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**HELP**Downgrading MyTouch/Magic to 1.5 to root

I got my mytouch(the older one, the one without the headphone jack). I have been trying to root it ever since then. but I can not do it at all.
1. I can not access my phone through adb NO MATTER WHAT, I have tried this in xp,7 and ubuntu. I always get no device found, but in fastboot mode, it is able to pick it up!!! Is there something that I need to enable on the phone? Or should the phone be in any special mode?
2. I have tried to downgrade to 1.5 using the sapimg, but it did not work at all. I would not mind using the goldcard method even though I have been advised not to do so. Even If I chose to use the gold card method, I could not do so since my adb method is not working properly!!!
Also my mytouch is unlocked, if that makes any difference.

vz2487 said:
I got my mytouch(the older one, the one without the headphone jack). I have been trying to root it ever since then. but I can not do it at all.
1. I can not access my phone through adb NO MATTER WHAT, I have tried this in xp,7 and ubuntu. I always get no device found, but in fastboot mode, it is able to pick it up!!! Is there something that I need to enable on the phone? Or should the phone be in any special mode?
2. I have tried to downgrade to 1.5 using the sapimg, but it did not work at all. I would not mind using the goldcard method even though I have been advised not to do so. Even If I chose to use the gold card method, I could not do so since my adb method is not working properly!!!
Also my mytouch is unlocked, if that makes any difference.
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do you have debugging mode on.. on the phone go to setting>application>development..turn on debugging mode... and do u have androidsdk set up??
p.s. go check out unlockr.com for a how to root they have videos

ADB works
Thanks, ADB works. Now I just need to get the phone rooted. I had no idea that it had to be enabled!!!
As for unlocker.com it does not work, its a spam site. I am going to try to root it again.

vz2487 said:
Thanks, ADB works. Now I just need to get the phone rooted. I had no idea that it had to be enabled!!!
As for unlocker.com it does not work, its a spam site. I am going to try to root it again.
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What is the error you are getting while trying to root using sampping.nbh?
I rooted my phone using unlockr.com, so unless you can prove things, dont start making statements about them.

vz2487 said:
I got my mytouch(the older one, the one without the headphone jack). I have been trying to root it ever since then. but I can not do it at all.
1. I can not access my phone through adb NO MATTER WHAT, I have tried this in xp,7 and ubuntu. I always get no device found, but in fastboot mode, it is able to pick it up!!! Is there something that I need to enable on the phone? Or should the phone be in any special mode?
2. I have tried to downgrade to 1.5 using the sapimg, but it did not work at all. I would not mind using the goldcard method even though I have been advised not to do so. Even If I chose to use the gold card method, I could not do so since my adb method is not working properly!!!
Also my mytouch is unlocked, if that makes any difference.
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What is this to do with development?>??
FFS everyone of you guys that has never posted before just starts a new thread because you cannot figure out what your doing
there are forums for you but they are not here!

ayush20m said:
What is the error you are getting while trying to root using sampping.nbh?
I rooted my phone using unlockr.com, so unless you can prove things, dont start making statements about them.
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These are the errors I am getting:
"model ID incorrect
update Fail!"
Also are you talking about theunlockr.com/? If you are then its a good site, has nice videos. Thats where I did most of my research.

vz2487 said:
Thanks, ADB works. Now I just need to get the phone rooted. I had no idea that it had to be enabled!!!
As for unlocker.com it does not work, its a spam site. I am going to try to root it again.
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its not theunlocker.com its theunlockr.com <<< no "e" before the "r"
o yea sorry i didnt add the "the" before

vz2487 said:
These are the errors I am getting:
"model ID incorrect
update Fail!"
Also are you talking about theunlockr.com/? If you are then its a good site, has nice videos. Thats where I did most of my research.
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This means your phone came pre installed with 1.6, you will have to use goldcard. There is no other way to root your phone.

Provide your phone information through fastboot. Turn off your phone, do back+power, then write your SPL (e.g 1.33.0004), radio (e.g. 2.22.19.26I), stuff like that is all on there. Then you can turn off your phone by holding down power again

I downgraded from the Official AT&T 2.2 update back to 2.1

I used the info on this page: *android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/310873/possible-hboot-downgrade/* it didn't downgrade the hboot, but that might be something to work on.
CHANGE STEP 3.4. "change it to 1.15.405.1" don't do that, change the "2.20.502.1" in the misc.img from your aria to 1.25.502.2
Oh and you'll need either a Temp root, or a Shell root for adb

I have done this and can confirm that this works
Thanks mate!

