Can't do it... - Fascinate General

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Well I lied...
I brought home a loaner X to check dbm readings against my facinate. The X is -15 to -20dbm better everywhere in my house which has the new 2nd generation verizon network extender. I think I am going with the X until April when my upgrade is due. My advice to anyone trying to decide between the 2 is, if you live and work where you have a strong verizon signal the facinate is great. If you have less than average signal (like I do) get the X. The voice and speaker quality is also better on the X.
Good luck
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To make a long story short. I can trade my facinate in for another Incredible or a Droid X due to reception issues. If the Inc had a 4" display I might consider it but it doesn't and I can't wait until the Inc HD is out (My verizon store won't let me wait that long). After messing with my friends X, the picture or screen seems very "washed out" not near as vibrant as the facinate. I'm sticking it out and banking on Samsung to step up and support this phone more than they have done in the past on my previous Samsung phones...
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Might be changing service providers/phone

so I've been using the G1 since the first month it was out, however, the family I'm on and the service in my area sucks really bad. I get 1-2 bars and service goes in and out.
I'm thinking about going to Verizon's plan, since my gf uses the Droid and she has excellent reception. Does anyone know of an upcoming Android phone for Verizon that's comparable to G1 (same style keyboard etc) that I might be happy with?
Obviously there is the droid, droid incredible and upcoming droid x but if you want a physical keyboard then there is the Motorola Devour.
Or the Droid 2, i think it's still slated for late July release.

(New) 2nd Gen Verizon Network Extender

I currently have the 1st generation network extender in my home and to be honest, it pretty much sucks. After 6-7 customer support calls, tweaking the extender it just doesn't work well in"my home". Other people have reported they have good luck with theirs but not me... I stopped by my (great) local verizon store on a texting issue and commented on the issue. Long story short, they are upgrading me to the new extender that was just released for $0. This is the same store that swapped me out of my incredible for my facinate. I will pick it up wednesday and report back. The new one has nearly double the coverage (7500 sf) and supports data too. The specs look good and I am hoping it works like it should...
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I'm hoping to move up from the 1st gen to the 2nd gen network extender soon. I tried to get a discount by trading in my old one, but no one I talked to at VZW seemed to want to go for that deal. However, I have recently started having issues with my network extender not wanting to work all the time, so maybe it's time to start calling in and complaining to try and get an upgrade.
Mine somewhat acted the same way. Make calls so they can log the trouble shouting issues in their system then, hit another store or more until you find someone that will help you. It can be done!
From what I have been told... The swap can only be done from the stores as far as an upgrade and not from customer service over the phone. I learned this having my incredible swapped out for my facinate and now the extender! It helps not being confrontational and having a chip on your shoulder.
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My findings after one full day of use...
The 2nd gen is better. Maybe 15-20% if that much. Instead of having no signal 55-65% of the time I am at 25-35% no signal. Battery life has improved too. Call quality improved the most along with data. To better improve performance I am having my internet provider come out and move my D-Link wireless N modem from my office to my living room so the extender is more centrally located.
I have the worst inference in my house than anyone I know. I swear its built on an old indian burial ground or something. Your results could be allot better than mine...
I do want to add my incredible lost signal much less than my facinate. Fact is, the facinate does not have as good of a signal for what ever reason. I still like my facinate though...
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Verizon upgrade

