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Different versions of galaxy note

Samwung galaxy note comes with sooo many version...
There is the original version in 1.4 ghz processor
A korean version (like mine) packed with 1.5ghz processor, 4G LTE, a tv module and a bit thicker compared to the original
And I saw another one, galaxy note with no physical button... just 4 old school touch bottons
its really confusing and disappointing that samsung is like selling different kinds of phone in one name. And with that, its so hard to customize it because of major hardware differences..
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Can anyone explain why Is this happening?
I tried to search but there is no specific thread with answers. Starting a thread would be better I guess.
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The home market will always get the LTE with the TV module version. Thats what they did with the SGS II as well.
The 1.4 Ghz version with the physical home button is their international version which is sold ALL OVER aside from the U.S.
the "Old School" 4 Button one you refer to is the U.S version. Its specified that all devices they sell will have the 4 capacitive buttons to follow a schema. Also the U.S version will get a Snapdragon processor. As to the reason behind why the diff processor is unknown to me. I am sure there is some tie up or standard set behind that.
Same was the case with the SGS II variants. Aside from the ATT version of the original SGS II (not Skyrocket).
Majority of the people wont MOD their device and those who do, will come to XDA to obtain the proper MOD / ROM for their specific device.

The buttonless version it's the US at&t LTE note. Basically the same as your Korean.
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The reason Qualcomm CPU is used is because it supports 4G LTE, and the Samsung Exynos does not. Sadly the 1.5Ghz Qualcomm CPU is considerably slower than the Exynos chip. Qualcomm is Cortex A8 chip, Exynos 4210 is Cortex A9 chip, which is more effective and faster.

dhruvmalik said:
The home market will always get the LTE with the TV module version. Thats what they did with the SGS II as well.
The 1.4 Ghz version with the physical home button is their international version which is sold ALL OVER aside from the U.S.
the "Old School" 4 Button one you refer to is the U.S version. Its specified that all devices they sell will have the 4 capacitive buttons to follow a schema. Also the U.S version will get a Snapdragon processor. As to the reason behind why the diff processor is unknown to me. I am sure there is some tie up or standard set behind that.
Same was the case with the SGS II variants. Aside from the ATT version of the original SGS II (not Skyrocket).
Majority of the people wont MOD their device and those who do, will come to XDA to obtain the proper MOD / ROM for their specific device.
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Hmmmm its USA.... I guess patent copyright issues? Lol
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Its not an att note. Its north American, Canada is getting the exact same version on all 3 major carriers BEFORE att even gets it. So call it north American or i717.
And why its different from n7000? Because samsungs CPU doesn't support lte. So they have to use a different CPU till they have a working lte exynos cpu.
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aniphreak said:
Hmmmm its USA.... I guess patent copyright issues?
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Pardon me, but I have a patent on that type of sarcasm. You will pay me a 1 USD royalty on each person that reads this, and you will cease and desist making sarcastic remarks.

aniphreak said:
Samwung galaxy note comes with sooo many version...
There is the original version in 1.4 ghz processor
A korean version (like mine) packed with 1.5ghz processor, 4G LTE, a tv module and a bit thicker compared to the original
And I saw another one, galaxy note with no physical button... just 4 old school touch bottons
its really confusing and disappointing that samsung is like selling different kinds of phone in one name. And with that, its so hard to customize it because of major hardware differences..
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I read lots of Korean galaxy note forum through internet and lots of people in Korea have bought international version of galaxy note because of the hardware differences and other reason is that Korean version of note comes with LTE which is amazingly fast. I mean its super fast as I saw the demo of it but you have to pay a price for it!! since its just started recently. However, because its new and there are lots of places in korea where LTE coverage is an issue as well and that is why lot of people have bought international version of note as 3g data plan is unlimited whereas LTE is not...

Samsung made so many editions. Does 1.4g CPU 2- core and 1.5g one 1-core?

