not .050 it worked fine on my tzones $5.99 plan. I have full browser capabilities, I even use google maps connected to the web. All the other settings are ok. Make your the port is 8080 and not just 80. The only issue I have is whenever I want to connect via wifi then I have to uncheck "this network connects to the internet" and re-enter it if I want to use gprs-edge again.

I found a way around T-Mobile's G1 data plan!!

If this has been posted already I'm sorry. I picked up a G1 the other day and didn't buy the data plan yet because I was still using my Kaiser. I boot up the G1 and followed the steps to create a new Gmail account. As expected...it was unable to connect online. I hit the menu button and the APN setting option popped up. I then changed the all the US regions to wap.voicestream.com and it worked. Try it out guys!!

LvDisturbed1 said:
..then changed the all the US regions to wap.voicestream.com...
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do you mean tmobile US, tmobile US 160, tmobile US 200, so on till tmobile US 800?
change 'em all?

i think even with that tmobile will still tag on the G1 Data plan automatically onto your account....wont they?

twistkill said:
do you mean tmobile US, tmobile US 160, tmobile US 200, so on till tmobile US 800?
change 'em all?
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Yes, I changed them all.

eboy44 said:
i think even with that tmobile will still tag on the G1 Data plan automatically onto your account....wont they?
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Yeah tmobile will send you a message that you don't have a G1 data plan and will tell you to add it or they will turn off all your data.

3G
LvDisturbed1 said:
If this has been posted already I'm sorry. I picked up a G1 the other day and didn't buy the data plan yet because I was still using my Kaiser. I boot up the G1 and followed the steps to create a new Gmail account. As expected...it was unable to connect online. I hit the menu button and the APN setting option popped up. I then changed the all the US regions to wap.voicestream.com and it worked. Try it out guys!!
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The only issue I can see is 3G not working, however if you don't live in a 3G area... then what does it matter right?

theguynamedkem said:
The only issue I can see is 3G not working, however if you don't live in a 3G area... then what does it matter right?
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I live in Las Vegas, and get 3G just fine with this workaround.

Does anyone know the settings of the original APN's? I originally deleted them to avoid being charged for data.
Name:
APN:
Proxy
Port
Username
Password
Server
MMSC
MMS proxy
MMS port
MCC
MNC
APN type
Thanks.

i still don't quite understand...
you mean changing all the name to wap.voicestream.com?
i don't have data plan of any kind at all...is that a way to activate it? like using wi-fi later on?

I think your only option is to do a factory reset, dshyang50. The usernames and passwords are hidden and we don't know what they are.

wait so i dont get it....does tmobile automatically tag on the data plan after a certain amount of time?
if not then im going to go get me a G1 tomorrow!

eboy44 said:
wait so i dont get it....does tmobile automatically tag on the data plan after a certain amount of time?
if not then im going to go get me a G1 tomorrow!
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Wap.voicestream.com is the server for the standard internet data plan with t-mobile. Its cheaper than the G1 data plan, which connects you to a different server. This workaround only works if you have the standard internet data plan.

but like it was said if you do the workaround tmobile will find out and tell you to get the data plan for the g1 if you dont then they will freeze all dat ato your phone which will pretty much make the g1 useless if you dont want to pay for the data plan for the g1 then why would you purchase the g1 makes no sense it is a data phone

jenol said:
but like it was said if you do the workaround tmobile will find out and tell you to get the data plan for the g1 if you dont then they will freeze all dat ato your phone which will pretty much make the g1 useless if you dont want to pay for the data plan for the g1 then why would you purchase the g1 makes no sense it is a data phone
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The point is the G1 data plan is NOT necessary. It's just T-Mobiles BS excuse to make more money. They told us that the phone would only work with the G1 data plan and I called their bluff. If they try to freeze my data plan, they can suck it. I don't particularly enjoy being lied to and if they try that crap with me I WILL take it to court and the media.

LvDisturbed1 said:
The point is the G1 data plan is NOT necessary. It's just T-Mobiles BS excuse to make more money. They told us that the phone would only work with the G1 data plan and I called their bluff. If they try to freeze my data plan, they can suck it. I don't particularly enjoy being lied to and if they try that crap with me I WILL take it to court and the media.
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HAHA I will be looking for you on the news. But no offense I won't hold my breath waiting for it.
So they say you need a data plan that you may not actually indeed need. At least it is cheaper than the other companies around. If I remember correctly sprint and verizon both tried to tell me I needed a data plan for their winmo devices. I didn't sign because of that.

