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I just recently got the MyTouch4G, got it permrooted and did a full back up of my sd card to my pc, but it's still on stock rom. I want to flash cyanogen7 but there's a lot of junk on the sd card first
My question is if it is okay to do a full format and if so, any advice on important folders or files I should copy back after the format, apart from the clockwork folder (i know that one is important)
Thanks for any help...
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Well do as I do just create a dir called Files and inside it make sub dir's and put all stuff you want in it like aduio, video, photo, ect. Also dont worry about the other folders in your root /sdcard. Far as format goes as you backed it up to your PC just format sdcard and if you missed something it will rebuild itself. Make sure you backed up video/photo whatever if you took any. Usually once you install something that requires you to place elements in the root of your sdcard after its complete always remove it this way you save yourself a lot of headaches later on. I always keep my dir nice and clean old habit of *nix world
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Well do as I do just create a dir called Files and inside it make sub dir's and put all stuff you want in it like aduio, video, photo, ect. Also dont worry about the other folders in your root /sdcard. Far as format goes as you backed it up to your PC just format sdcard and if you missed something it will rebuild itself. Make sure you backed up video/photo whatever if you took any. Usually once you install something that requires you to place elements in the root of your sdcard after its complete always remove it this way you save yourself a lot of headaches later on. I always keep my dir nice and clean old habit of *nix world
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Thanks for your response. Just curious but clockwork recovery on Vibrant saves itself as update.zip (if I remember correctly) on the root of the internal sd card. Where does it save recovery on MT4G? I didn't see an update.zip file after flashing recovery. Thanks again for your response
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Its saved under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup you will see the dir with timestamp. Normally I don't waste time backing up as I know what I am doing but if you do want it then go ahead and just mv the dir to your PC temporarily then sync back to sdcard once you are done.
Whatever data is saved even the cache on SD I know so if I find data that is valuable I still mv it to /sdcard/files and redirect that path. This way I have clean data scheme as you don't want 9000 bs on your root directory.
Thanks again for replying. I know where the nandroid backups are stored but what I was wondering about is the actual clockwork recovery that you boot into in order to flash roms, make backups, etc. On Samsung Vibrant, when you go into rom manager and flash recovery, it creates a zip file on the root of your internal sd. When you do this with MT4G, it puts that recovery flash somewhere.
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m00nshake said:
Thanks again for replying. I know where the nandroid backups are stored but what I was wondering about is the actual clockwork recovery that you boot into in order to flash roms, make backups, etc. On Samsung Vibrant, when you go into rom manager and flash recovery, it creates a zip file on the root of your internal sd. When you do this with MT4G, it puts that recovery flash somewhere.
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I think CM comes with clockwork rom manager preinstalled. Your recovery won't change when you flash a rom. There's no need to back up recoveries because they're available in rom manager. If you need cw 3.0.0.5 just download the flashable version from the cm7 forum and save it.
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Since the mytouch 4g installs some of the apps on the microSD card, does a nandroid backup include those in the system image? Or should I use something like titanium backup for those?
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Since the mytouch 4g installs some of the apps on the microSD card, does a nandroid backup include those in the system image? Or should I use something like titanium backup for those?
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Nandroid will back everything in the system including apps but some data is stored on the sd card as well. My advice is to a nandroid and backup your entire sd card to your pc as well
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XfooYen said:
I think CM comes with clockwork rom manager preinstalled. Your recovery won't change when you flash a rom. There's no need to back up recoveries because they're available in rom manager. If you need cw 3.0.0.5 just download the flashable version from the cm7 forum and save it.
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This is not really in reference to cyanogenmod but any rooted MT4G. When you root your phone you download and install clockwork. From rom manager, you choose ' flash recovery'. You choose your phone from the list and it flashes the recovery image somewhere on your phone. My question was to find out what directory does it flash recovery to and as what the file is called.
I am currently running gorillasens final but this would be the same as any rom here, possibly the exception being cyanogenmod
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m00nshake said:
Nandroid will back everything in the system including apps but some data is stored on the sd card as well. My advice is to a nandroid and backup your entire sd card to your pc as well
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I understand that, my question was whether or not a nandroid backup includes the app data stored on the sd card?
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I understand that, my question was whether or not a nandroid backup includes the app data stored on the sd card?
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No it does not have data stored on sd card
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What is list files/folders that came stock on the MT4G micro-SD card?
