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So, I work for sprint (a retail store) and get people everyday that "didnt put in or set up a gmail email address" (lol) when they set up their phones, but set up the lock screen and enter in the wrong combination and lock themselves out. All I can do is hard reset the phone to get them phone functionality back... Anyone know of a way, or program, that could get them into the phone? Just to make my life easier than saying "Yes, I can get you access to your phone, but you're gonna lose all your texts and contacts..." lol
Their contacts should be sync'ing to Google anyway... so tell them to get over themselves lol.
I remember finding a way to reset the pattern lock without doing too much fancy work (app) but can't recall it now. Will look into it again and see if I can remember what it was.
lol they dont know their gmail address because they set it up, created a new account so they could get into the market, and then forgot it lol....
Remove Pattern Lock This should help, tested and works.
CSAT be damned, that's when i decide to be a jerk to them. If you can't remember the email account you used, then maybe they deserve it just a little bit.
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CSAT be damned, that's when i decide to be a jerk to them. If you can't remember the email account you used, then maybe they deserve it just a little bit.
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Yeah when I was still at sprint, there were always a few people I was willing to take a zero for, usually the people who swore they woke up with a broken screen and don't know how it happened. But back on track, if you can get the sdk installed onto the tech laptop you should be able to do this in a matter of seconds and keep the morons happy.
JT, can I make a suggestion? Ham it up before you restore their device. Tell them it's "damn near impossible normally, but I'm VERY good at what I do, so let me at least try my best", and tell them it'll take at least 30-45 minutes. I used to do that with bricked Blackberries, since nobody knew how to go into DOS on the tech laptop and fix it with command line.
Your CSAT will skyrocket, even if you treat them like they're dumber than a bag of wet hammers.
we have 1 corporate store in our city (my store), and 1 in the next city (a half hour away, in good traffic).. Our store doesnt do tech support, at all lol... Strictly retail... we can troubleshoot, but that's about it. I think I will start bringing in my laptop though, just for these few people (had 3 or 4 the last week... first couple had usb debugging and stay awake checked, so I could still get the contacts off. the rest, hard reset lol)
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CSAT be damned, that's when i decide to be a jerk to them. If you can't remember the email account you used, then maybe they deserve it just a little bit.
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if it is a tech issue we cant trouble shoot, we dont even pull up their account lol... but that's cause our store doesnt have techs lol
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JT, can I make a suggestion? Ham it up before you restore their device. Tell them it's "damn near impossible normally, but I'm VERY good at what I do, so let me at least try my best", and tell them it'll take at least 30-45 minutes. I used to do that with bricked Blackberries, since nobody knew how to go into DOS on the tech laptop and fix it with command line.
Your CSAT will skyrocket, even if you treat them like they're dumber than a bag of wet hammers.
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That's the quickest way to get a high csat, I used to do that to unlock phones when people would forget their passcode... have to love cdma workshop!!
I'm advanced tech, and I'll bend over backwards for a customer with a real problem. But if they forgot their pattern lock, and dont know their own email adress, I have no sympathy. If there was an alternate method that was easier and took less time without them losing data, id still hard reset.
sirstanley said:
I'm advanced tech, and I'll bend over backwards for a customer with a real problem. But if they forgot their pattern lock, and dont know their own email adress, I have no sympathy. If there was an alternate method that was easier and took less time without them losing data, id still hard reset.
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LOL...hahaha..
where do u work???
Sprint Advanced Tech. Escalations. If no one else can fix your issue when you call in, im the guy that calls you back.
Picture this:
Your alarm clock goes off.
The ONLY way that you can get your alarm to turn off is to go a certain spot in your house detected by your GPS. This would make you to have get up and go to that spot.
Not sure if this is possible or not because of the GPS not being able to detect such close differences, but if so I am willing to pay $50 to anyone that can create this alarm.
Is 3 freaking topics needed?
from my phone duh
I've got a cheaper solution for you. Why not place your phone across the room so that you have to get up to shut it off. I used to do that all the time. Works like a charm.
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Tasker can do this, but I doubt you can rely on GPS to be that accurate all the time.
nukedukem said:
I've got a cheaper solution for you. Why not place your phone across the room so that you have to get up to shut it off. I used to do that all the time. Works like a charm.
Sent from your mom's phone.