LvDisturbed1 said:
and if they try that crap with me I WILL take it to court and the media.
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People like you crack me up. Don't burn yourself on McDonalds coffee.

dshyang50 said:
Does anyone know the settings of the original APN's? I originally deleted them to avoid being charged for data.
Name:
APN:
Proxy
Port
Username
Password
Server
MMSC
MMS proxy
MMS port
MCC
MNC
APN type
Thanks.
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leave username n password blank....u shouldnt have deleted anything....n tmobile doesnt automatically do anything....the only diabolic thing they do is try to sell u the plan like its necessary. Just edit the apns to wap.voicestream.com or internet2.voicestream.com nuttin else

I had the data plan and tried this...it works but like others have stated you are limited to what you can use. I have since then upgrade to the G1 data plan.
Up to you if you want to fully use the phone or not.

well in my opinion not to knock anyone down why get a data eccentric phone then not have data thats like getting an iphone without a data plane just unreal so stop being cheap or get a plain phone ridiculous i tell yeah now nobody take offense to what i just said im just stating my opinion you like buying a house and not paying for water light gas insurance know what im saying

Wouldn't you still need the total internet plan - that is $19.95? The G1 plan is $5 more per month, big deal. And now you get 3G.
Just pay for the data plan and do things legit - it's STILL cheaper than AT&T's iphone dataplan.

Proxy internet for HD2 on T-mobile?

My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick

When the HD2 launches it will have a required data pack just like all other windows, blackberry's and android devices currently do. If a discount is recieved on the device then the data pack (minimum $25/month) is required, paying full retail price is the only way not to have it. T-zones is no longer offered by itself for $5.99/month unless your plan is a grandfathered plan that supports it but would only be able to be used if the phone was purchased at retail.

NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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i use tmobile in uk if the proxy box is ticked my mail dosent load.

T-Mobile USA now uses the device IMEI for data plans
The proxy trick does not work anymore on Tmobile USA, they now use the phone's IMEI number to verify that the phone is on the correct data package. It works for about 24 hours now then when you try and access the internet you are sent to a screen to add the correct data package.

Proxy internet for HD2 on T-Mobile
I have T-mobile with the $5.99 T-Zones. I used it on the DASH and am now using it on a Touch VIVA. If I buy the HD2 from T-Mobile with no contract are they still going to force me to get a data plan or will my T-Zones stop working. I want to keep my T-Zones and may have to get an ulocked phone.

NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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I'm currently with AT&T and about to switch to T-mobile when the HD2 comes out. When I spoke to the T-mobile rep., (trying to get him to set me up on the cheap data plans instead) He told me T-mobile can tell what phone you are using and know if it is on the correct plan. He also stated that if the phone is unlocked then you can trick their systems into letting you keep your old plan. Now again, I dont know if this is true or not, I am about to switch...hopefully this month, I'll find out then.
With AT&T, I have an old data plan (unlimited internet, 1500 text, 200 MMS) and I pay $19.95/month. they have never made me change my data plan and I am using the Tilt2. If you go through the priemer business website to upgrade your phone, they dont give you the $50 discount and you get to keep your data plan unchanged....all other channels force the upgrade with an updated data plan. Again, the only way around that is to buy your phone from someone else, unlocked, or have warranty dept. swap out your phone for a different model. My nephew has the $10 data plan and is now using the Tilt2 on it via warranty swapping out his phone for a different model (the Tilt2).
I know on the AT&T service you do get the 3g speeds, so I assume it will be the same for T-Mobile (but then again assuming may not be the best way to go). Hope that helped

I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?

NickPDX said:
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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from what I was told, everything should work correctly and at the correct speed, as long as the phone is unlocked. The cell phone service providers don't seem to really offer different speeds at different rate plans like the cable internet companies do.

I had not seen your message from earlier ... we posted at the exact same time. Thanks though for your input. I will let her know. It seems like it is worth a try. Worst case scenario, she has a great phone but she has to use Wifi to check her mail and such.

NickPDX said:
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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every other site works u can download email via direct site.then i noticed o2 network has its proxy unticked so when i was using tmobile i unticked it.now i can download email auto.
there was on promotional offer in uk.£10 top up u get unlimited txt and web.i used it on my htc shift as modem for a few months tmobile has no complained about going over fair usage policy on web unlike other networks.

MMS Working On AT&T Network?

Has anyone been able to get MMS working on the T-Mobile HD2 using AT&T's network?
I downloaded and installed the network wizard cab from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=250891&d=1259353814
Still cannot get MMS to work. I also made sure the proxy was enabled. All settings appear to be correct, is this AT&T pouting because they didn't get this device?

so your tmoUS HD2 is unlocked?

