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poor wifi reception is a known issue right?

Just wondering, I've heard mumbles here and there that wifi on the 8525 is quite poor. The reason I want to make sure is because I recently updated my ROM and stuff from the factory installed cingular ones to the newest ATT ones offered on HTC's site. For the short time that I had the factory ROM, i could get a fairly good signal, but now that i have the newest rom and radio and all that, I can barely get a good signal practically anywhere. I'm one floor, directly above the router and I can get a 'very good' signal with my computer and my other pda, but i can hardly get one bar with my 8525. is the wifi really THIS bad? i have the settings set to best performance and i've tried nearly everything on this forum.

evilelf2407 said:
Just wondering, I've heard mumbles here and there that wifi on the 8525 is quite poor. The reason I want to make sure is because I recently updated my ROM and stuff from the factory installed cingular ones to the newest ATT ones offered on HTC's site. For the short time that I had the factory ROM, i could get a fairly good signal, but now that i have the newest rom and radio and all that, I can barely get a good signal practically anywhere. I'm one floor, directly above the router and I can get a 'very good' signal with my computer and my other pda, but i can hardly get one bar with my 8525. is the wifi really THIS bad? i have the settings set to best performance and i've tried nearly everything on this forum.
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This has been dealt with before - generally the range is 10 to 15 metres with perhaps 1 to 2 interior walls between. Beyond that is very dodgy.
Mike

if i went back to the original radio do you think that would make it work better again? if so, how would i do that?

having a problem with reception

My reception is poor on the phone. If I stick a piece of wire into the antenna port, it improves. I have flashed to the Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM which I believe has an upgraded radio version and am still having problems. Does anybody have any suggestions?

Welcome to forums
Enter to the Universal Wiki and go to the fttp site, then you can download several radios.
The best way is to test the more you can till you get the one with best reception.
What version do you have?
Most recommended are 1.15, 1.17 and 1.18
Good luck,

Most ROMs don't have the radio included, you need to flash it separately. So, no, don't think your ROM came with upgraded radio included. Speaking opf upgraded radio - sometimes upgraded, as in higher in number/date of issue is not necessarily the best for your particular location/ROM combination, so my advice would be to test a few different versions and see which one performs the best in your location.

Thank you kindly for the assistance. It was this issue that led me to put my Universal away and get an Advantage, but once I found this website I decided to see if I could get some help in fixing the Uni. I was missing it

whelp I put the Radio 1.18 on and it did no good at all. I attempted to put the Radio 1.15 on, but the flash utility is showing a picture of a device that is not a uni and it is not working when I try it. I have downloaded the file from a couple of different places on here and it is labeled as Universal_radio-1.15.00
any assistance will be greatly appreciated up to and including my willingness to bear your child. As I am a male, this would be no easy feat so it should show the depth of my gratitude

I have 4 years with my Uni and tested a lot of ROM´s and radios and still have the bad reception problem.
Is something I can live with..., but in some areas reception is so bad.
Some are better than other. I discovered on my personal case that radio 1.08 and 1.18 are the ones that give me better signal and are not a battery eaters.
This must be also something to do with cell provider, on my case, Telcel sucks in terms of reception, and prices and, and....

problem is that it does not work at all in my office. maybe i can rig up an antenna that is on the inside of the phone

DerUbermench said:
whelp I put the Radio 1.18 on and it did no good at all. I attempted to put the Radio 1.15 on, but the flash utility is showing a picture of a device that is not a uni and it is not working when I try it. I have downloaded the file from a couple of different places on here and it is labeled as Universal_radio-1.15.00
any assistance will be greatly appreciated up to and including my willingness to bear your child. As I am a male, this would be no easy feat so it should show the depth of my gratitude
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Yes, some ROM upgrade utility apps will show Magician. If you downloaded a file labelled as Universal_radio - go ahead, it's all good and it is for your device, don't worry about the picture, however, follow the reset instructions for Uni, not the ones shown. Should work, don't see any reason not to. What is the message you are getting?
Rigging up an antenna should be the last resort. As far as reception is concerned, I can have only 1 bar showing or none at all, but that means I still have the reception, it's when I don't see 3G or the data connection attempts to connect and fails, I know there is a problem.
Interesting thing: we have a large mall and part of it has no reception whatsoever for my Uni, yet has some on other cellphones I use, but barely. So when I enter that area my GPRS and 3G connection disappears completely and restarts when I leave, I know exactly the location of the 'communications black hole'.
Can it be that your office blocks the GPRS? Can it be that your internal antenna is malfunctioning? What are the exact symptoms?
As for bearing children for me, I think it's the job better left to the professionals (women)

