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I know I have Few or no posts at all... but I am quite experienced with Android OS... I wish i could have contributed more to this forum before asking for help on such an INTRICATE problem.. Anyways
The rundown is this, in the sequence in which the things occured... Today i set my phone down, (Droid X, Rooted, Running Apex 1.4.1) and it was working perfectly fine. I then pick it up, absolutely nothing had been done to it between me setting it down and picking it up, and the hard buttons (Menu, Home, Back, Search, Volume Rockers, Camera Button) all not working, only the lock button on top. So, I think like I always do, Battery pull time. I preform a pull, and turn the phone back on, then it's stuck on "M", just stays there. I pull again, stuck again, nothing, one more time and it goes to stock recovery mode just the Android and Exclamation triangle, (I have clockworkmod installed) but of course, no hardbuttons are working so it's false hope. I press buttons over and over out of frustration and I bring up the menu, but that's all i can do, and i have to hold the Volume rocker down, and search to even do that, but besides that i can do nothing more. So I'm stuck at what I see as a dead end, can't move through recovery because buttons aren't working for whatever reason, so i can't flash SBF, or stock reset... So I'm asking for help, please.
wunsung said:
I know I have Few or no posts at all... but I am quite experienced with Android OS... I wish i could have contributed more to this forum before asking for help on such an INTRICATE problem.. Anyways
The rundown is this, in the sequence in which the things occured... Today i set my phone down, (Droid X, Rooted, Running Apex 1.4.1) and it was working perfectly fine. I then pick it up, absolutely nothing had been done to it between me setting it down and picking it up, and the hard buttons (Menu, Home, Back, Search, Volume Rockers, Camera Button) all not working, only the lock button on top. So, I think like I always do, Battery pull time. I preform a pull, and turn the phone back on, then it's stuck on "M", just stays there. I pull again, stuck again, nothing, one more time and it goes to stock recovery mode just the Android and Exclamation triangle, (I have clockworkmod installed) but of course, no hardbuttons are working so it's false hope. I press buttons over and over out of frustration and I bring up the menu, but that's all i can do, and i have to hold the Volume rocker down, and search to even do that, but besides that i can do nothing more. So I'm stuck at what I see as a dead end, can't move through recovery because buttons aren't working for whatever reason, so i can't flash SBF, or stock reset... So I'm asking for help, please.
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have you tried getting it into bootloader mode?
hold vol - + camera + search while powering the device on
if you can get into bootloader mode than you can flash an sbf file
If you tried everything you can think of and still can't get it to do anything take it back to verizon. If you can't get it to work I doubt most of the employees at verizon would be able to get it to work either
Did you try a long battery pull. 30 seconds or more?
Sent from my Droid
Pull the battery and then.plug the phone into.the wall charger. Then put the battery back in, and when the phone boots up it should boot to clockwork
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Did this work?
Help! My atrix now is stuck at the "Rethink Possible" Screen and I only installed SPB 3D Shell.
Suggestions?
reflash the SBF file using RSD lite.
Thanks, but I was looking for something a little less severe.
That's like saying, oh, I've got a bug in my windows -Friend "Better wipe and reinstall windows" that's the only solution! and so forth.
THAT would wipe the phone.
I've made some progress, it seems that the Beautiful Widgets and the SPB are conflicting, and I can get into the desktop but it's black. If I press the search icon, then I get the google page.
It's only stuck at a black home screen. I have this thing set up to the nth degree and I can't bear the thought of doing it all over again, and horking up my wifi and so forth with the flash rom.
Got any suggestions on how to get to a moto blur screen with taps etc?
It's not like I rooted the damn thing or screwed it up that way. Just an install of a 15.00 program messed it up big time.
i couldnt get SPB to work on mine...
Dang. Wish I got the refund in time. The 15 minutes isn't enough. It took me 30 minutes to realize that this launcher has little room for customizing, and there's little things like slow scrolling that make LP better.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
OK, I could get to "search" mode google etc., so I searched the catalog of apps on the phone and then I found "task Manager" and got in that way. Uninstalled Beautiful widgets and stopped SPB but didn't uninstall it. Then the next time I booted I had complete hang and had to do a hard reset. Oh well, not like it's the most fun part of a phone - setting it up, so maybe I'll do a better job this time.