I have Verizon and will be eligible for an upgrade this time next month. I have the incredible right now but am wondering what I should upgrade to. Are there supposed to be any phones coming with in the next month that will be worth upgrading to? Let me know what you think. Thanks
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I wouldn't upgrade to anything that is getting the VZ8 upgrade...Just sayin
Verizon is supposed to, some time this month, get a successor to the Incredible 2, the Incredible 4G or HTC Fireball. Think their version of the One X that would be your best bet
I'm in the same boat as you. There's a few choices coming up, with my opinions alongside of each.
-Moto Droid Fighter - Specs aren't released, but looks like a well built phone. I've never been into moto blur, but I am considering it.
- Samsung Galaxy Journal - Verizon's version of the note. Old hardware in my opinion. The note has been out for a long time internationally.
- HTC Fireball - Rumored to just be a budget relative of the Incredible series. Budget phone is a no go for me. I need top of the line specs. I doubt this will be a One series device.
I'm hoping with all that I have that Verizon decides to go with the Galaxy SIII. Pretty promising to have some great specs like the GSII when it came out. I can't tell you how pissed I'd be if Verizon missed out again... So if I were you, I'd definitely wait a little bit.
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I think that you definitely shouldn't rule out the Droid Razr Maxx. It has awesome battery life, is pretty thin and is getting ICS soon, if you care. But you could say that I have a biased opinion.
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I'm up too in early May at Verizon, but willing to wait another month or so until the right phone comes out. I need a phone that's at least 5" and has a stylus. That leaves me with zero choices and just one rumor. Yeah my life sucks.
Just don't get a Razr and they do this to you:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel if you use 12GB.
I have the Galaxy Nexus and absolutely love this phone. My first android phone was the nexus one and now this phone. Have found vanilla android the only way to go after playing with friends HTC phones. But then again I love installing custom rom's, maybe that's not as important to you.
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Any new opinions now that more info has been released about the incredible 4g?
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Verizon android phones,new htc?

So currently I have a tbolt and its on its last leg. Everytime its time for me yo upgradr it seems like its always that transition period where its a while before any great new devices. Well I need an android device now. Not to thrilled about going with a moto device even if the maxx has great battery life. Nexus just doesnt seem well built. The lg spectrum looks good spec wise. Wondering if I root it to get rid of that terrible lg sw will be ok or should I just get an improved tbolt and go with the rezound. I really want an htc one x but mo timeframe vzw will be getting. Opinions on the spectrum? Rezound? Or anyone heard when they will be getting some new top of the line devices
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You cannot go wrong with the Rezound.
Best signal of any phone I've ever used.
Development is getting going quicker now since we now have S-OFF.
It's a really underrated phone as it got lost in the Nexus/Razr Maxx craze and now the newer phones.
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You cannot go wrong with the Rezound.
Best signal of any phone I've ever used.
Development is getting going quicker now since we now have S-OFF.
It's a really underrated phone as it got lost in the Nexus/Razr Maxx craze and now the newer phones.
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Totally agree.. rezound is.like a lost treasure. It's easily the best phone on the market. That's what happens with ****ty advertising. Verizon got more money to push the gnex and razor.
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Serinety said:
Totally agree.. rezound is.like a lost treasure. It's easily the best phone on the market. That's what happens with ****ty advertising. Verizon got more money to push the gnex and razor.
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When exactly did they push advertising for the GNex? Retailers didn't even know the phone was supposed to be released on the release day. They advertise nothing but moto. I had to go to 4 different stores to get mine because they weren't sure if they could release it. Lol, vzw for ya.
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The Rezound is a solid option great form factor. I've played around with the Razr maxx and it's shortcoming is it is a little too wide. I think Verizon is waiting to decide if they will carry the new HTC One X series so your options are the Rezound or the razr maxx at the moment.
They did announce the Droid Incredible 4G LTE at CTIA...
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They did announce the Droid Incredible 4G LTE at CTIA...
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You're right! Looks like it is supposed to come out this month.
Verizon's CEO put out a press release specifying that they won't be getting any of the new HTC phones within the foreseeable future.
The Rezound has great development going on with it and is definitely a quality device. If you're getting a phone now it's what I'd recommend. VZ is going Nazi style on their Moto bootloaders so that's definitely something I wouldn't buy myself.
I would upgrate now before they take your unlimited data away.
you can`t compare , HTC - Simply the best !

Who will stay with Moto after the Ultra/Maxx/Mini?

