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Hello every one, a simple question, i have an iphone 3gs, and want to ask is it worth switching from iphone to desire hd ?
Iphone really bored me
ceva said:
Hello every one, a simple question, i have an iphone 3gs, and want to ask is it worth switching from iphone to desire hd ?
Iphone really bored me
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Simple answer Yes. This is my best phone yet.
just made the same switch, getting mine later today or tomorrow.. hope its not "android" lagging as engadget writes
anyone who says that this phone lags is a jack*ss. If you run a quadrant benchmark on the stock phone you get marks of around 2000 which beats a nexus one by around 600. I use the android revolution rom and get a score of around 2500. On linpack i get 75 megaflops. The "lagging" problem is solved by switching the usb debugging option on. This phone rocks!! With an adreno 205 graphics unit, 1 ghz processor(can be overclocked upto 1.53 ghz --- buzzoc) and 768 mb of ram..its the fastest phone on the market today
Yes, the hardware is top of the line on the DHD, but still im afraid of the OS, engadget (known Apple fans) wrote about the Naxus S -"touch response and general framerate on everything seems to be cranked closer to the vicinity of the iPhone 4....-with little of that Android-lag we've seen on earlier devices".
But after seeing some youtube clips on the DHD and not noticing any lagg what so ever, i ordered mine and hope that engadget just doesnt like Android in their reviews
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anyone who says that this phone lags is a jack*ss. If you run a quadrant benchmark on the stock phone you get marks of around 2000 which beats a nexus one by around 600. I use the android revolution rom and get a score of around 2500. On linpack i get 75 megaflops. The "lagging" problem is solved by switching the usb debugging option on. This phone rocks!! With an adreno 205 graphics unit, 1 ghz processor(can be overclocked upto 1.53 ghz --- buzzoc) and 768 mb of ram..its the fastest phone on the market today
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75 MFLOPS? What have you done with your phone??? I have Android Revolution 1.8 with the 1.1.1 Buzz Kernel 1,51Ghz running on Performance Mode (SetCPU) and I get around 53 MFLOPS ... ??
tvoben said:
just made the same switch, getting mine later today or tomorrow.. hope its not "android" lagging as engadget writes
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there is a bug called the init bug causing the lag, all you need to do is enable usb debugging mode from the development menu and it will go away for good, also animated live wallpaper are known to slow things down a notch, so leave that off
all android froyo phones after few days of usage might drop speed so when this happens all you need is to make a restart and it will be very fast again, the reboot takes a moment, also you should know this speed drop is not reflected inside the apps, only the main interface and it only happens when you've been using the phone heavily for a couple of days without a restart
gingerbread is said to have an app garbish cleaning mechanism that should hopefully fix this issue, HTC updated/updating its desire, legend and wildfire to froyo, so you should expect their flagship DHD to get the gingerbread update first
otherwise phone is blazing fast, fastest android phone on the block, equal or faster than the nexus S (the 2nd gen snapdragon is very optimized plus higher IO and more RAM, highly overclockable)
the GPU is also fast in theory the nexus S should be faster but all test are showing better results from the DHD's adreno 205 GPU, it runs quake 2 at 45-60fps, neocore at 58FPS, nenamark at 42FPS
Thanks for answers guys. I will switch my iphone tomorrow for this baby dhd
ceva said:
Thanks for answers guys. I will switch my iphone tomorrow for this baby dhd
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good choice
lots of info in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864393
If I'm iphone4 user, I will not think twice to get the dhd. HTC ftw!
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I agree, DHD is a great phone (I come from Nokia and there is a huge difference), my best phone yet...
Try4Ce said:
75 MFLOPS? What have you done with your phone??? I have Android Revolution 1.8 with the 1.1.1 Buzz Kernel 1,51Ghz running on Performance Mode (SetCPU) and I get around 53 MFLOPS ... ??
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Well in setcpu .. in the performance mode increase max and min level both to maximum possible ...( i use the buzzoc 1.55 kernal ... that gives me 75 mflops)
EDIT: well and restart your phone before you run linpack
There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Definitely yes for me. Previously I was using Windows Mobile 6.5
tvoben said:
There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Try it without rooting first to see if you really need the DHD rooted. I have rooted mine but to be honest I still haven't done anything that needs root access. The OS gives you the opportunity to install non-market apps, so unless you want a custom ROM or overclocking, it makes little sense to root it. And if you decide to do it anyway, there are some good step-by-step guides in the development section on how to do it safely.
