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Hey I just got the touch for Verizon and have a few rookie questions.
I read a lot about changing the ROM but am a bit confused. What is flashing? Is this necessary? I see that it is really dangerous and irreversible for Verizon. I see general instructions, but are there Verizon specific ones around anywhere?
Also I downloaded this Valhalla gps cab to get GPS working. After I resetted, I downloaded google maps and tried the gps with no luck. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Also I'd like to get that Manilla 2d on my phone. What's the best route for this? Am I risking getting rid of the cube?
I know I am asking a lot of questions, if you can answer one I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Zack
zfly9 said:
Hey I just got the touch for Verizon and have a few rookie questions.
I read a lot about changing the ROM but am a bit confused. What is flashing? Is this necessary? I see that it is really dangerous and irreversible for Verizon. I see general instructions, but are there Verizon specific ones around anywhere?
Also I downloaded this Valhalla gps cab to get GPS working. After I resetted, I downloaded google maps and tried the gps with no luck. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Also I'd like to get that Manilla 2d on my phone. What's the best route for this? Am I risking getting rid of the cube?
I know I am asking a lot of questions, if you can answer one I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Zack
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Great switch! I had to ditch my i760 too !
Flashing is the term used to basically say your upgading your ROM. It's not necassary, but once you do it, you'll be much happier with the overall performance.
Other vocab to know:
ROM: Read-Only Memory, all your system files, your OS.
Radio: This is for your phone, and GPS, you need a v3.XX for GPS functions.
RUU: ROM Update Utility, the application used on your PC to flash the new ROM.
Bootloader: When flashing, this will be the screen you need enter, you can enter it by pressing and holding the Power & Camera buttons, then soft reset. You only need to enter this when checking SPL versions, and for flashing.
Kitchen: The set of files used to cook a ROM.
Cooking: Another term for creating a ROM.
You need to read as much as you can before you decide to flash a new ROM. When you do, you'll see those terms thrown around quite a bit, so know you won't be as confused, I hope. Those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.
For now, flashing the xv6900 is irreversible, so if you decide to do it, make sure you are fully aware of what you are doing, and be prepared in the event something goes wrong. But, if you can successfully update the ROM, you'll be happy with the end result. Trust me, it looks confusing, but when you're done you'll see it was really a piece of cake !
The reason your GPS does not work is because you have the stock Radio, it must be updated first, but as I said before, be sure to have a good knowledge on what you are doing.
If you want the Manilla 2D, just install the .cab file from its thread. It will not remove your cube, since they are two different "apps." But, my suggestion is to get rid of it, since it's quite useless, just search around, once you find the other great developments here, you'll want to ditch it ASAP.
For extras, see my Tips & Tricks thread, link in my sig.
What rom do you recommend? I am ready to flash it. I am looking for threaded text as well. I'd really like to use GPS as well. And I though there was a ROM with Manilla 2d, maybe I am confused. Anyways, please recommend a popular rom, and where I could find some instructions.
Thanks so much.
I e-mailed you, but I then figured I should make it public
zfly9 said:
What rom do you recommend? I am ready to flash it. I am looking for threaded text as well. I'd really like to use GPS as well. And I though there was a ROM with Manilla 2d, maybe I am confused. Anyways, please recommend a popular rom, and where I could find some instructions.
Thanks so much.
I e-mailed you, but I then figured I should make it public
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There really isn't a "popular" ROM in the sense each one is different and better suited for different people. 99% of the ROMs available will have the updated Radio as a mandatory step, so GPS will be included, and threaded SMS is a default for WM6.1, also a standard in most ROMs. I think there are a few Manilla 2D ROMs available, but all it really means is, it's included with the ROM.
When you flash the new ROM, you update all the system files, so after a flash, if you were to do a hard reset, you will not go back to the original VZW ROM, but the new one you flashed. So, with that in mind, do some browsing around to find what's included in the ROMs available.