Thanks
if i i just install the newest clockwork mod and not immedaitly flash a new rom will it effect my current rom? right now i have mdjs cyonogen 7 rom and it runs great but i want to try the new typhoon cyonogen and for that one i need to use the newest clockwork.i just dont want to install it right away i just want to have everything ready for when i do.thank you for any help you may give
no, CWR wont affect your current ROM at all.
lowrider262 said:
no, CWR wont affect your current ROM at all.
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Yes it will. It will override the current ROM you have flashed to NAND AFAIK. So basically it will just say kernel not found or something along the lines of that when you try boot AD NAND.
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Skellyyy said:
Yes it will. It will override the current ROM you have flashed to NAND AFAIK. So basically it will just say kernel not found or something along the lines of that when you try boot AD NAND.
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so can i install clock work then just reinstall my current rom?will that work?
puch77 said:
so can i install clock work then just reinstall my current rom?will that work?
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It depends upon the current ROM you are using. If you are using NAND ROM(DFT method) then it will overwrite clockwork MOD. There are special types of ROMS (.zip method) for clockwork mod.
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It depends upon the current ROM you are using. If you are using NAND ROM(DFT method) then it will overwrite clockwork MOD. There are special types of ROMS (.zip method) for clockwork mod.
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Yeah, what he said. You can easily back up your apps, homescreen layouts, settings etc. with either My Backup or Titanium backup. I personally prefer My backup as titanium wouldn't work for some odd reason for me.
You can get My Backup pro which will add the apps automatically for you too so you don't have to click install and done about a gazillion times depending on how many apps you have.
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It depends upon the current ROM you are using. If you are using NAND ROM(DFT method) then it will overwrite clockwork MOD. There are special types of ROMS (.zip method) for clockwork mod.
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cool thank you.what size sd card works best? all i have is 2g right now
puch77 said:
cool thank you.what size sd card works best? all i have is 2g right now
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Well any size of SD card will do, as you will be installing android on NAND ROM via clockwork recovery. So your 2gb sd card will be free to be used for your data.
If you want more space than there are multiple options. either buy new sd card 8gb, 16gb or choose a ROM which is slim so that you have more space left on the phone.
Actually, it depends on your partition layout in the flash.cfg file. If you are not changing the partition layout, then it shouldn't erase anything. If the layout is different than what you had before, it will format the partitions.
puch77 said:
cool thank you.what size sd card works best? all i have is 2g right now
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That card well be used up very quickly. Backups with cwm take up alot of space. You could only put 2 backups on 2gb card.
mattfmartin said:
That card well be used up very quickly. Backups with cwm take up alot of space. You could only put 2 backups on 2gb card.
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how offten do back ups need to be made? ans why?
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Actually, it depends on your partition layout in the flash.cfg file. If you are not changing the partition layout, then it shouldn't erase anything. If the layout is different than what you had before, it will format the partitions.
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He's using a MDJ build which are all DFT so it would wipe it.
That's another thing, do you know which CWM partition size you need? If you plan on installing basic AOSP ROM's I recommend 150.
Oh and backups aren't needed,
they just backup the entire ROM you're using so if anything goes wrong with the other ROM you can gu back to the working one, that you've backed up.
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Skellyyy said:
He's using a MDJ build which are all DFT so it would wipe it.
That's another thing, do you know which CWM partition size you need? If you plan on installing basic AOSP ROM's I recommend 150.
Oh and backups aren't needed,
they just backup the entire ROM you're using so if anything goes wrong with the other ROM you can gu back to the working one, that you've backed up.
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i plan on using the typhoon cyonogen build and i've also just found MDJs CWM that i want to put on it.io think the typhoon build uses the newest CWM.
puch77 said:
i plan on using the typhoon cyonogen build and i've also just found MDJs CWM that i want to put on it.io think the typhoon build uses the newest CWM.
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Yeah I'm sure they will both work with CWM once they're in .zip format. So download both, put them on your SD card, flash the 150M version of CWM then just partition the SD card the way you like (only if needed) and install a ROM. One thing to note, is when after you've installed a ROM, clear the cache. Just to get rid of anything left behind.
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Yeah I'm sure they will both work with CWM once they're in .zip format. So download both, put them on your SD card, flash the 150M version of CWM then just partition the SD card the way you like (only if needed) and install a ROM. One thing to note, is when after you've installed a ROM, clear the cache. Just to get rid of anything left behind.