I live in Montreal where Rogers is one of the first to start lte. Definitely already using it on skyrocket. Can't wait to get my note in 2 days haay.
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Sarius24 said:
I live in Montreal where Rogers is one of the first to start lte. Definitely already using it on skyrocket. Can't wait to get my note in 2 days haay.
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I live in Montreal too, but don't have a lte device yet so I cant wait to get my hands on a note and see what this speed is all about
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Lucky you to have LTE deployed. In France we have to wait another two years for a reasonable deployment.
It will leave me enought time to play with my non-LTE Note and wait for a quad-core LTE version ;-)

how can i read My CPU on the phone?
tnx

enobrec said:
how can i read My CPU on the phone?
tnx
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you are in the wrong section ...

mustang2012 said:
you are in the wrong section ...
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..mmmhh..not at all
i wanna know some information about my processor(CPU)..1.4?...1.5?
In this 3d i read about different processor on different NoteS ..
so i am simply interested about my Note Version...looking at the processor...
how can i know what processor i have?
there is a menu option?

enobrec said:
..mmmhh..not at all
i wanna know some information about my processor(CPU)..1.4?...1.5?
In this 3d i read about different processor on different NoteS ..
how can i know what processor i have?
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LTE = 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon Dual core
Non LTE = 1.4GHz Exynos Dual core

ah..ok..tnxx...

dhruvmalik said:
... Also the U.S version will get a Snapdragon processor. As to the reason behind why the diff processor is unknown to me. I am sure there is some tie up or standard set behind that...
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Well snapdragon has the advantage of LTE and is more battery efficient.
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andrawer said:
Well snapdragon has the advantage of LTE and is more battery efficient.
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Snapdragon may be more battery efficient (don't know, never heard that one) but LTE is apparently horrible on battery life! I will find out in a few days, lol...
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NTT Docomo's version for SGS3

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-specs-ntt-docomo-86272/
First of all, the Japanese version of the S3, codenamed SC-06D, will be powered by a dual-core 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8960 S4 processor. The “Krait” chipset will replace Samsung’s Exynos 4 Quad, set to power the S3’s international model. The main reason behind the substitution is the fact that NTT Docomo will offer Samsung’s new flagship with 4G LTE speeds and, as you may already know, quad core chipsets haven’t played nice with LTE. We suspected that the LTE-versions of the S3 would come with the MSM8960 chipset under their hood and, while it isn’t officially confirmed, we can now be almost certain that the US or Canadian models with 4G speeds will feature the same proc.
The second technical detail that will set the Japanese S3 version apart from the international model is the featuring of 2 GB of RAM. That’s right, ladies and gentlemen, LG’s Optimus LTE2 is no longer the only smartphone to come with 2 GB of RAM and Samsung’s SC-06D could steal the spotlight from the recently unveiled LG phone in Korea.
In terms of software, the Samsung SC-06D will run Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich with TouchWiz 4.0 UI on top, as well as with the “Docomo Palette UI”.

Huh. That would be pretty sweet.
Guess time will tell.
First time I've ever thought I wanted a month to end that much quicker!

why they keep screwing up international versions?
1st that tegra3 garbage on 1x and now 1gb vs 2gb of ram on gs3..

This is most likely the US version then !! S4 + 2GB is nice.

I would take the Exynos over the 2gb of ram any day
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so, are there any US carriers that the japenese version would work on?

Most likely you would be limited to WCDMA connectivity if you privately imported one of these. (Unlocking is not a problem, DoCoMo unlocks brand new phones no question asked, just pony up 3150 yen)
International LTE bands are a total mess. Over 40 unique band allocations at last count.
I am holding onto my SII until the fallout of how similar/different the hardware ends up being with respect to custom rom development gets figured out. (DoCoMo SII was similar enough to the standard I9100 for most roms to be tweaked into working, though there were digital-TV and GPS issues and the partition sizing was a little different)

2Gb S3 for UK

Hi all,
I love the looks of the S3 but in the UK we have been given the short straw and they only come with 1Gb of RAM.
I want one with 2Gb of RAM and so I'm wondering if anyone knows which countries sell 2Gb models that are compatible with UK standards etc?
Thanks

Searching would help but Korea is the only quad 2 gig ram I know of and not sure of anything else but there is a thread on this topic
Edit us and Canada are 2 gig ram but dual core but assume carrier locked ?
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The Korean version does indeed seem to "have it all".
I dont know enough about phone spectrums etc to know if it would be fully compatible with the UK networks?
Also, anyone have any idea where you could buy one from?

