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Google Exec Hints at Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible, Evo 4G
http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/android_vs_iphone/google_exec_hints_at_why_nexus_one_was_leapfrogged_by_htc_incredible_evo_4g.html
"Nexus One isn't a failure so much as a casualty of the success of the next wave of Android smartphones. In a few months, I'm sure we'll be saying the same things about the Incredible and the Evo 4G."
Some people may be bothered with this, but I am happy with my Nexus One. I have no buyers remorse.
I don't view my N1 as obsolete in any way at all and am quite happy with it, it's no worse than the Incredible and all aspects of the device ooze performance
phones are starting to become like computers now. as soon as you buy one a new and better one comes out tomorrow.
and what sucks about is...you're suck with a 2 year contract.
So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
I always f*cking hate these posts. I really don't want to hear doom and gloom.
Definitely don't feel any remorse.
My phone is JUST as good as the ones that are coming out NOW.
Yea, 8MP cam + dual flash, but cmon, the pictures are hardly better.
Plus the nexus LOOKS better than both of those.
mortzz said:
So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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SERIOUSLY, people are rediculous....... I stayed with DDR400 until DDR32000 came out because it was a serious step up...... There is nothing that screams "OH MY GOD INNOVATION" about either phone..... My next phone will be when my Nexus no longer has the NAND capacity for the current Android version. I love my Nexus
i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1
Uh. What?
Incredible and Evo won't get FroYo until the end of this year.
How about we come back to this article then so we can point and laugh?
Having root >>>> anything else.
Have any high-end phones since the Nexus achieved full root? I mean cracked bootloader and all. Desire, Legend, new Droids - none have the kind of access we do. Heck, we may have the best fully root-able hardware HTC will ever release.
I dont think the Incredible is any better than the N1, i've played witht he incredible and it feels cheap plastic like and the camera sucks as well. I like the feel of the N1 and like the looks of it. The Evo is a whole different story...
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i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1
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They have "root" meaning they have su permissions. AFAIK they don't have write permissions to the partitions, so it's pretty worthless.
Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
Other than that the idea of having basically a google developement phone surpasses any of the other current phones, maybe when we see a decent hardware upgrade, then it will be a different story, but hopefully Google continues to make new Nexus phones.
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Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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That is sad. So they have the same MT issue as us, a much smaller dev front, usb-bricking issues while flashing roms, no full solution for being rooted/unlocked...took htc ages to release the kernel...they won't see froyo for ages (officially).
Not much to be ... wait for it... desired
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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How many points does a Galaxy register again? I'm guessing more than 2
In the UK, the N1/Desire is still the King. Desire = UK incredible, but is LITERALLY an N1, and I doubt we will ever see the Evo here [not even a whisp of 4g network].
Even if they did, all the incredible has is the less buggy touch matrix, although this has been nicely 'fixed' in froyo. The evo is a different breed of phone, id never buy it purely based on the fact that i like thinks to fit in my pocket xD
Until I see a snapgradon 1.3+, 1GB RAM, a TRUE 8mp+ cam, froyo, new gen OLED/better, my N1 can sleep with my girl any day.
that makes two of us i love man I LOVE MY NEXUS ONE
the video is @ livestream.com/disrupt/video?clipId=pla_cfa02640-01dd-4ac5-bba9-a2a2b0feee24
haha my friend was a tad jealous of me. he has the Hero and i like his sense ui. but the minute froyo came out, i installed it. i showed him how i can play hulu, i showed him that i got live wallpapers (of course he doesn't have 2.1) and the rest of the froyo goodness. and outta jealousy, he was like "oh well im gonna get a phone thats better than that. im give to get the Evo 4G that has everything the nexus one has and more, including Android 2.2" and i was like "riiiiight. just like the hero was supposed to (officially) get 2.1 right?" and he stood quiet lol idk about all of you guys but i don't really care for 2 led lights. im good with just one. as for 4G, i like to have the freedom to switch between my N1, my BB Curve 8310, and my iPhone 3GS with the simple swap of a SIM card so im great with my Sexy Nexy
Well im not happy..but wife moved us to verizon ( work ) hate to leave sprint.. and my hero.. but no choice in the matter atm.. Wife rules...lol
Will stick around though.. The hero section is what made me stick around.. you guys rule.. Plus still have 2 hero's laying around to tinker with.. Or sale etc.lol
Anyway.. guess its on to the darkside ( verizon ) wish me luck.lol At least its not att and iphone's right!!
we will be moving to them as well this winter. what kind of phones did you get? i think you can put your hero on verizon as well so you know.
