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Description requests

Hi guys,
I've been reading this forum for almost a month now (since I got my Epic), and I still haven't seen any description for a lot of the software you're using. I'm not an idiot here, I made a joeykrim exploit uninstaller of my own shortly after noobnl posted the one click exploit. Still, I'm not a mind reader. How do you guys even keep up with this?
ClockworkMod - The website describes it as, "An open source recovery image used by many phones". Not very helpful. There's a post on their forums asking what it does, with no response.
Andromeda - Apparently a ROM Manager with built in root. Not very helpful. Starting from the top, why would I need a ROM manager? Does this run on the phone? Why would I want a ROM manager on my phone? Doesn't this serve the same function as ClockworkMod?
AOSP Magic and Tha Boss ROM - Neither of these have any instructions. Tha Boss ROM actually includes a download link, while AOSP Magic eschews the link in favor of a video review. The video review is nice, as it contains the first instructions I've seen so far, brief as they may be.
A few lines of description on your releases would really help the new people. Really, you'd have to be a fool to download these programs and flash/fry your phone without description or instruction! You're pushing away the more cautious people who might otherwise join in.

Netop said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading this forum for almost a month now (since I got my Epic), and I still haven't seen any description for a lot of the software you're using. I'm not an idiot here, I made a joeykrim exploit uninstaller of my own shortly after noobnl posted the one click exploit. Still, I'm not a mind reader. How do you guys even keep up with this?
ClockworkMod - The website describes it as, "An open source recovery image used by many phones". Not very helpful. There's a post on their forums asking what it does, with no response.
Andromeda - Apparently a ROM Manager with built in root. Not very helpful. Starting from the top, why would I need a ROM manager? Does this run on the phone? Why would I want a ROM manager on my phone? Doesn't this serve the same function as ClockworkMod?
AOSP Magic and Tha Boss ROM - Neither of these have any instructions. Tha Boss ROM actually includes a download link, while AOSP Magic eschews the link in favor of a video review. The video review is nice, as it contains the first instructions I've seen so far, brief as they may be.
A few lines of description on your releases would really help the new people. Really, you'd have to be a fool to download these programs and flash/fry your phone without description or instruction! You're pushing away the more cautious people who might otherwise join in.
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clockwork rom manager is an app on your phone that requires root access, allows you to flash roms under the android OS and is nice and GUI (graphic user interface)
clockwork recovery is at the boot level, before the android OS loads, it's used as a minimal menu to do lower level functions such as flashing roms to your phone, clockwork rom manager uses this as it's backend for flashing roms.
androidmedia, boss rom and aosp magic are all roms (entire custom android OS packages) flashable though clockwork recovery
everything listed as a kernel is only a chunk of the OS that controls the hardware and such... they can overclock the device and improve battery etc. applications and favorites and other user data stuff is uneffected.
the weird names are just what the developers are naming their software. What you should be paying attention to are key terms like
ROM, KERNEL, RECOVERY those are the different parts that are being modified...
That being said.... for someone that researched for over a month, you don't seem to be quite getting it, also this doesn't need to be in developer forum, and all this is in the hundreds of WIKI's posted on other android devices.. also a quick google search would answer most of your questions you're having

Netop said:
ClockworkMod -
Andromeda -
AOSP Magic and Tha Boss ROM
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ClockworkMod - makes a custom recovery, along with many other programs and apps, that makes flashing custom rom's and kernels much easier. Add Clockwork Recovery to your phone and you can load any custom rom or kernel you want by simply booting into recovery. Instructions to install it on your phone are in the OP (original post) of the clockwork recovery thread.
Andromeda - It is a group of custom programs noobnl has made. He made a custom kernel (this overclocks (makes faster) your cpu and undervolts (adds battery life)). His kernel also installs rom manager and super user to make make rooting more functional. Noobnl also has an andromeda rom that modifies touchwiz to be a little different with some different features. In both cases read the OP of the two threads and you will find easy installation instructions (using clockworkmod recovery) and a description of what they both do.
Aosp Magic and Tha Boss - These are both custom roms that in some way change how your phone looks and functions. Custom roms are all just ways to personalize your phone. For the most part they all install easily with clockwork recovery. Read the OP of any rom and it tells what they have done, what they do with each update, and how to install it.
Not trying to be mean or anything, but reading the OP pretty much always explains everything. I have only been doing this since they epic came out and have just learned by trying things out. It is very difficult to fully brick your phone. Most the time if you can't get your phone to work you can use Odin (see the thread for more info) to flash back to stock and start over.

