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Now, I know there are lots of threads on this already and I took a few minutes skimming search results and didn't find this answered.
Basically, I was hoping to switch myself to the $10 internet plan on T-Mobile rather than paying the $25 internet plan. I bought my phone unlocked from Google.com and not subsidized through T-Mobile. However, when I asked to switch to the other plan, they asked me for my IMEI number on my phone.
Has anyone else been asked for their IMEI when switching to a different data plan? Do they actually have a database of the existing N1 IMEI numbers or are they simply trying to build one? Would I be better off grabbing an old Razr and giving them that IMEI then switching back to my N1?
Lots of questions! Haha.
Anyway, if anyone could shed a bit of light on this I would very much appreciate it.
No, a few months after the initial G1 release T-Mobile caught on to the "scam" and closed the loophole. You have to have an Android data plan now or nothing.
evilkorn said:
No, a few months after the initial G1 release T-Mobile caught on to the "scam" and closed the loophole. You have to have an Android data plan now or nothing.
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Confirmed--when I got my N1 and switching from a BB plan to an Android plan.
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No, a few months after the initial G1 release T-Mobile caught on to the "scam" and closed the loophole. You have to have an Android data plan now or nothing.
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bloke226 said:
Confirmed--when I got my N1 and switching from a BB plan to an Android plan.
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Hmm.. I was under the impression that this was solely for subsidized phones which they already had IMEI's for.
So, in the end, you're stuck paying the extra cost for the Android version of Web even if you bought it unlocked then huh?
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Hmm.. I was under the impression that this was solely for subsidized phones which they already had IMEI's for.
So, in the end, you're stuck paying the extra cost for the Android version of Web even if you bought it unlocked then huh?
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Pretty much--don't know what to tell you I bought the phone outright since I didn't want to kill my plan to be forced on the N1 T-Mobile individual plan for at least 4 months...and I was forced to go onto the $25/mos plan from my $20/mos BlackBerry plan.
EDIT: They didn't ask me for what my IMEI number was though. In T-Mobile's system it will probably say I still use a BlackBerry device
The IMEI numbers update automatically in the system on a 2 day lag. So whatever phone you use today will reflect in their system on Saturday. As far as the $10 data plan, it will not work. It should say something to the effect that "you don't have the proper provisioning" or something like that. Basically your eating up too much bandwidth. You obviously had enough money to buy a Nexus 1, but won't pay for the premium data plan? That's the same thing as buying a brand new Ferrari and asking your friends for gas money to go out? At least I see it that way
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The IMEI numbers update automatically in the system on a 2 day lag. So whatever phone you use today will reflect in their system on Saturday. As far as the $10 data plan, it will not work. It should say something to the effect that "you don't have the proper provisioning" or something like that. Basically your eating up too much bandwidth. You obviously had enough money to buy a Nexus 1, but won't pay for the premium data plan? That's the same thing as buying a brand new Ferrari and asking your friends for gas money to go out? At least I see it that way
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I see... bummer.
And, as far as buying an N1 and not paying for the premium plan, the premium plan is great as long as you have a job to afford it. When you get laid off, not so much.
Nedlinin said:
I see... bummer.
And, as far as buying an N1 and not paying for the premium plan, the premium plan is great as long as you have a job to afford it. When you get laid off, not so much.
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Seriously, you're joking right?
You can't afford the $15 price difference?
Then you should cancel your phone altogether.
Wow, some people are douchebags.
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Now, I know there are lots of threads on this already and I took a few minutes skimming search results and didn't find this answered.
Basically, I was hoping to switch myself to the $10 internet plan on T-Mobile rather than paying the $25 internet plan. I bought my phone unlocked from Google.com and not subsidized through T-Mobile. However, when I asked to switch to the other plan, they asked me for my IMEI number on my phone.
Has anyone else been asked for their IMEI when switching to a different data plan? Do they actually have a database of the existing N1 IMEI numbers or are they simply trying to build one? Would I be better off grabbing an old Razr and giving them that IMEI then switching back to my N1?
Lots of questions! Haha.
Anyway, if anyone could shed a bit of light on this I would very much appreciate it.
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I am currently using a 5.99 plan on my nexus. fast 3.5g internet for really cheap price. it works just fine. they have my imei. they know I am using the internet like that but they don't do anything about it. by simply putting in the epc.tmobile.com apn you'll get full internet on any plan. but this only works for the nexus. no other android phone can use this because tmobile provides the phones not Google.