I just noticed the Aria got 2.2 finally, albiet through this silly sync method.... It's my wifes phone, I'm sure she's not going to be happy to have to hard reset it.. wth.
Anyway, so why are you guys going back to 2.1? I am surprised not to see more discussion on 2.2 in this forum, but I don't frequent it much since I don't own the Aria myself.

khaytsus said:
I just noticed the Aria got 2.2 finally, albiet through this silly sync method.... It's my wifes phone, I'm sure she's not going to be happy to have to hard reset it.. wth.
Anyway, so why are you guys going back to 2.1? I am surprised not to see more discussion on 2.2 in this forum, but I don't frequent it much since I don't own the Aria myself.
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I went back to 2.1 because the 2.2.2 version that AT&T released was extremely slow, and my touchscreen would become unresponsive.

andrewishcool95 said:
I used the info on this page: *android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/310873/possible-hboot-downgrade/* it didn't downgrade the hboot, but that might be something to work on.
CHANGE STEP 3.4. "change it to 1.15.405.1" don't do that, change the "2.20.502.1" in the misc.img from your aria to 1.25.502.2
Oh and you'll need either a Temp root, or a Shell root for adb
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How do you get a temp root or shell root with the new HBoot still in-place? If temp root is possible, then can't you install clockworkmod and get permaroot?

Gene Poole said:
How do you get a temp root or shell root with the new HBoot still in-place? If temp root is possible, then can't you install clockworkmod and get permaroot?
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I got a shell root from super one click root (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682)
after I downgraded to 2.1 I got z4root to get a temp root.

andrewishcool95 said:
I got a shell root from super one click root (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682)
after I downgraded to 2.1 I got z4root to get a temp root.
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I'm also very curious about this.

Sounds like the first steps to rooting and downgrading. I'm curious to see if any developers catch this
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I've been reading up on this and the skinny is that the HBOOT image controls the S-ON and S-OFF flags of the NAND RAM in the device. Even with a temp root shell, you can't write to a partition with its S-ON flag set. This normally includes all the partitions on the phone except the data partition, so trying to root the device requires some sort of interaction with the HBOOT image to turn off the S-ON flag for the recovery and system partitions to properly root a phone.
In short, if and until someone hacks hboot_liberty_7227_1.02.0000_101104, your phone is unrootable.

Gene Poole said:
I've been reading up on this and the skinny is that the HBOOT image controls the S-ON and S-OFF flags of the NAND RAM in the device. Even with a temp root shell, you can't write to a partition with its S-ON flag set. This normally includes all the partitions on the phone except the data partition, so trying to root the device requires some sort of interaction with the HBOOT image to turn off the S-ON flag for the recovery and system partitions to properly root a phone.
In short, if and until someone hacks hboot_liberty_7227_1.02.0000_101104, your phone is unrootable.
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Help me out, I may be thinking in the wrong direction, but I've been dealing with my nook which is why I thought of this.
Is there not a way to write an hboot to an sd-card or connect via usb at start to make the aria think that the sd-card or the usb connection is the corrected hboot, thus being able to modify?

FroztIkon said:
Help me out, I may be thinking in the wrong direction, but I've been dealing with my nook which is why I thought of this.
Is there not a way to write an hboot to an sd-card or connect via usb at start to make the aria think that the sd-card or the usb connection is the corrected hboot, thus being able to modify?
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There may be. When I first got my Aria, the rooting procedure involved an HTC signed update that you fooled the hboot into partially loading, then swapped the sdcard with the root package. It involved some complex timing issues where you had to run adb in a loop and plug/unplug the usb cable at appropriate times.
I've been searching the net for that procedure and I can't seem to find the right search terms, or I'm just not looking in the right places or something, but I know that's how I did my Aria before there was an unrevoked plug-n-root.