I do not think it will from what I'm reading
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Theoretically, the korean one would work here but only on wcdma 2100 band i think...
Its very questionable how much success you would have with it as i believe it is incompatible with all 2g networks in the uk.
What i would say though is that having used the 1gb uk model for a week and a half, i dont see there being any real benefit to having 2gb of ram. Even on the stock rom (which is massive and heavy going) with everything running and power useage i havent come close to anything more than 650mb ram used at once.
My advice would be that it probably isnt worth the hassle, risk of it not working, or expense importing a 2gb model at all.
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I've had no issues with 1gig ram. The phone can show high ram usage but haven't ever notices it effect performance.
When running some big processes / apps the phone kills background tasks to free up ram. I know it does because when I back out and check ram usage it is usually much lower than normal.
On the S2 when I'd connect it to HDMI, after removing ram usage would be around 200. Much less than the usual 400-500.
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you really dont need more than 1gb .. RAM is there to be used and functions and does its job better when you are using as much as the RAM as possible .... off topic them RAM cleaners should be taken off all markets

Does anyone have any official information on this Korean Quad Core 2GB? I remember the source being a rumor mill, and then they switched the rumor mill to saying parts of Korea would have both the S4 or Exynos. What's the truth?

Korean Rumor
It is unlikely the korean market has the quad core with 2gb ram.
The only distinction right now between 1gb and 2gb has to do with the CPU.
If you look at the ifixit teardown of the phone (can't post links yet sorry), you can see that the RAM is directly incorporated on the board with the CPU. Does that mean it's possible for them to do a separate production line and get a Exynos 4412 (quad core) with 2GB of ram? Absolutely. Does it make sense from a business standpoint? Not at all. If they did run a completely separate manufacturing process on the boards for a quad core with 2gb of ram, it would be silly due to the return on investment to only release it in one market.
So if you see a GS3 with 2GB of ram, it mostlikely has the snapdragon dual core chip, not a quad core. As it's been stated earlier, the most probably culprit to the rumor is that Koreans would have the possibility of getting either model in their market (which you can in the US as well, if you don't buy it directly from the carriers).

Reason why the us versions even has 2 gigs is the processor. Snapdragon with lte requires more ram in normal use and in a situation where 1 gig isn't enough they have to bump it to 2 as phone only has one memory moudule and memory sizes goes 512Mb 1gb 2gb 4gb and so on..
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nebusoft said:
It is unlikely the korean market has the quad core with 2gb ram.
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So if you see a GS3 with 2GB of ram, it mostlikely has the snapdragon dual core chip, not a quad core. As it's been stated earlier, the most probably culprit to the rumor is that Koreans would have the possibility of getting either model in their market (which you can in the US as well, if you don't buy it directly from the carriers).
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You should catch up on news before posting something like this. Samsung has confirmed that the korean market will soon be getting a sgs3 with quadcore exynos, 2GB of RAM and LTE (and a part number of SHV-E210S.) One of the points of the release was to explain that the LTE modem would be a seperate chip and that this variant of the phone would be slightly thicker (by 1/2mm) than the other sgs3's.
Take care
Gary

Yeah, thats the exact details I read and from the full paged details it seems like it is going to support nearly all networks out there:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ersion-with-2GB-of-RAM-only-for-Korea_id31033

Whats the obsession with RAM? We don't need any more. The Korean exynos is pointless IMHO.
RAM is used to keep system and user files or applications and services that are regularly used close at hand for quick access.
Unused RAM is useless RAM. with 2GB to be used effectively, it's going to have to be caching apps you haven't used since last Thursday. What's the point in that? I sincerely doubt the device with 2gb will feel faster as a result.
Increasing RAM doesn't increase speed. In decreases slow down ... in systems that don't have enough. Yet we do..
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The US At&t version will work in the UK once unlocked.