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I see... bummer.
And, as far as buying an N1 and not paying for the premium plan, the premium plan is great as long as you have a job to afford it.
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Seriously, you're joking right?
You can't afford the $15 price difference?
Then you should cancel your phone altogether.
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$15 more a month over years adds up. and in this economy money is hard to come by. no need to flame the guy.
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Seriously, you're joking right?
You can't afford the $15 price difference?
Then you should cancel your phone altogether.
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I appreciate your input but I need my phone.
@Carbon: did you give them your Nexus's IMEI number or a different phones? Also, did you buy yours unlocked or subsidized?
carbonfiber1 said:
I am currently using a 5.99 plan on my nexus. fast 3.5g internet for really cheap price. it works just fine. they have my imei. they know I am using the internet like that but they don't do anything about it. by simply putting in the epc.tmobile.com apn you'll get full internet on any plan. but this only works for the nexus. no other android phone can use this because tmobile provides the phones not Google.
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Interesting to know more how you were able to achieve the $5.99 plan
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Interesting to know more how you were able to achieve the $5.99 plan
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From what I have been able to find out, if you had the old $6 T-Zones, you were able to be grandfathered in when they cancelled the service. The cheapest net they offer now is the "Phone First/Web2Go" internet which is $10 a month. Essentially the same thing just 4$ more.
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From what I have been able to find out, if you had the old $6 T-Zones, you were able to be grandfathered in when they cancelled the service. The cheapest net they offer now is the "Phone First/Web2Go" internet which is $10 a month. Essentially the same thing just 4$ more.
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Thanks for the reply, interesting they do grandfathering
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Basically your eating up too much bandwidth. You obviously had enough money to buy a Nexus 1, but won't pay for the premium data plan? That's the same thing as buying a brand new Ferrari and asking your friends for gas money to go out? At least I see it that way
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Good analogy. However, people don't get rich by spending money. If you can find a way to pay less, you do it. Some people made a financial stretch to afford the N1 and now cannot afford to pay for a premium data service.
Data service is data service and should not be dependent on device. At least I see it that way.
Hey, I'm all fur finding ways to pay as little as possible.
But let's not pretend an extra $15 is breaking the bank.
Hello, I just cancelled my cable TV after realising u rarely watch the 200 channels available.
And all the network channels i can get using a $15 pair if rabbit ears.
HD, .5.1
Next to go is the phone. Experimenting with magic jack this month.
All I want to pay for is high speed internet.
I'll save at least $120 a month
I think the grandfathering is BS because when I first got my G1 I had T-Zones on my old v3 and they made me switch to the newer data plan. To clarify, they had to do it because of activating the phone, so I don't know if you just buy it outright and don't tell them it could work.
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@Carbon: did you give them your Nexus's IMEI number or a different phones? Also, did you buy yours unlocked or subsidized?
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I got my phone unlocked. I didnt give them my IMEI, they automatically know it once your sim card is in the phone. Ive had the 5.99 tzones plan for a while now, but this article should help you out http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/5381...ed-data-for-5-99-works-wiphone-and-nexus-one/
edit: this comment by a user might also be helpful.
"as an alternative, i was able to set this up without customer service's help. this was more than a year ago when I setup tzones to work on my treo 650. the trick was that i had an old phone sony ericcson t300 that i had purchased back in 2000 or 2001. I keep it around because if i have an emergency where my phone or my wife's phone stops working i can transfer the sim card quickly to a working phone to make/receive a call. So here's what i did:
setup my sim card in the t300.
make a call or send a text message; long enough to let the t-mobile servers detect that I have switched phones.
log in to t-mobile.com
verify that my phone is now detected as a t300. if not, click on the "not my phone" and change it.
next, adjust service plans, t-zones appears on the list.
add tzones to your billing cycle. make any additional changes you need to make.
save the settings.
change your sim card back to the original phone.
setup the phone for t-zones service"
T-mobile has two data plans.
1) Data plan
2) Sidekick data plan
They have a ton of different pricing for number 1) , the $10 smart web, the $15 dollar smartphone plan, and the $25 android plan.
(I'm not even including all the grandfathered plans like t-zone/t-mobile shadow/blackberry,etc)
The point being they are all the same, they use the same servers, they are all unlimited, so If you can manage to get any of those plans on your bill you will have full 3g/HSPA speed internet on your phone, regardless of what phone it is.
