For a Good Laugh - Streak 5 General

For a Good Laugh - Streak 5 General

Call AT&T and ask for help with your Dell Streak. I called them yesterday (on speakerphone) since front speaker was not working and it took them literally 15 minutes to locate internal support info on the Streak. They said, "no one here has even heard of this device." "Where did you get it?" I said Best Buy and that AT&T had 10 month carrier exclusivity in the US when it was released in US. She said I should take it back to Best Buy. Wow, thank you so much for the help AT&T!! I never would have thought of taking it back where I bought it.

Not the first time I have read abut this. AT&T doesn't have a clue. Even if they recognize your device I think it shows up in the system as a Dell Lattitude.
Like the rep at best buy setting me up tells me I cant keep my grandfathered smartphone unlimited data plan, I had to choose a 2gb plan, I dont think so. Spoke to a manager got it straightened out.

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Rogers Wireless Customers READ THIS!

I talked to a rep today on the phone and told him I was using a custom firmware and wanted my Data back.
He said sign this waiver, saying you cannot hold Rogers responsible for not being able to dial 911, and you can use your custom firmware.
Thank me later. Unless this is old news...
https://your.rogers.com/web_auth/HT...ts-_-Consumer_Wireless_Eng-_-Form-_-HTCwaiver
After signing you will have data back in 24hours.

midnightmach said:
I talked to a rep today on the phone and told him I was using a custom firmware and wanted my Data back.
He said sign this waiver, saying you cannot hold Rogers responsible for not being able to dial 911, and you can use your custom firmware.
Thank me later. Unless this is old news...
https://your.rogers.com/web_auth/HT...ts-_-Consumer_Wireless_Eng-_-Form-_-HTCwaiver
After signing you will have data back in 24hours.
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it is old news , but i've tried for 2 days now and it will constantly tell me to enter a valid serial number ..I am using the IMEI from the box and under battery still no success

daeshawn said:
it is old news , but i've tried for 2 days now and it will constantly tell me to enter a valid serial number ..I am using the IMEI from the box and under battery still no success
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Ah ok, yea it's not taking my IMEI either... i called rogers and they are working on it... hopefully they get back to me quickly.

Is this a downgrade? So you can use custom ROMs? Or is it just data enabler for rogers customers? This won't help anyone stuck on sense?

I signed this on Friday and since have had my data cut twice!
The 2G Force trick works for getting it back every time so far, so I haven't bothered to call them on it yet. If they start redirecting my calls again they will hear from me for sure.

I talked to rogers live support because my imei number wasnt being accepted and he ended up putting it through... i think... I haven't installed a rom that wouldnt be blacklisted yet but yeah try that

The waiver form is mostly broken. The IMEI database it is verifying against seems to be missing many IMEIs for handsets purchased directly from Rogers, let alone from other carriers.
If you jump up and down and get to a tier 2 guy, he can manually get your IMEI added to the database so you can put the waiver through. The front line guys cannot add your IMEI, though they can send off a request for it to be added.
If you complain enthusiastically enough, they can re-enable your data services on the spot.
Apparently they cannot fill out the waiver for for you if you IMEI is not being recognised, though the tier 1 techs will lie and claim they are doing this.
This is based on my personal experience, of calls on Saturday, Sunday, a call back from a tier 2 on Monday and then a long and unpleasant call with retentions this afternoon. Magically the retentions supervisor could get me through to a tech that had override capabilities within minutes, once we got past the lies and bull**** stage.
In theory, once you get your waiver in, they should stop screwing around with your data services, redirecting voice calls, and hassling calls and text messages. I will see how it goes....

Well, thanks for the heads up with this waiver. Of course my IMEI # wasn't valid, so I called Rogers Directly, asking for Tech Support.
The point of my call was to get them to update my account, saying I accept this waiver. I think we all know it is hit and miss when speaking with Reps. I was speaking to a guy, he asked my Build Version, and firmware. I didn't tell him the Build Version (MarsDroid SPL7 1.8), because I knew it would not be acceptable. I told him my f/w was 1.6, which he said would be acceptable.
At this point, he said that I would NOT lose my data again, and Rogers would stop scanning my phone. I made sure to ask the question, so whatever I do to my phone at this point on doesn't matter, my data will not be cut off? He said yes.
I am only repeating what I was told, I think you can probably tell by my wording that I am not convinced this will be the case. Eitherway, I feel more confident to flash back to my old radio, which is all i want, because the kernel is much more developed, and makes for much more stable and faster ROMs.
Also, should let you know, so far I haven't had my data cutoff, I switched to CursorSense ROM before the Rogers scanning started, and have stayed on the New Radio up until now.

