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Just a general question. So what do you guys do when the G2 comes out with the HSPA+...do you upgrade to it or stay with your Vibrant?
I have to stay with the vibrant, used my upgrade for it already.
I chose the vibrant because it is high end enough to stay a top device for some time, knowing I won't be upgrading again soon. The G2 may be faster (data speeds) but not sure yet how much better it will be and who knows when I get HSPA+ in my location. I am happy to stay with my vibrant and already exptected nicer phones to be released soon and I got this phone anyway. At least it will keep up with the best for time to come still.
Going to stay with the Vibrant. I was upgrade eligible back in December and was sick of playing the waiting game, even with a G1 running cyanogen. With that device I could not just pull up a browser and go to a bookmark in seconds, the lag took minutes. I thought I would miss the keyboard, but swype has impressed me.
There will be better and more powerful phones coming out soon (like always) but they will not have this screen for at least another year. I feel bad for the people who wait and wait and wait for the next best thing while never experiencing it. I also don't want to be one of the people who regrets their purchase. This is a great phone and the processor/screen/devs will keep it running for some time.
Well, I used my upgrade on the vibrant and yes I did know about the G2 and all the other Tmo phones coming out later this year.
However those phones will not be running a hummingbird processor and a Super AMOLED screen.
I am generally pretty happy with my vibrant. Other than the minor GPS issues, non functioning compass, iPhoney design and plasticy feel.
It's beauty is skin deep and I really do love it.
The G2 having HSPA+ is nice and all but i get 3-5 down and 1-2 up in NYC that's faster than my home DSL.
If the G2 does have a keyboard like rumored that will turn me off as I perfer swype over any physical keyboard any more.
The one thing that is completely enticing me towards the G2 is the stock google experience.
So it is really up to you. I am interested to see how the G2 is going to turn out.
If it's a successor to the G1, then I don't want it. I don't like the bulkiness of qwerty phones and the big bulge they make in my pocket. I'm happy with the Vibrant and it will last me couple of years.
The G2 looks really good, up until you get to the part of the processor. It's rumored to have a "budget-friendly" Snapdragon variant, and no one is sure if it's running at 800 Mhz or 1 Ghz. Even if it's the full Snapdragon that's in other devices, the Snapdragon is a dated processor compared to the Hummingbird.
Now whatever HSPA+ phone is coming out in December with the dual core 1.2 or 1.5 Qualcomm, that should be interesting. But then again, you would be trading away for what is likely an inferior display to the SAMOLED. Choices, choices.
Vibrant is still a "higher" end device. So the Vibrant wins IMO.
I'll wait until the specs are announced to make that decision. I'm sure I'd have no problem selling this phone if I end up wanting to.
I don't like having physical keyboards which is what the g2 sounds like..also if it has sense if probably stay away
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HSPA+ is pointless unless your tethering a ton of devices (by ton I mean like 5). And constant tethering becomes pointless due to Tmobiles 10gig cap.
I would rather have the Hummingbird!! Homerun battle and Heavygunner are some of the better games I've ever played on a handheld. GO GPU!!!
I'm pretty satisfied with the vibrant, although i wish the feel/weight/build quality was better like htc phones. The G2 won't have better hardware than the vibrant, but if you want better download speeds and keyboard then its justified. I say if you are gonna wait, wait for Desire HD or Glacier, if they are coming to t mobile.
I liked my vibrant but returned it due to the GPS and compass issues. If both are totally fixed by November, I'll buy the vibrant again. If not, I'll wait until the MTHD and see how that is.
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Rather have power...I also like the thin light package..My HD2 feels like a tanK.
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I really don't understand the fervor and I don't mean to be a jerk. Why is it such a big deal?
I have a friend who's even held out for the g2 over the vibrant.
Probably because T-Mobile is marketing the G2 more since it has the T-Mobile brand. Kind of like what Verizon does to "Droid" It's all marketing.
im not excited. sure it will be a great phone. but i honestly think it's ugly. i can appreciate the hw keyboard though.
