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Anyone else using Juice Defender? I really liked the app on my hero, but it seems like it takes about 45 seconds or so after I unlock the phone for 3G data to resume. Is anyone else noticing this? It was fine on my Hero- possibly because it was so slow it took me longer than 45 seconds to open a program that used data.
yep, it appears that I have the same problem, although I normally don't use juicedefender to turn off 3g, just wifi.
I have the same exact issue and it caused me to cease using it. It did work, I noticed a pretty big increase in battery time. However the aggravation of waiting for data to turn back on was not worth it.
With my life style I always have a USB port or a car charger near me. Its the kind of application I will only enable when I know I will be out and about a lot.
I'm using juice and I'm getting 2x more battery life coz the 3g drains the battery even if you not using the phone
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I tried it but for some reason 4g wouldn't work and 3g took forever to enable. I uninstalled it. I'll try it again when the issues get resolved.
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4G doesn't work, but it only takes around 5 seconds to data to turn on for me when I turn on my screen.
It does seem a bit slow, but i mainly use juice defender for the 3g widget. Theres no other way to disable mobile networks on this phone and it fustrates me
Im getting more than a days worth of energy by cutting he mobile internet when not using it.. but id still be happier if juice defender worked faster so i wouldnt have to do it manually
Which part is it slow turning on? For me 3g turns on and off at very decent speeds. No more than about 5 seconds do I have to wait. (For auto data and manual data toggling)
Takes only about 5 to 10 second too turn back on 3g for me.
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Takes only about 5 to 10 second too turn back on 3g for me.
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same here.
i'm loving it. i'm getting, on average, 18 hrs per charge. i was getting 9 hrs before. cant wait for more updates
I love the program, but it is not allowing my e-mail to be checked using the built-in e-mail app. No email notifications is a killer for me, so I actually just uninstalled JD. Even tried the newer beta version with the "sync" option.
I don't know what all your experiences are, but I noticed the past few days that my epic is getting hot on the back.
I also noticed that my battery is draining more so than usual. When I got the update last week my battery life sucked, but now since this overheat thing it's gotten worse. It drops a lot even when in standby.
I do not have gps, wifi, anything else on. I am not rooted. Didn't do any battery tweaks. This is completely stock di18.
This is normal use with 3g. It's getting annoying and I'm hoping someone has an answer. Thanks!
Do you have any email accounts configured in the mail application?
This happened once or twice - I rebooted the phone and all was peachy.
Sounds like you have a rogue process wearin it out.
Yeah my phone overheated yesterday while charging....this phone has a few more steps to go before it really beats my hero...
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I partly found out what the problem was, but it seems you guys are ahead of me. I had some process keeping my CPU running at 95-100% nonstop. I still haven't figured out what the process was, as now it is back to the normal 5-15%, but I'll have to keep an eye on it now.
the task manager widget turns red and it shows you what process was causing it...for me it was the xda app...a few times.
I think my problem was not backing out of WordFeud. I didn't notice anything on the task manager though. Hasn't happened since that one time.
this happens to me when i'm plugged in and using gmail. screen flickers and then shuts off. the screen-off battery indicator shows the batt. gauge and a little thermometer sign next to it indicating it's too hot.
wtf?!?! this has to be a defect. anyway, is there any official word on this? any pr from sammy/sprint?
i have read elsewhere about some epics resetting themselves a few times a day which could indicate an issue with heating (at least on a pc). so if you think it might be hardware its possible. otherwise keep doing what your doing, monitor your processes for anything thats eating it up, go to about phone > battery use > cell standby to see your time without signal. the higher this is the more battery use. also, might want to consider a startup manager to prevent the 2 DRM files (search forums) from running as this can affect batt life too
you can also use setcpu even (free on here, search it) to throttle your cpu down when it hits a certain temp.
This is very interesting... My wife and I both have this phone, she has had this happen several times after the last update (I though she was just crazy). Me on the other hand... No problem!
I need to look into this a little deeper.
The only time my epic's battery gets hot is during heavy use or gps. Gps/Nav makes it heat up like a mofo. But other than that... *knocks on wood* Its all good, no problems. As far at battery life, I am rooted and using SetCPU to turn down the processor while the screen is off, helps a ton. Not using anything other than that... was using juicedefender but then I started not getting calls or text...