I signed the waiver on Friday, and got my service back Sunday morning.
No issues with IMEI...
I then called on Monday to get my free HTC Magic that I've been b1tching about for the last month (calling once a week)..
things are looking ok for now.. I have a Dream running Open Eclair (2.1), and now a stock unrootable Magic (1.5).. gonna keep the Magic legit thou..
I hope the best for all of you out there...

I lost my data six days ago now and I've called Tech Support 4 times since to help get it back. The waiver won't accept my IMEI and I've been escalated twice. Spoke with tier 2 support 3 times and a Manager. Apparently there is a system wide problem with allowing some IMEIs to be entered for the waiver to work. I'm getting so frustrated now, I don't know what else to do but wait. I've asked for network refreshes each time, and I've been running Cursorsense with the new radio.
Any ideas?

QtOn said:
I lost my data six days ago now and I've called Tech Support 4 times since to help get it back. The waiver won't accept my IMEI and I've been escalated twice. Spoke with tier 2 support 3 times and a Manager. Apparently there is a system wide problem with allowing some IMEIs to be entered for the waiver to work. I'm getting so frustrated now, I don't know what else to do but wait. I've asked for network refreshes each time, and I've been running Cursorsense with the new radio.
Any ideas?
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i lost data yesterday when running a customized 2.1 rom; flashed cursorsense, asked for data reset, and it comes back.
totally not expecting to be haunted with this after so long since the update.

stgeorge88 said:
i lost data yesterday when running a customized 2.1 rom; flashed cursorsense, asked for data reset, and it comes back.
totally not expecting to be haunted with this after so long since the update.
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I've been asking for refreshes as well, but I can't find anyone who's willing to do it.
I've even told them that I want to use my old phone until they fix the IMEI problem, but they said they can't allow me to use data on any phone until I do the waiver because I might go back to use the Magic.

QtOn said:
... because I might go back to use the Magic.
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LMAO @ rogers...

I am royally pissed about this because Rogers quietly released this after they started redirecting calls. I would have gladly signed this waiver if I knew about it, but instead was forced to update to their retarded ROM and now I'm stuck with all the pre-installed BS apps and without root access. They should at the very least give people the option to revert back to the old ROM via another "update". I was forced into this update because I couldn't afford to spend (scratch that, WASTE) time dealing with redirected calls.
In lighter news, HTC tweeted about their knowledge of specifically the issue with Rogers and promised something about 2.1 soon.

After reading all this I don't feel so bad about all my data issues. After refusing to flash the rom on the phone with rogers, they offered to send me a free magic+ with the new rom pre-installed. I signed the waiver also. So now I have my old magic with a custom rom, and a new one in a box with the rogers official update that I plan to sit on at least until HTC's 2.1 comes out.
On top of that I *****ed them out so hard after my 4th or 5th data loss/refresh experience that they offered me a few free months and reduced the cost of my data plan.
All of that and I was still pissed I didn't take their offer to upgrade to an iphone at a cost, I was too mad and just kept saying "I'm not paying anything to fix this crap" lol. Doh!

It's been 9 days now without data, and each time I talk to someone, I keep getting the same answer "We are aware of your situation and your call has been escalated and it will be fixed soon, try again tomorrow."
I want my data back and have been willing to do the waiver (it won't accept my imei). Have been running cursorsense with the new radio since all this has began.
I've spoken to Tier 2 support, managers and customer care. Who's left to talk to?

QtOn said:
It's been 9 days now without data, and each time I talk to someone, I keep getting the same answer "We are aware of your situation and your call has been escalated and it will be fixed soon, try again tomorrow."
I want my data back and have been willing to do the waiver (it won't accept my imei). Have been running cursorsense with the new radio since all this has began.
I've spoken to Tier 2 support, managers and customer care. Who's left to talk to?
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telus, bell....? Honestly don't take that kind of ****, threaten to leave if they keep f'n you around, and follow through if they don't sort it out. There's no reason to pay for nothing. They give you a free month? So what, you're using them for their service, no service.. whats it matter if its free or not?