Just my two cents but people who are pushed away isn't a bad thing. If they don't know what they are doing they don't need to be doing this. There are several terminology threads on this site...pushing them away means a lot less clutter in the dev threads and else where. Not that I'm saying they shouldn't be here at all, but read read read read....read....and then read some more. And if all else fails bash it with a hammer and turn it in on insurance.
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See, its hard to really complain on this because some people are doing some cool stuff on their own effort and time, but I will agree with the OP on this. I agree that only a few lines of descriptions would not only help new users but cut a LOT of threads and posts from people interested but unsure of what do or what something is. And in fairness, it sounds pretty bad when u say that if people aren't that familiar with stuff they shouldn't try it. We don't all know everything and sometimes a little info goes a long way. But that's just my opinion.
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Unfortunately if you can't search, read, and understand all the info that is posted you'll have only one option to customize your phone...Sprint ID(which will cost you $$). I've found that none of the processes, such as rooting or flashing kernels, are difficult to perform. In fact sometimes the amount of information already provided becomes confusing to some. I understand the issue devs have with the clutter in this section of the forum. Maybe mods can help by moving topics to the general section and maybe preserving the cleanliness of this section. On the other hand, why all the rage against people asking questions? If I'm not mistaken everyone isn't magically born with all the knowledge required to customize their phone. That's why there are forums like these to provide a community where people seeking knowledge can find it. Personally I find the forums for any piece of hardware from my Directv box to my Epic to be absolutely the most valuable "manual" I can have. Its nice to rely on actual intelligent users for information and not a low paid csr with a script on the other end of the phone.

zetterwing said:
Unfortunately if you can't search, read, and understand all the info that is posted you'll have only one option to customize your phone...Sprint ID(which will cost you $$). I've found that none of the processes, such as rooting or flashing kernels, are difficult to perform. In fact sometimes the amount of information already provided becomes confusing to some. I understand the issue devs have with the clutter in this section of the forum. Maybe mods can help by moving topics to the general section and maybe preserving the cleanliness of this section. On the other hand, why all the rage against people asking questions? If I'm not mistaken everyone isn't magically born with all the knowledge required to customize their phone. That's why there are forums like these to provide a community where people seeking knowledge can find it. Personally I find the forums for any piece of hardware from my Directv box to my Epic to be absolutely the most valuable "manual" I can have. Its nice to rely on actual intelligent users for information and not a low paid csr with a script on the other end of the phone.
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no problem with the questions, it's just where it's being asked is the problem. People don't think their question will be answered if asked in the general section, or the thread that relates to their problem and decides... I'll just post in the dev section.. there's smart people in that forum!
I've seen it more than once, people don't want to search, or research... or read.. they want to ask a question and have someone answer it directly without having to dig back through posts that don't relate to the question they're asking. Like I said I seen it more than once and the mentality is easy to pick up on.

Don't worry I'm on your side. I've just seen some pretty rough treatment of someone asking a question...in this forum actually(not this thread). They were posting in the wrong place but there's a better way to direct someone to the right place than to berate them. That being said go to the Search and type in "root my phone" without quotes and THIS thread shows up higher in the list than one-click-root. Tends to throw people off the search function. I know it's a faulty way of searching but it's the way people do things. Many forums have problems with their search though. A google search for root Epic 4g has similar problems...the top results link to outdated information and the one click is halfway down the page.
People don't always read the rules of a forum either...it's just human nature. At least the people that make it here are finding the smartest people to answer their questions

Thread moved to General. Please stop flaming the OP.

Aria: which ROM to use?

I m looking to root my aria and would like to know which ROM should i use. All i m interested in is:
Ability to move apps to SD (this is my biggest issue with stock rom)
Probably keep sense UI or something close to it..
be able to unroot to stock ROm in case AT&T decides to release froyo
Will appreciate any input..

Honestly, its a preference thing...attn's liberated is a stripped down version of the stock at&t rom, while the cyanogen mod is just...well, to put it simply a LOT better than anything else...but, again, that's just my preference...my suggestion, try both and YOU choose which one to use because, ultimately, you're the one using the phone -- not us.
Sent from my Liberty using XDA App

@OP
The first thing you need to learn is the RULE OF SEARCH. This has been covered several times. Do a little reading and you'll get your answers. There's no point asking a question that has frankly been answered a million times and one that is entirely based on an individuals preference.
Also make sure your future posts / threads are in the appropriate forum. Moving to General.