All the ROMs you find will be different, they will have different apps, tweaks, and graphics. Just think what you would prefer, a fast ROM, lots of included apps, or one with more storage memory?
After your first flash, the Radio will be updated, and the device will remain unlocked. So unless you need a new Radio version, which I highly doubt, you can flash any ROM of your choice, without having to unlock the device or update the Radio. You'll probably go through a few to see which one you like the best.
Also, make sure you have read everything possible, thinking about this logically, you've got a 50% chance to do this wrong, nothing personal. Just be sure your confident you have read enough, and know you can fix it if there is a problem. As you know, it's irreversible, before you flash, ask yourself if you have a spare $300-$400 just in case.
Happy Flashing !
just discovered this, which is what ive been looking for which should help you.. its in the wiki tab but heres the link
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Flashing Guide
thanks champ
thanks champjt your post was informative
Wow 50 percent chance? I don't like those chances. Is there a clear step by step instructions link somewhere, so I can increase my chances?
Also it says to delete your partnership with activesync. I'd like to keep all my contacts and datebook. Is this necessary?
Also, is it possible to just update the radio? Just to get GPS? And if so, how risky is this?
imdarkside said:
thanks champjt your post was informative
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No prob !
zfly9 said:
Wow 50 percent chance? I don't like those chances. Is there a clear step by step instructions link somewhere, so I can increase my chances?
Also it says to delete your partnership with activesync. I'd like to keep all my contacts and datebook. Is this necessary?
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Not always 50%, but there are really two options, it works or it doesn't, which is why I say it like that. I've got a link to a really good guide in my Tips thread.
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Also, is it possible to just update the radio? Just to get GPS? And if so, how risky is this?
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Updating the Radio and flashing are pretty much the same, considering you need to flash the new Radio for a new ROM, for the GPS enabled ones at least, which is almost all of them. Once you have unlocked your device and updated the Radio, flashing the ROM will be done almost in the snap of your fingers, the ROM is the easiest and most painless part. The first two, the Radio and unlocking, are the ones you need to pay the most attention to, and you should only really need to do those steps once for any ROM flashes ever on this device.
I recomment OMJ's bell ROM's, you can find them on ppc geeks. What's nice if you decide to install the manilla 2d today plugin it seems to work near perfect with his roms.
TheChampJT said:
Great switch! I had to ditch my i760 too !
Flashing is the term used to basically say your upgading your ROM. It's not necassary, but once you do it, you'll be much happier with the overall performance.
Other vocab to know:
ROM: Read-Only Memory, all your system files, your OS.
Radio: This is for your phone, and GPS, you need a v3.XX for GPS functions.
RUU: ROM Update Utility, the application used on your PC to flash the new ROM.
Bootloader: When flashing, this will be the screen you need enter, you can enter it by pressing and holding the Power & Camera buttons, then soft reset. You only need to enter this when checking SPL versions, and for flashing.
Kitchen: The set of files used to cook a ROM.
Cooking: Another term for creating a ROM.
You need to read as much as you can before you decide to flash a new ROM. When you do, you'll see those terms thrown around quite a bit, so know you won't be as confused, I hope. Those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.
For now, flashing the xv6900 is irreversible, so if you decide to do it, make sure you are fully aware of what you are doing, and be prepared in the event something goes wrong. But, if you can successfully update the ROM, you'll be happy with the end result. Trust me, it looks confusing, but when you're done you'll see it was really a piece of cake !
The reason your GPS does not work is because you have the stock Radio, it must be updated first, but as I said before, be sure to have a good knowledge on what you are doing.
If you want the Manilla 2D, just install the .cab file from its thread. It will not remove your cube, since they are two different "apps." But, my suggestion is to get rid of it, since it's quite useless, just search around, once you find the other great developments here, you'll want to ditch it ASAP.
For extras, see my Tips & Tricks thread, link in my sig.
