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When can we expect a ROM update from Imate/Dopod ?
Would complete my device to have wireless music on the go!
I heard rumours that it will be available in the next 4 weeks!
if you guys know anyone who owns Wizard and he has updated the test ROM (QTEK) that comes with AKU2 (including wireless stereo) then you can ask them to share the registry entries and the DLL files with you.... and you are set to go
Hi
I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Sim Access Profile capabilkity of the of TyTn to connect with a Bluetooth car kit. I'm trying to get the connection going with a Merc. car kit, but I can't get them to pair.
Thx
Hi petes, I have an slk 55 amg with command and bluetooth. The bluetooth in the command system does not work for pairing with a phone. Even though it says it has bluetooth. To use bluetooth you need an extra module.
Hope this helps...
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...y-arrived-but.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
http://www.wireless4mb.com/phones.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...pic-seems-kit.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
Hi Dale
Thanks. I actually already have the module - the european version of the module is different to the US one in that it uses Sim Access Profile, rather than just acting as a headset. The TyTn says is supports SAP, but I just can't make it work - wondering if anyone's actually got SAP working.
pete S
Hi Petes,
I also have an Mercedes-Benz with the european bluetooth module. But I have a Qtek 9100 updated to AKU2 (Which is supposed to support SAP), but no luck at all. Actually the module can not even identify my phone and display it at the search screen of the comand screen. I tried also with a NOKIA 6230i (SAP Compatible phone) which actually I was able to see at the search list of the comand screen which means that the module is working with SAP compatible phones. What I will do next, is to try again with the new firmware I installed to my 9100 (T-Mobiles 2.21 Version) which has a SAP application for bluetooth (Something like SAP Server).
I can not do it yet because I am abroad and I will be back again 1st of September. I will let you know the results ASAP.
If you have any news from your site with TyTn please let me know because I was intending to change my 9100 to TyTn just for the SAP functionality.
Hi Barsam
The reason you can't find the 9100 when you search with the BT module is that it only looks for devices which identify themselves as Phones. The TyTn (and no doubt the 9100) identify themselves as Pocket PCs and so the (stupid!) Mercedes kit ignores them. The good news is that you can hack the registry to tell the Bluetooth stack that it's a phone. The bad news is that you can't pair with it. Getting it into the search screen doesn't mean it supports SAP - I could see my old T68 just when I was testing. Could you actually pair with the 6230i - i.e. when you see it in the list select Call?
When you're back, PM me and I'll send you the hack.
To tell you the truth I didn't try to pair the 6230i, but it's one of the phones that mercedes have tested on the bluetooth module. If I don't manage to do it with the 9100 I may get a 6230i. At least I can use the one that my brother has to test it and even copy my contacts to comand. Have you tried the hack with the TyTn? Can you tell me what is the the registry set to do that?
Where did you find out that the bluetooth module ignores enything elese than phones?
Make the following registry change
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS]
"COD"=dword:52020C
On your own head etc.. Keep a copy of the current value of course. Then do a soft reset. You'll then see it as a phone. I've tried this, and can now see the phone, but can't pair. I've had a mail back from HTC that they're aware of some problem with the SAP and are working on it.
I wish a nice car kit would be released in the USA that supports SAP/850 & 1900/ external aerial...
hello,
i'm trying to get my TyTN working with my Meceder Command too... does anyone tried the English ROM-Update? Someone wrote that he can use it's TyTN with his Audi after updating the ROM. And tha Audi-MMI-System works also with SAP... perhpas after the ROM-Update it works with Mecedes Command System too...
I haven't tried it yet - I've been waiting for the TyTn update to come along, but nothing from HTC yet. If I don't get anything soon, I'll switch over to the iMate ROM and report back.
I have used a nokia 6233 6280 onmy E55 2005 with B/t Module
The mercedes module in conjuntion with the command system is problimatic, hoever I think I have another peice of the puzzle. With both the above phones they only worked using Vodaphone 3g cards Three 3g cards paired using SAP however could not get recieption....Mercedes say (there guessing) its the way the sim card is configured.....
Mercedes BT
I have a TYTN on order and Im desperate to find a solution to the issue before it arrives.....