frankinmerth said:
After reading all this I don't feel so bad about all my data issues. After refusing to flash the rom on the phone with rogers, they offered to send me a free magic+ with the new rom pre-installed. I signed the waiver also. So now I have my old magic with a custom rom, and a new one in a box with the rogers official update that I plan to sit on at least until HTC's 2.1 comes out.
On top of that I *****ed them out so hard after my 4th or 5th data loss/refresh experience that they offered me a few free months and reduced the cost of my data plan.
All of that and I was still pissed I didn't take their offer to upgrade to an iphone at a cost, I was too mad and just kept saying "I'm not paying anything to fix this crap" lol. Doh!
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dude, you are now officially my role model.

frankinmerth said:
telus, bell....? Honestly don't take that kind of ****, threaten to leave if they keep f'n you around, and follow through if they don't sort it out. There's no reason to pay for nothing. They give you a free month? So what, you're using them for their service, no service.. whats it matter if its free or not?
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I was reading this & I remembered a situation I had with Bell regarding my internet contract. I've tried that threaten to leave.. and was expecting to get away with some kind of deal..
then was totally shocked when the csr said, 'sure, so you will owe us the remainder of your term...plus a early cancellation fee'
in the end, it costs more to leave then to just stick around.

stillriza said:
I was reading this & I remembered a situation I had with Bell regarding my internet contract. I've tried that threaten to leave.. and was expecting to get away with some kind of deal..
then was totally shocked when the csr said, 'sure, so you will owe us the remainder of your term...plus a early cancellation fee'
in the end, it costs more to leave then to just stick around.
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The same happened to me the other day, they told me it would cost me over 600 to cancel the account for all 3 of my phones.
Still calling everyday and still waiting.

Sent this to rogers about the waiver

This is unbelievable
I've been a Rogers Customer for over 8years. My average bill is about $100 a month, for 8 years. Yet loyalty means nothing with this company. I consider 8 years to be along time. (especially with the current market for cellphones)
MY STORY
I was "duped" into upgrading my phone recently to a HTC Magic, before i went ahead and agreed to the Magic, I researched the phone on the internet, the specs where great, the Android software too. I was assured by the guy on the phone (ROGERS EMPLOYEE) that this phone would recieve all the OS updates in a timely fashion. WRONG.
I proceeded to install my own OS on the phone, as its MY PHONE. However in doing so I had my Data cut off. Which I'm paying for, $30.00 a month.
Of coarse the Online Waiver didn't work, so I called Rogers on Monday 8th Nov 2010, at 8.00pm, after the usual 40min hold time, I explained to the tech what happened, he told me he would enter my IMEI and i'd have Data once i pull the battery from the phone, and restart it. LIE.
Tuesday morning, Today, still no Data, called Rogers before going to work. I need the DATA for my work, emails and whatever. I was told by a tech 3-5 business days.
So if Rogers can just cut me off. Everyone this happens to should recieve a credit for the days they have not got DATA!! I still haven't signed any waiver, yet Ive been cut off!!??
ALSO IF ROGERS HAVE CUT OFF MY DATA AND CANT PUT IT BACK ON FOR 3-5 BUSINESS DAYS (SUPPOSEABLY) THEN WHAT IF I MISS AN IMPORTANT EMAIL, AND LOSE A CONTRACT BECAUSE OF IT, REMEMBER I STILL HAVEN'T SIGNED ANY WAIVER, YOU HAVE JUST CUT ME OFF!! WHO'S THEN RESPONSEABLE??
It shouldn't be that hard, I can tell you my IMEI over the phone, why cant the Tech handle this, makes no sense??
IM DISGUSTED. NOT MY FAULT YOU GUYS CANT KEEP UP WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO ANDROID.
ITS MY PHONE!!! I CAN DO WHAT I LIKE!! I CAN STILL MAKE 911 CALLS. I HAVE ANDROID 2.2. THE PROBLEM WAS WITH 1.5.
SO WHY AM I BEING PUNISHED?? 8 YEAR CUSTOMER?