I never did have to reflash the rom, I knew it wasn't THAT bad.
What's irritating is nearly 90 users read my post and only 3 replied in any way. How irritating.
That's people for you I guess.
jesus the same thing is happening to me right now..
stuck on the rethink possible screen. WTF
Fountainhead931 said:
OK, I could get to "search" mode google etc., so I searched the catalog of apps on the phone and then I found "task Manager" and got in that way. Uninstalled Beautiful widgets and stopped SPB but didn't uninstall it. Then the next time I booted I had complete hang and had to do a hard reset. Oh well, not like it's the most fun part of a phone - setting it up, so maybe I'll do a better job this time.
I never did have to reflash the rom, I knew it wasn't THAT bad.
What's irritating is nearly 90 users read my post and only 3 replied in any way. How irritating.
That's people for you I guess.
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how did you get to a black desktop?
ok my phone finally got past the Rethink possible screen, but now i'm staring at a blank desktop and can only access the contact/dialer screen... search button will only allow me to search contacts
pressing a bunch of buttons also allowed me to get into the browser.. i'm fine with doing a reset if i can figure out how to get to the settings screen somehow.
you can do a factory reset without doing a reflash by going into android recovery and wiping user data/cache
hold vol down and power on
hit vol down till you get to android recovery
hit vol up
tap lower right of screen
use vol up/down to select wipe data/factory reset
tap ok on lower left
select wipe cache partition
tap ok
select reboot
tap ok
redo everything you jacked up...... only better this time
diedemus said:
you can do a factory reset without doing a reflash by going into android recovery and wiping user data/cache
hold vol down and power on
hit vol down till you get to android recovery
hit vol up
tap lower right of screen
use vol up/down to select wipe data/factory reset
tap ok on lower left
select wipe cache partition
tap ok
select reboot
tap ok
redo everything you jacked up...... only better this time
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ok, i got the the "android recovery" part, hit vol up, then it says "Entering Android Recovery mode OSD 1" or something like that.. now i see a little green android with the exclamation.. volume up/down does nothing/ there is no option for a reset or anything else... stuck here and afraid to touch any different buttons but the volume buttons aren't giving me any new options..
is it safe to do a battery pull at this point and try again or will it brick my phone?
by the way, my phone is totally stock..
...pulled battery, attempted again, same issue.
OK, here's how i fixed it without any resets..
from the dialer, i held down the search button, used Vlingo to search "Settings", uninstalled SPB, voila, phone back to normal.
thank f'king god.
It is not compatible with Atrix I guess, I have tried to install from PC... It says ur device is not compatible
I tried it out on my Atrix, ran fine with no trouble even after a few reboots. So I don't know if it is SPB itself or if it is conflicting with something you guys have installed.
Same here. Works great for me not one problem so far.
at the screen with the little android guy you tap the bottom right of the touchscreen
As suggested, starting a new thread.
Hello,
Straight to the point, Rooted UK Atrix, running 2.3.4. no other MOD OR rom or anything, i like motoblur.
Stupidly Used Bloatfreezer to freeze 'home' without having another launcher to return to. Can't use the phone now. Trying to reset (hard or soft i do not know the difference) and the phone reads ''fastboot'' then i toggle down using volume - to android recovery and the phone is coming up with starting rsd protocol x2 and nothing else (using the power + & - methods).
If i leave my phone to just boot it resides on a white screen teasing me with noises of logging in but i cannot see anything.
I'm really lost to be honest, i have no idea what to do and i am not good with terminology either (adw, flashboots, cm7 i have no idea what they are).
I know there are sooo many threads with different answer's so that is why i am starting a new thread.
To factory reset using recovery...
1.Power off the phone, press and hold volume down button, press power button.
2.Screen will come up with "Fastboot", press Vol down key to cycle through choices until you get "Android Recovery", press Vol up key
3.Wait for the "triangle ! / Android" screen then release the volume down button
*4.Tap on bottom right corner of the screen (may take a few times). a menu will come up
5.Tap on "wipe data/factory reset", and press OK. Another Confirmation screen will come. Press Yes and OK
6.After userdata is cleared, the "reboot system now" option will be highlighted by Default. Press OK.