I have the procedure u are looking for i think...let me know if this is what u were after because i have an archive of saved documents I have copied from forums in the past...GOOD LUCK!
well apparently i haven't posted enough to put the links up in the post

PM me if you want the process...

xerotix said:
PM me if you want the process...
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May I have a copy of said process? Currently the only way is to buy a very expensive hardware called XClip. I have managed to get the updated 2.2.2 Stock ROM rooted but not deodex or EXT3 FOR ap2sd trying to play with some files from another source to get hboot s off.

econcep said:
May I have a copy of said process? Currently the only way is to buy a very expensive hardware called XClip. I have managed to get the updated 2.2.2 Stock ROM rooted but not deodex or EXT3 FOR ap2sd trying to play with some files from another source to get hboot s off.
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That process does not work with the new HBOOT. That's why unrevoked doesn't work. Having root access does not unlock NAND.
Currently, the only way known is via hardware tools.

It works. I managed a work around for 2.2.2 update
Hey everyone I am in the second phase of testing my work around with the new HTC Aria update from ATT. I managed to load the update and keep my phone rooted. I am now in the setup mode with no bootloop.
Running into a couple of issues with the new radio but I believe I know how to fix that as well. Keep you all posted and once all bugs worked out I will post my findings and HOPEFULLY MY ROOTED ROM.ZIP with instructions.
IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED.....TRY TRY TRY and TRY I did and I am 99% there.

econcep said:
Hey everyone I am in the second phase of testing my work around with the new HTC Aria update from ATT. I managed to load the update and keep my phone rooted. I am now in the setup mode with no bootloop.
Running into a couple of issues with the new radio but I believe I know how to fix that as well. Keep you all posted and once all bugs worked out I will post my findings and HOPEFULLY MY ROOTED ROM.ZIP with instructions.
IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED.....TRY TRY TRY and TRY I did and I am 99% there.
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This might be the wrong thread. Did you manage to get around the HBOOT issue with the 2.2 update? If not, then you've just done the same thing I did the day after this release was out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272

Gene Poole said:
This might be the wrong thread. Did you manage to get around the HBOOT issue with the 2.2 update? If not, then you've just done the same thing I did the day after this release was out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272
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You are right this might be the wrong thread. But I managed a work around with the new update 2.2.2 and the HBOOT 1.0X. As soon as I can confirm without a doubt that it works and will be able to repeat the process successfully with my husband's ARIA (unfortunately we love hacking things and tend to buy multiple devices) I will be more than happy to share the results.
Again, my apologies if it's the wrong thread.

econcep said:
You are right this might be the wrong thread. But I managed a work around with the new update 2.2.2 and the HBOOT 1.0X. As soon as I can confirm without a doubt that it works and will be able to repeat the process successfully with my husband's ARIA (unfortunately we love hacking things and tend to buy multiple devices) I will be more than happy to share the results.
Again, my apologies if it's the wrong thread.
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Perhaps I misread (or we're talking past each other). You do have, in fact, HBOOT 1.02.0000 on your Aria, and managed to write to the system partition?

Yes & No. I'm stuck on couple of things. First the will temporary give me root access but then it locks up saying I don't have busybox. I'm rooted but no s-off. I also noticed when I reboot into recovery I go into CWM 2.5.0.1 but other times it boots into CWM 2.5.0.7. When that happens I loose my unknown source in settings>application. Again, if this is the wrong thread, I really am sorry.
I googled alpharev and some others who have worked on rooting. Found some cached pages from Jan when they were testing to root/s-off the Aria. Basing my work on that and couple of other devices that are similar to the Aria.

Help! New Nexus S user

Hi there,
I picked up my Nexus S a couple of days ago and i'm totally loving the device. My only problem is connecting to T-Mobile's 3G network, I can only connect for 4-5 mins before it switches back to Edge, which is terribly slow. I've read that this has been an issue for some people and I tried to remove the sim card, change the APN Settings but nothing seems to help.
I read something about updating to newer radio but I'm not sure how to do that, any help would be appreciated !
All the best,
Gianpy