Yes, it works...
I have a T9193 operating on ATT in the US. MMS works great (you can send photos, videos and others) without a hitch.
All I did was install a ROM from the many ones available here (I'm no expert; I used one of Artemis' ROMs). Works great.

DSmithZ28 said:
is this AT&T pouting because they didn't get this device?
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I and many other AT&T users have been using this phone since its European release and have had MMS working without a hitch. For $10 a month data plan and edge speeds ~500 +, I don't really see AT&T making a fuss whether it has this phone or not.

Yeah, I got mine unlocked over the weekend at htc-unlocker.org... 30 bucks but it was worth it....
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get my MMS working... Text is working, Data is working, but no MMS.... Any ideas??

hey guys i figured out how to get mms on tmous hd2.
1.http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88058&d=1211735066 install this first
2.the install http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=269964&d=1263970936 then your mms will me enabled

Yes!
I had previously set up my Edge network and it took me awhile to find the MMS settings.
From the Home page go to...
Messages/All Messages/Menu/Settings/Options/Menu/MMS Server/New
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: 66.209.11.32 (This is wireless.cingular.com)
Port number: 80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: MEdia Net
Sending size limitation: 300k
WAP Version: WAP 2.0
Then use menu and set it as default.
Go get your messages!!!

Hows the speed on edge? I am thinking about buying Tmobile HD2 and use it on AT&T.

Thank god I found this, hopefully
Well, I have been at this since 1pm on 3/30 and it is now 3am on 3/31. Just as I was about to call it a night I found this and thought it might be where I need to be at. I copied Paradigm_Shift's settings which is something i had been looking for all night, since the HD2 input is different from pretty much everything else on att forums, etc. So i have Paradigm's MMS settings. My next question for your Paradigm is what is your MediaNet set to?
Quick backround, i got my HD2 about 2 days before with the wal mart glitch, called tmobile for a free unlock (even though it wasnt out and i wasnt a customer ever, no idea how that worked). Got my unlock code the day the phone was released. And just today (yesterday now) realized i couldnt do MMS. I have unlimited texts with AT&T which include MMS so i know thats not the problem. I just know it has to be my MediaNet settings. So if yours is working, Paradigm, would you mind posting and I can compare? Ive honestly exhausted wwhat I thought was every possible way, so im hoping when I see yours or someone that has MMS working, i will find my error and be on my way with the best/sexiest smartphone eva! Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Like i said, ive been at this for essentially a day and had to post. The closest thing i ever found was this which contained a cab file that created media net profile but apparently doesnt work (obviously):
..... okay nevermind, i guess n00bs cant post links so ill just say it was on a site called fuzemobility and the author was Doug Smith, his latest article.
Thanks again. Ill be checking this tomorrow after work........ which is in 4 hours. FML. This phone has already consumed me.
Oh yes, quick side note- theres no way for AT&T to tell what phone we have and force a data plan onto us (for those of us that dont) since this is technically a tmo phone, right? *Fingers crossed*

mutantblack said:
Hows the speed on edge? I am thinking about buying Tmobile HD2 and use it on AT&T.
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I really have not noticed much of a difference.
But there is this....
AT&T users: +500kbps on EDGE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627318&highlight=edge+speed
I will be testing it today.

Paradigm_Shift
Any response to my first post?
Thanks if you do.

Finch44 said:
Well, I have been at this since 1pm on 3/30 and it is now 3am on 3/31. Just as I was about to call it a night I found this and thought it might be where I need to be at. I copied Paradigm_Shift's settings which is something i had been looking for all night, since the HD2 input is different from pretty much everything else on att forums, etc. So i have Paradigm's MMS settings. My next question for your Paradigm is what is your MediaNet set to?
Quick backround, i got my HD2 about 2 days before with the wal mart glitch, called tmobile for a free unlock (even though it wasnt out and i wasnt a customer ever, no idea how that worked). Got my unlock code the day the phone was released. And just today (yesterday now) realized i couldnt do MMS. I have unlimited texts with AT&T which include MMS so i know thats not the problem. I just know it has to be my MediaNet settings. So if yours is working, Paradigm, would you mind posting and I can compare? Ive honestly exhausted wwhat I thought was every possible way, so im hoping when I see yours or someone that has MMS working, i will find my error and be on my way with the best/sexiest smartphone eva! Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Like i said, ive been at this for essentially a day and had to post. The closest thing i ever found was this which contained a cab file that created media net profile but apparently doesnt work (obviously):
..... okay nevermind, i guess n00bs cant post links so ill just say it was on a site called fuzemobility and the author was Doug Smith, his latest article.
Thanks again. Ill be checking this tomorrow after work........ which is in 4 hours. FML. This phone has already consumed me.
Oh yes, quick side note- theres no way for AT&T to tell what phone we have and force a data plan onto us (for those of us that dont) since this is technically a tmo phone, right? *Fingers crossed*
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Wow, really glad to have helped.
Here is what I used...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362586
The path there is lightly different.
Home Page/Settings/Wireless Controls/Data connection/Advanced/Select Networks
And I only used the MEdia Net settings.
He also has an additional connection "AT&T ISP:"
which is used for tethering. (I currently do not know if we are going to need this b/c of the possible wifi router ability).
I found this additional support information from AT&T. It gives you a solid foundation.
MEdia Net: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB84444
MMS: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=62373