Verizon has some awesome phones.. IMO the Incredible is still one of the best balanced in terms of performance and form factor
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Verizon has some awesome phones.. IMO the Incredible is still one of the best balanced in terms of performance and form factor
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if i was with verizon id get the droid2. the incredible is a smaller sized phone.
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Verizon has some awesome phones.. IMO the Incredible is still one of the best balanced in terms of performance and form factor
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Agreed, I'd love an incredible
Wife got 2 incredible's for a penny each.. They will arrive wed.. etc..
Really I can't wait.. cause like everyone has said its the perfect balance of size and performance...Lol few co-workers have EVO's And they are always asking me how to do this and that.. Got to admit the EVO is nice.. but still a tad too big for my taste.. 3.6 to 4 inch would be my max on screen size..
And fixxxer I dont care for moto. never have.. and never will. lol same with samsung.
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Wife got 2 incredible's for a penny each.. They will arrive wed.. etc..
Really I can't wait.. cause like everyone has said its the perfect balance of size and performance...Lol few co-workers have EVO's And they are always asking me how to do this and that.. Got to admit the EVO is nice.. but still a tad too big for my taste.. 3.6 to 4 inch would be my max on screen size..
And fixxxer I dont care for moto. never have.. and never will. lol same with samsung.
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Wow, nice, I'd love to have an Incredible, and I agree, I only like HTC Android phones
HTC is by far the best because of their overall build quality and support. Samsung and Motorola are both mixed in terms of which devices they support, and the pace at which they release updates. Some devices like the Behold II and almost all lower end Motorola phones get the shaft and hardly get any updates. Half of them are still at 1.5 or 1.6... but only the high end ones like Droid, Droid X, and Droid 2 (basically all Verizon ones) get satisfactory updates. I think Samsung is similar. HTC is much more consistent.
I don't think you'll miss the Hero at all, except for maybe the hardware buttons instead of capacitive buttons. But I tried out my friend's Incredible, and man was it smooth.. and it was the stock ROM
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HTC is by far the best because of their overall build quality and support. Samsung and Motorola are both mixed in terms of which devices they support, and the pace at which they release updates. Some devices like the Behold II and almost all lower end Motorola phones get the shaft and hardly get any updates. Half of them are still at 1.5 or 1.6... but only the high end ones like Droid, Droid X, and Droid 2 (basically all Verizon ones) get satisfactory updates. I think Samsung is similar. HTC is much more consistent.
I don't think you'll miss the Hero at all, except for maybe the hardware buttons instead of capacitive buttons. But I tried out my friend's Incredible, and man was it smooth.. and it was the stock ROM
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+1, to that, HTC has great phones and support
theimpaler747 said:
+1, to that, HTC has great phones and support
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the droid is a damn nice phone.
fixxxer2008 said:
the droid is a damn nice phone.
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Yeah, but I don’t like Motorola, or physical keyboards
fixxxer2008 said:
the droid is a damn nice phone.
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That is highly debatable with today's selection like the G2 and even the MyTouch Slide. Both keyboards are superior to the Droid's IMO.
Lol everyone has favorites. but myself really don't have too much time to invest in finding the perfect phone. Im sure the moto is nice. same for the epic's etc.. Hell even the iphone is nice to a degree.. The hero is just a phone.. but with it came this nice section on xda which to me made having and using it a joy.lol I always visit diff sections looking for themes and such.. But the hero section seems to have matured unlike other sections..
I almost feel like depressed. lol been with sprint since 97.. feels like a divorce..
I think the INC will be a nice phone.. once I strap my seidio 3500 mAh batt on it..
