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why on earth does the g1 not capture video?
???? street view.. yes? video capture..no?? wtf
There will be a 3rd party program within a week that can record video. Jailbroken iPhones do it, the G1 is completely open... No worries.
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I think ( *think* ) the reason is that qualcom and broadcom are in a legal dispute over some aspects of H.264 encoding in hardware and until till that is cleared up, no "official" recording apps will be made.
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I think ( *think* ) the reason is that qualcom and broadcom are in a legal dispute over some aspects of H.264 encoding in hardware and until till that is cleared up, no "official" recording apps will be made.
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Yeah, I never said official. I just know there are plenty of people out there who want it, so developers will throw a program together in no time.
G1 Video File Formats...?
I have a trip coming up, with lots of airport connections/layovers. I used to convert video files and copy them to microSD cards for playback in my WinMo device. Will I be able to do this on my G1? What, if any, file formats will it support?
From what I can read, it plays videos with a YouTube player; can I somehow use that...?
youtube's format is flv you can try to convert to that
other then that it support whatever formats people develop
players to support
Does the g1 support video output?
Well...does it? It would be very convenient if it did. :-D
the G1 does not have video out at this time.
well duh....i was thinking more along the lines of the hardware. the chipset has to be able to output video using the ext-usb cable thing...
only way is over tcp/ip. But there are no apps for that yet.
it could be like a vnc server or video streaming.
but how would it be convenient?
Every attempt i have had at playing a video ends up in the same scenario....
My video will play for 3-4 second then begin to lag out and then i get a error saying sorry this video cannot be played.
no one has any advice?
Anyone having the same issues?
try encoding you videos using the instructions posted in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441063
works perfect for me.
will this be required for every single video on my g1?
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will this be required for every single video on my g1?
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unfortunately yeah for know until there is an update that supports other video formats i know it kinda sux
but the encoder found in that thread is pretty fast depending on the length of the video. also most mobile sites that stream 3gp vids work on the g1
What sucks is handango has a video player and converter for sale for the g1. I was all set to buy it but i tried downloading free trial and it says it is not intended for this device, DENIED!!!!
I have like 7 movies including the dark knight all run on mp4 and run great with video player from the market
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I have a trip coming up, with lots of airport connections/layovers. I used to convert video files and copy them to microSD cards for playback in my WinMo device. Will I be able to do this on my G1? What, if any, file formats will it support?
From what I can read, it plays videos with a YouTube player; can I somehow use that...?
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you can go to WAREZ SITES ARE NOT ALLOWED and search for "iPod" and filter by video
all those videos that show up should play on the G1 using Cinema or other Video Players. This is NOT legal however and NO ONE SHOULD DO IT and I AM NOT ENDORSING OR RECOMMENDING IT. There is no Divx player that I know of and there may not ever be as playing mp4 and h.264 is extremely simple but Divx/xvid will need software decoding.
The battery in the G1 is MUCH MUCH less than your old WinMo, the battery is physically 1/3 of the size so expect 2 hours of video from disconnecting from the charger. May be more on plane mode and lower screen brightness, BT, Wifi, GPS all off.
The G1 has always had audio and video codecs for playing MP4 vids, put Google did not create a player interface to use it.
The three apps on the market now are interfaces that should have been in the player in the first place.
Mega lame times infinity squared.
This is the app that I use to convert my dvd's,it works like a charm,I recommend mp4/h624 and 320x176,it'll be around 250/300mgs which is nice for a G1 screen...of course it could be 500 or 700mgs and the quiality will be better.
www.dvdfab.com
Just wondering what people are using for a media player primarily a video player?
I am using RockPlayer and to be honest it is faultless. Plays everyting I throw at it including h/x264 and ac3 sound.
There is one small issue and that is with configuration. I wouldn't mind a few more features like volume boosters etc.
I commute so tend to just drop videos on the phone to watch. Amazingly smoother and faster than winmo.
i personally use and like DoubleTwist. i havent' used RockPlayer yet.. but i have heard many good things about it.
Doubletwist is nice but seems to be okay with h264 but not xvid
Is there any app out there that lets you change the song in the middle of doing something like using gamedroid? Kinda like the home button on the ipod touch when you tap twice it brings up the media player?
i use mixzing for song playback. and i use mvideoplayer for video files (doesn't play divx but offers nice playback control and stuff)
Just so you guys know, there are Android general forums that might get you more replies and ideas.
Android General forums and Android Apps subforurm.