Some people are excited because it comes with Android 2.2 and given Samsung's past, we could be waiting a while for 2.2.
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Some people are excited because it comes with Android 2.2 and given Samsung's past, we could be waiting a while for 2.2.
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You don't seem very optimistic at all. Samsung UK have confirmed Android 2.2 for UK but nothing for U.S., hoping for the same result in the U.S. or at least close to it.
It utilizes HSPA+ which is only really useful if it's deployed in your area.
The marketing angle (mentioned above) is certainly part of it. Also, it's the named-successor to the G1 - that's special for lots of folks. Thats the highlight for me, really. If the Galaxy S lineup hadn't gotten the XDA section and CM roadmap (legitimized the platform, in my eyes) I might be waiting for a G2 also. Now that I've got my Vibrant, though ... No way could I be happy with a smaller screen and lesser CPU/GPU. I love my Vibrant. Some folks really love the thought of a "official" Google phone though. To each their own. Anyway, if the Vibrant starts pissing me off 6 months from now, G2 means I have something else to try out instead.
I LOVE my Vibrant but I will most likely get a G2, mainly because of the keyboard, the success and continued support the G1 still gets from the XDA community.
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Keyboard isn't even a necessity for me. 4" Screen + Virtual Keyboard (or Swype) works more than fine for me. I definitely do think T-Mobile will spend most of their money towards marketing the G2 and saying it runs at 4G speeds (HSPA+)
just because the cpu has a slower max speed doesnt necessarily mean the phone will run slower. plus the vibrant has touchwiz bogging it down a little. the g2 is vanilla android 2.2. I'm excited for it.
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just because the cpu has a slower max speed doesnt necessarily mean the phone will run slower. plus the vibrant has touchwiz bogging it down a little. the g2 is vanilla android 2.2. I'm excited for it.
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Eugene released a package to remove TouchWiz. Get your facts straight.
Also, once CM6 gets released.. everything will be good again.
If the g2 has a working GPS and compass I'd consider it a better phone than the vibrant on that alone. I could care less about the qwerty keyboard but g2 will be shipping with swype so that's good. Hspa+ is a major leap for tmo where the vibrant won't even be able to compare. G2 is basically the next gen dev phone for Android. That holds a lot of weight for many.
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Eugene released a package to remove TouchWiz. Get your facts straight.
Also, once CM6 gets released.. everything will be good again.
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I know... I have hybrid r3 currently installed. I'm just saying it will be fast without having to remove excess stuff.
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Physical keyboard, HSPA+, stock android 2.2 (I think I read that they added 4 more homescreens though). Also, given the fact that it's the G1's successor, it'll be great for the mod/hack community
It sucks I bought my vibrant over a month ago, I would've gladly returned it for a G2
I'm still not real sure if I want to give up my Vibrant for the G2. I really don't think the G2 will just blow the Vibrant out of the water or make it obsolete. It has a slower processor, smaller screen, smaller battery, and is thicker. What I didn't like about my G1 and Cliq was the thickness. When I got swipe on the G1, I stopped using the physical keyboard and I wouldn't be using it if the Vibrant had one either.
It does have a camera flash, 2.2, and HSPA+ and potentially more support/development, but nothing else about it is appealing. The trackpad is neat, but I feel like too much real estate is being wasted below the screen on the G2, making it longer than it should be. I've been getting along just fine without a trackball/pad for a few weeks now.