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tried installing the CWM and it wouldnt install kept giving me an error? not sure what i did wrong
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Yeah I'm sure they will both work with CWM once they're in .zip format. So download both, put them on your SD card, flash the 150M version of CWM then just partition the SD card the way you like (only if needed) and install a ROM. One thing to note, is when after you've installed a ROM, clear the cache. Just to get rid of anything left behind.
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is the SD card only supoposed to have only the CWM on and nothing else until after it's installed?
puch77 said:
is the SD card only supoposed to have only the CWM on and nothing else until after it's installed?
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No, it can have a your files. I just keep all mine in a folder called ROM's just so they're not cluttered in the root of my SD.
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When I buy my phone I had a lot of applications and I don't want any of them so I install a new ROM but a lot of folders and contents remain. Because I'm not a Android expert I'll like to know wich folders & files I should delete and which not. Any help?
Folders where? /system or /data? or on the sdcard? Installing a new rom you sould have wiped the internal storage. The sdcard isn't too important
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The folders is on the SD card, so I can delete all them? just leave the ROM and nothing else?
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The folders is on the SD card, so I can delete all them? just leave the ROM and nothing else?
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Delete anything you dont want to keep
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Ok, thanks so much I hope not to break my phone
I've read over and over and need verification and reassuarance that I'm doing this properly. Trying to keep track of android devices get confusing at time. I'm not a total android noob, I've got my thunderbolt, the wife's fascinate, and a droid x, I've just bought the iconia and it's rooted, my confusion lies with, its magic and the Acer recovery installer. After rooting do you just flash cwm via the Acer recovery installer? Create a backup and flash a new rom? And treat it like any other device?what's the importance of having both cwm and the Acer stock image? Stock is for receiving ota updates correct?
What's different between its magic and the Acer recovery installer?
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ARI installs both the custom CWM and itsmagic on to your tablet once rooted. Flashing ROMs through CWM will automatically run itsmagic to calculate the new checksums, you don't need to worry about it.
ARI is just there to make installing itsmagic and CWM a lot simpler.
Thanks. How do you format external SD on this thing?
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ibsk8 said:
Thanks. How do you format external SD on this thing?
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Have yet to find an app that can do this - have never had the need, but if needed I would just use a microsd card reader, hook it to my PC, and format from there. Anyone else know of a utility for Droid that allows format of external SD card?
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I could not the format function in honeycomb either kinda odd.
Anyway, if you are trying to 'format' for first time use in your tab, upon inserting SD card the tab automatically creates the file structure it needs. Hope that helps.
Take the card out.I use a format utility by sandisk works with all removable media.think I gotfeom there website. But there are alot of format utilities out there just format in fat 32 seems to work best.for me anyway
Hope this helps
I was just going to pop in in my thunderbolt and format it, is this a problem?
Also when creating backups with cwm does it save backups to the internal memory? Or external_sdcard?
Drives me nuts that the internal memory is at /mnt/sdcard and its not an SD card.
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ibsk8 said:
I was just going to pop in in my thunderbolt and format it, is this a problem?
Also when creating backups with cwm does it save backups to the internal memory? Or external_sdcard?
Drives me nuts that the internal memory is at /mnt/sdcard and its not an SD card.
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CWM saves to ext SD card!
Another Q, the tablet I have says android 3.0.1 ,what else do I need to know before flashing, do certain roms on work when on certain android versions?
On the phones you have to match roms to radios (but no radios here) are there firmware versions that need to be matched with the from or will flashing the rom bring you up to the current version.
I've learned the hard way so sorry for the noob questions, each device is a new method thanks.
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Check for update, newest update ota is 3.1
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Hymizzle said:
Check for update, newest update ota is 3.1
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What he said ^
update to 3.1 and then root with Iconiaroot 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
That way you don't have to bother with the orientation lock, etc of gingerbreak.
Thanks. Downloading now.
More questions.
When retrieving an ota is it necessary to revert back to the stock recovery as well?
For example prior to retrieving
1. Restore stock backup via cwm
2. Restore stock recovery (is this necessary?)
3. Unroot via terminal or other method
4. Retrieve OTA
Then reroot and reflash cwm recovery and create a backup.
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ibsk8 said:
For example prior to retrieving
1. Restore stock backup via cwm
2. Restore stock recovery (is this necessary?)
3. Unroot via terminal or other method
4. Retrieve OTA
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There shouldn't be the need for any of those steps, CWM doesn't care if you have rooted the tablet for example, and the OTA update just updates binaries on the system, it shouldn't be affected either.
if you install a stock rom, you have to re-flash cwm, root, kernel because it cleans everything, and i think that it is a good thing to happen.
dudes i am planning to switch to #199 cm7.
the plans are...