7.Phone will reboot to initial setup MOTOBLUR screen.
NOTE/If on Android 2.3.4 then replace step #4 with pressing both Volume buttons at the same time. Also, use the Power button to activate the highlighted option instead of looking for the OK.
Sent from Rob's Atrix
atrixuk said:
As suggested, starting a new thread.
Hello,
Straight to the point, Rooted UK Atrix, running 2.3.4. no other MOD OR rom or anything, i like motoblur.
Stupidly Used Bloatfreezer to freeze 'home' without having another launcher to return to. Can't use the phone now. Trying to reset (hard or soft i do not know the difference) and the phone reads ''fastboot'' then i toggle down using volume - to android recovery and the phone is coming up with starting rsd protocol x2 and nothing else (using the power + & - methods).
If i leave my phone to just boot it resides on a white screen teasing me with noises of logging in but i cannot see anything.
I'm really lost to be honest, i have no idea what to do and i am not good with terminology either (adw, flashboots, cm7 i have no idea what they are).
I know there are sooo many threads with different answer's so that is why i am starting a new thread.
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Can you get to android market via your computer? If so go to it, log in, find a launcher and install to your phone. Once rebooted to the phone, it *should* give you a choice or just automatically choose the new launcher. What does double tapping your home button bring you too? I was able to find my alternative launcher by moving around via that.
sounds like ya have frozen system files
prolly be easyest to unlock bootloader and push a custom rom to it (they work better than stock anyway
Yes i did freeze the home app.
I really mean thanks to those replied. Unfortunately i have tried the first suggestion but it doesn't let me get to step 3 with the triangle, fast boot - android recovery - can't fast boot 2 etc can't get passed that.
i have just plugged it in the Laptop, taking sim out, and it has started! i thought it was broken!! but unfortunately not 'home' yet...
SO it is at the motoblur login screen, should i log in? press factory reset? Any suggestions?
I'm not sure how to push an app straight to phone so i can install a launcher...
we're nearly there guys!
In addition to what Robkort said a few posts up ^^^ to get into the recovery on 2.3.4 you may have to scroll down once you see fastboot, until you see "Android Recovery" and press vol up - when the android dude comes up, if tapping the bottom right corner doesnt get you into recovery, press BOTH volume buttons at the same time.
It is now up and working with me just simply plugging it in, running moto sync, logging in to market from laptop and sending the launcher app..
Wifi was enabled luckily before i froze home, so when i pressed log in it went 'error' then launcher pro just popped up so now i think i just unfreeze home, turn it off, put my sim in and fingers crossed..
wish me luck!
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
It's worrying how much happier i am now that i am back on top with my phone working. Pretty dependant we become!
All my widgets, and motoblur have gone, and some writing is in a different language :/ universal inbox is not there either.
Still Thanks for all the suggestions!
I suggest this thread should be 'FROZEN' or just stay open if anyone ever freezes 'home' without having another launcher installed.
I'm glad i didn't need to flash anything, put other ROMS on, hard reset losing everything, solved pretty simple luckily.
Got this phone from a friend. She already upgraded to iPhone so this is like a trash or free phone (I will take maximum risk to fix it). There was some moisture under the LCD glass. Put it in a bag of rice for 4 days while the new battery was on its way. That seemed to fix the moisture under the glass, so I'm assuming it fixed any other moisture.
I can get to bootloader (30.04) and the SBF using RSDLite (tried 5.3 and 5.5) appears to go through just fine. Have tried 602.sbf, VRZ_MB810_2.3.32_1FF_01.sbf, and VRZ_MB810_2.3.34_1FF_01.sbf.
Stuck on red M logo. Have tried different ways to get into recovery like holding down Home key or holding down camera key. Nothing I do can get it into recovery so I can wipe and get past this red M.
Should I try some other method I've heard of with Ubuntu and some SBF-flash application?
Hold power and home key until it goes to bootloader, do a wipe data/cache of factory restore.
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Hold power and home key until it goes to bootloader, do a wipe data/cache of factory restore.