As a follow on to my last post ...basically what I THINK found out was if the sim card was configured to work only on a 3G phone..(some networks do this so that they cannot be put in a 2.5g phone and constantly roam on).....then it would pair with the Bluetooth module in Mercedes however never get recieption.
I tried this on several phones including 6233 6280 N80 E61.....just to name a few....ALL PAIRED....however If I put a Vodaofone 3g Card in then IT worked .....IF i put a Three 3G card in it didnt.....BUMMER CAUSE I'm with THREE.....
I hope this helps in some way and Im more than happy to be corrected however these are my first hand expeirnces....I WANT TO USED THE TYTN in my MErc so Im keen to help in amy way....I have unlimited access to phones...so if anyone has any other suggestions Im happy to give it a go....
Mark
At the moment, you'll find that by default the merc kit won't even see the Tytn (it's a pocket pc, not a phone as far as Bluetooth is concerned). You can hack the registry to change this, but then the phone will be seen, but pairing will fail. Hopefully, the forthcoming firmware update will fix this - I've had mail back from HTC support to suggest they know there are problems with the SAP support.
Mercedes BT
Is there anyone who had paired Nokia phones with Mercedes BT(euro spec) successfully? I had tried for several Nokia phones (6230i/6270/6280) to pair with BT ,all failed. I can just find the 16-digit PIN on Comand, no phone appears on Comand. Phone & Comand can't find each other. Do I have to set other setting except the "bluetooth setting" for mobile phone? Even I try to "search for audio enhancements" and 'find no devices' at all .
Thanks Petes,
Did they give any idea on time frames?...Did you have any thoughts about my experience with the different sim cards....
Mark
I am considering buying the HTC TyTN and the Merc Bluetooth module so I am very keen to know if anyone can get this working.
Thanks,
Ady
Nope - no news on timescales I'm afraid - just waiting for the firmware update from HTC. I'm reluctant to try the iMate firmware at the moment - until there's an HTC to go back to in case something goes awry. Has anyone had a chance to try SAP with either of the newer firmwares (iMate or Dopod) - might give us a good clue if the HTC one's going to work.
I've connected my 6230i easily enough, just remember to allow "auto connect without confirmation" on the phone after entering the 16 digit code
I have tried my HW6915 pocket pc but like the other PPC's it is not recognised
A reply I got from HTC support on 21/09/2006 asking about the Merc SAP problem was:
At present the TyTN is only compatable with a limited number of kits. A ROM update will be released shortly to update this.
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So fingers crossed that it will be soon and solve the problem.
I asked them the same thing a while ago and just checked back in on availability. Just got ...
"At present the HTC ROM for the TyTN is being written and tested and we expect it to be released in the very near future."
So, patience is a virtue I hear....
Hi guys,
I have searched up and down this forum and other forums, some problems get close but none of them hits the spot.
I am using an HTC Touch with Windows Mobile 6 Professional, Version: CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3) and link it via Bluetooth with the car navigation system Becker Cascade 7944.
The link is established but calls are muted. Becker had this problem with some other phone models too and brought out an update version 3.7.
Now the calls are not muted anymore, but the sound is distorted. It sounds like the loudspeaker is broken. In short: not usable.
I posted this problem with Becker and after the update version 3.7 they sent me this mail (translated from German):
Dear xxxxxxxxx,
the System-Software 3.7 was sent to a lot of customers as update. Only
positive results came from this and we did receive no negative replies or
complaints except for two models from HTC.
Please contact the manufacturer of the mobile device and ask for a
possible software update.
We regret we can’t give you any other answer.
Sincerely
i. A. Martin xxxxxx
HARMAN/BECKER Automotive Systems GmbH
Quality Customer Service (QC)
Becker-Goering-Straße 16
D-76307 Karlsbad
Then I sent a fax to HTC Europe headquarters asking them for support and /or a solution. Nothing heard from them.
I then sent a fax with the HTC Europe headquarters fax attached to the Chairman of HTC (see www.htc.com) in Taiwan. Same result, no reply!