I wish there was just a little more known about the hardware and an exact release date. I don't think I could lie with my old Tmobile Dash for more than another week if I sent my Vibrant back.
it's all about that scorpion processor, its the first of its kind on a phone, and although it is clocked lower than the current superphones (g2 running at 800mhz instead of 1ghz). it is a 45nm processor rather than a 65nm like snapdragon and other 1ghz, meaning it'll consume less battery power and be more efficient most likely beating the current 1ghz in speed and performance.
especially since its running stock froyo..theres also the hspa+ speeds, and for some ppl the physical keyboard is a plus. This phone will most likely take the crown as the fastest android phone...but..I still think it looks ugly and too plain :/
I wouldnt get too excited till it actually comes out. Then we'll know for sure on everything. All this regret or this will be better is just whatevers till the g2 is actually out
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just because the cpu has a slower max speed doesnt necessarily mean the phone will run slower. plus the vibrant has touchwiz bogging it down a little. the g2 is vanilla android 2.2. I'm excited for it.
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Exactly!
The processor in the G2 is an 800MHz Scorpion processor, which benchmarks at around the same performance level as the 1GHz Hummingbird processor in the Vibrant and is a bit more efficient on battery power. It's a huge improvement over the Snapdragon processors, about 4 times the speed at comparable clockspeeds.
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I know... I have hybrid r3 currently installed. I'm just saying it will be fast without having to remove excess stuff.
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even if you had a G2 running Vanilla i'm guessing that it wouldn't be running "STOCK" you would mod it like the majority of us here on XDA. That is the fun of it. Removing **** that we don't want and adding stuff that we do. So for us it really doesn't matter at the end of the day that the G2 will be running Vanilla. SO WHAT. Our vibrant will have AOSP and CM6.1 soon enough Just sayin.
Well, the G2 will awesome, I only have a problem with it:
It's release will severly slow down development on the Vibrant. :/ I've only had my Vibrant 3 weeks so if development doesnt pick up soon ill trade it in for a G2.
Hey XDA,
I currently have a MyTouch 3g 32B. Yeah I know, ancient, right? I'm currently looking to upgrade to either a T-mobile MyTouch 4g or a T-mobile G2 (aka Desire Z).
I'm into custom ROMs, radios, hboots, SPLs, kernels, you guys know the drill. I'm pretty dedicated to Cyanogenmod, and I've noticed that they only support the G2 right now, I haven't really heard anything about the MyTouch and CM. So this gives the G2 a big advantage over the MyTouch.
Keyboard doesn't matter. The front facing camera gives the MyTouch a little bit of an edge. I'm leaning towards G2 because of modding.
This isn't really a versus thread, as I have almost all the info I want from gsmarena.com. But I'm having a hard time comparing the CPU and GPU in the two phones. Not much turns up on Google. Obviously the speeds are different, but that doesn't matter much as I'll be overclocking it.
So which phone has a better CPU/GPU? I've heard the G2's GPU is currently the best, not sure how true that is. I will be using the phone for emulators.
The question: what does XDA think of the CPUs/GPUs? Can anyone give me the model of GPU the phones use?
Thanks!
Nick
P.S. Cross-posted to G2 general.
I had the G2 and I can tell you 100% this phone is hands down better. CM will come to this device soon as well. Don't settle for a phone based on what it's development is at in a given time. Look at what is better in terms of hardware and over all device specs. With 786 mb of RAM and FFC and perm root this MT4G nails the coffin on the heavy loose dangling hinged G2.
A good developer is going to be receiving his MT4G really soon to pick up the CM port for our MT4G.
I also love the MT4G and there WILL be many roms on it just look in the general discussion section where they have raised money to buy phones for devs to allow them to make roms. but about the G2 hinge problem just check it at the store before you buy it (hold it upside down ...) my friend did this and he got 1 with a very sturdy hinge. As to your gpu/cpu I don't know but I think the CPU is the same (don't take my word for it though).
CPU =MSM8x55 at 1Ghz
GPU = Adreno 205
The MSM7x30, MSM8x55, and the MSM8x50a all use a 45nm process. The speeds are 800Mhz, 1Ghz, and 1.3Ghz respectively.