Just had an email back from rogerserin. Ive been banned from the rogers forum.
Oh well.
Great way to treat long term customers

Maybe you have to put your apn ?
google rogers apn
click the first one
should be the website called thekidd

Hmm..Sounds like my case. I pay 110 dollars a month, for T-mobile. Their customer suppose wont even help me activate my phone. I pay for data, but I cant ACTIVATE it with data. Which PISSES me off, Because I dont even use it alot. Ive been a customer for about 5 years. Atleast they should have gave me a new sim card in the mail, so I have some"hope" inside of me. Now I need to find a way to somehow "Bypass" the gmail activation. (none of my friends have T-mobile)

[Q] T-Mobile's exchange/replacement policy

Does anyone know tmo's exchange policy? I am on my 4th MT4G and this is one having problems. I want tmo to exchange/replace my phone with another phone of equal or lesser value. In the past they have given me this option or given me credit for the phone to apply to an upgrade.
I originally purchased the phone straight up and on the even more plus plan. I also pay for the PHP equipment bundle.
Thanks for help and hope to hear soon! If there's any more information you need then just ask.

I just ran into the same problem you have. I am on my 3rd 4g and asked them if they would do exactly what you were asking. I have the warranty purchase plan and even with that they told me at the tmobile store I was at can only offer whatever the computer gives you which is based off what HTC will give you.Each store also varies on if they will offer that as well. Why? Idk but in my case they offered me the HD7. I just laughed. So they tried calling the higher ups to see what they could do. I explained to them what was going on with the phone and the only thing he could offer me was a full upgrade discount on a different phone and I pay the difference. Not paying another $260 on another phone for one that I have had for less than year.
So in a nutshell. Tmobile will not warranty out your phone for a different brand one but they will (if the store allows for it or you gripe to the loyalty department) on a phone of the same brand. So it varies on the store you go to and it will have to be another HTC phone. Hope this helps you.

dive_junkie76 said:
I just ran into the same problem you have. I am on my 3rd 4g and asked them if they would do exactly what you were asking. I have the warranty purchase plan and even with that they told me at the tmobile store I was at can only offer whatever the computer gives you which is based off what HTC will give you.Each store also varies on if they will offer that as well. Why? Idk but in my case they offered me the HD7. I just laughed. So they tried calling the higher ups to see what they could do. I explained to them what was going on with the phone and the only thing he could offer me was a full upgrade discount on a different phone and I pay the difference. Not paying another $260 on another phone for one that I have had for less than year.
So in a nutshell. Tmobile will not warranty out your phone for a different brand one but they will (if the store allows for it or you gripe to the loyalty department) on a phone of the same brand. So it varies on the store you go to and it will have to be another HTC phone. Hope this helps you.
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Thanks for the reply! They offered me another MT4G or a "certified open boxed" G2. Whatever the F that means. So I get another phone with which I have had terrible luck with or a discontinued phone that actually came out before my phone. I refuse to believe their bull. I have been with them for 8-10 years and have always bought their highest end phone at the time and paid full price. Thank god I am an even more plus customer, time to move to Sprint unless they can cut the bull. Their "solution" to my problems and frustration is to keep on offering me the same phone. Makes a lot of sense T-Mobile! By no means at all am I trying to pass one over on them. I simply want an equal or lesser phone. I like T-Mobile which is why I have stayed with them for so long, I will call again and see what else they can offer. But, if they continue I will move to Sprint and never look back.

Sorry for replying so late but how have things worked out? The only reason I haven't switched companies is because T mobile has been pretty good with me. There rate plans are the best and that's the only thing that has kept me around. This is the only time I have had an issue with them. I would have like to switch out like you were wanting but I am glad I didn't.I just think this is best phone for me right now. At least until I can get the samsung galaxy 2.