Plot Thickens
Thanks a lot for the response Paradigm. Honestly, this post started with "Looks like the search continues." But no less than 10 seconds ago, i got the HTC jingle that my message had downloaded!!!!! Oh my god! Honestly, the only thing i noticed that I changed were PORT numbers for proxy. Just because I know how stressful this was for me, I am going to post pictures of each page of the MediaNet setup when I get off work to hopefully help someone else.
Again, thanks Paradigm a thousand times. Its funny because I do remember getting that site from google earlier in the night, but I was so sure the medianet settings were already set correctly from a cab file i downloaded. So happy to see I now get my MMS
Of course, this amazing news is somewhat dampended by the following text I just received from AT&T -
"Did you know a data plan is required for your SMartphone?"
followed almost immediately by the text
"Your smartphone requires a data plan. We had added the appropriate plan for your smartphone. Call 611 for more info"
*Sigh* So I guess my hopes and dreams of staying on my wifi undetected are thwarted once again by AT&T. I just dont get it though, its not an AT&T phone so how did they figure it out? I even posted/asked multiple forums (albeit all but xda, of course ) if buying the HD2 and unlocking it to AT&T if AT&T would be able to figure it out and incur data charges/plans. If you google that phrase Im sure it is my question your reading, lol. And essentially every answer was no. I dont know, maybe ill have to resort to this cooked ROM stuff? Not sure if that will help or not. Im gonna call the 611 number and try and explain that I popped my SIM card in someone elses phone for a day to test it out. Hopefully it will atleast buy me some time to figure out a way around it.
I have MoDaCo's NoData .cab program installed so I know the only data being sent was for MediaNet (for MMS).
But again, Paradigm, thanks for atleast getting me to receive MMS. I now understand why XDA rules. If anyone has any advice/tips/etc on my now current dilemma, go ahead and post it and Ill give it a shot.
Look to seeing those pics posted sometime after i get off work around 5ish (arizona/west coast time).
Happy I decided to join the community.

Finch44 said:
Of course, this amazing news is somewhat dampended by the following text I just received from AT&T -
"Did you know a data plan is required for your SMartphone?"
followed almost immediately by the text
"Your smartphone requires a data plan. We had added the appropriate plan for your smartphone. Call 611 for more info"
*Sigh* So I guess my hopes and dreams of staying on my wifi undetected are thwarted once again by AT&T. I just dont get it though, its not an AT&T phone so how did they figure it out? I even posted/asked multiple forums (albeit all but xda, of course ) if buying the HD2 and unlocking it to AT&T if AT&T would be able to figure it out and incur data charges/plans. If you google that phrase Im sure it is my question your reading, lol. And essentially every answer was no. I dont know, maybe ill have to resort to this cooked ROM stuff? Not sure if that will help or not. Im gonna call the 611 number and try and explain that I popped my SIM card in someone elses phone for a day to test it out. Hopefully it will atleast buy me some time to figure out a way around it.
I have MoDaCo's NoData .cab program installed so I know the only data being sent was for MediaNet (for MMS).
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Hmm, I wonder if AT&T and T-Mobile are sharing IMEI numbers for certain devices.