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+1 on this suggestion. Works like a charm and doesn't cost $50. The only issue is not being able to have your phone nearby before going to bed.
sent from my Warmed Up HTC Evo
LoungeLizard said:
+1 on this suggestion. Works like a charm and doesn't cost $50. The only issue is not being able to have your phone nearby before going to bed.
sent from my Warmed Up HTC Evo
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I think that it would be more fitting having to talk up stairs for me, but someone suggested tying the alarm into the phones accelerometer and making you take 25 steps before it shuts off, an even better idea.
jhoffy22 said:
I think that it would be more fitting having to talk up stairs for me, but someone suggested tying the alarm into the phones accelerometer and making you take 25 steps before it shuts off, an even better idea.
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That would never work for me - I know I would end up just throwing the phone across the room to shut it off
I can see this being a pretty DAMN EASY application to make.. I don't make apps..
But there is a program thats called "find my car" and its the same concept, mark a spot by using GPS and when you get back to that spot it says "found car"
So if someone was able to program using the codes from that program, i can see it being done fairly easy..
Mark spot for alarm to turn off, alarm turns on, walk back to marked spot and the alarm goes off..
In anycase, I don't see the point though, unless you are feeding a fish and you want to force yourself to walk to the fishbowl to remind you to feed the fish
Or maybe a cat?
fastfed said:
I can see this being a pretty DAMN EASY application to make.. I don't make apps..
But there is a program thats called "find my car" and its the same concept, mark a spot by using GPS and when you get back to that spot it says "found car"
So if someone was able to program using the codes from that program, i can see it being done fairly easy..
Mark spot for alarm to turn off, alarm turns on, walk back to marked spot and the alarm goes off..
In anycase, I don't see the point though, unless you are feeding a fish and you want to force yourself to walk to the fishbowl to remind you to feed the fish
Or maybe a cat?
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Haha, imagine the possibilities I wouldn't ever pee my pants again
While playing around with my new Lumia 920, I noticed that the Kids' Corner exhibits a behavior that essentially defeats the entire purpose of it: if I have a lockscreen PIN set, that PIN is required to either unlock the phone, or access Kids' Corner. If I have no PIN, then no PIN is required on either side. The whole idea of KC, though, is that I could hand my phone to someone, who could swipe over and up to get into Kids' Corner, then have free access to a sandboxed area without the ability to unlock the phone. Having to give them the PIN to unlock the phone is rather silly...
I'm curious as to whether others have noticed this same behavior, and whether it varies by phone model/OS version.
I'm running an AT&T Lumia 920 with OS version 8.0.9903.10
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I'm running an AT&T Lumia 920 with OS version 8.0.9903.10
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Same phone, same OS version, and I don't have that problem. My PIN only applies to my user, not Kid's Corner (or Guest, as I've renamed it).
@OP
Do you have your phone synced to an Exchange server and does it require you to set a PIN? I've been looking at a few WP8 handsets exhibiting this problem and they seem to be the ones connected via Exchange ActiveSync with security policies in place.
Same for me. I noticed it worked fine the first day I had the phone but trying it now, its asking for a pin. I am connected to exchange servers, but neither require a pin.
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Do you have your phone synced to an Exchange server and does it require you to set a PIN? I've been looking at a few WP8 handsets exhibiting this problem and they seem to be the ones connected via Exchange ActiveSync with security policies in place.
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No: I'm connected only to my Microsoft account and a Gmail account. No EAS policies are in play.
Are you sure it isn't a PIN setting in the Kid's Corner settings? It asks you if you want to use a PIN when you first set it up, and that's not available from the KC "Customize" tile.
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Are you sure it isn't a PIN setting in the Kid's Corner settings? It asks you if you want to use a PIN when you first set it up, and that's not available from the KC "Customize" tile.
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It never asked me that when I first set it up; never asks that if I disable/enable from settings. Regardless, it follows whatever the setting from the lockscreen is.
I'm actually beginning to wonder if this may just be a poorly thought out design decision. I've seen reports on other forums that people who report being able to get into KC without a PIN when they have a lockscreen PIN also have a timeout set, rather than having it apply instantly, and that there seems to be some odd behavior with the two sides resetting that timeout differently, but that eventually even they would have to enter a PIN either way. Have you (or anyone else who can get into KC w/o a PIN immediately after locking their phone) tested whether the same is true if the phone's been sitting around for a while without being used and you try to go directly to KC? I trust people here more on troubleshooting than reports from other forums, so curious if those claims of it just being that it hasn't timed out yet have any validity.