The only reason why i used rockplayer is cuz it plays rmvb and rm files (a MUST have for hardcore chinese drama lovers =P)
if anyone knows of another that can play realmedia files, please let me know cuz i'm also looking into other options
+1 for doubleTwist here
I use one called simply 'Music Player' (it was the top hit on the apps store). Excellent, fond my music straight away with no configuration, small footprint, instant start with no lag and a great FF/REW function. Unlike Windows Media Player :0)
I have searched high and low... this is crazy. I have my entire DVD collection ripped from DVDfab to VOB format and it works great with VLC player, WD Live tv, etc. I copy the movie I want to my Xoom and no player will play the friggin files. Some of the players will play the first VOB file, then just die out. Never making it to the next one.
I really do not want to convert or pay for a coverter to switch to MP4 formats...
What players have you tried so far?
Just about every single video player in the marketplace. Rocketplayer, vplayer, doubletwist, etc. I just found a VOB merger.
http://beginwithsoftware.com/videoguides/joinvobfilestool.html
Merging hot tub time machine right now and see how it goes.
I have vob's too..i just used Total Video Converter to convert mine to mp4 ..you have to pay for it but im sure there might be some free converters out there.
It seems like it is soooo close to working by default with Rockplayer or Vplayer. Its like the same mess I went through with WDLIVE box to get to play videos.. finally it works great now. I really do not want to convert and take up that time....
This might be a dumb question, but did you try changing the extension to .mpg?
It won't solve the finding-the-next file problem, but at least they might play?
It does actually somewhat play. I have the Black Knight and it has a fairly large VOB file and on my xoom, it spits it out perfectly through HDMI using RocketPlayer. But once that VOB is done.. it craps out.
Try Moboplayer.
Yeah, no love from mobo either. Its seems so easy.. but I guess not... Its like I just turned the hands of video playing back 12 months to my WDlive box and everyone trying to get it to work as well.
Your problem stems from the weird way you chose to store your videos. Ripped videos are usually converted to MPEG4--ASP (DivX) for older stuff, AVC (H264) for current stuff. Most players therefor are designed for MPEG4, not MPEG2, and not the VOB container.
Your method was OK for the PC because it has a mature software ecosystem, and lots of available players. On mobile devices, you get hit by a double whammy of hardware restrictions and limited software. Most every current Android player is using ffmpeg lib, meaning no HW accel. HW accel will come for Android, but not for MPEG2. Online videos are all using MPEG4 AVC nowaday.
If you want to stick with VOBs, then buy a tablet geared for PMP use. The Archos Gen8 currently can play VOBs, as are a host of no-name Asian tabs. Chinese & Korean vendors have a long PMP history, and typically have strong video support. Their downside, for now, is no HC and low build quality.
Versatile media playing is one of the "Killer" features that Honeycomb should have had from the outset as it one of the obvious features that Android tablets could beat the iPad on hands down.
Research has already shown that a lot of tablet use is made at home and the large screen is perfect for media playing. MPEG2 and VOBS have been around a long time and when a low powered WDTV media player or an Archos can handle a wide range of audio and video formats it seems perverse that Android users are having to wait for these features.
Honeycomb needs to be able to play just about any video or audio format thrown at it. Google/Honeycomb needs features like this to demonstrate an obvious advantage over other tablets and "Chinese" media players.
The more that a Honeycomb tablet can do, the more successful they will be. To my mind it's just the sort of thing the public and the press would see as a major "plus" factor. Why should one have to buy a number of separate devices when one device could do them all?
I have read that the VLC media player is being ported to Android so we can live in hope but it really should have been in Honeycomb as a native feature from day one.
A native way to save and/or print a web page should also have been a "native" feature as well as a screencap feature - at least this last feature is included on the Asus Transformer so there is hope!
I'd need to check but maybe a way around this would be to setup a playlist and play each VOB in sequence? I think, but again I'd need to check, that Moboplayer has the ability for playlists...
Sure, HC should have any number of things. It should've been finished. But it isn't.
Consumers always want things done yesterday. The reality is that software development always lags. Rather than dwelling on the "shouldas", IMO it's more productive to focus on what is, and plan your decisions accordingly.
Lack of MPEG2/AC3 support isn't a matter of power. It's a matter of licensing. Many product decisions are made on business reality (read: $ cost), and not what's technically feasible. Most videos nowaday use MPEG4, and that's where the demand lies. Like it or not, VOB/MPEG2 viewing is a niche need. Those used to the PC's abundance in software will have to recalibrate their expectations for Android.