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Lol everyone has favorites. but myself really don't have too much time to invest in finding the perfect phone. Im sure the moto is nice. same for the epic's etc.. Hell even the iphone is nice to a degree.. The hero is just a phone.. but with it came this nice section on xda which to me made having and using it a joy.lol I always visit diff sections looking for themes and such.. But the hero section seems to have matured unlike other sections..
I almost feel like depressed. lol been with sprint since 97.. feels like a divorce..
I think the INC will be a nice phone.. once I strap my seidio 3500 mAh batt on it..
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I'm sure it will be well enjoy man!
Sent from my hero running froyo... take that Sprint!
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Lol everyone has favorites. but myself really don't have too much time to invest in finding the perfect phone. Im sure the moto is nice. same for the epic's etc.. Hell even the iphone is nice to a degree.. The hero is just a phone.. but with it came this nice section on xda which to me made having and using it a joy.lol I always visit diff sections looking for themes and such.. But the hero section seems to have matured unlike other sections..
I almost feel like depressed. lol been with sprint since 97.. feels like a divorce..
I think the INC will be a nice phone.. once I strap my seidio 3500 mAh batt on it..
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enjoy your new phone. hopefully when i move to verizon there will be a new webos device or a high end android phone.
I think the INC is pretty highend.. screen size aside... lol I mean its not a monster like the evo etc.. but spec wise should be alot better than the hero ive been running all year..
I mean outside of the few games.. wth would I need a dual core chip and a giant screens etc. for right now anyway? To open my email faster and see more of it,lol
Just joking of course.. but really the INC should keep me happy for awhile.. til i get bored...etc..
hey guys i have to buy one of these phones this wednesday. which one youguys think is better and why? please share and help me out
get the atrix if you can love with a locked boot loader , not sure though but most likely. But its got the best hardware out of all 3
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the_ahmadzais said:
hey guys i have to buy one of these phones this wednesday. which one youguys think is better and why? please share and help me out
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Atrix has the best hardware but won't get custom roms. The Desire HD has lots of custom roms.
The N1 is too old to get as a new phone now.
If I had to pick one of the three by Wednesday it would be the Desire HD. Motorola is a deal breaker for me as of today.
I have both the Nexus One and the Inspire, and am currently conflicted as to which one to use for everyday use. Right now I am on the N1 with Gingerbread, and waiting for a 2.3 release for the Inspire. Both are very capable phones, though I have had several major crashes on a bone stock Inspire.
The Nexus One was a recent thank you gift from a client, and the Inspire was a replacement from AT&T for the Captivate.
Atrix if hardware specs are important for you.
Desire HD if you want custom roms
N1 is the lousiest in terms of specs between the 3 phones, but is google branded and have the latest gingerbread official rom
navlem said:
N1 is the lousiest in terms of specs between the 3 phones, but is google branded and have the latest gingerbread official rom
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May be N1 is a too old to buy but it is not the lousiest... it is just an old hardware which was the best out there at the time... it still is better build quality than the DHD IMO, may be it is quiet comparable to the Atrix atleast considering build quality.
Again, it all depends on what's coming up next and I personally prefer Atrix if I was lucky to get it on any of the canadian careers
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May be N1 is a too old to buy but it is not the lousiest... it is just an old hardware which was the best out there at the time... it still is better build quality than the DHD IMO, may be it is quiet comparable to the Atrix atleast considering build quality.
Again, it all depends on what's coming up next and I personally prefer Atrix if I was lucky to get it on any of the canadian careers
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It's coming to bell soon. Check the website.
N1 is still a great phone. But the Motorola Atrix is sweet in hardware. I going to have to up a MAX phone. (Motorola Atrix)
I looked at the atrix today, and was surprised at how small it is. Not much bigger than the n1
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I looked at the atrix today, and was surprised at how small it is. Not much bigger than the n1
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It's only .3 inch different.
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get the atrix if you can live with a locked boot loader. Its got the best hardware out of all 3
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I agree. Most people don't root so as long as you are one of the many that don't then go for the Atrix 4g. 1930mAh battery is a game changer!
Well now that I have the Nexus I fell as though I can make a good argument.
I used the Atrix 4G all day, every day for about 5 days when I first got it, then traded my iPad for the Nexus o1
At this point, I have both of those and a Captivate, which I used tto compare the speeds.