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One thing, I learned, that didn't help my battery was putting my phone in the locker at work. That thing must have killed my TWS and ate my battery alive.
i feel like this thread will start to die but i had a weird somewhat related issue last night. i too have had maybe 3-4 times where i woke up to my charging phone with the red LED and a screen that would not turn on, battery pull, worked fine.
however, THIS morning my phone would freeze like 30 seconds after boot EVERY time. tried a few things to no avail until I wiped, reinstalled my ROM (aosp 0.4.1) and the data from a previous backup (which was the way i got that ROM to first boot successfully according to tips in that thread).
so this worked, but i couldnt figure out why my other steps wouldnt. had to be something in the data partition of my system at the time, since changing that worked. the only thing i could think of is that app watchdog which someone mentioned to track processor usage by apps. anyone else ever experience this?
I have experienced this once when I was playing Robodefense while the phone was charging. My phone tends to get a little warm when it charges, and hot if I run something intensive while its charging. Wondering if this will be an issue when I use this phone for GPS nav while plugged into my car.
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"I'm having this problem too...I didn't get any warranty for this either. Any reasons onto why this is happening...I woke up this morning and picked up my burning phone lol the temp was at 50C so I took out the battery and let it sit for 15 mins...it went down to 30C, then after not touching it for another 15..it was at 17C...very odd...what should I do, this crap is going to die within the next hour I'm worried it will fry the hard drive or something. Need help! " - I wrote this on a diff. forum a couple days ago
I dont have anything on, no wifi, gps, or any 4g (lol only if I could find it)...I even got rid of my facebook/twitter/weather updater widgets. The only thing that updates is email, and that's only if I click on it. The battery has been dying a lot faster and I charge my phone next to the window now because its like 20 degrees outside here in Chicago, so that brings down my phones temp lol....and today, my phone's battery life went from 100 to 5 percent in about three hours of barely using it...wtf?!
Also, another problem...sometimes when I lock my phone and unlock it after taking it out my pocket or something, the screen doesn't seem to respond...I keep swiping my finger over it to put in my password and it wont do anything and it only works when I slide up my phone for the horizontal view. This happens like 4 out of every 10 times I open phone.
Very embarrassing especially if your trying to get someones number down, I stopped showing off the phone now ...lol
Hello peeps,
During the last couple of days I've read up a lot on the topic of battery drain. The reason is that a few weeks ago I could go for days without charging my phone with minimum usage with data traffic and gps turned on, display set to auto adjust the brightness etc. I basically didn't take any extreme ways to save my battery, as I simply didn't need to. But then I flashed Doc's and Stefunel's latest rom, with hardcore's kernel and all that. You know, pretty standard, nothing special. DTJP3 modem, the standard one for Australia. Was great for a start.
But then the horror began, after about a week. I've noticed that the up/download arrows are pretty much constantly glowing up there, and the battery drains in hours! I can't notice that my data usage have gone up a lot though. So I've tried that battery settings wipe thingy and some other stuff. Changed modem to JPY, which is also supposed to work in Australia (Even better from what I've heard). And sure, feels like I might have a bar or two better in reception. But the upload/download is still constantly on.
This is when I tried turning that of. I turned of data usage, gps, bluetooth, wifi, set brightness to lowest and downloaded Battery Snap. So with everything turned off, my battery dropped an average of ~0.5%/hour without usage. SWEET! Then I turned on data usage, and nothing more. It dropped 23% for the first hour, and 13 for the next half hour. Didn't think about actually checking the temp, but it was warm. Like when you use it.
This turned out to be an awful lot of text for just this question, but what could be the problem? Is there any way to check what's leaking? I've got SGS email on push only, no task killer, WiFi turned of, so those can't possibly be leaking, could it?
about 5% per hr here with data on, may be you got something in behind hog the cpu an keep sendibg data
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Sounds like an app keeping data connection on. Try kill all apps, look on the services and kill the ones which are not nessesary.
I get ~ 1.5% per hour drain with mail sync every 30min with 3g on ...
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Yes, 1-5% per hr is pretty much what I'm looking for, and had before. It's definitely not CPU, as I've got OSmonitor, and nothing shows up there as hogging it.
I'll try killing app after app through OSmonitor, thanks for that tip.
Oh, and btw, I turned data usage off during night. It has dropped 1% in 9 hours now
That was easy
com.seven.Z7.service is the villain here. Isn't that the SGS email client? Even though I have push? Thought that wouldn't be a problem then...
com.seven.Z7.service kept starting again, but the I went into "Settings -> Apps -> Manage Apps" and killed Social Hub. Voila! It worked. Even though I started Social Hub up again after, it worked. Weird... Or, not 100% sure yet, but so far it works. will check the battery drainage first in a few hours
Good have you have probably found it! One sidenote i have stopped using the sgs email client since i had the problem that new emails werent showing up ... i switched to k9 - you can try this if the problem stays ...
