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Guys,
I'm looking into getting an Android (HTC Desire looks like the best Android machine but oh would love to be able to get hold of the Evo or similar).
A couple of grey areas I need to sort out are:-
1. Rich Text Format read & write.
2. Finance software.
Reference the Finance software, can anyone point me to having a read on what would be considered a suitable application that can allow me to use the finance program similar to how Cash Organizer on Windows Mobile works.
i.e. Have an index of Accounts, Register, Projects, Planner, Budget, Reports.
Accounts would list all the accounts.
Register would list all transactions within a particular account.
Projects ~ as it says.
Planner would list all future transactions so you can see at a glance what is coming out and what account it is going to.
Budget ~ as it says.
Reports ~ as it says.
My Brother who has a Desire tried briefly MyMoney but he told me it's not powerful enough.... however, I'd like to hear more on this from other users.
These two items are at the moment stopping me changing from Windows Mobile to Android.
If anyone can help it would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Beards
Anyone have any ideas??
Hi Beards
Currently I'm using Financisto. It has everything you mentioned except the planner part, which I miss too. But it links your money operations to location and you can see reports based on location. Check it out and tell me what you think. If you'll find a better app please let me know.
Mantas
mantasvarnagiris said:
Hi Beards
Currently I'm using Financisto. It has everything you mentioned except the planner part, which I miss too. But it links your money operations to location and you can see reports based on location. Check it out and tell me what you think. If you'll find a better app please let me know.
Mantas
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Many thanks Mantas for your contribution.
You mention there is no planner with this software. Unfortunately, this is one of the most important factors, as I need to be able to add all my monthly repeated outgoings so that the finance program will look at them on the specific date and automatically add the item to a named account.
At present all my testing has to be carried out on my Brother's Desire as I am still in the deciding factor on whether or not to ditch my Windows Mobile HD2 and move on up to Android.
Have you tried MyMoney or any other application.
I will however ask him to install Financisto and get him to show me what it can and can not achieve.
Thanks again.
Beards.
have you tried firewallet I installed it last night but not played with it yet.
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have you tried firewallet I installed it last night but not played with it yet.
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I'de be interested to hear your comments ~ especially if it does what I am trying to replicate from Cash Organizer.
Does it offer a 'Planner' so you can plan your spending's in advance and see from a Tab what date a transaction would be due to be added?
Beards said:
I'de be interested to hear your comments ~ especially if it does what I am trying to replicate from Cash Organizer.
Does it offer a 'Planner' so you can plan your spending's in advance and see from a Tab what date a transaction would be due to be added?
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I've set mine up to include all my direct debits for the month and they are set to occur every month on the same date, if thats what your after.
There is a 30 day trial of it on the market place, search for Firewallet.
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I've set mine up to include all my direct debits for the month and they are set to occur every month on the same date, if thats what your after.
There is a 30 day trial of it on the market place, search for Firewallet.
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Yes, a direct debit planner is ideal.
I'll get my brother to download and test it out for me.
Thanks.
also check out easymoney. that's what I'm currently using after trying out several other options. I'm probably not as much of a power user as you, but I think easymoney can do what you want.
best of luck, and if you do find something perfect I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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When I switched from WM to Android this was also one of my constraints.
Used to work with SPB Finance for years. It never really updated but did a very good job (planner included).
I have now found a good replacement in ClearCheckbook.com.
Is actually better as they also have a website account which syncs nicely with the Desire.
If by planner you mean repeating transactions then yes it is available.
Also have a good customer service .... quick at replying
Only downside is you need to pay for a subscription ....
unclesomebody said:
also check out easymoney. that's what I'm currently using after trying out several other options. I'm probably not as much of a power user as you, but I think easymoney can do what you want.
best of luck, and if you do find something perfect I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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Sjengie said:
When I switched from WM to Android this was also one of my constraints.
Used to work with SPB Finance for years. It never really updated but did a very good job (planner included).
I have now found a good replacement in ClearCheckbook.com.
Is actually better as they also have a website account which syncs nicely with the Desire.
If by planner you mean repeating transactions then yes it is available.
Also have a good customer service .... quick at replying
Only downside is you need to pay for a subscription ....
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Many thanks for the additional Apps to try.
My Brother is popping round tonight with his Desire in order I can try out a few of these titles.
I'll certainly post back which I found most comfortable in using.
Well, thanks once again Guys for all your input.... It has been most welcome and truly appreciated.
I've 'briefly' tried all the Apps you can install and can see both positives & negatives on all but admit these are based solely on my own personal requirements as one App may well suit one user very well whereas with another user it limits the usefulness.
Financisto ~ I found limiting to my requirements.
I was surprised there is no recurring payments or split transaction to name but two.
It was easy to navigate and in no time I was up and running with several accounts.