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I think you've got your terminology mixed up. Bootloader is the mode that comes up by pressing both volume keys while powering on. This is where you flash stuff through RSDLite or use adb server to push and do hacker stuff.
Recovery is the phase where you can do factory wipes and data formatting. I can't get into recovery.
When you flash an SBF, it should be flashing a new recovery. I think the phone is hosed.
If wiping data doesn't help, do an SBF
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infazzdar said:
If wiping data doesn't help, do an SBF
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You've got to be ****ing kidding me.
Haha, I'm sorry, my kid was crawling all over me when I was writing that. What have you done so far?
Edit: Possibly try this, same thing just through ADB.
adb shell
su
format SYSTEM
format DATA
format CACHE
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FluffyMittens said:
Haha, I'm sorry, my kid was crawling all over me when I was writing that. What have you done so far?
Edit: Possibly try this, same thing just through ADB.
adb shell
su
format SYSTEM
format DATA
format CACHE
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ADB isn't working. I don't think ADB works in bootloader.
You ask me what I have done so far, but I already put all that information in the OP. That is why I was so frustrated with that second guy. If you guys would take time and not skim over my post that I actually thought out and typed ****, you wouldn't have to waste your time asking me what I have done.
I appreciate the ADB suggestion.
Just trying to collect some information. I'm someone that doesn't let a phone just be deemed as bricked. How charged is the battery?
-Edit: Just checked, ADB doesn't work in bootloader. Confirmed by having RSD open and making sure it sees it, and then tried adb devices. Also as a supporting confirmation for the fun of it, ran the one click root.
-Edit: Further thinking about it, was this phone submerged in water or just had moisture in there? There could just be some minerals formed up on the board that a toothbrush would get rid of. I've fixed phones a dozen times. Some phones will turn on and get stuck. Some wont turn on. Some the backlight comes on but no video signal.
Deoxit
My guess is that the buttons aren't working. There's no way to test that since you can only get to the bootloader, but if you can successfully SBF the phone the odds of any of the solid state gear being bad are pretty low. It does seem odd though that you can't make it to the boot animation and get stuck at the boot logo.
I would suggest getting some deoxit (tv tuner cleaner) and spraying it in around the hardkeys on the bottom of the phone. You don't need too much (especially since it might end up behind the screen). Spray that in there and then work the buttons a few dozen times. That should loosen up any corrosion on the switches and let them close the circuit again. If that doesn't do it, I'm out of ideas, but at least you'll have some deoxit lying around (stuff is great for static-y radio/stereo volume control knobs, etc).
The battery is pretty well charged. When I got it in the mail, there was no charge. I cut a USB cable and hooked it up to power. After about 2 minutes, I tried it. It got to bootloader but said battery was too low. I used the cut USB cable and hooked it around the battery pins in the phone and put the battery in, so it charged it at the same time it was tricking the phone into thinking the battery was full.
Also, if you go into Bootloader and then power off the phone, the green LED comes on. I'm assuming that means it's charging? I was skeptical since all we hear is that you're ****ed if your battery runs out at this stage of the game. It was off this morning and had been plugged in with the green LED all night (no USB cable hack).
As for trying adb while RSDLite is open, no go. adb devices shows blank. Motorola OneClick root didn't work either. It just sat there waiting for my phone. I didn't have the balls to plug in my Bionic to see if Motorola OneClick would work (and therefore the problem is with the Droid X).
As for the water damage, who knows. The lady I got it from was surprised when I told her there was moisture under the screen. I'm not her mommy so she didn't have any reason to withhold information from me. I just thought a bag of rice, a $12 battery off Newegg (free shipping, too), might just get me a sellable Droid X out of the deal.
As for the hardware buttons - they feel like they're clicking, but I know that obviously isn't the 100% test whether they're functioning properly or not. The volume buttons and power button obviously do function, since I can use those to get into BL.
Another brain jog idea: Is there an SBF out there that wipes the data and cache, along with all the other **** it puts on? This probably won't work because I still should be able to get into Recovery - something is FUBAR.
Please give up if you feel like giving up. Bricks exist. This may very well be one of them.
P.S. The girl that gave me this dropped her new iPhone 3 days into ownership. It only cracked the back glass, but the point still remains: she may not be the most graceful phone owner on the planet. Who knows what this DX has been through.