The T-Mobile Thread

Too much chatter across multiple threads...
I found a temporary solution. I ported my number to AT&T. Thus far, coverage is fine, data speeds are disappointing only in the sense that where I am right now, I am getting less than the 8 Mbps Cricket would cap me at.* Cricket is apparently now owned by AT&T and now offers unlimited talk, text, and 20 GBs of LTE for $60.
My data worked upon activation.* It seemed my AT&T rep had to alter the IMEI associated with my prepaid account to get phone calls working.* Don't know if there will be any implications, but in the hour I have been with AT&T, some root apps (including Ultimate Dynamic Navbar, without which I have no Navbar) have force closed for the first time. Seems like coincidence but I guess not? This is happening regularly now, X many minutes after boot, and bluetooth is being disabled as well.
I hope that T-Mo gets this straightened out, unless AT&T really impresses me, I look forward to hopefully switching back to the $30 Wal-Mart 5 GB plan.
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Possible Solution?
thref23 said:
Too much chatter across multiple threads...
I found a temporary solution. I ported my number to AT&T. Thus far, coverage is fine, data speeds are disappointing only in the sense that where I am right now, I am getting less than the 8 Mbps Cricket would cap me at.* Cricket is apparently now owned by AT&T and now offers unlimited talk, text, and 20 GBs of LTE for $60.
My data worked upon activation.* It seemed my AT&T rep had to alter the IMEI associated with my prepaid account to get phone calls working.* Don't know if there will be any implications, but in the hour I have been with AT&T, some root apps (including Ultimate Dynamic Navbar, without which I have no Navbar) have force closed for the first time. Seems like coincidence but I guess not? This is happening regularly now, X many minutes after boot, and bluetooth is being disabled as well.
I hope that T-Mo gets this straightened out, unless AT&T really impresses me, I look forward to hopefully switching back to the $30 Wal-Mart 5 GB plan.
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I work for T-Mobile and have also have the same issues with my Z3tc I, being a store manager, have limited resources available to me but i plan to submit a ticket in hopes of resolving this issue, it would help if i had multiple issues to report however. If you folks are willing to help me out with this (power in numbers as they say) i think we may have a chance of getting a fix, what i need from each of you is your T-mobile telephone number that you've been using your Z3TC on and i can submit this ticket. Email your name and phone# to [email protected] and I'll do my best

Some more info on this can be found here
ipetitions.com/petition/let-us-call-because-our-tablets-are-made-to-call
Ive been using xda for a while now but didn't really have a good enough reason to creat an account but......since im new and can't post links hopefully you can addbthe http stuff
I really hope this can get cleared up soon a 500$ phone with practically the same features as a flip phone........ Smh

Any update?
tysontthompson said:
I work for T-Mobile and have also have the same issues with my Z3tc I, being a store manager, have limited resources available to me but i plan to submit a ticket in hopes of resolving this issue, it would help if i had multiple issues to report however. If you folks are willing to help me out with this (power in numbers as they say) i think we may have a chance of getting a fix, what i need from each of you is your T-mobile telephone number that you've been using your Z3TC on and i can submit this ticket. Email your name and phone# to [email protected] and I'll do my best
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Any luck with the ticket you opened? You might consider posting the ticket number both here and in the t-mobile support forum so that anyone with the same issue can easily contact t-mobile and reference that ticket. As you said there is power in numbers!

montp said:
Any luck with the ticket you opened? You might consider posting the ticket number both here and in the t-mobile support forum so that anyone with the same issue can easily contact t-mobile and reference that ticket. As you said there is power in numbers!
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Any update on this? My billing cycle started today and I think I got my internet pulled too. Called tech support and they said they don't know what the problem is. They said they elevated my ticket to a engineer and should hear back from them in 3 days. :crying:

just port the number to Metro its' the same network and just $10 more for unlimited you can always port the number back if t-mobile fix this issue.

Tweeted at Legere and Tmobile help and now I'm sitting on the phone with a tech rep. Let's see what happens. Seems like such an easy thing to switch and the irony is the paying customers and getting screwed and are jumping ship to pacify the freeloaders. I'm in love with huge phones and this is the First tablet with phone capabilities that plays nice with us carriers. I'm prepared to jump ship over this.
SO far she keeps insisting that it will work fine its it has the phone capabilities and i have the proper rate plan. She keeps putting me on hold....
There's someone who clocks into work 9-5 at t-mobile who can fix this issue with very little trouble, just have to locate that person.
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I work for T-Mobile and have also have the same issues with my Z3tc I, being a store manager, have limited resources available to me but i plan to submit a ticket in hopes of resolving this issue, it would help if i had multiple issues to report however. If you folks are willing to help me out with this (power in numbers as they say) i think we may have a chance of getting a fix, what i need from each of you is your T-mobile telephone number that you've been using your Z3TC on and i can submit this ticket. Email your name and phone# to [email protected] and I'll do my best
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So, The tech rep I just spoke to says that she can't open a ticket for me to send to the engineers until there's physically a problem. SO, I'm going to pick it up tomorrow and start the process. Anything happen with your ticket? Am I wasting my time?