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Wow TheChampJT! I wish i have seen this inmy earlier days, when i started tweaking my vogue! Thanks, this is a great contribution... Maybe worth a sticky?
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Wow TheChampJT! I wish i have seen this inmy earlier days, when i started tweaking my vogue! Thanks, this is a great contribution... Maybe worth a sticky?
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LOL! Happy to help! Its not finished yet but i have a tips and tricks thread, link in my sig.
Hello All,
as you can see from the title im a no0b ad Rooting the CDMA, while i have rooted and updated the ROM, i had a few questions the first rom that i have Found was the Fresh 1.1 Rom, I have since found the modaco ROM,
is there any major difference,
Also I cant seem to Update the Themes VIA "update.Zip" as it freezes so im assuming the themes i find are for different ROM builds.
Anyone that can toss me into the right Direction would greatly be thanked
iikingli said:
Hello All,
as you can see from the title im a no0b ad Rooting the CDMA, while i have rooted and updated the ROM, i had a few questions the first rom that i have Found was the Fresh 1.1 Rom, I have since found the modaco ROM,
is there any major difference,
Also I cant seem to Update the Themes VIA "update.Zip" as it freezes so im assuming the themes i find are for different ROM builds.
Anyone that can toss me into the right Direction would greatly be thanked
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you need to be really carefull where you are getting the themes from if you mess up and flash something for a GSM hero onto your phone it will brick it. I dont know where you are getting them from but I would make sure you stay in this sub forum untill you really have a grip on whats going on.
and if you are getting them from this forum then they may not be made for the rom that you are using.
do a search for metamorph its the easiest way to theme your phone if your new.
wtphoto said:
you need to be really carefull where you are getting the themes from if you mess up and flash something for a GSM hero onto your phone it will brick it. I dont know where you are getting them from but I would make sure you stay in this sub forum untill you really have a grip on whats going on.
and if you are getting them from this forum then they may not be made for the rom that you are using.
do a search for metamorph its the easiest way to theme your phone if your new.
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Hey Thanks I noticed in your Sig, that you use both Fresh and MaC for Daily builds which do you prefer and is there any reason why.. Thanks again
iikingli said:
Hey Thanks I noticed in your Sig, that you use both Fresh and MaC for Daily builds which do you prefer and is there any reason why.. Thanks again
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they are both great ROMs but my personal tase goes to the Fresh ROMs I think more than anything it comes down to 2 things
1: I like the rosie in Fresh compared to the stock one in MoDaCo
2: I like the fact that Flipz has removed a lot of the bloatware thats in the stock ROm where the MoDaCo ROM leaves everything in there along with adding some programs in. the only things I pushed back to Fresh where peep, IM, Sprint TV, and location service.
on top of that I have now added MoDaCo's custom kernel 1.1 and things seem much faster but who knows could be the placibo effect. and I have moded a lot of the fresh APKs. Changing the Dialer Changing the icons to the 2.1 icons added one of Noj's lockscreens and so on and so forth so I have really personalized Fresh Rom and its kinda hard to move away from that.
hey guys ive had a look through a number of rom forums and other stuff like that and i cant seem to get the answer im looking for. so let me tell you my story so you guys can understand what im looking for:
ok so i first got into xda forums and all that because i bought my legend, and it was awesome and what not, and then i get to uni and oh wtf i cant connect to the internet. so then i did some research into proxy settings and one thing led to another and i found out about these roms and rooting and whatnot.
anyways after playing around with a lot of roms and mods and yeah i found indigo bean to be the best rom for me, it would be that cyanogenmod but thats outdated and the camera doesnt work, and it would be azure if not that but azure doesnt let me connect to my uni network at all and yeah. oh and the proxy only works for browsers so its not 100% working.