Having them all hooked up over wifi aand loading the full Engadget page, the Atrix came in first with the Nexus coming maybe 2 seconds later at the most.
Pages load quickly, embedded flash plays nicely as well. I love the size and notification lights too.
All in all, I would say to get the Nexus one now (Haven't used the Desire) and save your upgrade for later this year; at least that's what I'm doing.
Personally I'm waiting, but if you have to buy then get the Atrix.
Well after almost a week with the new Sprint Nexus-S 4G, I plan to return it and get my EVO going again. My EVO was rooted with the best Sense based ROM, "Myn's RS 5" I still think the EVO 4G is one of the better smartphones on the market ( if rooted, and good ROM installed ) even a year after it's release, and the EVO-3D should be even better yet.
I wanted the Nexus for the lightweight form factor, and easy fit in pocket...beautiful screen...and better battery life.
Well a week later I can NOT stand "vanilla" Android, didn't realize how much I took "Sense UI" for granted, basic Android feels so, uh basic, and years outdated. I mean come on the default Voice mail is to call a phone # to access messages, lol that's from the 90's man. The dialer and contacts also seem super basic and like iPhone1 or Android 1.5, and the default e-mail for non gmail is horrible, the standard e-mail widget on the EVO is perfect, and ten million times better.
So many things on "vanilla" Android just seems to be done so poorly and outdated, makes me wonder what people like about ? I know it is meant to be tweaked and played with, and add all your own custom apps and widgets, but that is stupid to me, that is just saying stock Android sucks.
Plus the battery life on my Nexus-S is not stellar like expected, sure it is better than my EVO, but barely, and the screen is actually harder to see outside in the sunlight.
Will go back to my EVO 4G, and upgrade to the EVO-2 ( 3d ), can only imagine a Myn's based ROM on that beast, with Android 2.3...dual cores...1gb memory...4gb storage...higher res screen...
Only thing I don't like on the EVO is it's thick and bulky size, it is borderline just too heavy, and big, not the 4.3" screen, I mean look at the new Galaxy S-2, that is 4.3 but super thin and lightweight, wish HTC could slim it down a bit.
Opinions ?
To each their own, I guess. I haven't tried the Nexus and don't plan to get one. I'm holding out hope we'll get we'll get the Galaxy S 2. I prefer AOSP over Sense. Sense feels gaudy to me and forces an aesthetic I don't care for. I like a lean, minimalistic approach that I can customize and make my own.
Either way. Welcome back.
You know you can put different ROMs on the Nexus S right?
I won't go with the Nexus S because it doesn't have a notification led [RETARDED] and because it's a minor bump from the Evo [not worth the loss of an upgrade] but it seems like most of your issue is the ROM itself.
Unfortunately, I read on the EVO 3D forum that if Myn can't get his hands on an EVO 3D for the upgrade price, he probably won't be devving for it. He technically doesn't qualify for an upgrade yet I believe.
So...hey, donate some money so he can buy one I guess or figure out a way to get him one for the upgrade price.
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To each their own, I guess. I haven't tried the Nexus and don't plan to get one. I'm holding out hope we'll get we'll get the Galaxy S 2. I prefer AOSP over Sense. Sense feels gaudy to me and forces an aesthetic I don't care for. I like a lean, minimalistic approach that I can customize and make my own.
Either way. Welcome back.
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That's what Myn's ROM "Warmtwopointtwo" is for, it is still "Sense" based, but gets rid of all the crapware and bloatware, and streamlines everything in the background, just keeping the core "Sense" stuff. It is a very clean and stripped down look, and then can still be themed and customized to your hearts content.
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Unfortunately, I read on the EVO 3D forum that if Myn can't get his hands on an EVO 3D for the upgrade price, he probably won't be devving for it. He technically doesn't qualify for an upgrade yet I believe.
So...hey, donate some money so he can buy one I guess or figure out a way to get him one for the upgrade price.
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hmm...I am surprised on this forum, there isn't a Sprint rep that can cut Myn a deal, get him one for the upgrade price and not pay full retail ? I thought after one year you can upgrade to a new phone by renewing on a new 2yr contract and get the phone for the $199 price ? And usually most people have a $150 gift certificate by staying with Sprint after like 10 months, I know I got one.