The Adreno 205 is a significant performance enhancement from the Adreno 200 found in the first gen snapdragon processors found in the Nexus One, etc.
The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
MSM = Mobile Station Modem
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The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
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Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!
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Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!
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To each his own. I personally had 2 g2's and ended up sending them both back for random reboots and loose hinges. The reboots were fixed with the ota and custom roms I think but that hinge made me almost drop the phone several times and was going to do nothing but get worse over time. And it seemed to loosen up very quickly. Just FYI.
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I too owned the G2 and it was a great device. It was smoother than the 4g but I'm sure that's due to the fact that it doesn't have a skin on top #cough cough# sense LOL
... I really miss the hinge and keyboard... you really can't go wrong with either device but the 4g is cheaper and has more features...
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If you can be patient. I'd imagine a port from CM will be forth coming very soon.
I came from a 32B myself and this phone even with Sense is way better.
I personally like a physical keyboard like my wife's Slide, but her and I both like the MT4G better.
Your choice though.
the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.
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the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.
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I heard the reason why the g2 and the mt4g only have about 1gb instead of the 4gb as advertised is because some of that space is being saved up for gingerbread so eventually both devices will get updated
BTW just because the g2 currently can run CM doesn't mean that is superior than the mt4g just wait until they release some roms for this bad boy and will see how much this phone kicks ass even the stock Rom runs great just use LauncherPro instead of mySense no lag whatsoever
I had a G2 for about 2 weeks, and sent it back under the buyers remorse. Basically in stock form I like the G2 better, but felt the mytouch has a bit more longevity to it where it has more ram..that said I dont think you can go wrong with either phone. I am a stock froyo guy over sense or my sense crap but thats just my personal preference.
Running different benchmarks when clocked the same the G2 pulled ahead by a hair on most but I credit that to the mytouch running my sense, in actually using the devices I found the G2 to be smoother as well, but again the whole my sense thing again.
The mytouch line always seemed kinda kiddish to me somehow and it seems that a new model is always on the horizon, not trying to insult anyone that has one, or likes them..hell I have one currently lol, but I just cant shake the feeling that I am using a lesser phone, even though I know I am not.
Side by side I found the G2 to have a better display, colors looked more vivid and eye popping despite the mytouch having a slightly larger screen, the mytouch is slightly washed out looking, but that was only evident to me when they were side by side, using the phone on its own the mytouch is just fine and you dont really notice the colors and stuff when its not in a side by side direct comparison.
I suppose the end result would be whatever one you like better, both are good and the mytouch will have more ROMs for it shortly so that shouldnt really weigh in on your decision.
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Hey G2 people!
I just got this phone for free and I was wondering, is there anything else new on the horizon that I should wait for (and therefore sell this phone)?
I have the option to go with this or the Vibrant, (was offered both). Not sure which route I should pick or if I shouldn't pick either at all and just sell it off and put that towards something else.
Any input on the matter would be great.
Take it, the ETF is $200 but they still fetch almost $400 on ebay (since the free G2 deal is harder to get now than it was in November).
I'm kinda holding off on selling mine yet, I might just do it and go get a Virgin Optimus if/when those come around. Trading down sounds like a yucky idea but I wouldn't mind a considerably cheaper bill <3
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Take it, the ETF is $200 but they still fetch almost $400 on ebay (since the free G2 deal is harder to get now than it was in November).
I'm kinda holding off on selling mine yet, I might just do it and go get a Virgin Optimus if/when those come around. Trading down sounds like a yucky idea but I wouldn't mind a considerably cheaper bill <3
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Oh, I wasn't going to cancel on my contract, since I'm perfectly happy with my HD2. Lawl.
The history of phones with proper keyboards is that this is only the SECOND decent one (after the DREAM). All the other phones with keyboards have some stupid crap that makes the keyboard useless (like improperly aligned buttons -- see anything motorola for example). The wait was 2 years. If history repeats, it could be another 2 years before another good phone becomes available.