ANYWAYS ive come to realise after unrooting and rerooting and back and forth that i prefer the original rom ie htc sense and all that, everything stock. however if i go stock it means i have the proxy issue again. now i found out about this "transproxy" app which from my reading actually allows you to use not only the browsers but also apps such as google maps, andorid market etc. however this still requires root access i read as well.
so now my main question is:
what is the most updated, stock rom with like apps to sd and you know all those standard features people like to have with root access which will let me use this "transproxy" app??
if someone could give me a clear answer or maybe some info on transproxy or any other help with my problem that would be awesome
thanks
EDIT: i just realised that im not meant to ask questions in this area of the forum.. its still related to development though lol
um well if its in the wrong place i guess one of the admins can move my question then? cheers
maybe trying this?
http://android-proxy.blogspot.com/2010/09/proxy-settings-android-application.html
only thing you have to do is rooting, afterwards you can install stock rom
yep thats the app i was talking about. the "transproxy" thing
ok so ive put this rom on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735299
and ive also installed the transparent proxy app
so tomorrow ill check to see if proxy works and if it does then well that was pretty easy and i probably didnt even have to post this thread
im back to square one i think, well not quite
this rom im using is kinda dodgy
like its stock, but its not stock stock
like theres a number of things that are annoying me
so uhhh yeah i reckon i might have to find another close to stock but rooted rom
curto said:
im back to square one i think, well not quite
this rom im using is kinda dodgy
like its stock, but its not stock stock
like theres a number of things that are annoying me
so uhhh yeah i reckon i might have to find another close to stock but rooted rom
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Thanks for the detailed, easy to follow statement there.
You could try "cooking" your own ROM. It's actually quite easy. If you find the HTC-WWE 2.03 ROM (shipped-roms.com) for the Legend, and look into dsixda's kitchen (here) you can just put the stock ROM in, just add the rooting thing ("2. Add root permissions") and then build and flash that; you'll have the latest (ish) stock ROM with root access. Nothing else changed.
TheGrammarFreak said:
Thanks for the detailed, easy to follow statement there.
You could try "cooking" your own ROM. It's actually quite easy. If you find the HTC-WWE 2.03 ROM (shipped-roms.com) for the Legend, and look into dsixda's kitchen (here) you can just put the stock ROM in, just add the rooting thing ("2. Add root permissions") and then build and flash that; you'll have the latest (ish) stock ROM with root access. Nothing else changed.
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh thats interesting.. ive cooked my own before but that was only with other peoples roms. i didnt know you could grab one of those stock roms you find on that site and turn it into a .rar thing. well obviously you can do that i realise now but yeah nah thats pretty cool. ill play around with it, thanks
I've noticed throughout threads that a lot of people have problems downloading some apps from the market when they flash CM9 ROM's over other or even the same CM9 ROM. I decided to just make a new topic on it hoping it will help some of you guys out. For some reason two files sometimes get corrupted in this process. If you have this problem the fix is very easy. All that's needed is to flash gapps in recovery again. This replaces the:
com.google.android.maps.xml and
com.google.android.maps.jar files.
These two files get messed up somehow and are essential for proper download of many market apps. I hope this can help some with this issue. Hit thanks if you want to or if you don't want to that cool too. I'm just glad to help where I can.
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Not exactly Development
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Sorry about that, I figured it would be since it had to do with flashing ROM's, especially ones that are still somewhat in development for the Incredible. This is crucial for getting some Market downloads to work properly on some ROM's.
Again sorry though and thank you for moving it to the proper place.
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Hello everybody, It´s been like a week since I last posted, a lot of things went wrong in my house and I somehow lost all my computers
anyway, back in business again, Last night I had to install the stock Sprint GB sbf, to my surprise it worked Really, Really good.
I´ve had a Defy+ and a Milestone 2, And I remembered having lots of issues with modding aka. no signal, wifi issues (like the cm7 and 9 ones) data issues, system lags, poor battery life, kernel errors on development, Overclocking settings not being saved, recovery mess-ups, and a lot of depicable stuff, most of all kernel-related.