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That's what Myn's ROM "Warmtwopointtwo" is for, it is still "Sense" based, but gets rid of all the crapware and bloatware, and streamlines everything in the background, just keeping the core "Sense" stuff. It is a very clean and stripped down look, and then can still be themed and customized to your hearts content.
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I've tried it before. It by far is my favorite Sense rom, but I still prefer AOSP roms.
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I've tried it before. It by far is my favorite Sense rom, but I still prefer AOSP roms.
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So whats the best AOSP ROM ? CM 7 ?
Wish Cyanogen 7 was ready for the Nexus-S 4G, but they say have to wait for CM 7.1 that has official support for 2.3.4 that is on the Sprint Nexus-S.
I also got the nexus s two days ago and to be honest I love it. It a lot slimmer and lighter than the evo and it actually does not feel like its bulky in the pocket. The screen it very nice, but at times it seems a little oversaturated. Even thou it's got a 5mp camera it takes great pics and the video recording it's pretty good as well, granted it's not recording at 720p. Overall I am really enjoying a smaller phone ( didn't realize the evo was so massive compared to other phones) and hope that sprint gets a dual core 4 inch phone. I was saving my upgrade for the evo 3d but after having the nexus s I might just keep this and skip the evo 3d. Hopefully there will be a nexus 3 by the end of the year?? who knows.
in caparison to the evo;
...stock vanilla is just fine for me, straight to the point. Battery has lasting longer than the evo, nexus s does not have notification led but there is an app called "noled" which has been working just fine, love the phone design.
To be honest the evo is capable of doing everything i ever needed from a phone, and so does the nexus s ( but better for gaming) but with new and bigger tech coming out every 6months you always feel like you "need" the latest. So far the thing I'm really enjoying about the nexus is the size, it feels like the perfect size.
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So whats the best AOSP ROM ? CM 7 ?
Wish Cyanogen 7 was ready for the Nexus-S 4G, but they say have to wait for CM 7.1 that has official support for 2.3.4 that is on the Sprint Nexus-S.
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I've been using Deck's AOSP rom. There's a link to it in the Android Development forums. I use 1.0 because GB 2.3.4 roms have a MMS issue. I use Savages Zen BFS 2.1.0. You may like it.
CM7 has been unusually shaky, consider their track record. I have hope 7.1 will being more stable than the past releases.
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hmm...I am surprised on this forum, there isn't a Sprint rep that can cut Myn a deal, get him one for the upgrade price and not pay full retail ? I thought after one year you can upgrade to a new phone by renewing on a new 2yr contract and get the phone for the $199 price ? And usually most people have a $150 gift certificate by staying with Sprint after like 10 months, I know I got one.
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UT OH! Someone hasn't been paying much attention for the last three months...
I was almost going to get Nexus. Glad I didn't. EVO 3d will be beast.
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I feel the opposite I'm keeping the nexus
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here's wishing there was a 'you must be borderline MR' button...
you do realize you can put almost whatever UI you want on almost any android phone, right?
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CM7 has been unusually shaky, consider their track record. I have hope 7.1 will being more stable than the past releases.
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I agree. CM is the only thing that makes AOSP any good. Without it, it does kinda suck. Unfortunately, CM hasn't been very good for me since CM6, forcing me to go back to Sense.
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here's wishing there was a 'you must be borderline MR' button...
you do realize you can put almost whatever UI you want on almost any android phone, right?
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Try putting a Sense based ROM or UI on my Nexus-S, there is only one that I know of, and it is in beta, with a lot of features still not working. Don't know of any other "Sense UI" for the Nexus-S ?
Nice thing with Sense based phones, is they get the Sense ROM's of course, but also can easily install the AOSP ROM's too.
Watch this good hands on video of the new EVO 3D, mainly showing off Sense 3.0, which I what I wanted to see more of, I could give two ****s about the 3D on the phone. Actually I wish Sprint sold two versions, the "Sensation" non 3D version is slightly thinner, but exact same hardware.