Note that there will ALWAYS be something newer and better waiting to come in the future. This will NEVER change. At some point, you need to say to yourself... ok, that's enough waiting!
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The history of phones with proper keyboards is that this is only the SECOND decent one (after the DREAM). All the other phones with keyboards have some stupid crap that makes the keyboard useless (like improperly aligned buttons -- see anything motorola for example). The wait was 2 years. If history repeats, it could be another 2 years before another good phone becomes available.
Note that there will ALWAYS be something newer and better waiting to come in the future. This will NEVER change. At some point, you need to say to yourself... ok, that's enough waiting!
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Hmm, thank you, you make a good point. How "fast" is the G2 under stock speeds? I am aware of the crazy 1.8 GHZ overclock going on with this processor (I'm still amazed that the processor doesn't melt). Do all of you guys run it at 1.8 GHZ all the time? Or do you just keep it at 1.4 or 1.5?
Also, any input about the Vibrant? Any users who moved to the G2 from the Vibrant?
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Hmm, thank you, you make a good point. How "fast" is the G2 under stock speeds? I am aware of the crazy 1.8 GHZ overclock going on with this processor (I'm still amazed that the processor doesn't melt). Do all of you guys run it at 1.8 GHZ all the time? Or do you just keep it at 1.4 or 1.5?
Also, any input about the Vibrant? Any users who moved to the G2 from the Vibrant?
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I generally keep mine at the stock 800 MHz, sometimes I run it at about 1 GHz, and I only crank it up to 1.5 GHz for benchmarking. It runs really smooth with very little or no lag at 800 MHz even with live wallpapers and widgets, and at 1 GHz, it's perfect in my opinion.
I think this is the best phone you will see on T-Mobile for quite a while. To me, it's significantly better than the Vibrant, Nexus S, or the new MyTouch, and I think it will be solid for a few years as it is an excellent phone with a strong dev community.
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I generally keep mine at the stock 800 MHz, sometimes I run it at about 1 GHz, and I only crank it up to 1.5 GHz for benchmarking. It runs really smooth with very little or no lag at 800 MHz even with live wallpapers and widgets, and at 1 GHz, it's perfect in my opinion.
I think this is the best phone you will see on T-Mobile for quite a while. To me, it's significantly better than the Vibrant, Nexus S, or the new MyTouch, and I think it will be solid for a few years as it is an excellent phone with a strong dev community.
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Hmm, thanks for that input, I appreciate it. I guess I'm going to finally make the move from WinMo (I'm one of the few nutjobs who actually like Windows Mobile) to Android soon from my HD2. With the whole MAGDLR going on, I'm going to let that settle over the next few months before I permanently put Android on that.
I'm not sure about this, but does the G2 have a separate GPU chip (Like the Vibrant), or is the SNapdragon in the G2 an "does-everything" kinda of chip?
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Hmm, thanks for that input, I appreciate it. I guess I'm going to finally make the move from WinMo (I'm one of the few nutjobs who actually like Windows Mobile) to Android soon from my HD2. With the whole MAGDLR going on, I'm going to let that settle over the next few months before I permanently put Android on that.
I'm not sure about this, but does the G2 have a separate GPU chip (Like the Vibrant), or is the SNapdragon in the G2 an "does-everything" kinda of chip?
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Android is light years ahead of WinMo. Android is so much smoother, more stable, and more usable. You will not be disappointed if you get the G2.
The GPU is integrated into the Snapdragon chip.
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Only a complete idiot would go to a Samsung device Go to the store and hold it in your hand, then you'll know what I mean
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I had a pretty poor impression of the plastic housing of the Galaxy S devices based on comments like this one. But when I went to the store and actually played with one, I was pleasantly surprised. Yes, its plastic and light. But didn't feel as cheap or poorly made as I had imagined. The build quality seems fairly solid, but that's just a personal opinion. And not nearly impressive (or sturdy feeling) as a brushed aluminum housing.