I dont think its a honeycomb issue. I think there is not a player out there to handle VOBs correctly because there has not been a device to come even close to being able to play the hi-res video files. Xoom can do it. I have said before somewhere, if I have a single VOB such as the Dark Knight, it plays awesome on my Xoom and through HDMI out to my TV.. (streaming no less from my WD 1tb NAS drive). It really works.. to me, its a player issue and nobody has made a player to play multiple VOB files. Id pay $20 or $30 had a player to make all my current ripped dvds work on the xoom.
and to top it off, MPEG4 stinks. I "converted" a VOB using one of the bazillion convertor software programs out there and it shows up on my xoom fine, but looks like crap compared to the VOB
Suggest you try a good converter. There's a reason why the whole computing world is using MPEG4. For a no-brainer converter that can do drag-drop batch processing (so you can do all your vids in one go), try HandBrake with my automated script.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978529
Can I have this convert my existing VOBs? Or do I need to go back to the DVDs and do this?
I tried a convertor and it took about 2 hours.. insane.
The script accept folders as input. Each folder should hold a movie, and should have the VIDEO_TS.IFO file (this contains the stream info), along with the VOBs.
Yes, depending on your system speed, it will take a while. That's why there is batch processing. You drop 5-10 movies onto the script, and let it run overnight.
Speed is set at medium as default. For about 30-50% faster processing, at the cost of about 10% size increase, edit script and change speed to 'veryfast'.
I would recommend arcMedia player, after trying Buzz, MX, Mobo and Rockplayer I can say that arcMedia player handled this (megaupload. com/?d=O7ZMO5GK) video file the best so far.
If you turn off "skipping frames" at Buzz, video is being played with hanging / freezees, although CPU isn't being overloaded.
Other players just don't play ac3 audio properly.
give it a try to understand what I mean.
I have all of my Videos in VOB format also. when I convert these movies to MPEG4 is there a way to save all of the DVD features like subtitles, menus, and extras?
I'm new to the world of Android, but I've had my eye on the Acer Iconia A500 for a while. After getting my hands on one recently for a few minutes in a store, I'm pretty sure this is the tab I want. The feature set is excellent, the form factor is really nice, and the price is right too!
But before I buy, there's something I need to know (which I was not able to learn after searching this forum extensively). I want to use my A500 for video playback -- specifically, for playing a playlist of short videos, in sequence. This is for performances that I do which include video projections.
Are there video players available for the A500 that can use playlists? And if so, what are the transitions between videos in a playlist like? What I'd prefer would be just a seamless jump from one video to the next. A delay of up to a few seconds would be OK, but I would want to see only a black screen during that time. I don't want to see the video player controls, the tablet home screen, or anything else appearing in between videos.
If you smart people here can put my mind at rest that this is possible, it will move me one step closer to becoming an Iconia A500 owner. Thanks in advance...
If you get the Act1 video player you can create playlists. You can even have them play randomly through the settings. Act1 combined with the hdmi out means music videos on autopilot when I have people over.
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projectdownset: Cool, thanks... I figured there must be video players that would do this, but wanted to know for sure. You mention that random play is possible with Act1, but I assume I could also play in a defined order as well... is that correct?
Also, what are the transitions between videos like?
P.S. Apologies if my questions seem dumb... I have ZERO experience with Android. I'm guessing there are probably video player apps that will do what I want, but I can't afford to invest in a tablet without knowing whether it can do what I need.
Again, I just need to know if there's a video player that will play a playlist of videos in sequence, with seamless (invisible) transitions between videos.
Set my mind at ease and help me join the ranks of A500 owners!
projectdownset: Do you use Act1 with an external monitor or projector? Because I see this on the Act1 FAQ page:
My phone has an HDMI output port. Will it work with Act 1?
No, Act 1 can't access the HDMI output port of Android devices. Manufacturers of Android devices with HDMI output (such as the Droid X and HTC Evo) are using their own applications and interfaces to access the HDMI port. This functionality is not made available to third party applications, unfortunately.
The more general problem is that Android doesn't have a concept of external display devices. That is to say, no one can write a general application that can access a monitor that is not the device's builtin screen. Some day Google may expand Android to generally support external displays, but today it's not possible.
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I created a shortcut for my playlist and played it right on my tv. The acer and xoom mirror the tab unlike other phomes that have a seperate interface for their hdmi.
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Update: I have gotten a little more info elsewhere. An Asus Transformer owner was nice enough to test video playback for me in the Dice, MX, and Mobo players.
Here's what they found:
Dice player : No playlists but it can be set to play all the files in a specific folder sequentially. The player controls do pop up for a few seconds between each file and I couldn't see any way to disable this.
MX Player : No playlists or whole folder support that I could find. Each file needs to be started manually.
Moboplayer : Playlist support, but as far as I can tell, no auto-advance to next file.
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Still hoping to find a player that fully meets my needs.