Forgot to mention, I don't have reception in my very own garage of all places! Drives me nuts!

that probably for the best since I wasnt sure where to begin. I went home and googled it and surprise surprise it's supposed to be darned near impossible (edit: me giving birth, that is)
my whole building is a blackout zone for my phone. other phones are weaker, but my uni is the only one I have seen that has no reception whatsoever. I got the radio 1.15 working and still no go.
I got the uni because I really need a phone that I can realistically work with Word and Excel on to save me the hassle of carrying around a laptop. I don't think anything will work besides a 'custom' internal antenna or maybe I just stick with the Advantage until the new rumored HTC clamshell comes out (assuming I can afford it)

DerUbermench said:
until the new rumored HTC clamshell comes out (assuming I can afford it)
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What you mean with this?
Please share your info about this!!!

orb3000 said:
What you mean with this?
Please share your info about this!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544734
don't get your hopes up. It's all a part of the rumors swirling around about the Leo and the Thoth since it looks like the Thoth will no longer be of the Advantage line

Thanks for that
Hopefully they really launch something similar to Uni!!

Alright, as a very last suggestion - try factory ROM, it comes bundled with Radio and Ext Rom, see what happens.

it's all a no go
looks like I am going to have to go to work on it.
Now all I need is a plasma torch, 50 feet of nylon rope, a hydraulic press, 17 ferrets, and a bible

Signal is AWFULL! (When Handled)

I've copied this from the Vodafone (UK) forum - but I don't seem to be the only one with a proble... Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I've had my HD2 for just a few days now and I can honestly say that unless something is sorted soon I won't be using it much longer! I have exactly the same problem in both DT1 and BH20 post codes. Singal is good and strong when the device is left on a desk/table etc... I can have FULL signal but lift the device up and it drops to 3, 2, 1 and then no signal...
I can make perfect phone calls using hands free, but can't even send or recieve a text if I pick the phone up. We're talking less than 24" of movement here so it has to be device related!
Comparing this to the HTC Diamond. The Diamond although showing slightly less signal (2-3bars) is much more stable and non-reactive to being handled.
I'm using the very latest updates with HSDPA/HSUPA disabled.
It would seem that HTC has dropped the ball here.
(HSPL - ROM 1.66)
Vodafone thread - http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48152&st=0

I replied to your post in the Vodafone forum assuming you were still on the stock 1.43 ROM, but if you are on 1.66 then I am not sure what to suggest as you mentioned that it happens in multiple areas which seem to be a fair way apart and therefore would be on different transmitters (unless you are unfortunate enough to be in several areas all suffering from faulty cell-towers).
I know mine drops a bar when I pick it up but not 2 to 3 and then to no signal...
Maybe you should contact HTC about a replacement? Dont bother with Vodafone as they'll offer you a Blackberry 9700 if they cant fix it...

SOunds faulty to me. There is sometimes a small drop in signal for me when the phoe is cupped in my hand, but not more than 1 bar, usually none.
I'd get on to your provider for a warranty replacement.

Nothing such here. And I'm in a low reception place here, seems it even does better than my previous Kaiser.

Seems that Vodafone is a bit of a crappy network in terms of its compatibility with phones! If it's not text messages staying in the outbox it's data disconnecting/not working and no picture messaging NOW rubbish signal....jeez. I've been on T-Mobile with the HD2 since it arrived in november and haven't had one single problem with texts, data, signal....anything. I've had two different handsets in that time too since I sold the first upgrade.
In all seriousness though I do also have a prototype pro.three (pre-release HD2) and that suffers from low signal/signal dropout so in this instance it seems that you have a faulty unit.
I do hear a lot of moaning Voda users on these forums though which makes me quite likely to steer clear when I get my upgrade in a few weeks.

