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Mugen 3000 - REVIEWS ONLY

Hey everybody. I would like to start a global thread about Mugen 3000 battery REVIEWS. I would like to ask the moderators of this Forum to try and keep this thread tidy as in let's only keep the reviews here, and the general questions in other threads.

Mugen 3000 Review
Ok... I'll go first.
My two Mugens got here 2 days ago. I got a 3000 and a 1500.
Let's focus on the 3000.
- Back cover: GPS flap is a FAKE. No camera protection lens. Shiny, non-rubberized back (I like it better this way) with 4 little legs to keep it floating a bit above the surface (you hear the speaker better).
- Battery: double size, heavier than the standard.
THE REVIEW ITSELF WILL BE A SUMMARY OF PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AND USAGE TOTALS.
I will keep updating this post of mine as I evaluate the performance of this battery.
Keep in mind that I am a BATTERY FREAK and I test batteries to PERFECTION.
If you don't want to read through this long review, you can skip down to the "FAST FORWARD REVIEW" or to the "CONCLUSIONS". See post number 4 in this thread.
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CHARGE CYCLE 1 - FACTORY DEFAULT
2008-03-26
- Battery came loaded at 63%. After 2 days I'm stuck at 15%. I spoke about 20 minutes on the phone and used the GPS for about 15 minutes. I worked on it about 1 hour adding contacts and such.
- I installed Battery Status for a more correct measurement of the battery but I never saw it disagree with the measurement of the system (in the tray).
- As I said, I am now STUCK at 15%. It was 15% at 16:00 and now it's 23:00 and it's still 15%. Weird. I suppose that it's better than what others described (they needed to reset or remove the battery for the device to realize that there is still some juice in it). We'll see what the following days have to say about this.
2008-03-27
- Battery Status sucks. The program does NOT DETECT CORRECTLY the battery usage, nor does Windows. Today I woke up with my battery at 7%. I soft reseted. Same reading. I shut down Windows and started again. Same 7% reading. I removed battery (with Windows turned on) and put it back again. New reading: 15%. Now after 1 hour I'm at 9% and holding. Almost 3 days of usage with the factory battery. I spoke about 20 more minutes.
- BATTERY DEAD after 2.5 days. Activities total: ~40 minutes phone, ~15 minutes GPS, ~2 hours screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
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CHARGE CYCLE 2 - FIRST FULL CHARGE
2008-03-28
- Full charge this night. 19:00 - 04:00, for a total of 9 hours, just to be sure I respected the instructions for the battery. But it was charged in about 3.5 hours, with about 1.5 hours more than the standard battery. So it charges its capacity pretty fast. Let's see how long it lasts. So far, I'm at 95%. No conversations yet, pretty much no usage. 5% gone in 10 hours, mostly stand by.
- After only 21 hours since the charge, I lost 24% of the battery. I did some text editing for about 30 minutes and about 17 minutes of talk time. I'm pretty disappointed by this relatively "standard" consumption.
2008-03-30
- Two more days passed. I am now at about 64 hours since the charge, so almost 3 days. I used the GPS for about 30 minutes yesterday and talked for about 10 more minutes in total (I don't talk a lot). But the battery is pretty damn low, 28%. I expect it to start dying tomorrow evening. I'll probably remove it and put it back again to see a correct reading.
2008-03-31
- Fourth day approaches its end and I'm stuck at 15%. It appears that my Mugen 3000 has something with this 15% value. It spends a lot of time at 15%. I read that you can stop the device from shutting down when the battery is almost dead by tweaking the registry. I will write the solution here if it proves to be valid. UPDATE: Now at the end of the day, I'm left with 4% juice. I hope there is more under the hood. Today I spoke for about 30 minutes and did no more than 10 minutes of text editing.
2008-04-01
- It's 02:16 (AM) and now it's 94 hours after the full charge. After 5 minutes of talk battery went to 1%. I was too curious about how much there really is left so I removed the battery and put it back. First reading was 44% but it decreased rather fast to 42%. I'll see how it is in the morning. UPDATE: morning, 35%. 10 minutes of talk time so far.
2008-04-02
- At the middle of this day, the Mugen 3000 still holds on. 15% battery after 5.5 days, 10 more minutes of talking. This funny 15% again... been holding already for a few good hours.
- Day end... almost. Battery at 12%. 5 more minutes of talking. So I'm close to 6 days. The Mugen is definitely kicking ass apparently.
2008-04-03
- Only 2% left of my battery now in the morning. Roughtly 6.3 days passed since the charge. I spoke for 20 more minutes.
- BATTERY DEAD after 6.5 days. Activities total: ~102 minutes phone, ~30 minutes GPS, ~40 minutes hours screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
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CHARGE CYCLE 3 - SECOND FULL CHARGE
2008-04-05
- I full-changed it yesterday at about 09 in the AM. Now, after 30 hours (so ~1.3 days) I'm at 69% after 15 minutes of talking and 15 minutes of screen usage (reading / writing). Not such a great number really...
2008-04-06
- After 2.2 days I am at 56%. This is well within the reasonable 20% lost per day I got used with when using the standard battery. I only talked for 9 minutes today so far, and pretty much didn't use the phone for anything else. Since I didn't use the GPS, I find it the ok-ish level of the battery quite explainable. It's good to use the phone like this because I will make a review which is centered on exclusive Phone usage. And right now I'm happy with how things are.
2008-04-07
- Battery @ 31% after 3.2 days and 6 more minutes of talking. I'm satisfied with this so far and expect the battery to last for about 36 more hours until it first dies. This should take me to 5 days. We'll see if I reach the 5 days and how does Windows behave with the registry tweak I made last week. If it auto-shuts down again it sucks. It means I'll have to take the battery out and put it back again every 4 or 5 days, which sucks!
2008-04-08
- Guess what's the battery consumption today. 15%, of course. The famous 15%. It was 15% 12 hours ago, it's the same now. I expect it to start dying really soon though. I talked for 22 more minutes today so far and 4.2 days passed since the full charge. EVENING UPDATE: After 16 more minutes of talk I'm crushed at 7%. However, I will not remove the battery and put it back again to get a real reading. I will wait to see if the registry tweak works or not.
2008-04-09
- After exactly 5 days, I got 40% left. Today I spoke for 15 minutes so far. UPDATE: evening at 5.5 days, battery left: 28% after 11 more minutes of talk.
2008-04-10
- Exactly 6.1 days @ 11%. Pretty disappointing really, considering that I haven't used the GPS at all. But I talked for 51 more minutes, so that is probably what drove the battery down. UPDATE: At 6.5 days I got only 4% left after 10 more minutes of talking.
- BATTERY DEAD after 6.6 days. So this is how the Kaiser behaves as PHONE ONLY. Activities Total: ~155 minutes phone (so 2 hours and 35 minutes), ~20 minutes screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
WILL CONTINUE NEXT WEEK WITH A GPS ONLY REVIEW, let's see how this baby performs on a long GPS run.