rootSU said:
Whats the obsession with RAM? We don't need any more. The Korean exynos is pointless IMHO.
RAM is used to keep system and user files or applications and services that are regularly used close at hand for quick access.
Unused RAM is useless RAM. with 2GB to be used effectively, it's going to have to be caching apps you haven't used since last Thursday. What's the point in that? I sincerely doubt the device with 2gb will feel faster as a result.
Increasing RAM doesn't increase speed. In decreases slow down ... in systems that don't have enough. Yet we do..
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Future proofing I suppose. After the phone stops receiving updates, it would still be possible to put some of the latest software on it that will be more resource-demanding via third party developers. The duel core Krait and the quad core Exynos really don't show any difference in real world usage. Those that it does can be quite negligible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XmfQZoYqbY&list=UUO_vmeInQm5Z6dEZ6R5Kk0A&index=10&feature=plcp

adz63 said:
you really dont need more than 1gb .. RAM is there to be used and functions and does its job better when you are using as much as the RAM as possible .... off topic them RAM cleaners should be taken off all markets
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I remember people saying this about quad core when the s2 came out.

8 core S4?

If I remember right the S4 was to get an 8 core version, probably not coming to the US.
Does anyone know that if I get one from over seas will it work right on T-Mobile?

It'll work, but maybe just with edge (2G) in many of T-Mobile's markets (the ones that primarily use 1700/2100).
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iv-5125.php
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mybook4 said:
It'll work, but maybe just with edge (2G) in many of T-Mobile's markets (the ones that primarily use 1700/2100).
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iv-5125.php
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I thought that T-Mobile was very heavy on 1900 as well.

knitler said:
I thought that T-Mobile was very heavy on 1900 as well.
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T-Mobile is in the process of refarming HSPA+ from 1700/2100 to 1900 in order to free up spectrum for 1700/2100 LTE. It's possible that you could be in an area that has a lot of 1900 HSPA coverage. Check out airportal.de for sightings of T-Mobile 1900 HSPA around your area.
You might just be better off getting a Nexus 4 or HTC One. Those devices are less expensive, fully support T-Mobile's current network, and run a quad core Krait chip (Qualcomm's variant of the A15). I personally prefer the clean stock android feel (i.e. AOSP based ROMs), so I'd get the Nexus 4. The HTC One and Galaxy S4 will probably get working AOSP based ROMs, but it'll take a little while (~ a couple months) before they become fairly stable.
From my understanding, although the Octa chip from Samsung has 8 cores, it only uses up to 4 at a time. The "little" A7 cores are meant to decrease power consumption (i.e. increase battery life) by filling in for the "big" A15 cores during certain load situations. If I'm mistaken, feel free to correct.
The Adreno GPU in the quad core krait is great. It's not quite as fast as the Octa, but you would only notice a difference on the most intensive games. Keep in mind that a mobile game developer has to keep older architectures in mind when creating a game. Anandtech does great write ups on mobile SOCs, so you might want to check out their reviews for more info.
Core count isn't everything. When the galaxy S III came out (my current device), Samsung released the international version with a quad core A9 with 1GB or RAM. The US version came with a dual core Krait (~A15) with 2GB of RAM. A lot of people were jonesing for the quad core version, but I was happy that Samsung used the dual core krait SOC. The increased RAM will make the US GS3 relevant for a longer time.
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knitler said:
Does anyone know that if I get one from over seas will it work right on T-Mobile?
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Instead of posting wall of words(no offense to anyone)let's stay on-topic.
4G won't work on the "8" core S4 ,you would need to get the quad core S4 for that.
And yeah Krait 300 isn't Qualcomm"s A15 alternative,A15's are still ahead in many things.

Is samsung misleading people in india

SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3.....Samsung publicize snapdragon 800 with 300 mhz -2.3 ghz and go on to sell exynos with 250 mhz -1.9 ghz i.e with lesser clock speed in india.
and also out of the so called octa core exynos only 4 cores works integration of the other four cores will happen in the latter stage....
samsung is clearly misleading people in india
and also the 4 k video is not available for this variant of galaxy note 3
Europe and western countries get the best of the variant whereas we guys get the regular dump....
Samsung are you listening........