I know for a fact when I turned on my wife's KC on her 820 yesterday that it asked if she wanted to use a PIN. When I try to find the setting on my 920 I can't see it anywhere, even turning KC on and off. Perhaps it's a one time thing and you mistakingly said yes?
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The whole idea of KC, though, is that I could hand my phone to someone, who could swipe over and up to get into Kids' Corner, then have free access to a sandboxed area without the ability to unlock the phone. Having to give them the PIN to unlock the phone is rather silly...
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Kid's Corner is working as designed; your premise about it's purpose is what I think is wrong. (BTW, your idea is a fine one, but it's not the problem that Microsoft set out to solve with Kids Corner.)
On PIN-protected phones, unauthorized users aren't permitted to just jump into Kids Corner on their own. (Among other things, allowing that would let anyone drain your battery.) Instead, the use case that Microsoft wanted to address was giving parents a way to grant their children a game-playing session with the phone without letting the child have full access to the phone (i.e., trapping the kid in the sandbox). For security reasons, that granting is to be done by the parent keying in the PIN, not by the parent revealing the PIN to anyone else.
Assuming that your phone is set up to prompt for a PIN after 15 minutes of inactivity, if the kid puts down the phone for 2 minutes and picks it up again, the PIN isn't needed because the parent-approved game-playing session is still active. If the kids sets down the phone for 20 minutes, the kid will need get the parent to OK additional game play.
Other users have complained that phones with PINs always require the PIN after a Kids Corner session. (The argument being that you may have just unlocked the phone for your kid's use so why would you have to key the PIN in again.) I would argue that the current behavior is the only one that makes sense because the other way creates a path for a kid to get out of the sandbox by just tapping the power button twice. So, the PIN is needed after a Kids Corner session because the phone knows that it was just in the hands of a kid or guest (i.e., not the actual owner) and it needs to get the owner's OK before letting the user into the full feature set.
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I know for a fact when I turned on my wife's KC on her 820 yesterday that it asked if she wanted to use a PIN. When I try to find the setting on my 920 I can't see it anywhere, even turning KC on and off. Perhaps it's a one time thing and you mistakingly said yes?
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Nope, I'm quite certain it never prompted me.
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Kid's Corner is working as designed; your premise about it's purpose is what I think is wrong. (BTW, your idea is a fine one, but it's not the problem that Microsoft set out to solve with Kids Corner.)
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Yeah, I was beginning to think it was actually working as designed, just designed in a way that seems contrary to its stated purpose.
So, the PIN is needed after a Kids Corner session because the phone knows that it was just in the hands of a kid or guest (i.e., not the actual owner) and it needs to get the owner's OK before letting the user into the full feature set.
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OK, this is the part I was missing ... at least it will always require a PIN to get back out of KC into the rest of the phone, though it still seems counterintuitive that there aren't separate settings. The demos show Joe handing a phone to his kid, who swipes over and up to get in - but it's never made clear what the intended behavior is with a PIN enabled. I was (apparently incorrectly) assuming that it could be set up to allow use by kids as demoed where they can unlock and get into KC themselves without allowing them out of the sandbox. The behavior as you describe it makes sense though, at least as far as not being a bug, even if it seems incomplete to me.
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The demos show Joe handing a phone to his kid, who swipes over and up to get in - but it's never made clear what the intended behavior is with a PIN enabled. I was (apparently incorrectly) assuming that it could be set up to allow use by kids as demoed where they can unlock and get into KC themselves without allowing them out of the sandbox.
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I think that in the demo, Joe didn't unlock the phone for his kids because he had just used it for another task and it hadn't yet relocked. I agree with you that at first glance Kids Corner seems odd. When I thought about it more, I realized that it's designed more to provide protection to the adult than it is to provide entertainment to kids.
I have my corporate email account added on my phone which REQUIRES the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen to be activated.
On LG G2 the default lock screen has a button "Emergency call - Press and hold". A call to 911 is dialed immediately when you accidentally press it for 2 seconds.
My 2-year-old boy has accidentally dialed 911 four times and each time 911 called me back and they'll send someone to check out next time.
To use my corporate email account I can't disable the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen. Is there a way to remove that stupid button, or change the "911" to be a invalid number?