I'm still waiting on a call back. Day 2 with no Internet. I told them to call me 24/7. I didn't bother calling today, but you can bet I will again tomorrow. Please, also get it elevated so that they realize this is not an isolated incident. I stopped by at&t today to ask about porting over my number. They said it would take 15 mins. About to jump ship and take my 5 lines on the account with me if I can't get the Internet to work again.
Please keep me updated, I'll keep you updated too.
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AirBruce said:
I'm still waiting on a call back. Day 2 with no Internet. I told them to call me 24/7. I didn't bother calling today, but you can bet I will again tomorrow. Please, also get it elevated so that they realize this is not an isolated incident. I stopped by at&t today to ask about porting over my number. They said it would take 15 mins. About to jump ship and take my 5 lines on the account with me if I can't get the Internet to work again.
Please keep me updated, I'll keep you updated too.
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They responded on twitter, let's see if they can do anything... Day 2 with no internet you said, did you just get it or have you had it for a while and it just stopped giving you data?
I wonder if walking into a tmobile store would help too...
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mottyengel said:
They responded on twitter, let's see if they can do anything... Day 2 with no internet you said, did you just get it or have you had it for a while and it just stopped giving you data?
I wonder if walking into a tmobile store would help too...
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I just read through a pretty depressing thread. I'm posting the OP's final depressing post after finally getting through to a tmo vp. You can read through the whole thread too if you like. Seems like the battle is lost at this point, it's over, i just have to decide in a few hours when the store opens if I want to leave tmo over this and go to metro... I've been really happy with tmo up until now...
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86423?start=0&tstart=0
After doing some research I got a hold of a couple of T-Mobile's executive e-mail addresses and typed in detail about what is happening here hoping someone would respond. Today I received a phone call from the office of the Vice president of T-Mobile. I had a detailed conversation about the problem. They said that our device, the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet LTE SGP621 should have never worked as phone with a data plan and T-Mobiles network should have recognized the device as a tablet and not allowed it to work as a phone with a data plan for the few months that it did right away. He also stated that T-Mobile up until I told him was unaware our device existed. He actually had to look up the device. He then went on to explain how the network didn't register the IMEI of the device right away that's why it worked on their network for those few months until the IMEI of the device was registered and classified on their network as a tablet. He didn't actually admit it was the free data for life program but if you understand how network protocols work I don't have to state the obvious. So the bottom line is that T-Mobile doesn't offer the service we are asking for on our devices. The way the network is structured it uses the IMEI number to determine the devices classification and then only allows approved services to be used on that particular device. So the rules on T-Mobiles network work says "Smart phones" are allowed to make phone calls, surf the web, send multimedia text messaging ect. and "Tablets" are only allowed to have a mobile data plan and are incapable of making phone calls. Our device is a phablet but there isn't a phablet classification on T-Mobiles network. Even though our devices will work, have worked, and can work the way we want, it is irrelevant due to the way the network protocols have been written. The industry is somewhat at fault here by not having a specific classification for a device like ours. It really should just be classified as a phone. The world I live in, if a device is capable of making phone calls its a phone end of story. Phones make phone calls, this is kid stuff. So there is no solution to our problem and there never will be one as of right now. So the device is useless in the US for what we bought it for. I would have never bought the LTE version if I knew this was the situation. The service I'm willing to pay for is not offered by any US carrier according to T-Mobile. I find the whole situation funny at this point. Look at it in this perspective, the hardware of our device is identical to the Sony Xperia Z3 that T-Mobile currently offers, the only difference is the size of the screen. and the IMEI number that says its a tablet. You can actually flash the Sony Xperia Z3 operating system onto our devices thats how Identical the hardware is. It's just the IMEI number that defines the devices classification. Overseas this isn't an issue. I'm hoping soon there will be a US carrier offering this service, the first company that does I'm switching to. I think I'm just going to cancel the line and use WiFi for now. I can't believe I spent close to $700 for this device and it's now basically the $400 WiFi version. I'm keeping my T-Mobile account because I'm grandfathered into a very good rate and I'm hoping they will eventually offer the service. but I know for a fact our devices will never work the way they did because of our devices classification. They would only be able to work if T-Mobile changed the networks protocols that classifies the device as either a phone or a tablet, as long as they have that protocol in place we are out of luck. I really don't see them ever getting rid of this classification/rule system on their network. So if they ever do offer a "Phablet" device with the service it will be on T-Mobile branded devices only because those devices will have an IMEI that classifies it as a "Smart phone" or by that time they will have added the new classification of "Phablet".. Good luck to everyone that was having the same issue, I really thought we had a chance at solving the problem because our devices "WORK" on T-Mobiles network perfectly. If anyone knows a carrier willing to provide the service to our devices please let us know.