Location was different and useful. Definitely see a use for this.
Firewallet ~ I found the Bill Reminder (Planner) but it was limiting in the choices given.
Again I could not see any way to split a transaction and worse I could not find a category list.... Please update me if I got that wrong as again I only managed to test it out briefly.
EasyMoney ~ was by far the most professional App, both in it's design and operation of use.
There is so much you can play with this App and love.
Granted I personally would like more control over say individual category expense lists (ability to see at a glance how much each category has spent over a period of time) but of the three I tried EasyMoney held me captive longer.
With more time it could well be my choice... Next step is to purchase an Android and investigate it further myself.
ClearCheckbook.com ~ being an online accounts manager looks promising purely for the fact I can manage the accounts either on the Laptop or on the Android.
I did not get a chance to try this out; namely due to the fact I first need to create an account with ClearCheckbook and then see exactly what is transferred to the Android device.
It is one which I will investigate after I purchase my Android Phone so again my thanks Sjengie in bringing it to my attention.
Once again thank you all.
Without your input I would not have covered the ground I wish to undertake prior to my Phone purchase.
Cheers for the quick review. I'm after a finance app so I'll give some of these a try.
hi beards et al
I'm very much in the same boat as you & it is great to see I'm not the only one in this dilemma.
I will try easymoney again as I did not find it to be that good when I first looked into this a few months back.
I installed firewallet & got a quick response to a query from the developer re importing data so will try playing a bit more with that. (he advised me to create the accounts I want with a zero initial balance and then import transactions for each account one at a time. will definitely make living year to date transactions easier although I guess I'll have to add in all the categories too).
if you guys could share your methods of migrating your data across into yr new apps & any other tips & tricks that would be great!
also if there are enough of us cdnt we try lobbying a developer to tweak their app to our requirements or even get a WinMo dev to release an Android version of their app?
regards
Ansi
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Thanks for the feedback Beards. Hope you get your Desire soon...
I'm also a SPB finance user on WM and I haven't found anything yet that does nearly such a good job for me on Android, (I've tried all those listed here and more) But another one to try is "Loot" it is free, there is a "pro" bolt on that costs money and adds a few extra features, for me it is one of the closest to SPB finance but still not close enough!
I'm currently still using my Touch Diamond 2 winmo phone for finance tracking (you'd be astounded how long the battery lasts if you leave it permanently in flight mode btw!)
P.
popkid said:
I'm also a SPB finance user on WM and I haven't found anything yet that does nearly such a good job for me on Android, (I've tried all those listed here and more) But another one to try is "Loot" it is free, there is a "pro" bolt on that costs money and adds a few extra features, for me it is one of the closest to SPB finance but still not close enough!
I'm currently still using my Touch Diamond 2 winmo phone for finance tracking (you'd be astounded how long the battery lasts if you leave it permanently in flight mode btw!)
P.
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Thanks... I'll mention this one to my Brother.
I know what you mean in not finding that perfect title.
Maybe it's because we are so much used to the WM application that we can only see what that particular title can give us.
I've loved using Cash Organizer for many years and I know no matter which Android application I find and use it's not going to give me the same as CO.
Having said this, I am sure there will be areas in Android where I did not realize I needed which I'll find and love.
As such I'm going to go in openly and receptive, to look only for the good in the program.
If I can't find the good then there's no point in afterward searching for the bad....
Now I need to focus my attention on getting my Android phone.
It's going to be difficult as my HD2 has for the past 6 months (or so) given me great service and I've been happy with the WM software.
But as we know, it's no point staying with a 'safe' product, you have to look outside the box to better your aims.
HTC Desire or Samsung i9000 Galaxy S
Don't you just love technology.
I don't know anything about this software, I just read a blog post about it...
http://www.mint.com/
Apparently its something from the iPhone that has just been brought to Android.
EDIT: Hmm...just been reading through and everything seems to be in dollars and how it "connects securely to nearly all US banking financial institutions". Could just be an American app.
EDIT 2: Just found this...
Does Mint.com support international banks?
Not yet. Currently Mint only supports US-based financial institutions. We hope to support financial institutions based outside of the US in the future.
Shame, looks pretty good.
Raul Duke said:
I don't know anything about this software, I just read a blog post about it...
http://www.mint.com/
Apparently its something from the iPhone that has just been brought to Android.
EDIT: Hmm...just been reading through and everything seems to be in dollars and how it "connects securely to nearly all US banking financial institutions". Could just be an American app.
EDIT 2: Just found this...
Does Mint.com support international banks?
Not yet. Currently Mint only supports US-based financial institutions. We hope to support financial institutions based outside of the US in the future.
Shame, looks pretty good.
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Many thanks for the info and edited updates.... appreciated.
Well I took the plunge and 'Pre-Ordered' my first Android.