You can buy a fake phone for your 2-year-old kid
He got 2 "nice" VTech phones already. I didn't give my phone to him by intention.
The problem is that sometimes I placed my phone on the table - maybe just 2 minutes, and he sometimes got the chance to grab the phone and the first thing he did is to "press and hold" that stupid button.
If the phone is not locked, it is harder for him to dial 911 - but I can't disable the lock screen due to corporate's policy.
votinh said:
You can buy a fake phone for your 2-year-old kid
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Same thing happens when I leave guns around the house.
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qiushengxy said:
He got 2 "nice" VTech phones already. I didn't give my phone to him by intention.
The problem is that sometimes I placed my phone on the table - maybe just 2 minutes, and he sometimes got the chance to grab the phone and the first thing he did is to "press and hold" that stupid button.
If the phone is not locked, it is harder for him to dial 911 - but I can't disable the lock screen due to corporate's policy.
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Alright, to other outsiders looking in and still wondering which phone to choose, here is a perfect example of how beautiful this G2 is, it's up to the point that even a 2 years old kid would know/realize the beauty of this phone is and choose it.
Anyway, to OP, keep out of reach of children. You can do better than that, m8.
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Alright, to other outsiders looking in and still wondering which phone to choose, here is a perfect example of how beautiful this G2 is, it's up to the point that even a 2 years old kid would know/realize the beauty of this phone is and choose it.
Anyway, to OP, keep out of reach of children. You can do better than that, m8.
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Hey, I am looking for a technical solution here.
I know I have to keep my LG G2 out of reach of children, I've got the lesson, but unlike a gun in the previous post, we are using the phone very frequently and there are chances that you inadvertently leave the phone somewhere that is reachable by a baby.
a. We know you are looking for a technical solution but it has to be reasonable. That feature built for emergency purpose as when you are in the panic mode, you can't remember that pwd for that moment, you need to access the phone and call for help. It's there for a reason.
b. Instead of looking for a "technical solution" that virtually nowhere to be found, why don't you invest into other solutions
+ In 365 days in a year, how many times you let your kid gets to the phone? Seriously, nobody mock you but we do expect parent can do more than that. If you can't do with 2 years old kid, how would you deal with 6 years old one and later? Change your style, seriously.
+ If you really really don't care changing your style and still want it, I think you can root your phone and install the modded version of Email which does bypass the restriction. I did it when still own the SGS2-i777, I don't know there is such a modded. like that for G2.
Anyway, solutions are surely out there but the quickest solution is your control.
It's from the bottom of my heart, no mocking here.
Install maildroid app. **** the police.
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votinh said:
a. We know you are looking for a technical solution but it has to be reasonable. That feature built for emergency purpose as when you are in the panic mode, you can't remember that pwd for that moment, you need to access the phone and call for help. It's there for a reason.
b. Instead of looking for a "technical solution" that virtually nowhere to be found, why don't you invest into other solutions
+ In 365 days in a year, how many times you let your kid gets to the phone? Seriously, nobody mock you but we do expect parent can do more than that. If you can't do with 2 years old kid, how would you deal with 6 years old one and later? Change your style, seriously.
+ If you really really don't care changing your style and still want it, I think you can root your phone and install the modded version of Email which does bypass the restriction. I did it when still own the SGS2-i777, I don't know there is such a modded. like that for G2.
Anyway, solutions are surely out there but the quickest solution is your control.
It's from the bottom of my heart, no mocking here.
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There is no other phone like G2 that make the dialing of 911 so easy - you may call out to 911 easily when the phone is in your pocket, or even in your own hand - many G2 users without kids are already complaining about it - the solution is to disable the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen, which for me is enforced by the security policy.
I understand a button on the lock screen for real emergency, but it's really too easy compared to iPhones or any other Android phones - they just open a dial pad for you.
qiushengxy said:
I have my corporate email account added on my phone which REQUIRES the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen to be activated.
On LG G2 the default lock screen has a button "Emergency call - Press and hold". A call to 911 is dialed immediately when you accidentally press it for 2 seconds.
My 2-year-old boy has accidentally dialed 911 four times and each time 911 called me back and they'll send someone to check out next time.
To use my corporate email account I can't disable the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen. Is there a way to remove that stupid button, or change the "911" to be a invalid number?