Ploone said:
Hi there,
I picked up my Nexus S a couple of days ago and i'm totally loving the device. My only problem is connecting to T-Mobile's 3G network, I can only connect for 4-5 mins before it switches back to Edge, which is terribly slow. I've read that this has been an issue for some people and I tried to remove the sim card, change the APN Settings but nothing seems to help.
I read something about updating to newer radio but I'm not sure how to do that, any help would be appreciated !
All the best,
Gianpy
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Go into your settings menu>About Phone and tell us your baseband version please.
I should note that I've not really heard of this happening before and to me it sounds like you're just not in a 3G area.

kenvan19 said:
Go into your settings menu>About Phone and tell us your baseband version please.
I should note that I've not really heard of this happening before and to me it sounds like you're just not in a 3G area.
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You might not have 3g in your area. Other than that it sounds weird
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

I am on the Strip in Las Vegas, NV - I doubt there is no 3G here since there is even 4G here!
Baseband version- I9020XXJK8

You are right now on 2.3.2 Stock without root right?
-So, first step is rooting your phone. You can do it without oem unlock and not losing all your archives. But I did this and I just copied all files again(Yes, it's boring to wait all the time transfering archives but it's better).
- Now you have to flash Clockworkmod (It's the same topic, showing how to do it).
- Then flash through CWM (ClockWorkMod) the update. GRH78 is 2.3.1, GRH78C is 2.3.2, GRI40 is 2.3.3. Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967953
Any douts?
This should solve a lot of issues that you have now.

liquelt said:
You are right now on 2.3.2 Stock without root right?
-So, first step is rooting your phone. You can do it without oem unlock and not losing all your archives. But I did this and I just copied all files again(Yes, it's boring to wait all the time transfering archives but it's better).
- Now you have to flash Clockworkmod (It's the same topic, showing how to do it).
- Then flash through CWM (ClockWorkMod) the update. GRH78 is 2.3.1, GRH78C is 2.3.2, GRI40 is 2.3.3. Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967953
Any douts?
This should solve a lot of issues that you have now.
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I am on 2.3.1 Stock without root, should I still follow the same steps?

Ploone said:
I am on the Strip in Las Vegas, NV - I doubt there is no 3G here since there is even 4G here!
Baseband version- I9020XXJK8
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Well, I just pulled a coverage map of the strip and it seems that there are spots of worse coverage so it all depends on where you are. Nonetheless, I will help you update your radio or even update to 2.3.3 altogether as long as you're willing to root your phone and flash a rom (you can use download and use the update that Google pushes out but a lot of people have problems with it so I think its just easier to root, flash the rom, then just not root again once you have the new ROM). If you want me to help you do this, just say so and tell me if you have a mac or a PC.

kenvan19 said:
Well, I just pulled a coverage map of the strip and it seems that there are spots of worse coverage so it all depends on where you are. Nonetheless, I will help you update your radio or even update to 2.3.3 altogether as long as you're willing to root your phone and flash a rom (you can use download and use the update that Google pushes out but a lot of people have problems with it so I think its just easier to root, flash the rom, then just not root again once you have the new ROM). If you want me to help you do this, just say so and tell me if you have a mac or a PC.
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Sure, I'd love some help doing that, I appreciate your help!
I am on a Mac.

You should follow the same steps but the update file is different!
Here is the link for you to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931865

There are a lot of Custom ROMs, you should choose one and flash it.
I put the wrong link, I didn't known that you had a Mac.
Sorry, here is the right one! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931865
Enjoy this beautiful phone!

liquelt said:
You should follow the same steps but the update file is different!
Here is the link for you to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931865
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****, I'm completely lost..
Kenvan is your method the same as this or something different?

Ploone said:
****, I'm completely lost..
Kenvan is your method the same as this or something different?
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The method he linked only works for builds prior to 2.3.3 which is a category you fall into. That guide is quite nice and works very well but it will not unlock your bootloader, which means your SDcard partition for your files and music and pictures etc won't be wiped. If you intend to stay rooted, I don't suggest using that guide but instead using the one I wrote here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970237
Now before you do either, tell me if you want to unlock your bootloader (if you plan to stay rooted after doing the updated) or want to leave it locked (if you plan to remove root after updating).

kenvan19 said:
The method he linked only works for builds prior to 2.3.3 which is a category you fall into. That guide is quite nice and works very well but it will not unlock your bootloader, which means your SDcard partition for your files and music and pictures etc won't be wiped. If you intend to stay rooted, I don't suggest using that guide but instead using the one I wrote here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970237
Now before you do either, tell me if you want to unlock your bootloader (if you plan to stay rooted after doing the updated) or want to leave it locked (if you plan to remove root after updating).
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Whichever is easier to be honest and requires less steps, you tell me haha. I don't mind either option.