Exactly
Ya, thats the only thing I can think of. I know I messed with alot of internet settings in order to get MediaNet working but at worst I would think AT&T would think "Hey he's just accidentally hitting browse or something"
I just dont see how its possible. Im trying to log in online to see if my phone shows up as a smartphone or still my ancient SE W510i.

hey i posted it on post 6

Current Phone
So I just checked online and it says my current phone is:
RIM
7290
but still shows a picture of my W510i.
So obviously the HD2 wouldnt be in their system and this is possibly their default unit when it doesnt recognize/have the phone in their system

eastside770
IN response to: eastside770 hey i posted it on post 6
I downloaded both of the files and installed them in that order. Then I couldnt find anything to do with them on my phone? I went to file explorer and all i can click on is a voicemail icon and an MMS icon that does nothing. Does this require a ROM mod or anything? I apologize if its obvious. Like i said, this is my first smartphone But ya, I installed both of them on my storage card, good to go. Soft reset. Nothing new though: Where am I supposed to see these apps at or see the results/edit them?
Thanks,
Ryan
Also, is this in response to getting MediaNet set up or so AT&T doesnt know Im on a another phone (I dont know, maybe this messaging client hides stuff from AT&T somehow )

They sent you a lovely text about implementing a data plan on your phone because you're using MMS! MMS requires network data (not your wifi) so when someone sends you an MMS or you send them an MMS, it goes through the MMS proxy server that you set up...and VOILA...AT&T knows that you're transmitting data when you don't have a data plan.
So to recap in case you're still wondering why you're getting slap with a data plan:
SMS - no data plan required
MMS - data plan required
If you can't live with MMS, call them up and said it was a mistake and that now you're using an old phone (that's not a smartphone) and just ask them to put you on the regular medianet ($15) plan rather than the PDA/Smartphone ($30) plan that they're putting you on. You save $15 a month and get text as much MMS your heart desire.

I Understand
lude219 -
I understand that. Dont worry Ive asked this before. MMS is included with Unlimited SMS for my plan on AT&T, as is IM as long as it is one of the programs pre-installed on the phone, so it doesnt require a data plan. I have triple checked this. Trust me, ive been going on MMS with no charges on my W510i for the last 3 years, and just recently called about 2 weeks ago to confirm MMS doesnt charge in preparation for the move to HD2. Im going to call and ask. But thanks for the MediaNet tip, kind of like the Tzones hidden plan with Tmobile. Ill give it my best.
Thanks for trying tho lude219! All help is appreciated

Can I use $9.99 interent plan on my HD2?

Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?

Doubtful and if you are going to get a discount on the phone you need to get the $30 data plan.

hkpkguy said:
Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?
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No I don't think you can. You could even call t-mobile and ask them. Or are you trying to see if you could sign up with that data plan without them knowing its for your HD2? lol

it worked with my n900 but my hd2 could only get an edge connection with apn internet2.voicestream.com. epc.tmobile.com didn't work at all.

25$ here...but yeah the $10 will be a waste as it will be utterly slow and I doubt it will work properly.
The plans are all correlated to the OS, i.e. blackberry uses the BB internet plan, android the android plan, and WM the WM plan

yes you can use it.
you have to set the apn to wap.voicestream.com or epc.tmobile.com

I don't know about that, but there is a new $20 plan. It is for smartphones, but says "Preferred Smartphone Unlimited Web Only". I changed to this the other day and don't see any diffence from the $30 plan.

Of course you can use it; you're experience will be different however.
You will not be able to fully browse the web except when clicking on web2go links. You will not be able to watch mobiTV, use the barnes and nobles link or use any other data-related resources under this plan.
You can still use voice+SMS; it will continue to function as normal.

Yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3G speed, i will be 2G speed.
just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
works on everything. mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and B&B download just fine

well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.

using the $5.99 T-zone and works just fine, webbrowsing, utube, gmap,... you name it. For $6, I can't complain about the speed.

Yep...I concur with the last two posters, T-Zones ($5.99) plans works fine with the HD2. In fact, it worked right out of the box, no configuration at all was needed on my part. The $9.99 plan should work the same.

mr2kqql said:
well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.
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I am on the same plan and have no problems using anything. As matter of fact my tzones is 5.99.....The only issue I have is having a 3G connection consistently.....

Same here 5.99 t-zones working fine I usually get consistent 3g connections.

Besides, depending on where you are the $30 doesn't give you 3G either. I get a beautiful Edge (and a spotty one at that) connection at home (mind you I live in the middle of Miami, FL).

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pcmedics911 said:
yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3g speed, i will be 2g speed.
Just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
Works on everything. Mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and b&b download just fine
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i know am dumb but can you please help me exactly wht to do use 9.99 internet plan to work on my htc hd2, like a brief instruction step by step, it would be big help
thnkx

Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan

Do you have to unlock the phone for Web2go to work ?

abofihmi said:
Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan
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Could you tell me how did u go about signing up for the t-zone? I can't seem to find it on their website.Thanks

I just tired the other day and i was told it's no longer available. You have to get the Web2go ($9.99/month) plan.