Link added:
Vodafone thread - http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48152&st=0
It doesn't look like its JUST my phone here...
Outside this problem is not half as bad.

Lots of people across the world are having problems with the SMS thing.
Its also not limited to the HD2 handset as I had it on Kaiser when I updated that handset to WM6.5

Is the 2.07 radio much better? I'm currently using 2.06 at the moment...

dan_t said:
Is the 2.07 radio much better? I'm currently using 2.06 at the moment...
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signal reception seems better (vodafone) however a few including me have an isue of static noise when someone speaks. I have this on 2.07 and 2.08 radios - not sure if its network related. I'm using a custom rom, and have no choise but to use 2.07 or higher, unless i revert back to a previous rom.

ardsar said:
signal reception seems better (vodafone) however a few including me have an isue of static noise when someone speaks. I have this on 2.07 and 2.08 radios - not sure if its network related. I'm using a custom rom, and have no choise but to use 2.07 or higher, unless i revert back to a previous rom.
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I've tried the 2.07 radio and its not noticably better
I've now made my own thread over at Vodafone... it'll be interesting to see what they have to say about it!
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=52093

If you can flash ROMs try Leo Lite V2.2 WWE with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio.
I'm in a very patchy area and behind solar glass and the above setup gives me signal strength and stability better than any other ROM/radio combo or phone I have ever had. This includes many other HTC and Nokia phones.
I never seem to miss a call now and the SMS problemis gone although I believe that is partly to do with the cooked ROM setup.
Also I can pull in H and 3G signals that I could not before.

pa49 said:
If you can flash ROMs try Leo Lite V2.2 WWE with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio.
I'm in a very patchy area and behind solar glass and the above setup gives me signal strength and stability better than any other ROM/radio combo or phone I have ever had. This includes many other HTC and Nokia phones.
I never seem to miss a call now and the SMS problemis gone although I believe that is partly to do with the cooked ROM setup.
Also I can pull in H and 3G signals that I could not before.
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Does the ROM actually play any part in this though or is it just the RADIO upgrade? I've just gone over to 2.08 but using the stock HTC 1.66 ROM

have you checked that the battery cover is on correctly? there are to prongs on the inside of it that make it part of the arial

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Does the ROM actually play any part in this though or is it just the RADIO upgrade? I've just gone over to 2.08 but using the stock HTC 1.66 ROM
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The Rom affects the sms issue (I believe) and my current LeoLite ROM (now 2.3) shows no sms problem and sits well with the radio I mentioned as it unlocks the extra memory.
Addendum
There is a link with ROM and radio through the rilphone.dll that is cooked in to the ROMs.
e.g. The correct rilphone for T-mobileUK will assist in accessing the T-mobile network with the correct protocols required for the services on that network. And same would go for all other operators (who may or may not have their own rilphone file configured to their requirements). I am unaware of any signature that would differentiate between the files, however, it's safe to assume that a rilphone.dll extracted from a stock T-mobileUK ROM would be the appropriate one for their network access.
I haven't seen a lot of experimentation on this although I have tried out various files on the ROMs I have flashed without any real conclusion emerging.
The combination that I mention is just a solid setup that works well for me on my operators network in my location.

[Q] Radio

I'm on the 3 network in Australia and I find my reception is quite poor.
I understand 3's network coverage isn't as amazing as Telstra or Optus, but it is meant to be strong around the CBD, which mine isnt. Other friends on the network using non-htc handsets have perfect reception in places I don't. This leads me to believe it might be my radio. Even when roaming reception will drop out occasionally.
I have Radio-3.22.20.17. Are there any other Australian 3 users here? What radio are you using? How is your reception? Would a 6.35 radio be better? I've searched XDA, Google, etc and couldn't find decent radio information for the Magic, only found some for the Hero.
Thanks,

Anyone able to help?

i don't know much about the radio side of things, but is there anything else that could be affecting your reception?
do you have a cover on your phone?
does reception improve if it's removed?
have you contacted 3 to see if there might be a fault with your phone?