After a lot of deliberation I altered my choice in getting the Desire to now opt for the soon to be released Samsung GT-i9000 Galaxy S.
The problem is I will have to wait until the end of the month when shipment is expected.
So, to all who participated I won't be able to make any follow-up on the software titles until after this date, sorry.
Beards
Who is switching over to Windows Phone 7 if Gingerbread is not what it is hyped up to be. (No new UI, broken features, market not fixed up... ect.)
If Google doesn't fix it up. I prefer a polished, fully working OS compared to a bunch of ROM's that each have their own features, and no one ROM has all the features in one.
Windows Phone 7 will integrate with Windows 7-8, Xbox 360, home servers, and will have Xbox Live marketplace support. I find all this integration a huge feature that will probably bring me over. Microsoft is also said to be creating their own cloud for WP7, Skydrive, and if all Microsoft system's have Xbox Marketplace, why wouldn't Windows 7?
I love tight integration and the ability to share with ease. I find Android takes a while at moment to do simple things, like search the market for that one great app, or have a music player that is feature packed and has the ability to share with desktop speakers.
I am waiting for gingerbread, then i will make my decision...unless it has a MAJOR UI rework, some serious gaming capabilities, new media player ecc. I'm switching to WP7...
very sad to see snapdragon wp7 devices running cool ui and games with advanced graphics while our nexus can't because of generic drivers and fragmentation of hardware platforms in the Android panorama...it's like consoles vs pc's
consoles: you do what sony or nintendo or MS decide you can do, but code is fully optimized and developed for that platform, meaning better performance, no waste of power
pc: you can do what you want but code isn't optimized because of the infinite hardware configurations, so you need more power to run same games.
Completely agree with you. I am against Apple's policy for the iPhone, but WP7 is in between Android and iOS. It hits the sweet spot IMO.
If you want to talk about PC OS's though, I have OSX running on my Windows Gaming PC, so it is technically more open then to just their systems. That why I like it too.
Looks nice, but no copy and paste? Until they get that sorted, I'm ooooot!
Glad you like XBox integration x986123 and are switching to a better OS for your needs.
I will stay with Android and Google's developer baby
In my opinion Google has shown that are willing to give their users more value with free toy's that really help out in everyday life (Google Voice, Google Maps Navigation, Tethering etc) that other giants like Microsoft and Apple just don't seem to care about. This lets me know that Google really cares about bringing value to their customers rather than just selling them a phone and wanting to make more money and so I can trust Google to continue to do this in the future much more than I could with Microsoft.
Also it seems from your 1st post that your main argument for switching is xBox integration wheareas I could care less about that... I don't have an xBox
Yup! I certainly giving it some good thought. I'm also going to decide after the Ginge, but i'm not going to hold my breath.
Also i'm very unhappy about google's attitude towards privacy and data
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Glad you like XBox integration x986123 and are switching to a better OS for your needs.
I will stay with Android and Google's developer baby
In my opinion Google has shown that are willing to give their users more value with free toy's that really help out in everyday life (Google Voice, Google Maps Navigation, Tethering etc) that other giants like Microsoft and Apple just don't seem to care about. This lets me know that Google really cares about bringing value to their customers rather than just selling them a phone and wanting to make more money and so I can trust Google to continue to do this in the future much more than I could with Microsoft.
Also, it seems from your 1st post that your main argument for switching is xBox integration wheareas I could care less about that... I don't have an xBox
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Lol. You dont need an xbox for xbl integration, clueless.
I doubt ginger will fix androids peoblems. It will just further fragment android and lots of people will be surprised when they find out the carrier/manufacturer will not update their phone. Happy hacking?
Btw google voice is close to useless after you get over the "new toy euphoria."
Everyome knows Bing has had voice guided navigation forever (out of beta before Google's), so I don't know why you're mentioning that...
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Why would you bother using XBL integration if you didnt have an xbox? Just curious?
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Yup! I certainly giving it some good thought. I'm also going to decide after the Ginge, but i'm not going to hold my breath.
Also i'm very unhappy about google's attitude towards privacy and data
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Yep, and the market is terrible. Allowing developers to put permissions on their apps that make no sense whatsoever, and change them in updates.
I want a phonr I don't have to load up with apps, and an os that doesn't let everything run as a service. I'm about to factory reset again because my phone cannot sit idle for 6 hours without dying from a full charge, and I've pretty much uninstalled all my apps, lol.
Not even funny. Worst mobile platform I've used - ever.
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Why would you bother using XBL integration if you didnt have an xbox? Just curious?
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Why bother asking rhetorical questions?
Google is your friend. We aren't here to hold your hand, sweetie.
Why get an iOS device for gamecenter if you don't have a mac? Etc. It's just a dumb, rhetorical question, especially coming from an android user, who can do nothing but wish this platform had decent games, neverming anything comparable to gamecenter or xbl.