Thanks for all your help, guys.
I would try cracking that thing open and seeing if there are any mineral deposits and cleaning them. This means those weird clips and stuff too, just take a toothbrush to the whole thing and see where that gets you.
As with giving up, I'm a pretty bored guy and finding something to do is better then sitting around and watching Star Trek.
I haven't lost a phone once
Edit: Except for this [email protected]*% of an ACN voip phone that I buffer overflowed in attempt to gain root.. That ended badly.
Same problem
I had the same problem with my dx trying to sbf to .602 I ended up flashing the stock stock froyo sbf and upgrading to gingerbread by rooting and flashing CM7 or any other gingerbread rom. You didn't specify whether or not you tried froyo sbf. No idea if this will work for you but its worth a shot if you haven't already tried it. I also had to use RSD lite 4.9 or 4.8 to get the sbf file to work right.
I'd like to toss my problem into this thread if it's alright. The OP is the closest description to my situation I've read. A co-worker brought his phone to me and it would only get to the round red logo and stop there. No bootloop just a freeze at the red logo.
I tried different ways to get to recovery but was only able to get it to the white bootloader screen. (30.04) So I flashed .340 using RSD and it completes and tells me to manually start the phone. But the phone is already at a white logo (not a red one). I do a battery pull to restart the phone and I still can't get the phone to a recovery by holding down home or any other key while powering on. Battery charge is near full.
The owners explanation of how the phone got this way is that he woke up one morning and there was a 'protection mode' transparency on the screen so he rebooted and had the red logo from then on.
So, I can RSD flash just fine but the phone won't get past the black screen with the white and black M logo.
I would try flashing other files or even the Linux CD option but I can't find anything downloadable since mega got shut down.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Flash the latest rom (Gingerbread, .605) and the red logo will appear. Then, assuming it gets to the droid x loading eye, battery pull and enter recovery.
You can enter recovery by holding power and home, then, once the red/white M shows up, release the power button. Once the triangle appears, press the vol. up and down buttons simultaneously. If that doesn't work, press a bunch of random buttons until the recovery screen comes up. I'm not kidding, it works.
From this menu, scroll with the volume keys, and select with the power button. Wipe data/factory reset, then wipe cache partition. Reboot, and you should be good to go.
NType3 said:
Flash the latest rom (Gingerbread, .605) and the red logo will appear. Then, assuming it gets to the droid x loading eye, battery pull and enter recovery.
You can enter recovery by holding power and home, then, once the red/white M shows up, release the power button. Once the triangle appears, press the vol. up and down together gets buttons simultaneously. If that doesn't work, press a bunch of random buttons until the recovery screen comes up. I'm not kidding, it works.
From this menu, scroll with the volume keys, and select with the power button. Wipe data/factory reset, then wipe cache partition. Reboot, and you should be good to go.
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1. Would be happy to try .602. Do you know of a working link?
2. It never gets to the eye.
Edit... I found a 602 iso to make a CD boot disk from and used that. The install went perfect but the phone still just boots to a red M logo and freezes there. It doesn't get to the red eye and no button press combo can get it to the recovery screen. I can only get it to the bootloader or let it go to the red logo. The buttons don't feel sticky or anything and the batt is fully charged.
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Skyroket said:
Got this phone from a friend. She already upgraded to iPhone so this is like a trash or free phone (I will take maximum risk to fix it). There was some moisture under the LCD glass. Put it in a bag of rice for 4 days while the new battery was on its way. That seemed to fix the moisture under the glass, so I'm assuming it fixed any other moisture.
I can get to bootloader (30.04) and the SBF using RSDLite (tried 5.3 and 5.5) appears to go through just fine. Have tried 602.sbf, VRZ_MB810_2.3.32_1FF_01.sbf, and VRZ_MB810_2.3.34_1FF_01.sbf.
Stuck on red M logo. Have tried different ways to get into recovery like holding down Home key or holding down camera key. Nothing I do can get it into recovery so I can wipe and get past this red M.
Should I try some other method I've heard of with Ubuntu and some SBF-flash application?