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Just downl. zoodles and u good
http://www.zoodles.com/en/home/marketing
btw i NEVER dialled emerg. by mistake on my F320S
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Just downl. zoodles and u good
btw i NEVER dialled emerg. by mistake on my F320S
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I do not plan to give my phone to my kid.
Zoodles doesn't help because what I want to avoid is that when my baby accidentally reaches my phone while it is in locked mode, he can't place a 911 call easily. Even 2-step dialing is complex enough for him.
LG G2 is the only phone that "support" the 1-touch-to-911 feature.
qiushengxy said:
I do not plan to give my phone to my kid.
Zoodles doesn't help because what I want to avoid is that when my baby accidentally reaches my phone while it is in locked mode, he can't place a 911 call easily. Even 2-step dialing is complex enough for him.
LG G2 is the only phone that "support" the 1-touch-to-911 feature.
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where is that one touch feature ?!?!?! i dont have it on mine
uninstall it with app master
I got a real chuckle out of this thread. Thanks guys.
As a parent of four, all of which have graduated High School and two from college so far, I gotta say that your solution is in parenting. Teach the crumb snatcher to keep his hands off of things that don't belong to him and be smart enough to place objects higher than two feet up. It's really not as hard as you seem to think it is.
Or maybe just quit your job, get rid of the corporate email, and watch your kid 24\7.
qiushengxy said:
I do not plan to give my phone to my kid.
Zoodles doesn't help because what I want to avoid is that when my baby accidentally reaches my phone while it is in locked mode, he can't place a 911 call easily. Even 2-step dialing is complex enough for him.
LG G2 is the only phone that "support" the 1-touch-to-911 feature.
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My D800 actually has one long touch (press and hold) then another short touch to 911 (other is 112)
So it's like 2-touch feature.
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where is that one touch feature ?!?!?! i dont have it on mine
uninstall it with app master
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It's a button on the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen, under the password pad.
You touch it for 1-2 second and you are already connected with 911.
I would try this and if it asks to confirm for 911/Emergency Dial then you can get Pro to also add a password to dial. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vladlee.callconfirm.free
You could just make that one number password protected/confirmed if you want. Or whitelist certain numbers.
--VS980
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Same thing happens when I leave guns around the house.
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ROFL
I've had my phone stolen more times than I'd like. Given the fact that I've had my phone stolen this many number of times may suggest to some that I'm careless. Well, that would be a correct assumption to make. However, I don't equate being careless with deserving to have my phone stolen by some low lying piece of koopa. Anyway, the last one was a Moto G and the thing that pissed me off was the fact that the device had achieved an equilibrium in all areas that are important; the right balance of applications, just the right battery time etc. It knew me and I knew it. We were familiar to each other and then it was ripped from my clawing hands, never to return again. At that very moment, I made a decision that never will I let another phone be stolen again (iA). So I decided to make my phone theft-proof, not theft-resistant but theft-proof. The phone in question is the Moto X.
This is how I did it. First you need the following:
- A handset whose battery cannot be removed (at least very easily like the Moto G/Nexus 5/Moto X)
- Root
- Xposed Framework
- Xposed Framework Gravitybox module
- Anti-theft app (the one that I use is cerberus https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en)
- Bringrr or any other bluetooth perimeter based tracker (optional but recommended)
It's a fairly straight forward procedure. I'll lay it out in steps.
Step 1:
- Buy a phone whose battery cannot be removed
Step 2:
- Root the phone
Step 3:
- Set a pattern or number lock on your phone.
Step 4:
- Install XposedFramework
Step 5:
- Download and install Gravitybox module from within the Xposedframework
Step 6:
Go into the Gravityox module from the app drawer, then go into "Power Tweaks" and then check the "Disable power menu on lockscreen" option. This ensures that when your phone is locked (assumption is that you keep your phone locked or secured), nobody can turn it off or lower the volume. This is crucial when it comes to theft. Usually when a thief steals a phone, the first thing he does is he turns it off or removes the battery or reduces the volume to zero, but if he can't do any of these then the thief has a tracker in his hands and he's in deep ****za.
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- Install an anti-theft app. I recommend cerberus. It's very versatile and wholesome. I really like the fact that you can actually make it into a system app which means that even if the thief were to somehow turn off the phone and then turn it on again and crack your pass code or pattern lock and factory reset the phone from the settings, the cerberus app will still be there doing it's job of tracking your phone.