mottyengel said:
They responded on twitter, let's see if they can do anything... Day 2 with no internet you said, did you just get it or have you had it for a while and it just stopped giving you data?
I wonder if walking into a tmobile store would help too...
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I just read through a pretty depressing thread. I'm posting the OP's final depressing post after finally getting through to a tmo vp. You can read through the whole thread too if you like. Seems like the battle is lost at this point, it's over, i just have to decide in a few hours when the store opens if I want to leave tmo over this and go to metro... I've been really happy with tmo up until now...
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86423?start=0&tstart=0
After doing some research I got a hold of a couple of T-Mobile's executive e-mail addresses and typed in detail about what is happening here hoping someone would respond. Today I received a phone call from the office of the Vice president of T-Mobile. I had a detailed conversation about the problem. They said that our device, the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet LTE SGP621 should have never worked as phone with a data plan and T-Mobiles network should have recognized the device as a tablet and not allowed it to work as a phone with a data plan for the few months that it did right away. He also stated that T-Mobile up until I told him was unaware our device existed. He actually had to look up the device. He then went on to explain how the network didn't register the IMEI of the device right away that's why it worked on their network for those few months until the IMEI of the device was registered and classified on their network as a tablet. He didn't actually admit it was the free data for life program but if you understand how network protocols work I don't have to state the obvious. So the bottom line is that T-Mobile doesn't offer the service we are asking for on our devices. The way the network is structured it uses the IMEI number to determine the devices classification and then only allows approved services to be used on that particular device. So the rules on T-Mobiles network work says "Smart phones" are allowed to make phone calls, surf the web, send multimedia text messaging ect. and "Tablets" are only allowed to have a mobile data plan and are incapable of making phone calls. Our device is a phablet but there isn't a phablet classification on T-Mobiles network. Even though our devices will work, have worked, and can work the way we want, it is irrelevant due to the way the network protocols have been written. The industry is somewhat at fault here by not having a specific classification for a device like ours. It really should just be classified as a phone. The world I live in, if a device is capable of making phone calls its a phone end of story. Phones make phone calls, this is kid stuff. So there is no solution to our problem and there never will be one as of right now. So the device is useless in the US for what we bought it for. I would have never bought the LTE version if I knew this was the situation. The service I'm willing to pay for is not offered by any US carrier according to T-Mobile. I find the whole situation funny at this point. Look at it in this perspective, the hardware of our device is identical to the Sony Xperia Z3 that T-Mobile currently offers, the only difference is the size of the screen. and the IMEI number that says its a tablet. You can actually flash the Sony Xperia Z3 operating system onto our devices thats how Identical the hardware is. It's just the IMEI number that defines the devices classification. Overseas this isn't an issue. I'm hoping soon there will be a US carrier offering this service, the first company that does I'm switching to. I think I'm just going to cancel the line and use WiFi for now. I can't believe I spent close to $700 for this device and it's now basically the $400 WiFi version. I'm keeping my T-Mobile account because I'm grandfathered into a very good rate and I'm hoping they will eventually offer the service. but I know for a fact our devices will never work the way they did because of our devices classification. They would only be able to work if T-Mobile changed the networks protocols that classifies the device as either a phone or a tablet, as long as they have that protocol in place we are out of luck. I really don't see them ever getting rid of this classification/rule system on their network. So if they ever do offer a "Phablet" device with the service it will be on T-Mobile branded devices only because those devices will have an IMEI that classifies it as a "Smart phone" or by that time they will have added the new classification of "Phablet".. Good luck to everyone that was having the same issue, I really thought we had a chance at solving the problem because our devices "WORK" on T-Mobiles network perfectly. If anyone knows a carrier willing to provide the service to our devices please let us know.
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That is some F#* King BULL SH!T!!!!!
I'm going to port my number out.
I just called back tech support and they didn't even know what was happening. No one ever seems to know. I'm going to Metro PCS. EFF these s0n's of b!tch3s.