Hello Thread,
Ive had AT&T for over 4 years and i have purchased an htc hd and htc hd 2 overseas unlocked, but ive never been hable to use them as phones on AT&T because since thei are smartphones i get charged 30$ a month. I NEVER use anything else than wifi, and even DISCONECED any kind of internet service for my family plan, but still it dosnt matter.
AT&T will not let me use my phones unless i have a data plan, i donot want to pay fr this service since i dont use it.
There is no point of buying an unlocked full priced phone, if i am obligated to do this.
Please does anybody have a solucion for this? maybe change my IMEI?
Thanks in advance
I would tell you get an TMOUS HD2 (should have an IMEI not in AT&T's records) off ebay, but recently I saw someone having problems with a different carrier's HD2 (or was it TP2?) being automatically switched to a smartphone plan. Someone can surely provide more infomation.
I think changing IMEIs is outright impossible though. Or at least not really practical.
jdwrrzmm said:
I think changing IMEIs is outright impossible though. Or at least not really practical.
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not impossible, but impractical and very illegal.
jdwrrzmm said:
I would tell you get an TMOUS HD2 (should have an IMEI not in AT&T's records) off ebay, but recently I saw someone having problems with a different carrier's HD2 (or was it TP2?) being automatically switched to a smartphone plan. Someone can surely provide more infomation.
I think changing IMEIs is outright impossible though. Or at least not really practical.
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Thanks for the reply! but i already purchased the international version, because i can flash anything to it, TMOUS has limits on what can you flash to it.
I suggested the IMEI because i cant think of another way to avoid AT&T from finding i have a smartphone, its incredible to me that being that i have totally disconected my internet on te phone, they will still make me pay 30$ a month to have unlimited plan, it will en up being way more than what i payed for the phone in the end of the contract.
Anybody got another idea???
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Thanks for the reply! but i already purchased the international version, because i can flash anything to it, TMOUS has limits on what can you flash to it.
I suggested the IMEI because i cant think of another way to avoid AT&T from finding i have a smartphone, its incredible to me that being that i have totally disconected my internet on te phone, they will still make me pay 30$ a month to have unlimited plan, it will en up being way more than what i payed for the phone in the end of the contract.
Anybody got another idea???
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get a free non-data phone and voice plan from AT&T....then take the SIM card out of it and put it into your HD2
teddmf said:
get a free non-data phone and voice plan from AT&T....then take the SIM card out of it and put it into your HD2
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Thank you for you reply!
I actually do have a non smartphone RZRV9 and am using it on a voice plan, but the problem is that when i was renewing my contract i asked AT&T representatives, various ones, and them not knowwing who i was, and the told me the same:
¨even if you donot have an active internet conection on your phone, and we find out that you are using a smartphone, even if the sim is inserted for a short amount of time, the 30$ a month will be added to your account with ought notice¨
My reaction was WTF??????? are you kidding me?
How can i use my unlocked, international version htc hd 2 and htc hd (that i only use wifi with , again i dont have an internet data conection) as an actual phone? with ought at&t charging me for having a smartphone?
please help
They can't do that, tell them if they don't fix it you will move to t-mobile, i would.
goldt said:
They can't do that, tell them if they don't fix it you will move to t-mobile, i would.
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If you upgraded to a new phone or renewed or opened or otherwise extended a contract after November 2009, they have every right to do it. It's become a very explicit part of the contract since then. The only way out of the contract is still to pay those fat ETFs.
If they detect the phones you own as smartphones there is no recourse except to eat the data package price or dump the phones. They will always be detected in the system as smartphones, and the appropriate plan will always be appended for the unlucky owner.
AT&T has the IMEIs of all AWS Nexus Ones and likely most TMOUS HD2s. I know a number of people with TMOUS HD2s who have been automatically provisioned onto the $30 smartphone plan while on AT&T.
It is exceptionally unusual that an international phone would be detected as a smartphone by AT&T's system. I would question the history of the phone.
Yeah, I've been running an imported european HD2 on AT&T for a while and have had no problems with automatic smartphone data plan. Before this I was auto data planned by AT&T with a Nokia E71x. I thought the rule was that AT&T could only mandate data plans on phones they sold.
oh man! that's ridiculous. Then what's the point of buying straight out with full price on the phone? If you buy a smartphone with full price or from other third party and doesnt stick with any contact, you should be good to go. They can't force or longer require you to pay the web service of $30/month. The reason that they force you to pay the data plan is because of the instant discount when you buy a phone with new/extend contact.