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I created a shortcut for my playlist and played it right on my tv. The acer and xoom mirror the tab unlike other phomes that have a seperate interface for their hdmi.
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OK, cool. Thanks for the info.
Any other Act1 users out there know what the transitions between videos in a playlist look like?
Fast transitions. Hard to change the video. I hide the onscreen controls so I have to press next on the screen four or five times to fast forward through the video. I'm sure there's an easier way I just have to mess with it. You should just try it and if you don't like it get a refund.
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projectdownset: Thanks again. Elsewhere on the internets, I got a response from a Galaxy S user who tried Act1 with a playlist, and said there were no transitions between videos other than about 0.25 seconds of black. That's exactly what I was hoping to hear.
I think I will go ahead and get the A500 and see how it works out!
Video editor
If these are videos that have a predefined order.and always the same videos.edit them on your PC into one segment you can then control every aspect of transition and so on.you can then play it with most players.
Goodluck
Hi Erica,
They do not always have the same order. I sometimes want to add or remove videos, or change the order.
I used to use a portable DVD player... but of course that required me to burn a DVD every time. I wanted a solution that would allow me more flexibility. I've been using my laptop recently (with the VLC player, which has nice playlists and clean transitions).
But it would be great to use a tablet instead -- much more portable. From what I'm hearing about Act 1, I think I could run it on the A500 and get good results.
I have been searching high and low for a really good video player for Honeycomb. Annoyingly, Google wasn't helping much, with people generally parroting advice like 'install MoboPlayer' (its awful, and its a stretchy app - not even optimised for Honeycomb.)
In short I needed to be able to do the following:
1. Smooth video when played over DLNA (I use Rygel on Ubuntu as my DLNA server, and the excellent Skifta as my client). IMO, the only way to watch torrented videos on a tab is via DLNA - forget CIFS or copying the file locally. What a drag..
2. Optimised for Honeycomb - the "turn the lights out" status bar dots feature was really important.
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I tried...
RockPlayer Lite - It has an annoying R logo in the corner and doesn't do lights out.
MX Video Player - I found it would go all slow and jerky. At first I thought it was the ads (very obnoxious ad version btw), so I purchased the full version. It did it again so I quickly got a refund.
Daroon Player - I couldn't get it to work very well using DLNA
MoboPlayer - awful stretchy. Comes highly recommended on the web, but I hated it. Doesn't do turn the lights out either.
and the winner is..
DicePlayer
This loads videos quicker than any other via DLNA, and it does lights out. It also has the excellent 'lock screen' feature and gesture control. Its paid, unfortunately, but it does come with an ad free trial.
ANYWAY, here endeth the lesson on what is the best Honeycomb video player. DicePlayer.
mxplayer works ok for me... did you install the armv7 plugin for it? if it is using hw to decode, it should be smooth
I tried the dice player trial version, when playing mkv files with subtitles, it seems to require extracting the subtitles file first, which takes a whole minute's time, that is annoying.... do you have similar issues?
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mxplayer works ok for me... did you install the armv7 plugin for it? if it is using hw to decode, it should be smooth
I tried the dice player trial version, when playing mkv files with subtitles, it seems to require extracting the subtitles file first, which takes a whole minute's time, that is annoying.... do you have similar issues?
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mx player - yes, codecs as suggested. i can't remember if I had the lights out feature working on that.
not sure about the subs - i haven't got any to test. actually I wonder if a subs file over DLNA is even possible?
I concur with your assessment of Dice Player. Decent codec recognition, fast loading, swipe controls for brightness/volume/ffw/rwnd, on the fly adjustment of aspect ratios for screen fit, and the programmer got around the AC3 bottleneck by running the decoding of AC3 on the second core. Something that meant alot to me, as alot of my archived rips have AC3 audio, and it was the only one I found that could decode AC3.
According to the reviews, you have to have an internet connection to use it as it checks the license key when you start the APP every time? What about watching a movie on a plane, in your car, etc?
Seems ludicrous to me
I just disabled wifi and launched Diceplayer. I'm using the licensed edition. I'm using it right now with wifi turned off. Not sure about the reviews you saw, but I can confirm an Internet connection is not required with the full version.
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I just disabled wifi and launched Diceplayer. I'm using the licensed edition. I'm using it right now with wifi turned off. Not sure about the reviews you saw, but I can confirm an Internet connection is not required with the full version.
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Do me a favor please? Turn of wifi, reboot, then launch the app with wifi still off?
Ty
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First review on the page:
Fantastic - but shame about the licensing issue. by W99 – November 9, 2011
Amazing app, plays every 720p mkv file that I've thrown at it. HOWEVER: I couldn't play my movies on a 7-hour flight because the app tried to go online to verify the license. Had to resort to reading a book instead!