My last two phones have been Motorola. Functionally speaking they are pretty good and my Maxx has been the most solid phone I have owned. There is a fly in the ointment though. The back cover on multiple phones which have been replaced all creak and squeak after a few months of ownership.
For this reason I am sitting tight until the next ultimate handset comes out that can functionally one-up this phone. One that is built solid but light and has the big battery or super efficient tech to go for days like the Maxx does.
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I too have a "creaking" back cover...specifically up by the power button/volume rocker...
That being said...I was always a big Moto fan..and then switched because I HAD to have the Galaxy S3 when it dropped...and that was the WORST cell phone related mistake of my life..
I couldn't wait to dump that thing and get back to Moto...I just hope that they decide to continue the Droid line along with the X line...
I am almost 100% sure that my next phone will be a Motorola...
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Droid 2, Droid 4, Droid MAXX. They've all been tanks. I had two Droid 4s that both got wet and they both pulled through until months later... Hardware wise and build quality wise I have no complaints.
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I have had several Motorolas: the droid 1 a855, Droid Razr Maxx, and now the Droid Maxx. I loved the root-ability of the first two, although the Droid Razr Maxx was a beeatch. Now that I'm on the latest droid Maxx, it really sucks that it can't be rooted, at least since that chinese guy got caught, and I'm stuck with a slower-than-it-should-be device, which I cannot customize. I will only stick with Motorola if they don't lock the bootloader on the next one, but I doubt that will happen. Looks like I will get a nexus next.
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Moto for life...
It's way too early for me to tell. I'll see what's available at upgrade time and decide then. This phone will be great until then.
I've had over a dozen Moto phones starting with the original brick and almost every flagship phone since then. I've strayed a couple times in the last 20 years and quickly came back.
I'll stay with my flagship Moto Dev's unless Lenovo messes with the built like a tank phones that we have enjoyed. If I can't drop it in a pool or river(true stories), dry it out and use it the next day, I don't want it lol.
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I just want to get out from under Verizon. That being said the functionality of these phones is awesome. So unless Google uses these new features in the next Nexus i'm jumping to the new Moto X on AT&T or the One from One plus.
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I'm not expecting to stick with Motorola, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it. I've been relatively happy with my Maxx- battery life has been far better than any other phone I've had (particularly coming from a Galaxy Nexus), which is really what drove me to the Maxx instead of the HTC One.
It seems like battery life of other phones is improving, taking away the primary distinguishing factor that brought me to Motorola. I haven't been completely happy with the performance of some apps on the Maxx, and the screen resolution could use a bump, so I'm going to prioritize those things a little higher next time around.
I'm really interested in seeing what happens with the Android Silver program. It would be tough for me to move off Verizon. Assuming Verizon participates in Android Silver, that's probably the closest thing Verizon users will get to a Nexus-like experience.
There is a new phone out every other week....
...from some company or other. So there is no way to tell what will be the best price vs performance choice a year and a half from now when my contract expires again.
I have to say thought that even though I have had root on previous Android Phones (Droid 1 and Droid 3) I don't really miss it on my Max. The biggest reason I wanted it on previous phones was to get rid of all the crap that I never used. But with the Maxx it seems like there is 1. less crap to begin with and 2. A lot of it can be disabled (including a lot of the verizon stuff) using the regular android settings menu. So I'm not particularly missing root on this phone.
On my Droid 1, late in its life I did start messing with custom roms just for fun. Funny thing is that I still have that Droid 1 sitting here on my desk running Cyanogen Mod 7.2 (think its .2 - don't remember for sure). It doesnt have cellular access anymore but it still works around the house as a WiFi only device.
PS: I was not sorry to see the Droid 3 go away. That one never lived up to my hopes for it. I liked the form factor and I do sometimes miss the physical keyboard but the CPU always seemed slow and I almost immediately regretted getting a 3G device rather than holding out a bit longer for a 4G phone.
I am very impressed with my Maxx, even today. I don't trust Verizon, and am leery of Lenovo. I want to continue with this company's awesome path that started with Google's purchase, but I am not sure that Lenovo will allow that. I am also disappointed that thanks to Verizon I am still running 4.4.0.
If they release a 64gb Moto whatever with a super battery, and the quality stays the same, I will stick with them barring further course changes for the company strategy.