Or you could just wait for the official 2.3.3 OTA if you don't want to root. Might get it quicker if you do a checkin request. Simply dial *#*#checkin#*#*
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Ploone said:
Whichever is easier to be honest and requires less steps, you tell me haha. I don't mind either option.
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lol the difference between the two is literally two command. if you unlock the bootloader you add one command (fastboot oem unlock) and you use the command "fastboot boot" for the locked method where as you use fastboot flash for the unlocked. After that the two are exactly the same so if you want to stay rooted after updating (so you can use apps like AdFree, Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, etc or want to install custom roms) you should unlock your bootloader.
To be completely frank, if you don't mind unlocking the bootloader I've had some people have trouble with the command "fastboot boot" which is why I changed my guide to use "fastboot flash". What I'm saying is I recommend using my guide, which again you can find at the link below. Remember though, before you go through any of the steps copy the contents of your SD card to your computer. Actually that is a step I should really add lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970237
I'm going to go find the link to the 2.3.3 ROM so I can give you that but just take a look at my guide while I'm looking.

kenvan19 said:
lol the difference between the two is literally two command. if you unlock the bootloader you add one command (fastboot oem unlock) and you use the command "fastboot boot" for the locked method where as you use fastboot flash for the unlocked. After that the two are exactly the same so if you want to stay rooted after updating (so you can use apps like AdFree, Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, etc or want to install custom roms) you should unlock your bootloader.
To be completely frank, if you don't mind unlocking the bootloader I've had some people have trouble with the command "fastboot boot" which is why I changed my guide to use "fastboot flash". What I'm saying is I recommend using my guide, which again you can find at the link below. Remember though, before you go through any of the steps copy the contents of your SD card to your computer. Actually that is a step I should really add lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970237
I'm going to go find the link to the 2.3.3 ROM so I can give you that but just take a look at my guide while I'm looking.
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Ok, I'll check out your guide. Thank you so much for all your help! I hope my problem is fixed !

Ploone said:
Ok, I'll check out your guide. Thank you so much for all your help! I hope my problem is fixed !
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No problem man, if you have any questions at all let me know.
Also, here is the link to the full ROM for 2.3.3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967953
Now I'm not 100% sure if this will update your radio but it will give you the newest update. I'm currently trying to check on that so you can get everything done at once (if it doesn't do the radio there is another file you can install right after installing the ROM that will update your radio. That way you'll be 100% up to date)
EDIT: Yes, it does contain the radio, so that will put you 100% on 2.3.3 with the updated radio.

Do you have any questions?

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Do you have any questions?
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All is well and my problem is fixed, thank you very much!

returned replacement phone... PLEASE HELP -- NEED TEMP ROOT UNDER STOCK FROYO NO ADB

OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???

Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did

use the "how to root.sh root your phone".
i used that in the T-Mobile store to root my before i left the store when i bought the device.

Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo?
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The phone I restored to stock Froyo was my old phone... It was rooted already. I just wanted to restore it to a factory condition so I wouldn't have any problems returning my old, and rooted/heavily modded phone to TMO.
So I just took the .img that you can download from this thread LINK
Then you just make sure it is on the root of your sdcard, then boot into hboot by holding the volume down while pressing the power button. It will boot and think it is an "update", but it will just restore it to the stock.
Obviously this cannot be done from 2.3.4 because it realizes it is an old version... If you have a phone with stock 2.3.4 you have to trick it into letting you downgrade from gingerbread to froyo using this thread: LINK
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Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
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That's great! But I told them about the fact I solved my wifi problem.... Besides, I already tried to shake them down for a Sensation... no go.
The Slide version looks great... Better camera and faster.... But for now, I will stick with the 4G regular unless I get another issue....
My solution (in another thread) to my wifi problem requires you select "wifi only" under the wifi calling app. If this becomes really problematic and inconvenient, I will call them back... Will try to get a Sensation again or a 4G Slide then.

syntropic said:
OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Go to youtube type gfree mytouch 4g look for author Mackster248 video I would link but I'm a noob
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.