Yup... Yup... I just had a very long conversation with a tech support guy (i gave him all a bunch of different forum thread links to read through) he read everything I showed him and he understood fully. He transferred me w8th details to someone else who again took plenty of time to read through everything including internal T-mobile discussion. He's gonna call me back on Sunday. I left off with him that everyone is jumping ship because of this, including me, all to pacify some freeloaders.
Of course, I'm not delusional. after reading the above thread I realize he's probably gonna get back to me with a sorry, nothing we can do. That's why I'm going to a metro pcs store today to sign up. I'm not porting my number just yet, first I want to test metro and give tmo a little more time. Plus, I have a new note 4 (warranty issue replacing my current note 4) coming which I will then have to pay off when I port my number out so I'm gonna sell. And actually, I'm going to finally port my number to Google voice so I can always jump around and back to our tmo family plan if they ever fix this.
So, to recap, joining metro today with the tablet and if/when he comes back Sunday with nothing, I'm porting out to Google voice.
I'm so disappointed with tmo. I joined them in 2012 right before everything started getting exciting in 2013 and on and I have been increasingly more happy with them ever since...
What a shame
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mottyengel said:
Yup... Yup... I just had a very long conversation with a tech support guy (i gave him all a bunch of different forum thread links to read through) he read everything I showed him and he understood fully. He transferred me w8th details to someone else who again took plenty of time to read through everything including internal T-mobile discussion. He's gonna call me back on Sunday. I left off with him that everyone is jumping ship because of this, including me, all to pacify some freeloaders.
Of course, I'm not delusional. after reading the above thread I realize he's probably gonna get back to me with a sorry, nothing we can do. That's why I'm going to a metro pcs store today to sign up. I'm not porting my number just yet, first I want to test metro and give tmo a little more time. Plus, I have a new note 4 (warranty issue replacing my current note 4) coming which I will then have to pay off when I port my number out so I'm gonna sell. And actually, I'm going to finally port my number to Google voice so I can always jump around and back to our tmo family plan if they ever fix this.
So, to recap, joining metro today with the tablet and if/when he comes back Sunday with nothing, I'm porting out to Google voice.
I'm so disappointed with tmo. I joined them in 2012 right before everything started getting exciting in 2013 and on and I have been increasingly more happy with them ever since...
What a shame
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I just came back from the cricket store. After writing my last post, I put my jacket on, and walked out, walked 6 blocks down, and had them port my number. So far so good. LTE speed is decent, and now I'm actually paying less! $35 a month. 2.5GB (which is enough for me, they had $45 for 5GB, maybe I'll upgrade next month) and unlimited talk and text. Not too shabby.
Dear T-Mobile. See how easy it was to "Un-carrier" you? I did it in less time, than it takes to do one load of laundry.

Nice hope it works for you. I need the unlimited data because I use North of 30gb a month... With I could go to cricket, but metros probably where I'll end up
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AirBruce said:
I just came back from the cricket store. After writing my last post, I put my jacket on, and walked out, walked 6 blocks down, and had them port my number. So far so good. LTE speed is decent, and now I'm actually paying less! $35 a month. 2.5GB (which is enough for me, they had $45 for 5GB, maybe I'll upgrade next month) and unlimited talk and text. Not too shabby.
Dear T-Mobile. See how easy it was to "Un-carrier" you? I did it in less time, than it takes to do one load of laundry.
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Well, I'm now a happy metro pcs customer. Just started porting my tmo number to google voice and it'll work through the new metro number. Turns out, my eip on my note 4 doesnt come due at all. As long as there are still more lines on the account, i can just keep paying it off month by month. Of course I'm gonna sell it soon but still.
BTW, to anyone who had this issue with tmo, you can get through to the engineering department for technical support, forward them to the following link so they can read up on the problem and then you can get them to credit your bill for the data portion since february. The credited my account 60 bucks.. Not bad. I wish I could have stayed with t-mobile but what can ya do.
Again, to all you people holding out for this to change. Not gonna happen. Not a chance in hell. really. It's a tablet now and it's final. you're gonna all have to move on

Metro is working fine for me is $10 more for the unlimited data but I am happy at least to have this working don't hesitate guys

Phone arrived but don't allowed me to pick up! Good job verizon!

My phone arrived but they would not allowed me to pick up. I ordered to ship to verizon store since I'm going to transfer from other carrier. They told me there is a system error that phone is not registered in the system. I wonder how people able to use it days ago. What a horrible service! I guess is time to cancel and switch to buy one get one free deal at att or tmobile.

The same thing happened when I walked into best buy to buy one yesterday. The first phone he grabbed Verizons system said it was not a Verizon phone despite it being in a Verizon box. The next one he grabbed the system said the simple was invalid. He called Verizon and 10 min later I walked out with the phone. It was strange

I would hope you wouldn't switch service over such a small issue that can be fixed. I think this is more of a impatient issue rather than what your stating. Just let them fix it and move on.

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