1) fresh flash #199 with 2.6.32 buzz kernal.
2) dta2sd beta 3,jewz ram script, sd speed increase script(4068) .
3) custom mtd partition with 170mb system and 30 mb cache.
4) data and app to sd ext4.
5) 8gb class 4 sd partitioned to 1gb ext4, 32mb swap, rest with fat32 with a large allocation value.
6) lot of paid app of course.
i need your suggestions ....
thanks in advance.
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Do the mtd partition as you install 199, I got problems when a2sd was already installed, my mtd settings are 140 10, 10mb works fine for cache just make sure you have 06mountdl in your init.d folder otherwise you wont be able to download anything from the market above 10mb in size, if it isn't in the init.d folder you should find it in the cm zip.
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Scratch0805 said:
Do the mtd partition as you install 199, I got problems when a2sd was already installed, my mtd settings are 140 10, 10mb works fine for cache just make sure you have 06mountdl in your init.d folder otherwise you wont be able to download anything from the market above 10mb in size, if it isn't in the init.d folder you should find it in the cm zip.
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dude i haven't heared of init.d folder. pls explain. well i surely plan to give 25 mb cache. if so do i need to care about init.d folder?
" just make sure you have 06mountdl in your init.d folder" dude i realy dont understand this.
" if it isn't in the init.d folder you should find it in the cm zip." and this too i dnt understand.
so i am a newbee to custom mtd partition. hence i need help about this. how should i need to use the script? i plan to flash it soon after i reboot to #199. only after that i will install my apps.and also gapps. so do i need to take nandroid backup? as i have backups of my app using titanium backup. so i will install every thing later.
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Put the files needed on your sd card and write your settings in the txt file.
Run the first part of the mtd partition (wipe system/data/cache and install the first zip, bravo recovery or something like that, reboot your recovery from the advanced setting.
After doing the first step install your fresh copy of cm7 (instead of the nandroid backup) without wiping anything, then run the bravo boot zip and let it boot before installing anything else.
Files from the market, when first downloaded go to your /cache folder which if set to only 10mb would mean you can only download files below 10mb in size, the 06mountdl script deals with this by diverting the downloads elsewhere /data partition I think (not sure), the scripts are found in /system/etc/init.d after installing cyanogen if your cache size is small just check that folder (with root explorer) as a few times I have had to extract 06mountdl from the cm7 zip because it hasn't installed.
All that happens if 06mountdl isn't there is, when you go to the market you'll get an annoying message saying you don't have space left if the filesize of the app is larger than your cache.
Hope that made sense its 7am here.
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thanks for your help dude. i will check it out. also do i need to flash dta2sd b4 or after i install apps. i had done it b4 i install apps in my current rom#177. do you have any suggestions?
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Not entirely sure, I know some people say before but its never harmed me doing it after, you may aswell just run it straightaway though after your first reboot. Just in case.
I only use beta 3 as I had problems with beta 4, I don't think there's any noticeable changes between them tbh.
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k. i will check it. and will post my experience. thank you dude. see you soon.
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So i ended up in cm7#203. Stable. Fast, like it a lot.
The sad thing is i can't make custom mtd. Every time i ended in a non booting cm7 boot screen. Actually i had to flash froyo 2.2.1 ruu 2 times. Rooted, installed cwm. 2 times. Coz i had done like u said. Flashed custom mtd recovery with mtdpartmap.txt file containing 160 25. Then installed new rom with a reboot of recovery only.also flashed bravo boot. All as you said. Stuck in splash screen. So again tried to flash new rom and kernel from recovery. Still the same after flashing. So again ruu flash. Install custom cwm v5.xxx.partitioned SD. This time the SD got corrupted. So removed custom cwm and put original cwm using fastboot flash. Then partitioned with out errors. And installed cm7#203 from cwm, SD speed increase script,Jews ram script,2.6.35 kernal, latest radio, mediaprofile patch, gapps for 2.3.5 Andy. Rebooted after dalvic wipe. Itz running perfect. Installed s2e app . Moved app,private app, data, to ext.
I think that s2e is more efficient than dta2sd. It is faster, move almost every thing to ext. And internal memory consumption is quite low after app installations(when compared to dta2sd). Also booting and shut down are faster.
I will be watching for future errors. Thank you.
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