In the french forum www.planete-htc.com they have a post that the CAB-file WM6_BT_DUN.cab could solve the problem. I have not installed this file yet, since I don't know what it does or if it solves the problem.
Could it be that HTC uses a different bluetooth stack or CODEC-files?
Can anyone help me?
Thanks a lot
baucis99
Hi!
I've got the same problem with an other phone from HTC (MDA Vario 3 from T-Mobile) and my Becker Cascade. Spoke with Becker, no solution in sight. They said I've to talk with the producer of my mobile ..... grrr.
Bye the way, if you make a call and after being connected with the other side you can press "private" in the options menu to give the call back to the phone. Then again press "private" in the options menu and you have a clear connection without distortion!
Bye, Peter (Germany)
PS: Tried the CAB-file, no change
hi @ all I have the same problem with a becker Casscade pro and Firmware 3.61 and - now - 3.70.
This problems is only with HTC devices that have installed Windows mobile 6, (Wings, Kaiser, Touch..) with the older ones like T-Mobile Vario and Windows Mobile 5 it works fine.
by the way the same problem, the other side hear no sound from you, and you hear the other scrambled
and it is not depend to use Sim access profile or normal earphone profile.
maybe i think, the Becker car radios are not longer supported from the manufactur..
the right way is, to change the bluetooth stack on the HTC devices. there are some parameters between mobile and bluetooth called EHR
and this parameters are wrong. maybe by HTC configuration or Becker
A Nokia E61i and many other WM5 devices works well with Becker casscade pro.
i can try tomorrrow some AT&T Models with windows mobile 6 (Samsung and some other) maybe they works...
soon, now i test a becker casscade with a samsung shg 6xx smartphone with WM6.
BT Profile works very well with casscade 3.70 firmware.
so it´s a problem of all actually HTC devices with WM6 i think.
maybe we should change the BT Stack was inatlled as default...
joy.d said:
soon, now i test a becker casscade with a samsung shg 6xx smartphone with WM6.
BT Profile works very well with casscade 3.70 firmware.
so it´s a problem of all actually HTC devices with WM6 i think.
maybe we should change the BT Stack was inatlled as default...
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Hi joy.d,
I thought of the same solution.
I tried one of ROM cooking guys in this forum about how to change the BT software, but no reply.
Do you know how to change the BT stack on the HTC?
By the way I am using the HTC with the Jabra BT320s and the Plantronics Discovery 640X. Both work well.
And the Cascade worked and works with all other phones I know of. There is a forum in Germany for the Cascade and they report only problems with the HTC.
Also, some in this forum have reported BT problems with the HTC Touch.
So, please let me know if the BT software upgrade/change works.
Take care
baucis99
hmm.. i have no time to cook my own rom with fixed bluetooth drivers. (maybe the actually bt version from broadcom, better knows as widcomm stack works well) we think in our company to change from htc to other manufactor, the bt problems not the only one problems ;-)
but if i found somethink i will tell you please let me know if you find something.
p.s. the BT update for htc kaiser dont change or helps.
maybe becker has a problem with her integration of bluetooth.. with the most bluetooth headsets works the htc devices. (i test over 20 different BT Headsets with HTC devices, but the most with WM5)
Same problems
I have the same problems. HTC Mobile 6 with Becker Cascade. To work around this issue, press [Private] in the [Options]Menu, once in a call, and then return back following the same keysequence.
According to the User Manual, Becker only supports the bluetooth HFP1.0 profile...
Hmm, and the Windows Mobile 6 Devices supports:
A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile)
HFP1.0 (Hands-Free Profile)
HSP (Headset Profile)
It´s work with a Samsung blackjack, so i think the Problem is by the provided BT Stack from HTC..
Headset profile
When the connection to the phone is made, a headset icon appears in the upper homescreen. It seems that the headsetprofile is initially used. When you execute the private workaround, the phone switches to handsfree...
hmm, i tried it with this private funktion, but the quality of sound is not really good or better. is not a really funtional workaround. I have test the Becker cascade now with an Asus P750 Phone, and it works well too..
i think it is a HTC Problem.