Physical design aside, negative comments I've read here and elsewhere regarding various issues with the Samsung devices (CPU lag, GPS issues) as well as poor customer support have been enough to turn me away from that manufacturer. Plus, I've read posts by a couple users on here that have owned both a Galaxy S device and the Vision, and say that the Vision is a better phone hands-down.
Thanks redpoint. Your opinion on the matter alongside others here pretty much have me set that I didn't make the bad choice by getting the G2. (The rep initially flat out denied and didn't want to give it to me and tried to sell me on the Vibrant ).
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I had a pretty poor impression of the plastic housing of the Galaxy S devices based on comments like this one. But when I went to the store and actually played with one, I was pleasantly surprised. Yes, its plastic and light. But didn't feel as cheap or poorly made as I had imagined. The build quality seems fairly solid, but that's just a personal opinion. And not nearly impressive (or sturdy feeling) as a brushed aluminum housing.
Physical design aside, negative comments I've read here and elsewhere regarding various issues with the Samsung devices (CPU lag, GPS issues) as well as poor customer support have been enough to turn me away from that manufacturer. Plus, I've read posts by a couple users on here that have owned both a Galaxy S device and the Vision, and say that the Vision is a better phone hands-down.
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Thanks redpoint. Your opinion on the matter alongside others here pretty much have me set that I didn't make the bad choice by getting the G2. (The rep initially flat out denied and didn't want to give it to me and tried to sell me on the Vibrant ).
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Your welcome! I think the only thing you are really gaining with the Vibrant is the bigger screen, which is also slightly more vivid due to it being AMOLED. But direct comparisons in reviews I've read (haven't had a chance to compare side-by-side personally) say the display on the Vibrant/Galaxy S is only slightly better than the display on the G2. The display on the G2 is still really darned good!
The Galaxy S phones have a much better speaker as well as the nicer screen and bigger internal storage. The negative points of the Galaxy have been debated again and again, but it does handle multimedia better, as well as shooting better video and pictures, in my opinion.
I still wouldn't swap my DZ for one though, even if you paid me - I NEED my keyboard, plus compared to my friend's Galaxy S, the battery life is WAY better
You just have to try both out and see what you like. I personally have both the Vibrant and the G2 and I have to say I like the Vibrant much better. Not only is it significantly lighter and won't weigh my pants down, the screen on the Vibrant just appears so much nicer than on the G2. While the G2 screen is nice, it appears no different than the one on the Touch Pro 2 that I had.
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Hmm, thank you, you make a good point. How "fast" is the G2 under stock speeds? I am aware of the crazy 1.8 GHZ overclock going on with this processor (I'm still amazed that the processor doesn't melt). Do all of you guys run it at 1.8 GHZ all the time? Or do you just keep it at 1.4 or 1.5?
Also, any input about the Vibrant? Any users who moved to the G2 from the Vibrant?
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I keep my max frequency in SetCPU at 1.5GHz, but I use the on demand governor so it's only that fast when it needs to be.
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I haven't touched the clock speed -- running it at 800 MHz. The thing is just wickedly fast. Most of this has to do with having a very decent GPU, and out-of-this-world I/O performance thanks to the eMMC. Changing the clock speed really won't yield a major overall performance improvement -- it will just benefit functions that are computationally intense...
Thanks guys for all the feedback.
I've actually seen the Vibrant in person, while I only played with it for like a minute, I remember noticing how "artificial" the screen looked. The colors just "popped" too much, like it was on max saturation settings.
But yeah, I guess I'm excited to have a look at a stock android phone for the first time (I hate any skin over it).
Cheers!
Sold my galaxy s, too many damn problems. Fixable, yes, but the list is almost endless G2 is the first phone I've ever had that is 'complete' from my perspective. Other phones advertise a lot, but don't do what they say on the tin. The galaxy s screen was very nice and bright, but as soon as you hold it at a slight angle it goes blue tinted.