You know one thing that i noticed that was just crazy for me, was that if you think about it, any AT&T provided phone that is able to use wifi (to pick up in hotspots, withought having to pay) Is a smartphone, thus it MUST have a 30$ a month plan! :-0! whats the point of wifi?????!! to get a little faster internet maybe, but you are paying for your phone plan anyways? why use wifi?
It dosnt make sense and it is not fair to the consumer, especially when the sales representatives tells you ¨Oh yeah, the reason we add the plan is because since you have a phone that uses alot of internet, it is unfair to others to take away their data, so you need an unlimited plan¨ there are alot of problems with that right there:
1) If i do use the internet on the cellphone and consume alot, and have no unlimited data plan then i am going to pay aloooooooooooooooooooooot of money to use it because the prices are incredibly rediculous, so why is my carrier complaning? I SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE IF I WANT TO PAY OR NOT.
2) If in MY CASE i have my internet completely and utterly disconnected, and never plan on adding it on, then how am i consuming internet from others??....
Anymore thoughts?
Thank you
And what if you buy a european version (or doesn't that work?)
My phone said it can use this bands
850,900,1800,1900,2100
I don't know wich are used in the usa.
if you change sim cards to a cheap phone and change the data plans.... they will allow you..
but once you change back into hd2... not only will they INSTANTLY change your plan back the second they notice (it varies... sometimes it takes a couple hours... sometimes it takes a couple months.. BUT IN THE END...THEY ALWAYS FIND OUT) but you are also in a direct breach of your contract...... if you were one of the extremely few people who actually read the small print at the bottom of contract.. it states something along the lines of.. bla bla bla attempting to use companies service without direct notification.. bla bla bla.. waives users service rights bla bla bla...
so yea.. the way i see it... if you want to use a phone like the hd2... might as well get the plan... if you want a phone for a phone.. just stick to the good ol flip phones... you'll save a fortune.. and it doesn't make any sense otherwise...
What's wrong with getting a phone for a phone that is Windows Mobile based? Not everyone is interested in using internet on the go.
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if you change sim cards to a cheap phone and change the data plans.... they will allow you..
but once you change back into hd2... not only will they INSTANTLY change your plan back the second they notice (it varies... sometimes it takes a couple hours... sometimes it takes a couple months.. BUT IN THE END...THEY ALWAYS FIND OUT) but you are also in a direct breach of your contract...... if you were one of the extremely few people who actually read the small print at the bottom of contract.. it states something along the lines of.. bla bla bla attempting to use companies service without direct notification.. bla bla bla.. waives users service rights bla bla bla...
so yea.. the way i see it... if you want to use a phone like the hd2... might as well get the plan... if you want a phone for a phone.. just stick to the good ol flip phones... you'll save a fortune.. and it doesn't make any sense otherwise...
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AT&T doesn't have a huge repertoire of IMEIs they recognize. The ones that are most at-risk are AT&T-branded phones, AWS Google Nexus Ones, and T-Mobile-branded phones. This is why I find the original poster's predicament extremely unusual. I am able to use my own HD2 with a dumbphone plan ($30 unlimited texting and data package) and it works perfectly. Moreover I get access to AT&T's HSDPA which the OP does not.
Threaten to leave if they add the $30 data plan to your account. Phone carriers do all kinds of crazy stuff when you say you are going to their rivals. Do not however think about tampering with your IMEI. It is illegal.
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Threaten to leave if they add the $30 data plan to your account. Phone carriers do all kinds of crazy stuff when you say you are going to their rivals.
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True, but it is beyond their power to drop the data charges from what is a detected smartphone. It has been explicitly in the terms of service since November of last year.
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AT&T doesn't have a huge repertoire of IMEIs they recognize. The ones that are most at-risk are AT&T-branded phones, AWS Google Nexus Ones, and T-Mobile-branded phones. This is why I find the original poster's predicament extremely unusual. I am able to use my own HD2 with a dumbphone plan ($30 unlimited texting and data package) and it works perfectly. Moreover I get access to AT&T's HSDPA which the OP does not.