But Sense 3.0 looks very ncie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdKBaC9sao&feature=related
Lol that video is like us trying to get Virus's rom to work right
Eh, it's only boring if you have no imagination and/or no ability to make things how you want them.
Vanilla android does one thing nicely, that's let you do anything you want. ADW and themes is a great example of that. I'm on AOSP right now and here's my homescreen, you may not like it, but if you don't think you could have made it how you wanted then you just didn't want to try. This is why we like Android over iOS, because we have freedom of expression, not conformity to look like everyone else's.
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Eh, it's only boring if you have no imagination and/or no ability to make things how you want them.
Vanilla android does one thing nicely, that's let you do anything you want. ADW and themes is a great example of that. I'm on AOSP right now and here's my homescreen, you may not like it, but if you don't think you could have made it how you wanted then you just didn't want to try. This is why we like Android over iOS, because we have freedom of expression, not conformity to look like everyone else's.
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So when I click your image on my evo is that the difference in screen size to scale? Or has the size of the image been reduced a bit?
So I see that the HTC Rezound dropped down to $50 today, and I've been looking for a cheap 4g phone that isn't the stratosphere. This "looks" like a good deal, except I know absolutely nothing about HTC phones.
The beats audio thing looks pointless to me, but does anyone have any thoughts on the rest of the phone? I am entirely clueless about this so any insight is appreciated.
Thanks
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So I see that the HTC Rezound dropped down to $50 today, and I've been looking for a cheap 4g phone that isn't the stratosphere. This "looks" like a good deal, except I know absolutely nothing about HTC phones.
The beats audio thing looks pointless to me, but does anyone have any thoughts on the rest of the phone? I am entirely clueless about this so any insight is appreciated.
Thanks
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the rezound is a good phone. with an unlocked bootloader, 4g, hd screen and htc, its a good upgrade. plus you could even sell the earbuds and make all your money back id say go for it if you dont mind a phone on the thicker side lol
it's a nice phone, especially at that price. good specs, nice HD screen (though not amoled so not quite as vibrant) and fast data. I'd recommend it, especially with the ics upgrade coming in a few days.
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Coming from someone who really doesn't enjoy touchwiz at all, is sense enjoyable to use? It doesn't look like the Rezound has any ICS source which worries me, but maybe I'm more worried than I should be because Samsung destroyed my confidence in custom skins?
I might just have to get my AOSP fix from my Gtab, but I'm also just realizing how awesome the Fascinate is.
Thanks again!
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Coming from someone who really doesn't enjoy touchwiz at all, is sense enjoyable to use? It doesn't look like the Rezound has any ICS source which worries me, but maybe I'm more worried than I should be because Samsung destroyed my confidence in custom skins?
I might just have to get my AOSP fix from my Gtab, but I'm also just realizing how awesome the Fascinate is.
Thanks again!
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being that i came from an htc eris, i can say sense is nice but laggy...and samsungs are still about the easiest to mod. unfortnately ICS source would have to be out before i would make the switch...gingerbread blowz!
Hardware wise, it's a pretty good phone for $50. I personally wouldn't be interested in it since (sorry to be harsh) but AOSP development looks... less than promising. Wouldn't be terribly interested in sense. There will be official ICS soon, but it's with sense 3.6, not version 4, which looks like the only decent iteration of sense in ages.
k_nivesout said:
Hardware wise, it's a pretty good phone for $50. I personally wouldn't be interested in it since (sorry to be harsh) but AOSP development looks... less than promising. Wouldn't be terribly interested in sense. There will be official ICS soon, but it's with sense 3.6, not version 4, which looks like the only decent iteration of sense in ages.
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It looks like all they need is s-off (which from what I can see is very close to being completed) to gain access to the nand partition, and ICS kernel source.
So I guess I need to find out if HTC is good about releasing kernel source, if they are I might just pick this up.
4G tethering to my tablet is just so tempting...om nom nom!
if you like sense (or think you might), its probably worth getting
i wouldnt your breath for aosp though as they dont have any experienced aosp guys who own the phone or are working on it
really though being tied to that phone for 2 years might be kinda rough imo...id soldier on and wait for any news on either a better htc (hopefully a one series) or the sgs3 and try and pick up a charge on the cheap on craiglist ebay (cant be more than 125 these days) if you need lte
sendan said:
So I see that the HTC Rezound dropped down to $50 today, and I've been looking for a cheap 4g phone that isn't the stratosphere. This "looks" like a good deal, except I know absolutely nothing about HTC phones.