WP7 games go not require an xbox. Xbox integration is perk, not a requirement. Ciao!
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Maybe the second generation, but really the wp7 phones that are coming are unfinished. It is missing so many features.
I believe they shouldn't release wp7 yet, but I can see the want to make money while they finish developing. But releasing it unfinished will prob put a bad taste in peoples mouth's and turn out bad for what could be a decent platform
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N8ter said:
Lol. You dont need an xbox for xbl integration, clueless.
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Check your attitude at the door when you come to Xda... it aint welcome here, got it?
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Btw google voice is close to useless after you get over the "new toy euphoria."
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Yeah your right... free text messaging, voicemail transciption, and having an all in one number for all of your phones in case of an emergency sounds like useless features.
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Everyome knows Bing has had voice guided navigation forever (out of beta before Google's), so I don't know why you're mentioning that...
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I'm mentioning it because for anyone who has actually used Bing's voice guided navigation like I have, it really pales in comparison to Google's more polished product:
- Doesn't work when screen is turned off to save battery / less heat like Google Maps Navigation does
- Doesn't turn off music when saying directions so you can't hear the directions over your music like Google Maps Navigation does
- Doesn't give you alternative route options to avoid traffic like Google Maps Navigation does
- Doesn't give a 3d point of view like Google Maps Navigation does
Well,
should I switch from my beloved Nexus that provides me with great features neither mom's iPhone nor my former WM6.5 phone had for an OS made by Microsoft?
That would ruin my statistics (no Win PC in my household)
So - of course I will never switch to Windows Phone whatever
(I do not like the "homescreen" of win phone 7 either and as mentioned above - no clipboard? wtf? who would release something like that?)
After getting used to the ability to fully customize our phones, I don't think I could make the switch to wp7. Just the lack of homescreen customization is enough for me to reconsider. Unless they allow for different launchers, it will not do.
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Looks nice, but no copy and paste? Until they get that sorted, I'm ooooot!
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You mean the missing copy and paste in Android? It is a shame that Google has been unable to fix that even in 2.2.1.
How anybody can create a mobile OS in 2010 without copy and paste is beyond me, especially if they just have to copy Apple's copy and paste which works really well.
x986123 said:
Who is switching over to Windows Phone 7 if Gingerbread is not what it is hyped up to be. (No new UI, broken features, market not fixed up... ect.)
I know I probably am, if Google doesn't fix it up. I prefer a polished, fully working OS compared to a bunch of ROM's that each have their own features, and no one ROM has all the features in one.
Windows Phone 7 will integrate with Windows 7-8, Xbox 360, home servers, and will have Xbox Live marketplace support. I find all this integration a huge feature that will probably bring me over. Microsoft is also said to be creating their own cloud for WP7, Skydrive, and if all Microsoft system's have Xbox Marketplace, why wouldn't Windows 7?
I love tight integration and the ability to share with ease. I find Android takes a while at moment to do simple things, like search the market for that one great app, or have a music player that is feature packed and has the ability to share with desktop speakers.
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Could not have said it better myself. Android has hundreds of features but only half really work well. Until that gets fixed, less is more ... and I rather have 50 features that work well and work all the time than hundreds that don't work at all.
man this dude is full of hate toward android and mind you hes prolly still running touchwiz on that vibrant
I hope that we get a w7 port for our n1's so we can all try it out at least or even better, dual boot! I doubt I will switch though, new market to develop and populate and prolly a smaller pool of dev's for customization as well...
Lets hope Google gets their act together and makes Gingerbread a worthy competitor for Microsoft. These broken features and (5 year old) designers need to step up their game.
I left Apple for Android because it was more open, but now having used Android for almost a year, I find it's so open that it is unoptimized for super devices and low end. We have a bare looking OS with almost no animations and unused features. WP7 is the midway point, it is closed, but has a greater phone choice than Apple, while Microsoft is know for being slightly more open than Apple.
No way
I would never leave Android for an unproven OS, plus the tiles thing is so unproductive.
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Tethering not allowed, copy&paste doesn't work, 7 apps in store, developers not happy w/closed os, not backword capatible, 1st generation, ...Good Luck!
One word - Never
We (DFT team) at the end able to run WP7 on our LEOs, most of stuffs are really working: GSM,GPRS,Camera,GSensor,USB,SD,BT,WLAN,etc.
Is it coming soon?
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But new "Windows Phone Genuine" doesn't allow to use any Windows Live services :-( So it's mostly "Demo" of WP7. No bypass ways are known
Oh, well, hrmmm...heh
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As well as MAGLDR development (used by Android & WP7) a bit delayed, because some problems takes more time.
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it will be released soon, but don't expect anything from it - without Live services it's not really usable :-(
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Well, hrmm...heh.