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Oh, that might be an option. But, ye, we'll see if it works. If not, I'll consider K9
Thanks for helping me find the problem.
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Oh, that might be an option. But, ye, we'll see if it works. If not, I'll consider K9
Thanks for helping me find the problem.
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Had the same problem with my SGH-959d (Telus Fascinate). Tracked down the culprit with Droidwall and then found your post. Killed the process through manage apps like you did and same results. Pulling battery didn't work, changing sync settings either so thanks a million for this!
I had a similar problem with my battery graph nose diving. I only realised my data was going through the roof when I started getting 'your are using to much data' text from my operator.
What I found helped was going into Settings->Privacy and turn off 'Back up my data'
Now I get I can go a day without charge. Instead of and hour and a bit... would be interesting to know if it helps you?
(On XXJVO no mods)
good tip about back up... but what do we loose?
A nice tip could be turn 2g/3g on/off when need it. Its a good way of saving battery.
I too am curious as to what id lost if we turn off back up data
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Got my GS2 on Friday. Charged it when I got home to full before turning it on for the first time.
Getting a bit less than 10hrs of battery life, which isn't too bad, but use hasn't been strenuous, so not thrilled.
I looked at the battery usage and WiFi Sharing has been chewing through my battery. When I was first setting up my phone I configured it, as I do use, but haven't since turned it on, or connected to it from my laptop.
When I started writing this new thread I see there is another thread on the Optimus 2x doing the same thing. Is this a bug in Android with Dual Core CPUs?
Wifi Sharing (mobile hotspot) is a battery hog on any Android device. Thats just the reality of a good feature.
Wifi sharing is a mega power-hog, as it is essentially making a base-station from your phone. So a lot of power is used as the wifi will be in use fairly heavily.
Same on every device. Hero used to get quite warm using wifi tether.
That's surprisingly good battery life for leaving wifi sharing on.. a 10 hour wifi hotspot from a phone is about the best you can get. Not even sure if those portable wifi routers get that kind of battery life.
Yes, I know it can use a huge amount of battery. But I haven't been using it. I configured it (ie, put in my WPA key, the same one I had on my Nexus One) so I could use it, but then turned it off.
I shutdown my phone last night (took out SD card to copy a bunch of music over quickly). Since I turned the phone back on, I haven't even been into the wifi sharing menu and it's used 15% of the battery.
I will try removing the config and see if it crops up again in the list tomorrow.
Cheers, Tim.
I also have this, but do not use the feature, nor do I start it, but it still keeps appearing.
Any advice?
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Yes, I know it can use a huge amount of battery. But I haven't been using it. I configured it (ie, put in my WPA key, the same one I had on my Nexus One) so I could use it, but then turned it off.
I shutdown my phone last night (took out SD card to copy a bunch of music over quickly). Since I turned the phone back on, I haven't even been into the wifi sharing menu and it's used 15% of the battery.
I will try removing the config and see if it crops up again in the list tomorrow.
Cheers, Tim.
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It sounds like you might have left it enabled - mine is disabled and does not use up any battery.
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That's surprisingly good battery life for leaving wifi sharing on.. a 10 hour wifi hotspot from a phone is about the best you can get. Not even sure if those portable wifi routers get that kind of battery life.
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This is the problem. Wifi sharing is off. I configured it, but it is off. I 'forced exited' it from from the battery usage menu after I saw it, but at some point it started again.
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This is the problem. Wifi sharing is off. I configured it, but it is off. I 'forced exited' it from from the battery usage menu after I saw it, but at some point it started again.
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Force exit won't do anything, it will just start up again. Make sure the checkbox is disabled. If it is disabled, try enable it and then disable it.
Can't seem to replicate it here - when I disable the checkbox it turns off.
The same thing happened to me. I configured the sharing never turned it on and it was killing my battery. I checked a million times that sharing was not active but it made no difference the service was always running. Killing the service didn't work it kept coming back. I did a full hard reset and haven't setup sharing since and it has yet to be an issue.
Kinda sucks as I need this feature. This did not happen in my atrix which is a dual core phone aswell.
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Yeah, I will keep an eye on it tomorrow. I wonder if it is a conflict between Kies and wifi sharing.