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I second what is stated here. I have been switching phones for some time. I have had the T9193 since January on the non smartphone data plan. ATT has no idea what phone I am using. Phones stated above would be the danger phones. Evidentally the previous owner of your T8585 reported the IMEI to ATT. That is the only way they know you have a smartphone.
I have a tmo version of hd2 and it shows up as blackberry 7290. The rep I spoke to thinks it's because the imei of the tmo hd2 has "similar patters" to those old blackberrys.
This is very much unusual, as i though euro ver would not get recognized at all. i have not seen a single thread re: this issue for the euro ver, whereas I've seen a handful for the tmous ver.
Since when did corporations care about whether our products were stolen? There subsidize model is under attack and they've found a new scam to charge us more. It's like being charged more for gas if I drive a cadillac and less if I drive a Prius. I bought my phone without their subsidy or contract. It has nothing to do with them. It's a GSM cell phone and I want to pay for service. Why should I be charged more for the kind of phone I'm using. If I use more data OK, but it isn't a certain that I'll use more just because I have a smartphone. And the whole IMEI # nonsense is bull%$^#$. The IMEI is nothing more than a serial number. It's not the KI #. it's not about cloning or finding terrorists or anything else. It's about these orifices subsidized model being threatened by people buying there own phones and so some clever master of bull&&*# administration has figured out a new gimmick.
*this post should in no way be construed to be condoning imei changing. it's illegal.
Just checked out the GT in a local store. Cute hardware. But they wouldn't sell it to me without passport and social security number. So much for picking up a U.S. tab while on holidays...
Were you trying to buy it at the off contract price? Were you paying cash?
I definitely wanted the "off-contract" GT. I would have been happy to pay cash, but we didn't get that far...
PS: On the t-mobile web page you need to pick an "even more" or "even more plus" plan to order.
Are you visiting friends in the States? If so, have them buy it for you. Or try a different T-mobile corporate store.
They can sell it to you without any credit check just like any item in the store if you are paying up front. Maybe they were just trying to make more money and/or save it for somebody who was going to sign up for service. Sad but it happens.
I just brought mine
I just brought one from tmobile store (no contract), and didn't ask for any credit check
I called up the other stores in town and they do require you to get at least one month of service with it. Which then entails a credit check, even if its only month-to-month. I guess ahbvrh was just lucky and ran into a CSR who wasn't aware of these rules. Yay!
you can simply buy a prepaid data plan (10$) and that will save you the credit check.
Im still loooking for the tmobile sim unlock code so I can use my existing corporate sim card which is AT&T
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you can simply buy a prepaid data plan (10$) and that will save you the credit check.
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I am a current T-mobile prepaid user. I tried buying the tab with and without telling them my t-mobile number, but no luck...
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Im still loooking for the tmobile sim unlock code so I can use my existing corporate sim card which is AT&T
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Are you saying that the 599.- "off-contract" GT is sim-locked to t-mobile US?? That would be insane...
That's no policy of Tmobile but maybe something they are doing in that region or those particular stores. There is no policy that says you have to buy a month of service for any device on tmobile now that they have the prepaid webconnect plans too. Even before that though you never needed to sign up for service to just buy a device its just expensive.
Yes,it locked for tmobile,but im sure it is possible to find unlock code somewhete
If you pay full invoice price its still sim locked but you are allowed to request the sim unlock code from tmobile. Just one catch you gotta have an account with tmobile to process that request.
That good to know,I just faxed them my recipt ,I will see if they will send me the unlock .....
Good luck! The t-mo web page say: http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm51885.xml
For customers with a T-Mobile Postpaid Plan, T-Mobile will provide the SIM Unlock Code upon request to eligible customers, provided the requesting customer has a minimum of 40 days of active service with T-Mobile.
To me, that sounds like you have to wait >1 month... Yay!
it seem this is only for postpaid users....,I just bought prepaid data plan....
I'm sure there is a way to unlock using root or something
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it seem this is only for postpaid users....,I just bought prepaid data plan....
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Oh yeah good point, you are the lucky one that got one on prepaid. Though in that case its even worse, and the same page says:
For customers with a T-Mobile Prepaid Plan, T-Mobile will provide the SIM Unlock Code upon request to eligible customers, provided the requesting customer has a minimum of 60 days of active service with T-Mobile and either a Prepaid Plan account balance of at least $10.00 or a prior refill within the last 30 days.
However, a quick google search brings up various pages that send you an unlock code for $$$...