Anyway - enjoy your new phone! I know I do
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Okey. Might be wrong place to ask, but on my dhd the screen is beneith the case, hence my finger makes a sound against it while I swipe left if right.
Is it just mine or is it the design. ?
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Okey. Might be wrong place to ask, but on my dhd the screen is beneith the case, hence my finger makes a sound against it while I swipe left if right.
Is it just mine or is it the design. ?
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It's the design. The point in this is to keep it from scratching the screen while put upside-down. And if you install a screen protector, it lies completely inside that space, so it's leveled with the heightened "lip".
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There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Look what you can do though, its worth it
And yes it is a DHD
Awesome phone i got it today. But i can't really find some instructions how to install some theme or skin witch are at theme section, i know that my phone need to be ruted and all that, but can some one trow me few links with instructions please ? Thanks
Iphone might be more user friendly but android is more customisable. Plus desire hd has great hardware. Iphone is for followers, android is for leaders.
If you're a nerd and like to fiddle, android is for you, otherwise, stick to apple.
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hey guys, the quadrant score my rooted froyo i5801 is only a pathetic 289.... is there something wrong with my phone? any ways i can make it go higher?
thanks.
aeonstorm said:
hey guys, the quadrant score my rooted froyo i5801 is only a pathetic 289.... is there something wrong with my phone? any ways i can make it go higher?
thanks.
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Yes...You can check out lagfix and that bring the score to around 550 - 560
jaskiratsingh said:
Yes...You can check out lagfix and that bring the score to around 550 - 560
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thats by the way do nothing... stay with your score, it doesnt matter anyway
I see thanks guys. haha because seeing the phone at the bottom of the ranking feels kinda crappy. how does the lagfix work? i read the threads but they seem to screw up the phone in certain ways
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I see thanks guys. haha because seeing the phone at the bottom of the ranking feels kinda crappy. how does the lagfix work? i read the threads but they seem to screw up the phone in certain ways
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There's loads of "lag fixes" out there, designed to speed up the phone from perceived laginess. Some seem to do nothing more than inflate test score numbers (like Quadrant).
Do not worry about the score of one application. The true tests lie within the hands of the user. Are you happy with the phone? If not, then maybe it's time to upgrade to froyo, or a custom cooked ROM of Froyo.
Guys i have good news the samsung galaxy sl gets more quadrant than the S
on same tweaks
proof:watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXk84fKXAVQ&feature=colike
o f.... I have to commit suicide
same specs on both but diffrent gpu/cpu, and honestly i prefer super amoled before super lcd
sl did not had a lock on gps - the gps icon blinked on both = gps deamon was still searching fix means you gd preloaded location on sl - changing ntp server basicly does not impact gps performance
galaxy s on some shoots seems to have autobrighteness on so screen goes darker
Galaxy sl is trim down version of galaxy s i9000 so even if it gets 100000 quadrant score still it can't beat super amoled screen and hummingbird processor in real world
No both were at full brightness it's an unbiased review we in the end we conclude that s is better but i was surprised sl got a better score in quadrant
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i would like to see cfbench runed on both - ofc clean phone, latest stock firmware no rooting no kernels nothin
and a real gps test comparisment of both lined on window ledge (because none will fix indoors) with wirless networks aiding deactivated
best would be first gps run after flashing stock firmwares for both
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i would like to see cfbench runed on both - ofc clean phone, latest stock firmware no rooting no kernels nothin
and a real gps test comparisment of both lined on window ledge (because none will fix indoors) with wirless networks aiding deactivated
best would be first gps run after flashing stock firmwares for both
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Check my signature for part 1 which has stock firmware test
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ok so the quadrant score on second was boosted by well known tweaks to boost quadrant score - well useless test then =)
anyways i would like to se cfbench on both and a real gps test, still you have blinking gps icon = that means no fix
$omator said:
ok so the quadrant score on second was boosted by well known tweaks to boost quadrant score - well useless test then =)
anyways i would like to se cfbench on both and a real gps test, still you have blinking gps icon = that means no fix
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In the first the sl had a beta gingerbread tom which had a bug where quadrant and other application never made use of,in the second a fixed firmware is used and cf root is applied on both, if u still have trouble believing me FYI the slowly uses a omap similar to the droid x,as we all know a stock droid x has been getting a better score than the s you can observe that in the comparison chart by quadrant,as with your query ill be making a part 3 soon with cf bench.