I think Visionary screws things up pretty badly.... I found this out the hard way.
I think I have done a hard reset (removed battery + factory reset) about 8 times so far.
I have been using a combination of Visionary, followed by a root.sh script from this link. Then I do get root.... but it is tremendously precarious.
I then uninstall Visionary, use ADBwireless as I have root now and proceed to follow the Cyanogen instructions.....
But then... whenever I have to run psneuter, it boots me out of the adb shell and I have to start everything all over again.... I have to do a factory reset to get Visionary to work that one f*cking precious time.
I just tried it again just now (I have been modifying steps and things to get it to work)... And now... every time I do a factory reset and run visionary, I don't get a Superuser Root... I get "UNKNOWN USER ROOT" in the emulator.... I have know idea what that means, but it is not root....
I have been at this for days and losing my mind. I cannot believe I can't root this phone.... especially now in Froyo... Without a god**mn USB CABLE!!!

Jack_R1 said:
Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
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z4 root doesn't work with the MT4G...

Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.

syntropic said:
Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
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no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.

saranhai said:
no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
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Thanks... and for whatever reason... even though I think I rooted my phone successfully, I cannot restore any of my nandroid backups... I get an error in Rom Manager.... and while in recovery, I get an error of "files missing".
Now I cannot even boot the phone. It is stuck at the myTouch Splash.
I am so f*cking tired of doing this... Nothing has worked--
I cannot believe I reset this phone to Froyo in anticipation of sending it back....
I ended up keeping it because it had the better screen and because I thought I had solved my wifi problem...
I am without a phone at all at this point.

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syntropic said:
OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Have you tried gfree?

+1 it might be your only option.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.

mackster248 said:
And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
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I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium

syntropic said:
I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
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Thanks for the link, yes you should write a guide, it will help others in your situation. I didn't even ask, the CSR offered the MTS4G. Glad you finally got it figured out, it can make you crazy LOL

[q] delete this?

Ok people, this is not my first post, although it says it is. I used to be on here and a few other sites as ldawg214. I've done some things but alas I quit for awhile and can't remember my old password (so if any mods can help me there that would be cool.) But the reason for this post is that I'm trying to get a custom rom on my mytouch 4g with 2.3.4 Gingerbread. I know I need to downgrade to froyo using adb but the files fre3vo and misc_version_01 are just blank data files. I don't know if they are supposed to be like that but everything I've searched for on this is at least 3 years old. I've gone ahead and tried adb but it always just tells me the the file or directory doesn't exist. Does anyone know if this method still works?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Starting to feel like this is impossible and I know what I'm doing lol.

luda214 said:
Ok people, this is not my first post, although it says it is. I used to be on here and a few other sites as ldawg214. I've done some things but alas I quit for awhile and can't remember my old password (so if any mods can help me there that would be cool.) But the reason for this post is that I'm trying to get a custom rom on my mytouch 4g with 2.3.4 Gingerbread. I know I need to downgrade to froyo using adb but the files fre3vo and misc_version_01 are just blank data files. I don't know if they are supposed to be like that but everything I've searched for on this is at least 3 years old. I've gone ahead and tried adb but it always just tells me the the file or directory doesn't exist. Does anyone know if this method still works?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Starting to feel like this is impossible and I know what I'm doing lol.
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Haven't rooted a glacier in a while. But I'll try to help you. Here's a link to the rooting process. I've always used gfree. If you need any files let me know and I'll upload them.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_glacier#Rooting_the_HTC_Glacier

Thank you so much but it turns out I was just missing a few steps (as usual) lol. So I am now perm rooted with s=off. I think that's all I have to do and now I can flash a custom rom. That's what I'm on my way to do now. Thank you again.

luda214 said:
Thank you so much but it turns out I was just missing a few steps (as usual) lol. So I am now perm rooted with s=off. I think that's all I have to do and now I can flash a custom rom. That's what I'm on my way to do now. Thank you again.
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Okay, I think this can be deleted. I've got s off and installed sabsa_prime and so far it's working great. If anyone sees this though, after all that root checker basic says that the phone doesn't have root access.........WHAT??? How is that possible?