The beats audio thing looks pointless to me, but does anyone have any thoughts on the rest of the phone? I am entirely clueless about this so any insight is appreciated.
Thanks
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Yo dude just to update, I ordered the rezound today. Pretty pumped
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antp121 said:
Yo dude just to update, I ordered the rezound today. Pretty pumped
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It's tempting! Especially since my most non-techy friend just bought a gnexus and waved it in my face all day, lol.
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It's tempting! Especially since my most non-techy friend just bought a gnexus and waved it in my face all day, lol.
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Get it then! It's arguably the best phone on Verizon. Dual core. Hd screen. Unlockable bootloader. One of the best cameras. You really can't go wrong. You can wait it out for a better phone (gs3 or HTC one series), but don't get your hopes up. Good luck and choose well because you only have 24 hours. Plus try to use amazon wireless. Free shipping no tax some extra free apps and I got a free car charger!
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Honestly I've been using aosp on my phone ever since I got my inc2. sense is too ugly and boring for me but it's just my opinion. Also, they aren't much faster at updating phones than Samsung. I would wait for Galaxy Note variant if there's one ever or sgs3.
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xHoLyx said:
Honestly I've been using aosp on my phone ever since I got my inc2. sense is too ugly and boring for me but it's just my opinion. Also, they aren't much faster at updating phones than Samsung. I would wait for Galaxy Note variant if there's one ever or sgs3.
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Ya you pretty much nailed the two reason I haven't bought it yet.
1.) No AOSP, and they're getting ICS delayed over and over.
2.) Tegra 3...om nom nom...it's worth the wait.
nitsuj17 said:
if you like sense (or think you might), its probably worth getting
i wouldnt your breath for aosp though as they dont have any experienced aosp guys who own the phone or are working on it
really though being tied to that phone for 2 years might be kinda rough imo...id soldier on and wait for any news on either a better htc (hopefully a one series) or the sgs3 and try and pick up a charge on the cheap on craiglist ebay (cant be more than 125 these days) if you need lte
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They are working on RIL for CM9. Once that gets worked out (and they do have experienced AOSP guys working it), and ICS kernel source drops it'll be done. From what I understand, there are quite a few devs that are ready to start working on the Rezound when the s-off method is released.
For everyone bagging on sense, it really is a matter of opinion and taste. I'm running a Sense 4.0 Rom that was just released today and it is really nice. Still needs some work and polish, but it is running very well. It's funny, a lot of people complain about Sense being ugly, but it is amazing how many people want to run an AOSP Rom but also have a lot of the Sense widgets like the flip/weather clock and animations, and Friend Stream (which I personally can't stand), and the app drawer. Personally, I like both and think they both have their strengths and weaknesses.
What AOSP devs do they have and what's the status of S-OFF?
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What AOSP devs do they have and what's the status of S-OFF?
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dmeadows3,synisterwolf, and droidvicious (MIUI) are two that I know of. Plus two awesome devs that usually work on Sense Rom's (Joelz and newtoroot) I believe said that they are going to contribute to the RIL issues too.
As for S-Off, last week globatron and his team did a very short closed beta on a method for S-off and successfully attained s-off on several peoples rezounds. We are just waiting for them to get it ready for prime-time and then we're golden.
I can't wait for CM9 and Miui v4 on this phone to be honest.
Nice, hopefully things speed up from this point and they can get some good AOSP development. Without solid AOSP rom support, it'll be hard for me to upgrade.
I suppose I just thought it was funny how a bunch of rezound people were talking about how much greater the rezound is than the nexus, "wait until we have CM9, this thing will spank the nexus!". This was like 5 months ago when the phones were coming out (and still no AOSP), but I still see comments like that. I don't really care since I don't have either device, just thought it was mildly amusing. Not saying AOSP roms won't happen, but most of the people you mentioned port sense roms, which as I understand, is a different animal then building from source.
Hopefully they can get the RIL figured out.