There's only one way of getting around this as far as I can tell but I don't think I'm going to tell you how. That would defeat the purpose of this little guide
Step 8:
- Get a bluetooth location trackr. I like bringrr. It seems to get better reviews than the others one floating out there. It's a bluetooth device that plugs into your car's cig lighter socket and connects to your phone's bluetooth. If you leave your phone in a cafe and come back to the car, the bringrr will warn you or alert you that your phone isn't with you. It also has small little tags which you can put in your wallet and then your wallet and your phone and your car, all can communicate with each other. So, it's a nice preventive measure.
Even if you disable the power menu you can just hold down the power button until it turns off.
True....but that's not true if you havent confirmed it yet.
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also if they have a pin they can eject the sim
than hold power til it shuts down
hold down and power get to recovery and wipe the phone
after that if they are really good change the imei and bam
cant track or black list it
i know imei is hard to change but i know it can be done
Alpha_wolf said:
also if they have a pin they can eject the sim
than hold power til it shuts down
hold down and power get to recovery and wipe the phone
after that if they are really good change the imei and bam
cant track or black list it
i know imei is hard to change but i know it can be done
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holding down the power button does turn it off but you gotta keep your finger there for a while. and I'm betting that an opportunistic thief really won't have his wits about him to figure out why the power menu isn't showing up and might freak.
and yes! these are the two flaw in this plan, the removal of the sim. however, if they insert another sim into the phone, cerberus sends a message to the designated numbers. also, imei changing IS hard and can't be done on the fly so there's a window of opportunity between the theft of the phone and the subsequent IMEI change (if there is one) to trace and recover it.
Also wiping the phone won't remove cerberus. you'll have to flash a new rom to get rid of it. so they can change the imei and whatnot but you'll still be able to trace it once they've booted it back up.
however, it'll give you and your phone a fighting chance
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holding down the power button does turn it off but you gotta keep your finger there for a while. and I'm betting that an opportunistic thief really won't have his wits about him to figure out why the power menu isn't showing up and might freak.
and yes! these are the two flaw in this plan, the removal of the sim. however, if they insert another sim into the phone, cerberus sends a message to the designated numbers. also, imei changing IS hard and can't be done on the fly so there's a window of opportunity between the theft of the phone and the subsequent IMEI change (if there is one) to trace and recover it.
Also wiping the phone won't remove cerberus. you'll have to flash a new rom to get rid of it. so they can change the imei and whatnot but you'll still be able to trace it once they've booted it back up.
however, it'll give you and your phone a fighting chance
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i agree with you i was just throwing those out there cause there are people like us that use their power for evil lol
mufakir said:
I've had my phone stolen more times than I'd like. Given the fact that I've had my phone stolen this many number of times may suggest to some that I'm careless. Well, that would be a correct assumption to make. However, I don't equate being careless with deserving to have my phone stolen by some low lying piece of koopa. Anyway, the last one was a Moto G and the thing that pissed me off was the fact that the device had achieved an equilibrium in all areas that are important; the right balance of applications, just the right battery time etc. It knew me and I knew it. We were familiar to each other and then it was ripped from my clawing hands, never to return again. At that very moment, I made a decision that never will I let another phone be stolen again (iA). So I decided to make my phone theft-proof, not theft-resistant but theft-proof. The phone in question is the Moto X.
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Just out of curiosity how many phones have been stolen from you? And how were they stolen? Maybe there's something that you change to not get your phone stolen.
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Just out of curiosity how many phones have been stolen from you? And how were they stolen? Maybe there's something that you change to not get your phone stolen.
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Well the first phone was Iphone. The very first Iphone. It was stolen from my car while I was sitting in it. Happens a lot where I am; Pakistan. I was waiting for the light to turn green at a signal when this guy showed up on the passenger side door, and in what seemed like a flash, opened the door (which unfortunately was not locked), snatched the phone (which was lying on the passenger seat), ran around the car and on to the other side of the road where there was a guy on a bike (who I had not noticed before) revving it. The thief got on to the bike and they were gone. I had in the meanwhile only gotten out of the car and managed to shout out an expletive but it was too late by then. The phone was gone.
Ever since, I keep my car doors locked at all times.
The 2nd phone was also stolen from my car while it was parked in my garage. Probably the driver. It was a Nokia.