weekend (from fri 6pm to sun 9pm) - bluetooth on, one hour talking, email checked every 30 min -after 2 days i had 30%
regular day f(from 7am to 6 pm) - - 1 hour, playing games (1 hour), phone 1 hour , email every 30min - batery status 50%

Mugen 3000 Review - CONTINUED
FAST FORWARD REVIEW
CHARGE CYCLE 1 - FACTORY DEFAULT
2008-03-26 - So far I am very happy with the way the battery behaved, especially considering that I use it the first time, no charges yet.
2008-03-27 - 2.5 days is ok for a first-time use of the battery. I'm very pissed off that I can't have accurate battery readings from any program!
CHARGE CYCLE 2 - FIRST FULL CHARGE
2008-03-28 - Pretty disappointed because of fast consumption with relatively nothing done with the phone. It's still the first cycle so I have hope for better at the next cycle. Also, probably the readings from BatteryStatus aren't correct and the power is a bit higher than it says.
2008-03-30 - 28% after some long GPS usage and a bit of talking is reasonably well. I'm waiting for the second full charge to draw more conclusions. Also waiting to see the battery reading after I pull it out at 0% and put it back again.
2008-04-01 - This is not an April's Fool joke. I'm very happy with the Mugen 3000 so far. 4.5 days and it's still holding strong even after GPS and talking.
2008-04-03 - Battery dead after 6.5 days - a very good result considering that I used the GPS (30 minutes) and talked in a normal way (102 minutes), without restraining myself.
CHARGE CYCLE 3 - SECOND FULL CHARGE
2008-04-05 - 31% of gone in 30 hours at the second full charge. Not so great really, considering I haven't spoken so much.
2008-04-07 - Almost 3.5 days and I'm at 30%. Acceptable by any standards, especially considering that the battery is actually at more than 30% if I remove it and put it back again.
2008-04-10 - I expected more bang from the battery since I didn't use the GPS, but I talked quite a bit. The Windows Registry tweak is bull**** apparently, the device still autoshutdowns when reaching 0%. Even if the battery is really at 50%. Very very annoying!!!
2008-04-11 - I used the Kaiser in PHONE ONLY mode for this period. It lasted about 6 days and 16 hours
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CONCLUSIONS
THE GOOD:
- About 70% to 90% more juice than the standard battery. This baby really has a lot of energy to give and it will last you A LOT.
- Stated capacity (3000 mAh) is pretty much what you get. So Mugen didn't lie about this (too much). Considering that the standard battery is rated at 1350 and this one does not really last twice as much, it's probably less than 3000, but it's still a great performer.
THE BAD:
- Big size, heavy.
- Delivered back cover is a poor match to the phone.
THE TERRIBLE:
- There is NO WAY to read the battery accurately. Let me repeat that. THERE IS NO WAY TO READ THE BATTERY ACCURATELY. This SUCKS!!! The registry tweak I tried does NOT work and Windows simply shuts down when the battery reaches 0%, even though the battery is NOT dead. You need to REMOVE and put the battery back 2 to 4 times in order to really kill it. First time Windows reaches 0%, the battery is actually at 44%. You must TAKE the back cover OUT, then REMOVE the battery, then PUT IT BACK AGAIN and ONLY THEN you get the accurate reading. This is a very big downside of this battery and I suggest you think very well at this before you buy it.
ALL IN ALL:
- I'm happy ::- ). That's because I'm a battery freak and I like to have a very long lasting battery in any phone I own. So far, this is the best battery I had in my entire life in a phone. A battery that lasts almost 7 days after you talk for 2 hours and a half is GREAT. But I don't think I'll use it always. It's very very disturbing having to remove it every few days a couple of times. I think I'm going to keep it for long journeys and use it from time to time so that it doesn't degrade. I will probably use this one for a month than switch to the standard one for another month and so on.