Still, the nay-sayers were adamant that it could not be done. Well done Cotulla and team!
Yuuupiiiii!
HD2 rocks!
And Cotulla is Alive!
That he is. I got a text on my phone saying he had a new tweet, and I was like 'whoa, hes alive!'
He is alive lol i was suprised myself...Its a shame that windows live wont be available. Freaken microsoft!:/
Someone who knows, can explain to us, why Windows Live is so important....because if we can install apps by hand and if we can have apps like gmail, facebook, twitter notifications whats the deal?
for sure Windows Live will be something ungry for our data plane, and users usual will note use that, closing the syncro auto.
its a good oportunitty to M$ give us something, someway to acess a acount.
in the final conclusion, if WP7s port will be anoyning, we have the great Android SO to use....loool
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We (DFT team) at the end able to run WP7 on our LEOs, most of stuffs are really working: GSM,GPRS,Camera,GSensor,USB,SD,BT,WLAN,etc.
Is it coming soon?
EDIT:
But new "Windows Phone Genuine" doesn't allow to use any Windows Live services :-( So it's mostly "Demo" of WP7. No bypass ways are known
Oh, well, hrmmm...heh
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As well as MAGLDR development (used by Android & WP7) a bit delayed, because some problems takes more time.
1 minute ago via web
it will be released soon, but don't expect anything from it - without Live services it's not really usable :-(
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Well, hrmm...heh.
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cotula the man .... I knew this is going to happen .. Lets wait for some kind of fix for windows live ... Impossible is nothing
It wont be long until someone cracks the authentication system like they crack Window7 on our PC's.
Just curious, is the authentications (PVK) keys encrypted into the hardware?
Thanks Cotulla & DFTeam! You guys are Masters! Cheers!
Cotulla & DFTeam Rocks!
Now it is very clear that HD2 is capable to run WP7 but it is MS and HTC who want us to buy HD7 or whatever **** off. I am sure we will get rid of WGP sooner or later.
Good to see androind nand with the latest MAGLDR
iDev
Cotulla & DFTeam - Thanks
Thanks Cotulla & DFTeam for the hard work, for sure will buy u a beer soon ...
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Thanks Cotulla & DFTeam! You guys are Masters! Cheers!
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Thank you to all developers for the hd2 and Shu your a legend for your roms, cruzer series is probably the fastest windows rom I have ever used.
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Thank you to all developers for the hd2 and Shu your a legend for your roms, cruzer series is probably the fastest windows rom I have ever used.
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Thanks samsunguy! I'm glad you liked the rom, i deeply appreciate your compliment. though its out-dated already ... soon we will have wp7!
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it will be released soon, but don't expect anything from it - without Live services it's not really usable :-(
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I wonder how soon it will be!
Big Thanks to Cotulla and DFT team
Big thanks to Cotulla and the DFT team for your hard work with the magldr and the WP7 port to our HD2
Can´t wait to the release of it!
Br!
Giganten79
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It wont be long until someone cracks the authentication system like they crack Window7 on our PC's.
Just curious, is the authentications (PVK) keys encrypted into the hardware?
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As I understand it, each piece of hardware receives a unique key. Presumably this key will be banned by MS as soon as a duplicate is detected - very much unlike W7 where OEMs and other licenses come into play.
And with the checks being integrated with all of MS' services, it probably won't be too easy to emulate/return dummy data to allow operation.
Great work by the guys as usual, but without Live services I will probably just buy a WP7 phone. Keeping my HD2 for Android though
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As I understand it, each piece of hardware receives a unique key. Presumably this key will be banned by MS as soon as a duplicate is detected - very much unlike W7 where OEMs and other licenses come into play.
And with the checks being integrated with all of MS' services, it probably won't be too easy to emulate/return dummy data to allow operation.
Great work by the guys as usual, but without Live services I will probably just buy a WP7 phone. Keeping my HD2 for Android though
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Thing is though that this must be one of the very few phones in this position. From MS point of view the alternative is that people use Android as it is clear the move is away from 6.5. If I was in MS shoes I would turn a blind eye as their marketplace and future as a phone OS relies on market recognition and popularity. Can't believe they are charging much for a license as the competition is already more accepted and free.
Does anybody know which services are dependent on Live?
I guess at least XBL integration is there. What about marketplace, Zune, Netflix?
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Thing is though that this must be one of the very few phones in this position. From MS point of view the alternative is that people use Android as it is clear the move is away from 6.5. If I was in MS shoes I would turn a blind eye as their marketplace and future as a phone OS relies on market recognition and popularity. Can't believe they are charging much for a license as the competition is already more accepted and free.
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Maybe. Or maybe they're hoping their OS is strong enough to hold it's own against Android. So if they ban Live services for HD2, some people will buy a HD7, some people will stick with Android. If they allow Live services, almost zero HD2 owners would switch - why would they? High-spec phone with the latest OS.