The 3rd phone was the Moto G. Went to this cafe to get some ice cream for wife and kid. Rush hour traffic in the cafe. Some seedy types were at the counter as well and I was wearing baggy clothes and got pick pocketed. Didn't feel nothing. Last known location of the phone was the cafe according to Life360.
mufakir said:
Well the first phone was Iphone. The very first Iphone. It was stolen from my car while I was sitting in it. Happens a lot where I am; Pakistan. I was waiting for the light to turn green at a signal when this guy showed up on the passenger side door, and in what seemed like a flash, opened the door (which unfortunately was not locked), snatched the phone (which was lying on the passenger seat), ran around the car and on to the other side of the road where there was a guy on a bike (who I had not noticed before) revving it. The thief got on to the bike and they were gone. I had in the meanwhile only gotten out of the car and managed to shout out an expletive but it was too late by then. The phone was gone.
Ever since, I keep my car doors locked at all times.
The 2nd phone was also stolen from my car while it was parked in my garage. Probably the driver. It was a Nokia.
The 3rd phone was the Moto G. Went to this cafe to get some ice cream for wife and kid. Rush hour traffic in the cafe. Some seedy types were at the counter as well and I was wearing baggy clothes and got pick pocketed. Didn't feel nothing. Last known location of the phone was the cafe according to Life360.
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1. Sucks that people just walk up to cars and steal while you're in the car. But like you said windows and doors locked will help.
2. Sucks that people steal. But assholes work everywhere. But never leave your personal property unattended.
3. Keep your wallet and phone in front pockets its harder to pick pocket. Or wear pants that are not too baggy so that pick pockets cant easily get their hands in.
I'm not sure how crime is in Pakistan but it sounds worse than here in the states. But even if you can track someone, remember its not worth getting seriously hurt or worse over property.
I guess I'd add that another step no matter what theft prevention you have, is to make a backup. Once you find that great balance of perfect apps and configurations, take screen shots of your app drawer at the very least so you know what apps you had installed. Take screenshots of your home screen so you know what icons you had where for that instinctive muscle memory of unlocking and tapping email in the lower right without really looking or thinking about it.
I've never had a phone stolen, but I've bricked and wiped enough times to know that backups are important even if your phone doesn't get stolen.
carry AK47 in front seat of car, problem solved!
Turn in android device manager with location reporting. It will track your phone down for you.
fury683 said:
I guess I'd add that another step no matter what theft prevention you have, is to make a backup. Once you find that great balance of perfect apps and configurations, take screen shots of your app drawer at the very least so you know what apps you had installed. Take screenshots of your home screen so you know what icons you had where for that instinctive muscle memory of unlocking and tapping email in the lower right without really looking or thinking about it.
I've never had a phone stolen, but I've bricked and wiped enough times to know that backups are important even if your phone doesn't get stolen.
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yea, but it's such painstaking work man. gonna do that today.
mawells787 said:
1. Sucks that people just walk up to cars and steal while you're in the car. But like you said windows and doors locked will help.
2. Sucks that people steal. But assholes work everywhere. But never leave your personal property unattended.
3. Keep your wallet and phone in front pockets its harder to pick pocket. Or wear pants that are not too baggy so that pick pockets cant easily get their hands in.
I'm not sure how crime is in Pakistan but it sounds worse than here in the states. But even if you can track someone, remember its not worth getting seriously hurt or worse over property.
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Well, all I know about crime in the States is what I see in tv shows, but yea, it's everywhere. crime and criminals that is.
I prefer keeping my phone by my side at all times....to battery sucking theft solutions.
But to each their own!!
Good info here for sure! ?
In my opinion it's better to leave the phone without a pin because, if i were an average theft who doesn't know that much about phones, I'd just remove the accounts, the Sim card and apps. Maybe I would do a factory reset and with that I'd be happy so cerberus would survive.
Also I'd recommend you to hide cerberus from the drawer and make it only available from the dialer.
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Does holding the power button for 8 seconds still turn off the device with the gravity box module disabling power? if someone could force the phone off then turning it off from the lock screen is the least of their worries.
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Does holding the power button for 8 seconds still turn off the device with the gravity box module disabling power? if someone could force the phone off then turning it off from the lock screen is the least of their worries.
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I thought that just rebooted, similar to holding POWER and VOL DOWN for a while to simulate a battery pull on Moto devices.