I dont mind paying few extra bucks for gettong the unlock code.
googling it up show only one site that promise unlock code for the galaxy tab,but it is for the sprint vetsion,and I'm not sure it will work on the tmobile one...
Confused! I thought CDMA devices were never locked and if you wanted to change carrier (eg Sprint to Verizon) you just needed to get the new carrier to register the devices ESN on their network (which is often easier said than done!).
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Tmobile is GSM
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I know. I was referring to the previous poster who mentioned unlock codes for sprint, which CDMA.
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Dave
Hey...have mine shipping Friday.
I intend on doing what I did with my SGS2 on ATT and that is get it set up on prepaid $50mo unlimited. They sent me my sim card without getting my imei# last time.
Not so now ....they've become adamant about this now.
I'm going to use my imei from the Note...but just tell them its an old unlocked Raze or something .Since its GSM....they can't tell I think.
Does anyone know if there's anything/code in these #'s that indicates whether or not its a smartphone or not. (Smartphones not allowed on these plans).
Thanks
As you are aware ATT doesn't sell international galaxy Note's so when they see the Notes IMEI register on their network OLAM will not know what device it is when it cross references its device list.
This is why you can have the $10 medianet unlimited plan when you use an unlocked, unbranded phone that AT&T doesn't offer. It will work exactly the same way as unbranded Nokias and the gt-19000.
but where do you get the sim card from? they send it to you?
Buy the cheapest phone they offer. When they ship the phone to you simply use that SIM card in your unlocked unbranded device.
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Buy the cheapest phone they offer. When they ship the phone to you simply use that SIM card in your unlocked unbranded device.
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Also other idea:I buy two SGSII for 200.00US and sell on ebay for 450.00 for downpayment for the Note
Good stuff guys!!
I am on T-Mobile right now and I am thinking of
1. Removing my unlimited data plan from TMo
2. Go to their lowest monthly plan just for the calls ( i wud not want to totally get rid of TMo for now)
3. Get a new AT&T plans, with a descent phone
4. Sell the phone eBay/Craigslist
5. Fwd calls from my Tmo # to AT&T
6. Use Note with AT&T
Just waiting for Note to launch in more European countries which MIGHT bring down a price little more (I hope)
Thank you.
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As you are aware ATT doesn't sell international galaxy Note's so when they see the Notes IMEI register on their network OLAM will not know what device it is when it cross references its device list.
This is why you can have the $10 medianet unlimited plan when you use an unlocked, unbranded phone that AT&T doesn't offer. It will work exactly the same way as unbranded Nokias and the gt-19000.
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Don't they sell GoPhones at Best Buy?
Will the note access the 21G Hspu+ using those sim cards????
QUOTE=inurb;18953686]Buy the cheapest phone they offer. When they ship the phone to you simply use that SIM card in your unlocked unbranded device.[/QUOTE]
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Also other idea:I buy two SGSII for 200.00US and sell on ebay for 450.00 for downpayment for the Note
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WHy not just buy 2 iphone 4s for 400 and sell it for around 600
I usually take a 50% commission fee for something like this
You already owe me 150 $.
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WHy not just buy 2 iphone 4s for 400 and sell it for around 600
I usually take a 50% commission fee for something like this
You already owe me 150 $.
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Nice sorry i forgot the commissionwhy galaxy because i don't like the iphones
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So i can just get one of those Gophones for like $20 and simply switch over the sim card to the Note?? It's as simple as that and i don't need to do anything else? Also if i do this, will i be able to port my existing verizon number over to at&t?
If I'm already on AT&T using a Nexus One, can I shift my existing number to prepaid if I get some crap phone?
My M8 is on its way out after spending 30 seconds at the bottom of the lake. It still works, but no 4g, and charging issues, so I want to get a M10. I have unlimited data with Verizon so I will be buying the phone outright. My question is which is better/easier to root and whatnot, buying the unlocked model and converting it to Verizon, or buying the Verizon model? Are there any plus's/minus's to going either way?
Thanks.
Kane5581 said:
My M8 is on its way out after spending 30 seconds at the bottom of the lake. It still works, but no 4g, and charging issues, so I want to get a M10. I have unlimited data with Verizon so I will be buying the phone outright. My question is which is better/easier to root and whatnot, buying the unlocked model and converting it to Verizon, or buying the Verizon model? Are there any plus's/minus's to going either way?
Thanks.