It's a lose-lose situation for us really.
Does anybody know which services are dependent on Live?
I guess at least XBL integration is there. What about marketplace, Zune, Netflix?
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Pretty much everything. XBL, Zune (You can listen, but you can't purchase), Marketplace, Contacts sync/backup. And we can't even sideload apps without a developer-registered phone (which again I doubt this port would allow). So it's pretty much the HD2 with E-Mail and Bing Maps
encryption
what about sd card encryption ....is it fixed or what?any news
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Maybe. Or maybe they're hoping their OS is strong enough to hold it's own against Android. So if they ban Live services for HD2, some people will buy a HD7, some people will stick with Android. If they allow Live services, almost zero HD2 owners would switch - why would they? High-spec phone with the latest OS.
It's a lose-lose situation for us really.
Pretty much everything. XBL, Zune (You can listen, but you can't purchase), Marketplace, Contacts sync/backup. And we can't even sideload apps without a developer-registered phone (which again I doubt this port would allow). So it's pretty much the HD2 with E-Mail and Bing Maps
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That's too bad. I would like to switch from my old Zune to HD2 (basically a Zune HD now), but if there is no marketplace, it's basically a very bad deal.
The wife got 2 Free Kin TWOm's from verizon today I didnt even know she had placed an order for them. We both had upgrades available & she wanted a Solid Feature phone without having to spend money on a data plan.
Looking at the phone I really like it. Great Camera, Video & I really enjoy the Zune built it. I do have a couple of cons about the phone which is there are no hacks for it, Cant expand the memory & doesnt play games but for now I can look past that.
I cant share photo's at all till i reach 8 posts both phones have switchable OS's
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The wife got 2 Free Kin TWOm's from verizon today I didnt even know she had placed an order for them. We both had upgrades available & she wanted a Solid Feature phone without having to spend money on a data plan.
Looking at the phone I really like it. Great Camera, Video & I really enjoy the Zune built it. I do have a couple of cons about the phone which is there are no hacks for it, Cant expand the memory & doesnt play games but for now I can look past that.
I cant share photo's at all till i reach 8 posts both phones have switchable OS's
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Why does everyone complain about no expandable memory? What the hell does the average person need more than 8 gigs for? Alas you can play javascript games view the thread in kin two software development.
I have alot of music that I wanted to put on the phone.
Congrats on your new Kin!
What did you mean when you said they have switchable OS's?
i meant both are switchable between the TWO kin OS's. Original & the M version. Not switchable as in a different OS installed. I wish there was a way but at the moment there isnt.
I really do love the phone but the lack of being able to install a second OS & play games really hurts this for me.
4LC4PON3 said:
I really do love the phone but the lack of being able to install a second OS & play games really hurts this for me.
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Well, how many feature phones do you know that can install a second OS? Much less have the power to run any other OS like WP7 or Android? There's only one other I know of and that's the HTC feature phone from AT&T. As for music, an average song is only 3-5 MB. 8GB of storage gives you.. lets see about 2,000 songs. That's quite a lot of music for one person to listen to.
well the good thing is, is that the phone does support AAC format so that does help cut down the MB of the song.
File Formats Supported, Audio: Windows Media Audio (.wma), MP3 (.mp3), Advanced audio coding (AAC) files such as .mp4, .m4a, .m4b, and .movfiles.
Hello all, just joined today as I ordered a KIN TWOm yesterday. It might be here on Friday. I like many of you have wanted a feature/smartphone but did not want to shell out the $$ for a data plan. I am almost always near a wifi and that will be fine for me.
Regards
Sean
I actually sold both Kins & me and the wife moved to Smartphones with data plans. I hope you enjoy the phone I just couldnt find what I was looking for with the Kin TWOm
4LC4PON3 said:
I actually sold both Kins & me and the wife moved to Smartphones with data plans. I hope you enjoy the phone I just couldnt find what I was looking for with the Kin TWOm
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I would do it also, if i get paid for it (no one locally would buy it, rofl). Then buying a chinese android to code code code for it .
Windows phone 8.1 developer preview is released and anyone can install the developer copy.
http://www.negablog.com/2014/04/windows-phone-81-developer-preview.html
... this needed its own thread... why, exactly? I mean, has there been a single thread on this part of the forum today that *wasn't* about 8.1?
ok
So this might be the stupidest question you've ever heard.
But is there any way to install wp8.1 on android hardware?
So is there anyway of installing it on my Xperia Z
Just had to ask this because in a big big fan of wp.
Your right, it was ? but even more interesting is its not the first time I've heard it, search an you'll find them too ?
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As of now Microsoft has made it possible to run wp8.1 on same hardware so is there a way to install this developer preview on my device?