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This will have all sbf working files and linux operating systems along with everything you will need try to sbf one of those preff linux. If this doesn't work and your still stuck! Go to this web page you will need.
Motorola Droid X Motherboard Flex Cable Replacement
Motorola Droid X Keypad Flex Cable Replacement
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/motorola-droid-x-replacement-screens-repair-parts.html
Finally here is how you take it apart with out damaging it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo7dXyJhL1U
GL to you enjoy your droid x once ya get it working!
I always have to sbf my dx twice, I always boot loop the first time.
Just fyi, if you bootloop after an sbf, you can pull the battery, boot into stock recovery with the usual key combo format data and you'll be all set: no more bootlooping (or double sbfing!)
I woke up this morning and my phone will not boot. It automatically boots into the bootloader (hboot) and the up/down (volume keys) wont move the cursor to allow me to get to the recovery option. Also if I try to boot into recovery using the hard button combo it vibrates 3 times and the led turns to green, then it just sits/never gets to recovery. Since hboot is looking for the PDimg file I figure I could use this file to revert to stock but I was hoping someone here might have a better answer.
If not can someone let me know how to go about flashing with a PD15img file and where I can find a copy?
Thanks guys
Sounds like your volume button is stuck
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
Nope because it knows when I'm using them to try to go straight to recovery also the power button cannot be used to select either but it works to turn the phone one. They just stop working in hboot.
A constantly pressed button will of course also react when you're trying to boot directly to recovery. The phone doesn't "know" anything.
Another option is a stuck trackpad.
If all else fails you might try to reflash recovery and or Hboot, it never hurts to try from a clean install.
Nic
Jack_R1 said:
A constantly pressed button will of course also react when you're trying to boot directly to recovery. The phone doesn't "know" anything.
Another option is a stuck trackpad.
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I think you guys are misunderstanding the point. This has nothing to do with the buttons. My issue is when I turn my phone on (by hitting the power button once) the phone will only boot into hboot. Once in hboot none of the keys (power or volume) work. If I try to boot directly into recovery by holding vol up/down + power; the phone will viberate 3 times and the LED lights up green. It then just sits on a blacklit black screen and does nothing else.
I am looking for eirther; Anyone that has ever had this issue and may be able to shed some light onto why it happened. Which by the way was completly random, I shut the phone off before going to sleep and woke up too it viberating like crazy then when I tried to turn it back on; this is what happened.
Or the answer to this question; How do I install a rom from hboot? Can I just install any rom as a "update" by using the method of naming it PD15IMG? Since it does search for this file when I have a sd card in at boot. But if my memory serves me correct it will ask; "Would you like to install this update?" and if my hard buttons do not work and I cannot click yes than what else can I do?
Thanks for all the help guys!!!!
- M
And I think you can't read. You've been told in 3 posts that the phone boots directly to HBOOT because EITHER A VOLUME DOWN BUTTON OR A TRACKPAD BUTTON IS STUCK, ON ELECTRICAL LEVEL - THE CONTACTS ARE ALWAYS CLOSED. And THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT ON SOFTWARE/FLASHING LEVEL. You need to fix what's broken, and you've been told what's broken. Patience isn't one of my skills. Good luck from here.
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And I think you can't read. You've been told in 3 posts that the phone boots directly to HBOOT because EITHER A VOLUME DOWN BUTTON OR A TRACKPAD BUTTON IS STUCK, ON ELECTRICAL LEVEL - THE CONTACTS ARE ALWAYS CLOSED. And THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT ON SOFTWARE/FLASHING LEVEL. You need to fix what's broken, and you've been told what's broken. Patience isn't one of my skills. Good luck from here.
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I do thank you for your help but you may want to aquire some patience if you plan to continue helping people... since people in need of help are most likely confused.
Thanks though :highfive:
Im my experience Jack_R1's answers are always right and are the answer to your question. If you think otherwise one of two things is happening.
1) You did not explain your problem thoroughly.
2) You need to examine his post(s) more closely.
He has zero tolerance for stupidity or ignorance due to laziness (i.e. not searching). I'm not trying to speak for him or defend him or anything else. He's grown and quite capable of handling all that. The man just knows the answer and gets to the damn point.
I wish we had more people around here like him.