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While the G2 screen is nice, it appears no different than the one on the Touch Pro 2 that I had.
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You sir, are smoking crack. The screen on the TP2 is not even close.
as an owner of both, i personally prefer the vibrant, when its not out for repairs. In the last 60 days i have had the vibrant fewer days than the repair shop.
Vibrant has a much larger screen, more basic layout, and is a LOT lighter. Desire Z has a slower processor but sense runs faster, and the more i use it the more i realize that sense is... nicer. just a better, more thought out layout for everything.
Personally given the choice i like my vibrant better, but its not very relyable and the canadian version anyways has a high tendancy to crash and burn, so given this information thats why i currently use my Desire Z.
In short: Vibrant has a much nicer screen, i like it better
Desire Z is more reliable, very nice phone well worth keeping considering vibrants issues
I've been using a g1 for the longest time, and have gone through tons of roms. It's finally time to move on though... the g1's community has largely ditched it's outdated hardware.
I'm looking at the vibrant and the G2 for tmobile, and the hardware seems to be roughly equal, with the g2 having a slight advantage in terms of muscle... hard keyboards are nice but I'm sure I can adjust.
I'm wondering how active the mod community is for the vibrant. I'm assuming no sense roms... I like sense but it's no big deal, I hear MIUI is nice. How stable/up-to-date are the better roms for the vibrant?
How do you vibrant owners like your phones? Do you wish you had anything from the G2?
Thanks
The vibrant is mostly dead. There are lots of stable 2.2 roms and tons of non stable 2.3 roms. We will never get official 2.3 ever. Go with the g2. Just keep in mind its a lot harder to root than the vibrant
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christpuncher said:
The vibrant is mostly dead. There are lots of stable 2.2 roms and tons of non stable 2.3 roms. We will never get official 2.3 ever. Go with the g2. Just keep in mind its a lot harder to root than the vibrant
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This is the kind of answer I was looking for, thanks. Looks like I'm going with the g2, unless somebody has a terribly compelling reason not to.
I aslo used a G1 for a long time:
I did have a G2 for a few months, and I'm pretty happy I switched to the Vibrant.
You just can't beat the Vibrant's screen, it's not even comparable to the G2's screen. Like night and day. It's also slightly bigger, which is good, because I have big hands.
The G2 is thick and heavy, if you drop it, it feels as if it would shatter into a million pieces. The Vibrant is light, and impressively thin.
Support from HTC on the G2 > Than the Vibrant's support from Samsung.
The Vibrant community has done a good job with putting Gingerbread on it, considering we don't have a source. I have a mostly bug free version of MIUI running on mine. My wife and I both use it as a daily driver.
I also prefer the Vibrant. In fact I prefer it so much we have 3 at our house. Latest one arriving tomorrow.
Development is mostly dead because CM7 is now bug-free and stable (except for mediocre battery-only about 15 hours on charge when you use the phone)
Phone itself is great. Screen and physical dimensions and weight are obviously big plusses and with CM7, it competes with dual cores just fine in speed. There's no slowdowns, lag, or anything like that. Tbh, I truly think it's the best single core phone at the moment. Dual cores are obviously better but also more expensive. You can pick up a Vibrant in good condition for $215 shipped.
G2 is also obviously another good choice. Personal preference there. Just know both phones are ridiculously fast on 2.3 and both can be overclocked a lot. Vibrant can push a good 1.4-1.5Ghz and G2 can be overclocked up to 1.6? I'm not all that familiar there.
Thanks for your input folks. I am aware that the screen on the vibrant is probably it's biggest selling point. Both phones are solid across the board hardware wise. The most important factor to me is the availability of solid roms for daily use, and right now it looks like the g2 is better supported by HTC.
If your rooting stable ROM's aren't a problem, but if your not then your screwed!
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