My last 2 smartphones have been Motorola Droids and I love both of them. Unless in the future they remove the things I love about the phone (NFC, Qi Charging, Awesome Battery) I don't see myself using a different brand.
When using other phones in the store, they just don't do it for me. I do love the Android experience on this latest phone.
I am ready to leave Verizon because of their scheming ways.
In the store moments ago the sales reps are telling a customer that his only option to get a new phone is to give up unlimited data or buy outright. Did not mention device payment plan. Shysters.
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I think I'll stick with Moto. My next device won't be a Droid though. The successor to the Moto X sounds pretty good.
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When using other phones in the store, they just don't do it for me. I do love the Android experience on this latest phone.
I am ready to leave Verizon because of their scheming ways.
In the store moments ago the sales reps are telling a customer that his only option to get a new phone is to give up unlimited data or buy outright. Did not mention device payment plan. Shysters.
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...or at least how I did it. Don't get your phone at the Verizon Store. Order it online from Verizon (not from Amazon, wirefly, ect or any other third party - direct from Verizon). Along the way choose the option to "keep my existing plan". It let me keep my unlimited data plan that's been grandfathered for me ever since my first smart phone way back when (was a Samsung i760 Windows Mobile if anyone cares). I chose to "pick up in store" even though I had ordered on line. They guys at the store couldn't believe I still had unlimited data. They said they thought that couldn't be done.
I will stay with my Droid Mini. It has the best combination of size, power, apps, and now with it able to utilize the XLTE speeds makes it even better. I am just not that interested in getting a phone that I have to carry in hand vice in my pocket because every phone out now is 5" plus. I swear most newer phones are nearing the size of my Nexus 7 LOL.
I may jump ship if one came out with either 64Gb or SD card slot.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
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I may jump ship if one came out with either 64Gb or SD card slot.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
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The Moto E has an SD card slot and the newer release of the Moto G is getting one too. I don't know if this is an indication that Moto is changing its philosophy with the Lenovo merger (Google doesn't like SD Cards) or just an acknowledgement that these "lesser phones" don't have enough on board storage to be useful without one. The E for example has only 4 GB storage and according to the article I read, has only 2.2 GB left for the user after the OS and system apps are installed.
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The Moto E has an SD card slot and the newer release of the Moto G is getting one too. I don't know if this is an indication that Moto is changing its philosophy with the Lenovo merger (Google doesn't like SD Cards) or just an acknowledgement that these "lesser phones" don't have enough on board storage to be useful without one. The E for example has only 4 GB storage and according to the article I read, has only 2.2 GB left for the user after the OS and system apps are installed.
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I would lean towards the latter and it being a cost saving move.
These are Verizon phones
The title lists only the Droid series - Ultra/ Mini and Maxx.
The 'real' Motorola phones are the X, G and E for now.
So, question should be rephrased to "Who will stay with Verizon after the Ultra/Maxx/Mini?"
I am not in the US and using the Droid Maxx. My earlier phone - Motorola Defy - is still working after 3 years and several CM installs.
The hardware is pretty strong on that one and the build quality is good. The phone got wet several times in the rain and there have been no permanent issues due to water.
I cannot say the same for the Droid Maxx. It would be risking too much for me (I paid twice the amount to acquire a Droid Maxx, to what I paid to get a Defy three years ago.)
Hence I have put it into an Otterbox Defender series case to protect the phone since one fall on the floor will kill the phone.
The build quality of Droid Maxx is just like any other phone in the market perhaps.
But there are positives for sure.
1. The LCD has no bleeding, which I feel speaks of good quality.
2. The speaker has good volume and great quality (for music lovers)
3. The battery is awesome. For my limited use, it easily goes to the end of third day for me.
The Otterbox Defender adds a lot of bulk and the inbuilt screen protector reduces the touch sensitivity significantly (especially the virtual buttons).
But since I wish to use the phone for three more years, I think this is the price I have to pay for the beast.
I also bought a used Razr HD Maxx XT926 for my dad last year. The phone is really nice (and the 4.4.2 update is like the icing on the cake).
Luckily I have bootloader unlocked on that one, so I can retain control for a long time.

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