Thanks for all the replies. Definitely looks like I'm not the only one who has seen it.
Cheers, Tim.
Same problem here...
Never set it up and never plan on using it. Can I freeze/remove it in titanium backup?
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Up for this very important 3ad...
Its that kies air once connected it starts that wi fi sharing. Best way is to freeze it and many others
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Its that kies air once connected it starts that wi fi sharing. Best way is to freeze it and many others
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Yep, I think you're right. I never enabled wifi sharing either, but I have used Kies Air a few times, and then seen Wifi Sharing appear in the Battery Usage stats.
same here set it up and not using it but it is sucking up battery .. this is a big problem. this phone isnot ready yet for my daily driver.. think i am going back to my sgs
i was getting 10% usage in about 2 hours.. i normaly get 3-5 % overnight with my sgs
anyway i have read a few threads and froze (makes them unruneable /using titanium backup .
software update
wifi sharing
and wifi sharing manager
i can always re-enable them if i want to tether
i will keep you informed on how this effects battery
i also used autostarts to disable accuweather which kept starting up.. i dont use any weather widgets other that beautiful weather which has its own
Sitting on 7% battery now. Been going all day, 10.5hrs, and NO Wifi sharing in the battery usage. Didn't turn Wifi tethering on at all today.
This morning it happened again ... But unlike yesterday, instead of killing the process I tried to enable and disable wifi hotspot and the process has finished eating cpu and battery!
I have the same problem, both Wi-fi sharing and Wi-fi sharing manager appear in my 'running services' and are consuming a lot of battery power.
I have not enabled wifi tethering, I've tried enabling and disabling, but this has not fixed the problem. I have used Kies air before, but have made sure that this is not running too.
I can force stop wi-fi sharing and wi-fi sharing manager, but they will re-appear as soon as you re-enable wi-fi.
Any idea what this is? or how to stop it?
Just this week my phones battery has lost its mind. I use a my touch 4g with the standard battery and had a usual battery life of 12 hours or more easily. Now from this Tuesday I've had a battery life of 4 hours from 100% to 0%. I have to charge the battery 3 times a day. Most of the battery is used when idle for some reason and I've looked at what uses the most battery in spare parts but the app will constantly crash.
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Just this week my phones battery has lost its mind. I use a my touch 4g with the standard battery and had a usual battery life of 12 hours or more easily. Now from this Tuesday I've had a battery life of 4 hours from 100% to 0%. I have to charge the battery 3 times a day. Most of the battery is used when idle for some reason and I've looked at what uses the most battery in spare parts but the app will constantly crash.
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I'll tell you what's funny. Is my mom and i have the same phone and we are having the same exact problem that you are mentioning. In fact i have Auto Sync off / GPS off / data ON /and i've lost 12% of my battery in the past 3 hours. My battery usage stats don't look that off. but something is seriously going AWOL.
same issue here on 2x phones.. These seemed to correspond to the radio upgrade i did from the official gingerbread release.
I have since backed out of it, going back to the previous version. However, the issue has seemed to continue.
I have done the following (prob didn't need too, but wanted to cover the bases)
* Wipe cache
* wipe dalvik
* reflash rom
* apply kernel update
... I seem to still be experiencing the severe drain, phone is hot..
I did just notice the cell tower GPS was turned on, i disabled this to see if it helps.
Next step will be to remove the market update i recently did that also corresponds to the problem.
Other then this... i'm at a loss as to wtf...
I updated my radio this morning but I was experiencing the problem before the update so I don't think it was that.
I had that same issue when I updated to the newest radio...ate my battery up like a fat kid in a twinkie factory! So I went back to .09.04, wiped battery stats, calibrated battery with the app, and now my battery life is getting back to normal
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Clearing out and resetting gps seems to have yielded positive results on both phones.. battery seems much more stable on both phones
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I was thinking about this last night. t-mobile knows what phones we have by IMEI numbers. And since they are pushing the 2.3.4 update out. I wonder if they are pinging our phones trying to get our phone to accept the update. And since we aren't running a recognized ROM it's sending back the information the computer is wanting and thus the cycle continues. Killing our batteries.
Everything on my phone right now is stock and the battery still drains like mad. Last night I left the phone idle at 100% and by my math I was losing 5% every 10 mins so by the time I finished watching two movies without even glancing at the phone my battery was dead. Now I notice that the phone takes about 5 hours to charge as well.