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Verizon will let you make payments and keep your unlimited data if you didn't know. that's what I did this time around. if you have Verizon just go with the Verizon model and save yourself the trouble of converting it, unless you want a black 10 I guess. you can buy it (Verizon) directly from htc.com along with the unlocked if you don't want to do verizons payment plan/ full price.
you will have to mail it (Verizon model) to sunshine mail in unlock service to unlock the bootloader and s-off but that will only take a couple days. unlocked model you can do at home is the only benefit for going the unlocked conversion route
Kane5581 said:
My M8 is on its way out after spending 30 seconds at the bottom of the lake. It still works, but no 4g, and charging issues, so I want to get a M10. I have unlimited data with Verizon so I will be buying the phone outright. My question is which is better/easier to root and whatnot, buying the unlocked model and converting it to Verizon, or buying the Verizon model? Are there any plus's/minus's to going either way?
Thanks.
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I wanted the grey one and since VZN only has silver, got the US unlocked version. Was happy to be able to unlock and SunShine S-0ff it at home. Easy peezy.
Used our dev's great guides here to convert it to a VZN phone. Then rooted and debloated it.
It is totally a joy to use. I have no overheating or any of the other issues some have mentioned.
Love this phone!!! Best HTC has made!
i got the unlocked one and when i was traveling in mexico, verizon was unable to activate an international plan. it was annoying for me but not a big deal, and i actually enjoyed my vacation more because of it. so itf that's important, know that verizon can't enable an international plan because it's registered as a non-vzw device.
Went to Verizon and they said they couldn't do the payments without changing my unlimited plan, even though I was told on the chat on Verizonwireless.com they could, I didn't want to argue with them so I just said "you don't know what you're talking about, I'll buy it from htc" and walked out. Bought the Verizon version from HTC.com and got free headphones. Thanks for the help guys.
Kane5581 said:
Went to Verizon and they said they couldn't do the payments without changing my unlimited plan, even though I was told on the chat on Verizonwireless.com they could, I didn't want to argue with them so I just said "you don't know what you're talking about, I'll buy it from htc" and walked out. Bought the Verizon version from HTC.com and got free headphones. Thanks for the help guys.
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If your UDP still costs $30, they're right. They only allow UDP plans to do DPP post-price-increase (to $50).
I have unlimited data and originally ordered the Verizon phone from Verizon on the payment plan. Changed my mind after Dot and the devs found a way to completely convert the unlocked phone to Verizon version. Sent the Verizon phone back and ordered the unlocked version from HTC. Followed the conversion instructions and couldn't be happier. In addition to not having to send the phone off to get it rooted, I like having a year's worth of Uh-Oh protection from HTC. I can't think of any reason (other than maybe the international problem that was mentioned) for getting the Verizon version.
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If your UDP still costs $30, they're right. They only allow UDP plans to do DPP post-price-increase (to $50).
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He was trying to get me on a 6gb plan, he said something about my unlimited being cheap. The minute they make me give up my udp or raise the price I'm out just on principle, the price should come down for the same service over time not go up.
hunteditor said:
I have unlimited data and originally ordered the Verizon phone from Verizon on the payment plan. Changed my mind after Dot and the devs found a way to completely convert the unlocked phone to Verizon version. Sent the Verizon phone back and ordered the unlocked version from HTC. Followed the conversion instructions and couldn't be happier. In addition to not having to send the phone off to get it rooted, I like having a year's worth of Uh-Oh protection from HTC. I can't think of any reason (other than maybe the international problem that was mentioned) for getting the Verizon version.
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Uh Oh protection is covered for Verizon phones. An HTC rep said it was and Verizon confirmed it for me.
Kane5581 said:
He was trying to get me on a 6gb plan, he said something about my unlimited being cheap. The minute they make me give up my udp or raise the price I'm out just on principle, the price should come down for the same service over time not go up.
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If your UDP still costs $30, they're right. They only allow UDP plans to do DPP post-price-increase (to $50).
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I'm still on the $30 unlimited plan and they let me do payment plan and keep plan the same.
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I'm still on the $30 unlimited plan and they let me do payment plan and keep plan the same.
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Guess you got lucky! Officially, Verizon said that only UDP lines post-increase get to do DPP:
Check the last paragraphs:
http://www.cnet.com/news/verizons-grandfathered-unlimited-data-users-face-20-price-hike/
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/08/verizon-to-increase-unlimited-data-pricing-by-20-in-november/