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and please not root at all - cfroot also aplies some tuning on the flash
just pure stock
Oh my god, it's such a dumb-a$$ rewiev, bad english and even worse cam. And it's all just a difference in the firmware. If you trimm the galaxy with a custom rom and may overclock your phone to 1,6ghz then you will get 3600+ in quadrant, does it matter? no, quadrant isnt a real benchmark with that you can compare a phone, its just image, nothin less.
And the sgsl has a super-lcd screen, which totally sucks true story Super-AMOLED ist the superior type of display.
It's quadrant... It doesn't mean anything.
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Oh my god, it's such a dumb-a$$ rewiev, bad english and even worse cam. And it's all just a difference in the firmware. If you trimm the galaxy with a custom rom and may overclock your phone to 1,6ghz then you will get 3600+ in quadrant, does it matter? no, quadrant isnt a real benchmark with that you can compare a phone, its just image, nothin less.
And the sgsl has a super-lcd screen, which totally sucks true story Super-AMOLED ist the superior type of display.
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Quadrant does not mean anything,did you watch the whole video?,galaxy s was the winner in the end,as with my accent im sorry for the inconvenience.
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but still i would like to see cfbench numbers =)
Install latest clean rom on both devices and compare browsing speed, games apps ,and than upload a video
alexx910 said:
Oh my god, it's such a dumb-a$$ rewiev, bad english and even worse cam. And it's all just a difference in the firmware. If you trimm the galaxy with a custom rom and may overclock your phone to 1,6ghz then you will get 3600+ in quadrant, does it matter? no, quadrant isnt a real benchmark with that you can compare a phone, its just image, nothin less.
And the sgsl has a super-lcd screen, which totally sucks true story Super-AMOLED ist the superior type of display.
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I guess you are the only guy who thing Cannon EOS D7 is a "worse cam"
Its one of the best DSLR out there!!
phzi said:
It's quadrant... It doesn't mean anything.
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this. this and this.
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yamchirobe said:
Quadrant does not mean anything,did you watch the whole video?,galaxy s was the winner in the end,as with my accent im sorry for the inconvenience.
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Well dude, sry for being so unfriendly Wasnt meant that way Of course you could improve your english a bit by stayin in contact with english-speaking people Thats my way to improve the language.
But actually its all up to the firmware of the phone. one year ago sgs was so bad in quadrant. It had always something about 800-1000 points. Not more. But with some work on the firmware by the sammy dev's they improved the jit compiler and now the phone beats even the nexus one and so on on the scale. I had my phone powered up to 3600 score with using darkys rom and a great kernel (1,6ghz). But actually it doesnt really matter...
The most important thing is, that you can use your phone as you want If your sgsl doesnt lag, its great. But the development is a little bit slow atm.
ciao dude
Yawns, I enjoy my Galaxy S gingerbread speed. If it'd go any faster, I'd have to run (and recharge the phone even more often).
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
cuzzo94 said:
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Were both ROMs nand or SD? Cause the difference could be in the io speeds. You should post screen shots of both results
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Yes it's normal because the phone devotes more resources to hwa, which is what makes your games fast. Phones get relatively lower quadrant score on ics. So it's not accurate to compare it if you changed os version. If you want, you can easily boost the score by ~1000 by installing data2sd, but you need a good SD card to feel the difference yourself.
cuzzo94 said:
Hi! i made a benchmark on the hd2 both with android froyo and ics hwa and i noticed that the rom with the higest point is the froyo one! i got 1100 for the ics and ~1400 for the froyo one, wich beated also the nexus s.
this is really strange because the gaming performances of froyo are terrible (i had ~2-3 fps with gta3), and it's also slow with the sense 2 homescreen management.
is this normal? thanks
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Really?! Just goes to show, benchmarks aren't a valid way of proving speed. Perhaps it is as hengsheng120 said due to the HWA or something. Either way, ICS is definitely faster than Froyo.
yes as said, for me too ics is faster thank froyo, i just wasn't sure of the reason of this gap.
i don't think that it wold make any difference installing data2sd because of my old sd.
i agree with who thinks that hwa is making this difference, and that is an invalid information to compare OS's. ics is certainly faster with scrolling (the web browsing it's awesome) and 3d.
thank you all and sorry for my english XD
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yes as said, for me too ics is faster thank froyo, i just wasn't sure of the reason of this gap.