I have a cover, but reception isn't affected with it on or off. I've also had the phone checked and its fine.
I want to test a new radio/rom to see if it improves but I don't want to go back to Android 1.5 and there are no 100% working 2.1 roms, so I'll have to wait.

Are there any threads similar to this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757

Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.

lagu805 said:
Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.
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I ended up trying CursorSense. I hate Sense UI so I removed it, but I didn't notice any signal difference. I also ran Before and After speedtests numerous times and averaged them and the new radio was slower for me

so sorry to hear that...
well, at least i finally found someone from australia using magic and a member of xda as well..

I've not used my Magic on 3, but I can relate to your signal issues on their network. The only contract phone I ever had was with them and I regretted it, call drops and poor signal no matter where I was, I used to work in the stock exchange building, you'd think a phone would have awesome signal there but I'd be stuck on 1-2 bars Sorry to say it, but I think you can blame 3, not your phone.

[Q] which is the best uk radio rom

iv been searching around and cant seem to find which one is best, most of them cause my data connection to fail for a second or two when i connect to opera or is this another issue and not my radio,
any advice would be great

adamlowry1988 said:
iv been searching around and cant seem to find which one is best, most of them cause my data connection to fail for a second or two when i connect to opera or is this another issue and not my radio,
any advice would be great
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Try the Radio I'm using, it's working pretty well, reception is good, data connection is good, give it a go! But you should really test some out before posting a thread as every reply will be different, it's difficult to say which is the 'best'!

I recently upgraded my radio to 2.15.50.14. Since the upgrade I have noticed an increase in battery life++ and less switching between H/3g/2g. Data connections feel much quicker on HSDPA but this is purely anecdotal as I have no speedtest results to compare.
This is on T-mobile UK.
In my experience a Radio that works really well on one network/Country may not be the best choice on a different network/Country.
It doesn't cost anything to flash a Radio, so experiment away. Read the stickies in the ROMs forum to avoid "Bricking" your HD2.

wizzzard said:
I recently upgraded my radio to 2.15.50.14. Since the upgrade I have noticed an increase in battery life++ and less switching between H/3g/2g. Data connections feel much quicker on HSDPA but this is purely anecdotal as I have no speedtest results to compare.
This is on T-mobile UK.
In my experience a Radio that works really well on one network/Country may not be the best choice on a different network/Country.
It doesn't cost anything to flash a Radio, so experiment away. Read the stickies in the ROMs forum to avoid "Bricking" your HD2.
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Where about do you live? I'm about to try your Radio, to see how it goes

How did you get on radio-wise?
I am on tmobile in the uk.
On recent radios ( not tried every single one of course) I get my signal dropping down to 4 dots where I know I get good signal. I just flashed one of the 2.10.x radios and its definitely dropping down to4 dots alot less but still not how it used to be. I will try others in the morning.
I was wondering if there is a definitive list of the best radio depending on which provider you're with?
Thanks.
Yans.

HD2 - Best radio for UK Tmobile
I know it's been asked a thousand times before, but does anybody have actual experiences on the HD2 with Android running of SD, and being on Tmobile?

I must agree, 2.12.50.02.2 does work amazingly. I tested a lot before agreeing to this one. And android seems to connect straight away with it installed. I had 2.08, 2.09 & 2.10 before & had to constantly switch my network connections from WCDMA/GSM (HSPA/3G/GSM) to WCDMA only (HSPA/3G) and back again while running android. However, 2.12 never had the problem.

best radio for hd2 & UK Tmobile
I think I have to agree. I have tried lots of them, but am going back to 2.10 and 2.12, and out of the two, 2.12 seems the better. I also had to contstantly turn my hsdap on and off and on again to get connections as it dropped often. What kind of donwload speeds do you average?