[Q] list of all notable android mods

is there one?
i just know cyanogen and i heard about "blacky´s rom" but could not find it via google.
thx vm
kws

You won't get an answer here.
You really should just Google it.
There is no list. There is no one collection of these MODS.
I don't know if you are referring to MODS, as those coders/hackers that MODify Android, or if you are looking for MODifications to android.
Either way, you are asking for one helluva long ass list if you think one exists.
There are literally thousands of MODifications you can do to an android device.
There literally hundreds of android MODifiers/coders/hackers/developers, etc.

yes indeed,
i ment MODifications of android. but not just modifications but roms.
i just wrote 'mods' because cyanogen call their product 'mod'.
and i did google it. especially 'blacky', about which i heard some time ago.
but i could not find anything. when i google 'android mod' 90% of the results
are about cyanogenmod. the rest is something totally different.
and i think if you would take just the notable (means with a certain amount
of developer activity) roms/mods, the list would not be too long.
but anyway, thanx. i will bite my way through.
have a nice one
kws

Suggestion. Put rom manager on your phone and play
Sent from my EVO with CM7 and honeybread

Compile a list yourself and post it?

It is clear that custom roms are new to you. I only recently flashed my first custom rom but I think I can be more helpful than some people are choosing to be.
I wouldnt get a rom from google. You dont really know its source and often have no one to contact about issues/suggestions. I think the safest option if to go to the subforum on this site that is specific for your phone. Then click on Android Development Forum. In there you will probably have threads for all the major roms such as CyanogenMod, Revolution, LeeDroid, CoreDroid. These are all being constantly improved and you can also report bugs to help future development. Best advantage is they usually have specific instructions for that rom.
Good luck!

Suggestion for the infamous "which rom is best" question

Hi everyone,
So XDA has made it clear that they dislike the question "Which is the best ROM" and will delete any posts based on this question.
I think we can have a thread that is more factual rather than opinionated. An actual comparison charts of some sort, with a long list of ROMs and which features they have or don't have being identified by checkboxes.
I know the general reply to the question is try them out yourself and pick what you like, but the idea here is not to say which is best, its just to provide as much information as possible so that we don't have to test each rom individually or go through threads and threads to find what we like.
I don't know exactly how this would be approached but if a this thread can become a sticky thread I think there will be a lot less questions on ROM features. Maybe the ROM developers can make submissions or whatever to the list with the features they have/don't have and new features can be added as they are made.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, feel free to move/delete this if inappropriate.

Thread closed,
While your idea is interesting it still falls under the rom comparison thread which is against forum rules.
The reason we do not allow these is, if you are a rom developer who has spent hours and days worth of work, putting a rom together, then somebody comes in and says this rom is better because it has X Y and Z, you can see how that developer would not take it too well.
The best thing to do is to simply read the OP's of the different roms in question and try it for yourself.
Best rom threads do not work in general because each user is different. If you give a rom to 3 people and say to use it, each person will get different results.
It does boil down to the fact the you need to decide what you want out of your phone and then try roms yourself to see which one is best for you.
Many thanks,
Ghost

Request to developers

First thanks to all developers,who makes mi a1 more flexible with Thier custom roms,I here to make some request to you developers,people's here getting bored of trying android 7.1,8,8.1 versions with the same source,all developers making the same rom with different names,we all are looking for something interesting like UI,themes and launcher based roms,pls make some moded roms with UI of miui,flyme os,samsung,Baidu will make mi a1 more interesting,ppls who like to support this theard write your suggestions to know those developers with all respect,thank you,have a nice day

I don't want to be rude. But why would you post it here of all places?
1. No developer is going to even read this post unless it creates a "boom" on the internet.
2. These ROMs are, and will be developed the way Google and other corporations want, and the way they'll get the most money off of it.
3. If you are that desperate, make the ROM yourself.
Have a great day.

I will try not to be rude, and i am sorry for if it feels that way.
First of all, if you are requesting, why make a Q&A thread?
Secondly, the ROMs which you currently have are highly customizable; yes they are all based on the same vanilla android, but that cannot be helped unless somehow Google is to release new android versions every month; moreover, each of these ROMs them have their own unique features to an extent. You can theme your phone to your liking and you can change to any launcher you want, so i don't really understand what is your request?
As of the MIUI, it might come as a ROM for the device in near future and for the others I don't really think anyone would want TouchWiz running in their phone instead of vanilla android.
You can literally do loads to customize your device and would suggest you look into it deeper.

Ok I will try to be rude.. just stop requesting roms. Devs work on their own free time. And you have no right to ask for roms.. if one day someone does decide to port miui or others. It will not be because you requested.

"people's here getting bored of trying android 7.1,8,8.1 versions with the same source", speak to yourself.
Also, if you are tired of stock feeling, why the heck did you buy an Android One phone??

Let's follow the forum rules, shall we?
I'm sure he has gotten his answer already.

OP didn't even asked a question in the first place. Oh, wait, shall all answers begin with a fake "I don't want to be rude but..."?

It's not fake. It's true. I just said that you should mind your language.