Anyway, last night I flashed the stock rom over cm7 and noticed a real speed, functionality and battery boost, so I thought of just theming, de-bloating and optimizing the stock Sprint ROM.
Please follow me here:
We will never be able to flash custom kernels (not w/o the help of a reaaaaal good DEV)
CM9 &10, though they are eye-candy, are based actually on Gingerbread kernel, so no new features can be added besides the ones you can get withg new apps.
CM7, though stable, lacks the performance and functionality of the stock rom.
Finally, the stock rom as I said, (and I´ve tested TONS of ROMS in different motorola devices) is the one with the best responsivenness, snappiness and battery life, plus It's almost clean (eg. bloatware is easily removed.)
How will it be done?, you may ask.
Well Our first step, will be deodexing the stock GB SBF.
After deodexing we will be optimizing the build.prop on our phone, to trick apps into installing on our phones, and to make some quick optimizations.
Once we have deodexed our rom, we will be able to run,autorun and theme /system/apps.
Apps like Gnow, the statusbar and other tweaks can be easily (RELLY EASY) ported to deodexed ROMS
So this is the challenge guys, Let´s build our own stockcustom ROM.
So far I´m re-flashing stock sprint GB to continue testing only the essential apps, so we can build from there.
And just for a tease; here is my latest build.prop, with some tweaks and tricks taken from other roms and my personal experience, just make sure you have root access, fire up a file explorer and replace your build.prop
Please Refer to next post for links on how to maybe help me with deodexing the full rom.
And please, developers, dont take this as a shady move towards your development, I just think that the best way to make something is to start from scratch..... there are too many source files, modded files and crap files on cm7,9&10 specially when not officially supported (Because everybody messes with the files and re-distributes them, so a lot of clutter and unneeded files, references and code are injected on some releases....)
So my friends, we have a common goal, By now I have succesfully overclocked/undervolted the phone to 1350/233 mhz (not on recovery!!)
I´ve deodexed system/framework/
and Im stuck trying to deodex system/apps/
Xprt Owners of the world, please come on over here, we can do this...
I´m an architect/artist so I really want this to have a sleek look, but not copying a specific stock look, if you know what I mean....
From now on refer to the "wished features post" for features you´d like
And now my final statement:
Though it IS possible to compile JB or ICS from source to our phones, my experience with this somehow outdated android motorolas, is that you will not get significant performance boosts or super cool functions with new software. The only way to get this functionality is by upgrading the kernel which I again declare IS NOT POSSIBLE on our phone. CM9 and 10 my look like JB and ICS, but run straight off a GB kernel.
Yes you will get a lot of new stuff like menus and graphics, but the functionality will be the same, plus all the eye candy will trade off your new features with lags and possible errors.
Software is built in time with devices, and it doesn´t matter how much you say "but the hardware is capable of more!!", incremental software updates "ignore" some HW features, so they have to be forced or modified to run, which adds more procesess/tasks to the kernel and this will suck your speed and battery.
Let´s build something pretty...............:laugh:
Hello everybody, and welcome to the world of modding.
From today, we will be coordinating an army of people to work towards a common goal: Having the best ROM for our phones, and surviving the day.
The tools you absolutely need:
Brain
Hands
Eyes
Text-comprehension.
Be a self-troubleshooter
Advanced Google skills
Patience
Some Weed
First of all I will just oversee the topic: ODEXED vs DEODEXED
In simple words, Odexed systems have XX.apk and XX.odex, which store certain app properties (like icons, colors, fonts, menus) so that they wont be messed up with, thus making the system more stable, Deodexed systems, have only APK´s with their icons, colors and behaviors packed on, thus making theming, modding and using alternative system apps easier.
If you would LOVE to read about the subject, please refer to this: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-odex-and-deodex-in-android-complete-guide/
Well, now that you are totally aware of the odex-deodex situation, you might ask yourself..
-how the phuck do I deodex my system??????