Cascade Pro + HTC Kaiser
Hi Guys
I am experiencing exactly the same problem with my HTC Kaiser and Becker Cascade Pro 7941. It really makes you upset when no one helps you, becker says its handset manufacturer's fault and HTC dont even bother to reply.
yes, that´s sad. if you found a solutions let it know us, in germany, there are some more users with exactly same problem. :-(
joy.d said:
Hmm, and the Windows Mobile 6 Devices supports:
A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile)
HFP1.0 (Hands-Free Profile)
HSP (Headset Profile)
It´s work with a Samsung blackjack, so i think the Problem is by the provided BT Stack from HTC..
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Hi... not 100% related, but I have an HTC VOX and that works fine with the Becker High Speed Pro 7945 (same software as the Cascade) which I recently flashed to v3.6. The Becker works fine with 2 other HTC phones that I have, SP5 and SDA. The only difference is that the VOX actually displays the signal strength bars on the Becker bottom RH corner...
NOT all roses I am afraid as since I flashed my Becker, I lost ALL navigation functions..... but all other functions including the phone still work...
hi fwd, but your Fox and the other devices is running with Windows mobile 5, right?
With WM5 all devices from HTC works fine with becker
joy.d said:
hi fwd, but your Fox and the other devices is running with Windows mobile 5, right?
With WM5 all devices from HTC works fine with becker
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Hi joy.d...
HTC VOX is a WM6 Standard (one of the first I believe)
SP5 is WM5
SDA is WM2003 Second Edition
uhh, jey thats right, is a HTC S710 ? I try it the next time, if i have one from my users ;-)
Hmm... sad..
joy.d said:
uhh, jey thats right, is a HTC S710 ? I try it the next time, if i have one from my users ;-)
Hmm... sad..
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Yes joy.d, the VOX is the HTC S710... sorry should have mentioned that earlier - it is easier just to refer to it as the VOX
baucis99 said:
Hi joy.d,
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By the way I am using the HTC with the Jabra BT320s and the Plantronics Discovery 640X. Both work well.
And the Cascade worked and works with all other phones I know of. There is a forum in Germany for the Cascade and they report only problems with the HTC.
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Take care
baucis99
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Hi baucis99... are any of these forums in English, and if so, do you have the address ? need some info on transferring maps to cf card...
Thanks
hi snippi
is in german, but feel free to post in english
http://forum.pocketnavigation.de/thread.php?postid=1934905#post1934905
joy.d said:
hi snippi
is in german, but feel free to post in english
http://forum.pocketnavigation.de/thread.php?postid=1934905#post1934905
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Hey that's a good 'handle' !!!
snippi says DANKE... I will give it a go, thanks again
fwd (aka snippi)
Hi everyone,
I want to ask if HERO can connect to any other device at all. I know that bluetooth is very limited in HERO, but all I can do is pair it with other devices, but not connect. I successfully detect and pair it with my PC and my other PDA, but when I try to search for services , nothing is found, which is strange.
I am aming at internet via bluetooth and I even read in one site that it has PAN profile. But not discovering ANY service I think is strange.
Is there any way for me of having PAN without rooting the device
as in this solution:
http://www.gotontheinter.net/content/second-g1-story-proper-bluetooth-tethering-how-short
or should I wait for android 2.0?
Thanks.
New Response From [ HTC (Europe Support (Tech) ]
Sorry, but this is not a feature that the new Android OS supports just yet. We are still waiting on an update from Google that adds this function to the Android devices. We have no date on the update just yet, but we really hope it will not be very long.
there is no solution at this time.
best regards,
HTC Europe Support
Hi all,
Recently got my company car, a Prius, with the Toyota Touch pro nav system in it. This requires Bluetooth DUN support so I will get updates and search, etc.
Unfortunately, I understand from the specs of my HTC Trophy the DUN profile is not supported. My carrier does support Internet tethering, but that is only offered on my phone via WIFI. I would not mind to install a custom ROM or some additional drivers/apps to enable this. Any suggestions or other people with this problem?
And yes, I know, Bluetooth DUN is quite old, but unfortunately, it seems the car industry lags far behind the technological evolution if it comes to there nav systems. I mean; why not just add an iPad dock ?
Thanks all; great site this!