Or will there ever be a way.?
xdockster said:
As of now Microsoft has made it possible to run wp8.1 on same hardware so is there a way to install this developer preview on my device?
Or will there ever be a way.?
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If you are such a huge fan of windows phone why don't you buy one, like the rest of us?
Windows phone 8.1 is awesome. I am using it :laugh::laugh:
mcosmin222 said:
If you are such a huge fan of windows phone why don't you buy one, like the rest of us?
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Hey man,i would love to... But unfortunately i used all my funds on xperia......
So if you find a way to install it on xperia please tell me.
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I just converted to Windows Phone 8. I'm rocking a T-Mobile Nokia Lumina 925. I have experience using both Android and iOS. For some reason the simplicity of WP8 has made me "content" with using it.
A few things I just wanted to note. Perhaps someone here can answer the questions if he or she has it.
1. SMS Transfers (While I was able to successfully move my SMS messages using the Nokia Transfer App on my Nexus 5, iOS is a different Story. When I run it against iOS is recognizes the texts but says there is 0, when there a lot more then that.
2. USB Streaming in the car. (I have a USB port in my 2010 Chevy Cruze. While I was able to stream anything from Pandora to Tune IN off my iPhone, the Nexus 5 couldn't do this. I had to resort to using the AUX port, but the sound quality was lousy. I wanted to know if there was an app or something that may allow me to use my USB port on my WP8 phone
3. YouTube. (I had no clue why Google has been not friendly in allowing a native YouTube app on WP8. I do find alternatives in Windows Marketplace, but I would like a suggestion of one that is the best one to use)
4. Apple TV (Now I know folks will probably laugh their ass off, but is there an app that would let me stream content to it. If not is there a device I can purchase that can?)
5. WP8 Info (Unfortunately unlike Android, there isn't much of anything on XDA that talks about WP8. Are their known websites {don't freaking tell me to google it} that has more info on the OS.
6. Google Now (again another laugh your ass moment, but I really liked those darn cards. The one in particular was giving me a travel time from my home to work and vise versa. Is there an app that can do that in the WP8 Store?)
7.Battery Life (I'm amazed at the battery life of this thing. It's lasted longer then iOS and Android but I miss not being able to see how much percent I have left. Again the WP8 store had a dime of dozen apps for this, but i'm looking for a good recommendation on one that I can use.)
8. OWA. (There was an app I was using with the Nexus 5 called 'FASTOWA'. It let me logon to my corp Exchange account using OWA where I can quickly look at messages. The company doesn't allow ActiveSync so this work around was pretty much what I used. Is their an app alternative for this on WP8)
Again Thanks in Advance for posting some answers. I know there will be some smirk comments about this, but those who do happen to come upon this thread and give me real answers, I'll really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Angel
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1.- No idea about SMS transfers. Maybe iOS has its own storage system for storing sms.
2.- What do you mean by USB Streaming? Maybe you're confused, as the iPhone dock also has an analog line-out and can stream audio out of it. In Windows Phone, as well as in Android, you don't have that dock port as it's an Apple proprietary port. You're stuck with line out, which is not bad at all if you have a good cable and set it correctly.
3.- Currently, the best YouTube app for Windows Phone is MetroTube (which costs US$ 0.99). The other good app is YouTube HD (which is free). Both of them gives you great functionality and many options.
4.- Apple TV uses their own proprietary streaming system called AirPlay, while Nokia and every other phone manufacturer uses DLNA (which is a standard by the way). If you want your Apple TV to stream content from your phone (whether it's Windows Phone, Android, Blackberry, whatever), you need to download an app to your Apple TV device to work as a DLNA device. Once you've done that, you can easily stream content from your Nokia phone using Nokia Play To. (which uses DLNA)
5.- WPCentral is a good site with info. XDA forums are good as well.
6.- No idea as I have never used Google now myself. Sorry.
7.- You can use This or This app to see the phone battery percentage. Windows Phone 8.1 will show percentage on the notifications bar.
8.- There should be no problem at all configuring your enterprise account as "Exchange server" on the accounts settings.
Hope this post was helpful.
Any time anybody requests "{don't freaking tell me to google it}" I assume they're an <REDACTED> who thinks their time is more valuable that that of the forum members who they expect to answer their easily-looked-up facts for them, and also so unintelligent that they think they'll save time writing a post rather than just looking it up themselves. These are behaviors I actively dis-incentivize on the forum, for example by not answering even if I know the answer, in the hopes that you or somebody else reading this post in the future will learn.
By the way, the #1 rule of this forum is "Search before posting".
Now, if you meant to say "I looked for a good site but there are so many; which one do you all prefer?", or maybe "I searched but all I got were support and specifications sites, and I want discussion and announcements" or something else of that variety, you should have said that. Give people an opportunity to demonstrate their knowledge or Google-fu *without* sounding like an entitled <REDACTED> who can't be bothered to forum rules, and many of them will do so.