Disabled wifi, rebooted, and double checked that wifi was still turned off. Status bar confirmed "No Internet Connection". Launched Diceplayer. Smooth sailing with no wifi. I'm unsure, since I purchased the app when I found that it fulfilled all my requirements, but perhaps the reviewers were alluding to the trial app checking the licence as a form of copy protection? That would be my first guess. When I saw your post I knew I'd used it in the absence of wifi, but decided to double check before posting.
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Disabled wifi, rebooted, and double checked that wifi was still turned off. Status bar confirmed "No Internet Connection". Launched Diceplayer. Smooth sailing with no wifi. I'm unsure, since I purchased the app when I found that it fulfilled all my requirements, but perhaps the reviewers were alluding to the trial app checking the licence as a form of copy protection? That would be my first guess. When I saw your post I knew I'd used it in the absence of wifi, but decided to double check before posting.
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Thanks bro, I appreciate it. Not sure why someone would be commenting on a trial for a plane ride, but there's no accounting for that
Now I just have to decide if paying $5+ for a video player is worth it lol
ty again for checking for me
I consider it the best money I've spent since getting my tablet. Its played everything I've thrown at it up to 720p MKV, Divx, Xvid, MP4 etc. Its feature rich as hell, with a splendidly simple user interface. I really like the swipe gestures in play. Swipe across center to the right fast forwards 30 seconds, swipe left rewinds the same. Swipe up or down on the right controls brightness, swipe up or down on left controls volume. The "toggle box" just above sequence slider toggles stretch/4:3/16:9 and many others for full screen/TV out compatibility. My research showed when I bought it that it was the only player that could use Hardware Decoding to save on battery life as well. Plus as of this writing its the only one I know of that can decode AC3. I wouldn't use it on an Android phone as the system requirements are higher, but On Honeycomb it's awesome. Just my 2 cents
Another vote in favor of Diceplayer. I use it exclusvely now, both local files and DLNA streaming. It has played just about everything. I tried the others before this, clearly the best.
Does anyone know if i can switch folders in dice player? i only see my internal and external sd card and i would like to play movies off of my external hdd.
I'll stick to my current player and I'm happy with it.
It can play almost most of media format including MKV files (Matroska) and most importantly, it's FREE.
MXVideo player is the best player. Most importent function for me is hand add subtitles. Very useful if you don't wish to rename subtitles.
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I'll stick to my current player and I'm happy with it.
It can play almost most of media format including MKV files (Matroska) and most importantly, it's FREE.
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Ok, I'll bite... Got a link? Maybe the name of the player?
Please.
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+1 for Dice Player. Tried all the usual suspects and came to the same conclusion. Top notch app, however the $5 price tag did seem a bit steep. $2-3 would be more fair, but hey, can't always win.
As far as Mobo Player being highly recommended, I must say it does wonders for me on my phone, however it was less than satisfactory on the A500. Thought I'd point that out. Since buying Dice Player though, I now use it on my phone as well. Might as well get the most out of my $5 right?
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Does anyone know if i can switch folders in dice player? i only see my internal and external sd card and i would like to play movies off of my external hdd.
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Just use any file manager to open your videos from anywhere. Problem solved. I have tons of movies on my external HDD and just do it this way and it works great. Infact, I never use the internal file manager
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Ok, I'll bite... Got a link? Maybe the name of the player?
Please.
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It's nice to hear that you have a good player, but it does no good without saying what it is...
I have noticed that no one tried BSplayer.
It's free, plays 720p MKV with subtitles, hides buttons and DLNA works great over my PS3 Media server.
I found it plays MKV much better than Diceplayer.
I purchased MX Player and it plays all of my 720P MKVs with AC3 sound well.
I use HW decoding for the video and software for the audio.
It won't play my 1080P MKVs though.
Are you guys saying Dice Player is better?
I have tried the stock Acer Media Player, Rock Player, Mobo Player, Doubletwist, and Act 1 Video Player. Until recently, Act 1 was my player of choice, but I bought Dice Player and I have to say that to me, it is hands down the best one of them all. The purchase price was money well spent.
As for using an external SD card, I know that in the app settings, you can designate two different media folders. One can be the movies folder on your internal memory, and the other can be a folder on your external SD card. The only thing is that you have to know the folder path as you can only type in the path and not file browse to it when making this setting.
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I have noticed that no one tried BSplayer.
It's free, plays 720p MKV with subtitles, hides buttons and DLNA works great over my PS3 Media server.
I found it plays MKV much better than Diceplayer.
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This works pretty well. I like its performance compared to Mx, but I think Mx has the better interface.