Your way of testing the battery is not accurate because its not a consistant drain from 1 minute to the next. You should start with your OEM battery and use that as the benchmark. To do the test, first fully charge the OEM battery. Turn off the phone radio so you dont get incoming calls or SMS, turn on wifi, run a gps program to activate the GPS, turn on BT, play a video clip and set it on repeat, set the screen brightness to the max. The video clip playing on repeat will prevent the screen from turning off. Doing all this will create a constant and consistant drain on the battery. Now with everything is going, unplug the charger and start the timer. check on the battery level every 10 minutes and record the battery life until the phone shuts off. Once that's done, start the test with 3000mah battery. Doing the test this way will let you know at which point the battery meter becomes inaccurate for the 3000mah. When the test is done you can also calculate the exact battery capacity of the 3000mah. I've done a test like this for my 2800mah battery and it yield 2950mah when it was a week old then 2850mah when it's about 3 months old.

Does this seem wrong to anyone else (battery stats inside)

ok so my phone has been off the charger for ;
5h 23m 17s
I am at 56% battery.
What concerns me is that my display usage is at 56% of my battery usage with just 22m 27s of usage.
now if I do the math that means the display has used 25.76% of a full charge in just over 20 mins of use.
This seems absurd especially for what is supposedly a more efficient display. Do these numbers seem on par or do I have a faulty battery/device?

Has it been conditioned? I know conditioning does nothing to the battery itself, but it does cause the percentages to reflect more accurately.
Also, was it fully charged 5 hours ago when you took it off the charger? If not these numbers are meaningless.
I suggest comparing multiple charge cycles, not one strange instance.

AndroidZ28 said:
Has it been conditioned? I know conditioning does nothing to the battery itself, but it does cause the percentages to reflect more accurately.
Also, was it fully charged 5 hours ago when you took it off the charger? If not these numbers are meaningless.
I suggest comparing multiple charge cycles, not one strange instance.
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No, I have not conditioned, the phone.
Yes it is coming off of a full charge.
This is the first day I have taken it off the charger for the full day. I have had it connected to computers via USB to install music apps and get it rooted since I got it so I do not have any other cycles to compare it to accurately.

To be honest these batts do not need conditioning, they have no memory effect.
OP Display is nearly always the most. Unless you make long calls (which could make calls the highest) or never use the phone (stand by would be the highest)...
I would be far more concerned if an app or other device function was at the top of the list other than display.

I had initial concerns about the battery when I got this phone. Now that I have settled into a normal usage pattern (few videos, email, web surfing, Facebook, etc.) I get a full day (7am-10pm) out of a charge.
Just use it as you normally would and don't worry too much about the numbers. See how long it lasts and then adjust as needed. You can disable something that you don't need at that particular moment and make a big difference (like turning off Auto-Sync when you don't need to be constantly updated of your friends Facebook status or turning off 3G when you aren't going to be surfing).