Well, deodexing implies merging the .odex properties onto the apk.
Hey!!!! but how???
you need brains, patience, Java SDK7, Android sdk, and music.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852322 this instructions are for deodexing.. good luck....
To save your time, you need Android SDK and JSDK properly installed, you need xUltimate (Try and find the version that works on you), and you need the patience and willingness of Sidharta.
Ive tried already 5 versions of xUltimate to find out errors on different files!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065270This will tell you some other basics on the xultimate deal.
There are other ways to deodex, help me google that.
We will be based on the stock 1FF-p3_kronos_cdma_kronos-user-2.3.5-4.5.1-110-KNS-46-49-test-keys-signed-Sprint-US SBF....
I would love to develop something good to both sprint and boost, but I have a Sprint handset, so I cannot assure our development will work on boost handsets, so please just sprint handset owners only for now.
For xultimate errors and troubleshooting, please refer to Google.com!
Ive been up all last night deodexing my system apps, and found out that most google related apps cannot be deodexed...
maybe that's why you need to install gapps in cm7 or other custom roms...
anyway people, let's get fully deodexed.
Make sure you have both Android SDK and Java SDK 7 PROPERLY installed oin your pc before trying this.
Cheers, luck and please reply
One last thing, I dont know if it is related somehow, but try to flash your stock rom without a SIM card inserted
Quick update: I Think I´ve got it figured out....
You need full Android SDK, and Java development kit, Android sdk tools alone wont do it, and java alone wont do it, you need developer runtimes and libraries for some programs like xultimate to run right.....
And you need not to activate, use or anything your phone before trying to deodex, I guess just starting up and entering simple things as the time, or having a sim card installed, or your google account can write data on the phone and mess up with the deodexing process.....
xultimate has already deodexed full framework and has passed from the yesterday´s troublesome google quick search box...(first thing to fail last night) so let´s hope it goes well.. it is indeed a loong process...
and just another error, but now I think I have it figured out, you need smali-baksmali assembler/disassembler for some specific .jar packed files... I´ve just installed it, and hopefully will post a fully deodexed stock rom today or tomorrow, for you to test and for us to start theming.
remember if you want to try... you need jdk not just java, you need full android sdk bundle, and you need smali/baksmali on your jdk installation for it to work properly...
%#%"!!!
This completely sucks, I´ve been trying to troubleshoot the errors xultimate is throwing at me on specific files, that lead me to download A LOT of java JRE and JDK versions, and both in x64 and x32 flavors, which apparently caused a major mixup on my PC´s guts....
Now I´m freaking trying to clean up my dev enviroment, trying to re-set the appropiate paths and classes, but hell with it...
Anyone succeeded??? please let me know if you´ve tried and if you get into any error can you please upload a screenshot???
thanx
Sounds like hell. I haven't tried, because I just don't have enough time in the day to do something like this. Plus, the xprt is my only phone, so I can't afford to experiment on it much.
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tzuba12 said:
Sounds like hell. I haven't tried, because I just don't have enough time in the day to do something like this. Plus, the xprt is my only phone, so I can't afford to experiment on it much.
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Same.
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are you trying to deodex the stock rom?
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are you trying to deodex the stock rom?
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yes sir, but in the mean time I managed to patch it with the battery mod, power menu and ICS style notifications
If I can deodex it I think I can improve it a little bit more in terms of performance and looks and functionality , but my powerful pc is a zombie right now, this is no task an old notebook can handle
I have deodexed it a long time back but sadly I can't upload it now. You can run kitchen from cygwin and it will deodexed your rom completely.
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Ive used the kitchen and xUltimate with no good results mate!...
I always get smali errors or heap size errors despite I was using even a 4gb heap size, and tried using different versions of smali baksmali....
I am beggining to think I´ve been cursed by the digital gods.
BTW, if you´re able to upload it, I´ll be very thankful dude! I think Im going nowhere right now