Oh, and it's "Lumia". I have no idea why people keep adding an extra 'n' to the name. It's a slightly weird letter combo in English, but not *that* weird, and it just looks wrong written with six letters instead of five so you don't even have the excuse that it "looks about right; I don't remember the real spelling".
The individual who replied before hand, GDTD, is possible one of the few remaining developers that try and support the platform out in the open for no other benefit then to help and contribute to the community. Given the amount of inane questions that are asked on here through no other reason then laziness, much of which is directed at GDTD, its not hard to see why devs an long term contributors get a little peeved when asked questions that can easily be found out, the internet is full of just about anything you can think of, google even helps you find most of it, but xda is primary source of that information, not a regurgitator of it
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cybermiguel said:
1.- No idea about SMS transfers. Maybe iOS has its own storage system for storing sms.
2.- What do you mean by USB Streaming? Maybe you're confused, as the iPhone dock also has an analog line-out and can stream audio out of it. In Windows Phone, as well as in Android, you don't have that dock port as it's an Apple proprietary port. You're stuck with line out, which is not bad at all if you have a good cable and set it correctly.
3.- Currently, the best YouTube app for Windows Phone is MetroTube (which costs US$ 0.99). The other good app is YouTube HD (which is free). Both of them gives you great functionality and many options.
4.- Apple TV uses their own proprietary streaming system called AirPlay, while Nokia and every other phone manufacturer uses DLNA (which is a standard by the way). If you want your Apple TV to stream content from your phone (whether it's Windows Phone, Android, Blackberry, whatever), you need to download an app to your Apple TV device to work as a DLNA device. Once you've done that, you can easily stream content from your Nokia phone using Nokia Play To. (which uses DLNA)
5.- WPCentral is a good site with info. XDA forums are good as well.
6.- No idea as I have never used Google now myself. Sorry.
7.- You can use This or This app to see the phone battery percentage. Windows Phone 8.1 will show percentage on the notifications bar.
8.- There should be no problem at all configuring your enterprise account as "Exchange server" on the accounts settings.
Hope this post was helpful.
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Cortana can give you the same thing as Google now. I like Cortana a lot better.
One site you can go to for more info on Windows Phone , is Windows Phone Central. http://www.wpcentral.com/
Hope I'm not in trouble for giving a link.
Jilxz said:
Cortana can give you the same thing as Google now. I like Cortana a lot better.
One site you can go to for more info on Windows Phone , is Windows Phone Central. http://www.wpcentral.com/
Hope I'm not in trouble for giving a link.
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Why would breaking Forum rule number 11 get you in to trouble?
As a general rule of thumb, if another site has information that is relevant to your post then post that information HERE then supply a link to the person who deserves credit.
Telling people to just go somewhere else to contribute is not good practice for XDA to continue to thrive.
I'm really sorry . I never meant to break a rule. he was asking if there was somewhere he could get more info on Windows Phone and I gave him the link to where there is nothing but info on Windows Phone. I was trying to be helful and meant nothing against this great forum.
Thanks so much for reminding me of the rule as I confess I never read that rule.
"don't freaking tell me to google it" is disrespectful on the face of it, in addition to bordering on an outright violation of the forum rules. We are *not* here to be your personal interface to publicly available information. You blew "Respect me and I'll respect you" with your very first post [EDIT: in this thread]; I don't know why you expected to be respected after insulting everybody who reads the forum with that (confrontational!) bit of childish petulance.
FYI, I'm about 75% sure I could get you banned for immature piece of ASCII "art" - the mods *might* just edit it out with a pointed message to you instead - but I haven't bothered reporting you *yet* simply because my skin is thick enough to put up with some random person on the Internet who has an entitlement complex; I see them every day. You just happened to win the lottery on which one I responded to on that particular day. You seem to be an otherwise decent person, aside from a thin skin and the aforementioned childishness. "Making fun of" indeed! Guess what: I made fun of President GW Bush for his absurd mispronunciations on national TV. Act the fool where people can see you and they'll treat you like one. But pointing out that you misspelled a 5-letter word deserved a "lol oops" response, at most. Grow up, kid.
windows phone 8.1 update 1 is online on Preview for developers !!!
build bumps to "14147"
Succesfully installed on my Lumia 1520, but many people reports error with installing. Error 8018830f, MS is to try find solution.
I received only 8.10.12400.899 today HTC 8s
441Excelsior said:
I received only 8.10.12400.899 today HTC 8s
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Because HTC needs some drivers from HTC for GDR1, so GDR1 is not for 8X and 8S now. U must wait...
Solved error 8018830F
Check for update 8.10.14147.180