i don't think that it wold make any difference installing data2sd because of my old sd.
i agree with who thinks that hwa is making this difference, and that is an invalid information to compare OS's. ics is certainly faster with scrolling (the web browsing it's awesome) and 3d.
thank you all and sorry for my english XD
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Actually, your English is pretty good. Yeah, even if I could get a score of 10000 on Froyo I'd never consider ditching ICS for it
yes while using them you can clearly see that ics beats froyo all the way XD
hello guys my question is ... im goign to get a S4 soon... but i want to know if the CPu can overclock? im goign to get the Quad-Core Version cuz the International Version is to expensive.. so i want to know if this NEW S600 CPU will be Overclockable? like the CPU of the Droid DNA?
Why would you want to do so? It's fast enough as it is. But to answer your question yes. When you can do it. No idea.
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darkhelio said:
hello guys my question is ... im goign to get a S4 soon... but i want to know if the CPu can overclock? im goign to get the Quad-Core Version cuz the International Version is to expensive.. so i want to know if this NEW S600 CPU will be Overclockable? like the CPU of the Droid DNA?
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It will be for sure possible but remember that the device already throttles on stock speed.
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It will be for sure possible but remember that the device already throttles on stock speed.
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i think he wants to be Antutu world champion
darkhelio said:
hello guys my question is ... im goign to get a S4 soon... but i want to know if the CPu can overclock? im goign to get the Quad-Core Version cuz the International Version is to expensive.. so i want to know if this NEW S600 CPU will be Overclockable? like the CPU of the Droid DNA?
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Yes, you can Overclock it. 2.1 GHz should be great (and maybe 22 GHz)
sadekmefti said:
Yes, you can Overclock it. 2.1 GHz should be great (and maybe 22 GHz)
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thanks thats what i want to know just need to wait and see when we are goign to be able to do it
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thanks thats what i want to know just need to wait and see when we are goign to be able to do it
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I can see why people would want to overclock. To achieve max pimped out status on their phone like mine
phownage said:
I can see why people would want to overclock. To achieve max pimped out status on their phone like mine
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Can you make a youtube video of the phone actually performing such an AnTuTu test? You could be very popular! :good:
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I can see why people would want to overclock. To achieve max pimped out status on their phone like mine
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jesus ! XD omg XD i will get the Octa-Core Better when is not that overpriced i onlu have 624 dollrs i will get more to see if i can get it
Phone already has heat issues and overclocking will blow it
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even the OCta Core? i mean i think i has more Overclock power 1.6 is not the max frequenci
Is there any more on this? I am interested in getting a little bit more speed...
Seriously guys. No matter how much we clock our s4's. We know that the real life result is actually what matters. I am not very happy to tell you guys that iphone5 with 2 cores runs smoother and opens apps faster than my s4. Specially the camera , dialer and gallery app. However when it comes to in app load times and raw processing, the s4 has the edge.
I am already having overheat issues on my i9500. Can't even think about over clocking it. Instead, I was think of some under clock.
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Seriously guys. No matter how much we clock our s4's. We know that the real life result is actually what matters. I am not very happy to tell you guys that iphone5 with 2 cores runs smoother and opens apps faster than my s4. Specially the camera , dialer and gallery app. However when it comes to in app load times and raw processing, the s4 has the edge.
I am already having overheat issues on my i9500. Can't even think about over clocking it. Instead, I was think of some under clock.
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that has to do with android OS not samsung everything u open it first time , reopen it see how fast it will be
I see some of you guys are saying the S4 has over heating issues... BUT what is considered to be over heating? at what temp?
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I see some of you guys are saying the S4 has over heating issues... BUT what is considered to be over heating? at what temp?
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If we talk about cpu temp then I can't tell you but even the battery temp reaches above 55 to 60 for some users. In real life usage. It gets too hot to place it against our ear for a call.
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If we talk about cpu temp then I can't tell you but even the battery temp reaches above 55 to 60 for some users. In real life usage. It gets too hot to place it against our ear for a call.
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Oh if it thats I dont have to worry...
Both S4 versions have plenty of power. I'm more interested in undervolting for extra battery life.
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Both S4 versions have plenty of power. I'm more interested in undervolting for extra battery life.
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There is already custom kernel faux that allow cpu freq and voltage modifications
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You just want to be the Benchmark World Champion, don't ya ?
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