Samsung and Qualcomm clock speeds are not directly comparable.
Although different, I'd say the difference in performance is negligible.
I believe the version that is sold in a particular country depends on regional marketing decision, notably the purchasing power and LTE coverage in respective country.
For example, here in SEA, Singapore and Malaysia get the Snapdragon LTE version (most expensive), while Indonesia gets Exynos non-LTE version (least expensive).
On the bright side, you get the most affordable version of Note 3.

paulodonfather said:
SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3.....Samsung publicize snapdragon 800 with 300 mhz -2.3 ghz and go on to sell exynos with 250 mhz -1.9 ghz i.e with lesser clock speed in india.
and also out of the so called octa core exynos only 4 cores works integration of the other four cores will happen in the latter stage....
samsung is clearly misleading people in india
and also the 4 k video is not available for this variant of galaxy note 3
Europe and western countries get the best of the variant whereas we guys get the regular dump....
Samsung are you listening........
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yes....all the demo devices in india r snapdragon n3 and samsung r selling exynos n3 in india....................

kannanX10 said:
yes....all the demo devices in india r snapdragon n3 and samsung r selling exynos n3 in india....................
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and obviously the exynos's lesser download speed compared to snapdragon 800 .......
please Samsung give us the best of true octa core... the speed of A15 with power efficency of A7..

paulodonfather said:
and obviously the exynos's lesser download speed compared to snapdragon 800 .......
please Samsung give us the best of true octa core... the speed of A15 with power efficency of A7..
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SAMSUNG Speak uppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11.........

This is actually the first time Europe actually doesn't get cheated this exact same way.
The S800 variant is the main version, except for countries that do not have LTE.
The S800 version was never announced for India. If you'd done a bit of reading, it'd have been obvious from well before the release. http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/15...agon-800-variant-sm-n9005-specs-confirmation/

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SAMSUNG Speak uppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11.........
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in greece is same problem. :crying:

ShadowLea said:
This is actually the first time Europe actually doesn't get cheated this exact same way.
The S800 variant is the main version, except for countries that do not have LTE.
The S800 version was never announced for India. If you'd done a bit of reading, it'd have been obvious from well before the release. http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/15...agon-800-variant-sm-n9005-specs-confirmation/
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Yes did my bit of reading EXYNOS OCTA CORE is the announcement but what we are essentially getting is EXYNOS QUAD CORE.. the A7 CORE Is yet to be integrated....A7 is where the power efficiency comes from.....

Samsung had released list of counties that would be getting Snapdragon and Exynos. Personally I would like the Exynos as it would be getting update that will enable it to run all the cores at the same time.

I think the exynos could save up more battery because of the octa core processor.
For me this is the most important part. But I've a snapdragon because they only sell this

willstay said:
Samsung had released list of counties that would be getting Snapdragon and Exynos. Personally I would like the Exynos as it would be getting update that will enable it to run all the cores at the same time.
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wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!
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Fulvian said:
I believe the version that is sold in a particular country depends on regional marketing decision, notably the purchasing power and LTE coverage in respective country.
For example, here in SEA, Singapore and Malaysia get the Snapdragon LTE version (most expensive), while Indonesia gets Exynos non-LTE version (least expensive).
On the bright side, you get the most affordable version of Note 3.
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I think this has more to do with profit margin of Samsung. Exynos being cheaper to produce. And not the purchasing power of consumers. If you look at the market, places where Snapdragon is released, people buy in subsidy paying $200. And places where Exynos is released, people buy paying the full price around $700 or more.

Samsung misleading...
SO i guess Samsung should be selling it as Exynos Quad core rather than Exynos Octa core
I guess its high time loyal Samsung users see thru this and look for alternatives.....
Paying a bomb for slower variant..!!!!! its a rip offffffff !!!!!!!!!

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wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!
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wrong! the note will be able to run at more than 4 core at a time after getting a heterogeneous multi processing update from samsung!

mayank shekhar said:
wrong! the note will be able to run at more than 4 core at a time after getting a heterogeneous multi processing update from samsung!
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wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!