I have been experiencing the same issue since Wednesday. I've wiped, reflashed, changed from cyanogen to virtuous unity. Nothing stops the drain except putting the phone in airplane mode. There is a pretty serious discussion in the t-mobile support forums where a lot of people, both rooted and not, are experiencing the quick drain. It seems t-mobile has acknowledged this to an extent but hasn't issued any statement with any clarity as to why or when it will be fixed. One thing is becoming more apparent though and that is that it seems to be a network issue. Some people have removed google maps and fixed the problem but that didn't work for me.
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I forget which app is recommended and used by members of the forum most often. I searched the market for 'gps reset' and came up with an app called: GPS Status & Toolbox.
One of its menu options is Tools>Manage A-GPS state> Reset
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I posted this in the RG2.1 thread. I have had this fix the drain issue on 2 phones. Please try it, i'm anxious to see if it works for others.
My phone was getting hot near the bottom of the phone, i believe this is where the GPS chip is.
I only have theories as to why the gps could be the issue...
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I have been experiencing the same issue since Wednesday. I've wiped, reflashed, changed from cyanogen to virtuous unity. Nothing stops the drain except putting the phone in airplane mode. There is a pretty serious discussion in the t-mobile support forums where a lot of people, both rooted and not, are experiencing the quick drain. It seems t-mobile has acknowledged this to an extent but hasn't issued any statement with any clarity as to why or when it will be fixed. One thing is becoming more apparent though and that is that it seems to be a network issue. Some people have removed google maps and fixed the problem but that didn't work for me.
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By Putting the device in AirPlane mode you are bypassing the HSPA network. and cutting all ties with it. There HAS to be something pinging our phones. HAS to be.
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By Putting the device in AirPlane mode you are bypassing the HSPA network. and cutting all ties with it. There HAS to be something pinging our phones. HAS to be.
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airplane mode disables ALL of the radios, including gps...
I seriously doubt something is pinging the phone. I don't believe the update check works like that.
^^^^Just tried the above method to no avail. Battery % just dropped another 3 percent in about 15 minutes. This issue seems to be spreading fast. I proudly consider myself a geek but I am stumped as far as knowing what to do. I guess we are at the mercy of t-mobile.
Interesting..... I've noticed the exact same thing the last few days. Normally when I'm at home and my phone is on wifi, I can go to sleep with the phone at around 95% and wake up in the morning and the phone is at around 91% or 92%. Wednesday I woke up and my phone was at 63%, I was shocked. I'm running Royal Ginger 2.1(I've been running it for some time now). So something has changed and I personally don't think it's the ROM. The suggestion about the official gingerbread update from tmobile seems like a pretty good assessment considering its been happening to a lot of people (rooted and non rooted) over the last week.
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airplane mode disables ALL of the radios, including gps...
I seriously doubt something is pinging the phone. I don't believe the update check works like that.
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you can enable Wi-Fi after putting the phone in AP mode. And i have my A-GPS off and GPS radio off, and i'm still having the problem mentioned.
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you can enable Wi-Fi after putting the phone in AP mode. And i have my A-GPS off and GPS radio off, and i'm still having the problem mentioned.
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did u try resetting the gps with an app? That seemed to be the ticket for me.
I'm currently running updated maps, market, and radio with so far, a normal battery life.
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did u try resetting the gps with an app? That seemed to be the ticket for me.
I'm currently running updated maps, market, and radio with so far, a normal battery life.
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what do you mean by resetting it with an app?
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what do you mean by resetting it with an app?
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please refer to my previous post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16149738&postcount=10
I had the same battery drain problem for the past few days also. I saw an article on another site about recent battery drain problems for a different T-mobile phone. (i think it was the G2) A few ppl on there named a couple apps that they thought were causing it: the recent Google Maps update, the Market update, and the Google Plus app. So I uninstall the two updates and the Google+ app, let my phone die completely and charged it all the way, with the phone off, uninterrupted.
That was 19 hrs ago and I have 60% left and I've been browsing the web, with wifi on, and playing a few different games for most of the day. I don't know which one of those things fixed it, but I had to be one of them. Before this I was lucky to get through the work day with more than 20% left with little use. Hope this helps some of you fix this.
I was having the same issue and clearing the gps state as mentioned above seems to have worked.
EDIT: This did not work. I was out in a gsm only area so my phone was running on 2g and as soon as I got back to HSPA+ area battery drain started happening again. Might be going to Verizon if this keeps up.