SykesAT said:
To be honest these batts do not need conditioning, they have no memory effect.
OP Display is nearly always the most. Unless you make long calls (which could make calls the highest) or never use the phone (stand by would be the highest)...
I would be far more concerned if an app or other device function was at the top of the list other than display.
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The fact that the display was on top is not what is concerning me it is the percentage of the full charge it used that has me worried.
In the total time off the charger at the time of these stats I used 46% of the battery. 56% of the 46% was for the display. That means that in 22 mins my display ate 25% of my full battery, which would equal out to my phone being dead with 1h 20m of screen time assuming no other resource used the battery.

short battery life with CM7

I am running CM7 on a D2 and i am experiencing pretty short battery life. I went from Liberty 2.0 rom on froyo last week, and upgraded to GB and flashed CM7.
I have barely used it much today for example. Took it off the charger at 6:30am have done nothing more than sent a few texts and browsed a website for about 10 mins. It is 10:30 and i am already at 70%
I did a proper battery stat reset this past weekend also.
(i have also been getting a lot of random force closes)
since i cannot post pics here's relevant info...
Android version - 2.3.5
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9-gca08d89
Mem Info - 214/475
Mod version - CyanogenMod-7.1.0-RC0-DROID2-KANG
Build Number - GRH78C
Battery info...
Display - 42%
Phone Idle - 18%
Cell Standby - 15%
everything else is under 8%, Android OS and System at 2%

CM7 GB Battery Issues
I am having this problem as well. Ever since I rooted and installed Rev's CM7 GB build a few days ago battery life has been much worse. I tried installing Jake's Mods V13 but if it is helping it is not helping alot. Yesterday, made 2 short phone calls, sent 3-4 texts, browsed web for maybe 10 minutes total, and was on tweetdeck for maybe 15 minutes. By end of the day was down to 30% battery. Pre-root and CMY probably would have been about 60% - 70%. Here are the battery stats when plugged it in at bed time last night:
15h 16m 23s on battery
Cell Standby 55%
Phone Idle 19%
Display 13%
Voice Calls 9%
Android OS 2%
TweetDeck 2%
Has anyone figured out a solution to this? Really liking CM7 but I am afraid to play a game or something on the phone because I'm afraid I will run out of juice!

CM7 does have a shorter battery life than stock and some other ROMs. It's still the best ROM and it will eventually be back to better battery life. I use SetCPU and JuiceDefender.

Should I go into the CPU settings on my phone to find ways to increase my battery life? If so, which setting should I alter?

I have been using the 1Ghz/undervolt option in Jakebitesmod along with Juice Defender and it seems to be helping. Battery will usually last me all day with moderate use.

You might want to try SBFing back and starting from scratch. I was on Liquid 3.0 and has atrocious battery life due to the 'Idle' process and was seeing 10-15% battery life drop each hour when there was absolutely no use.
I switched to CM7 and things were much happier. Maybe 10% loss after 4 hours idle. FB app did drain the battery once but I think I backed out of it while it was loading so it was trying to load GPS or something but outside of that no battery life problems what so ever.

Phone will not deep sleep below ~40%

Here is a puzzle. Overall problem statement is that when the battery level is below 40%, the battery drains quickly with minimum wakelocks. In other words, the phone does not "deep sleep" when battery percentage is below 40%.
My definition of "deep sleep" is battery drain slows to less than 1%/hr and this is usually shown in the battery graph as a near horizontal line.
Phone: Samsung i337m (Telus)
ROM: Kitkat 4.4.2 NE1 Odin flash firmware, so everything is NE1.
Other info: Towelrooted, Xposed Framework installed
Below is a screenshot dump of the battery info, BBS, and Wakelock Detector (WLD).
Observe that BBS and WLD are logging since last unplugged at ~1.5 hrs ago. So when you look at the battery info screenshot, please take into account the last 1.5 hr time on the right hand side only. If you look carefully, there isn't too many wakelocks. This is confirmed by BBS and WLD.
Only exception is in the last SS in WLD showing NILS program keeping the screen on for 8 min & 32 sec, which doesn't really make sense.
Check out the last SS for the Poor Battery Drain batch to show that battery drain is much higher at 1.2%/hr over a 7 hour period. This is compared to 0.7%/hr over a similar 7 hour period. The only difference is the starting battery level.
Good Battery Drain SS posted for comparison purposes and to illustrate my point
Based on the above, my only theory is that the battery calibration is off such that below 40% the battery has drained much more than indicated....
Any other ideas or suggestions to fix this problem?
Poor Battery Drain
Good Battery Drain

Appalling battery life of G2

I got a new LG G2 f320 with 2661 mAmp battery. Yes, it is slightly less (2610mAh) than the international version (3000mAh), but G2 is supposed to have great battery life regardless.
So I tried LP rom and got like 20h battery life. I discharged battery to 0, then charged it till full while the phone was off. Twice. I downgraded to KitKat CloudyG2 2.2 and applied various battery tweaks, mostly those two:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/best-google-play-services-google-search-t2885111
- http://www.reddit.com/r/lgg2/comments/2nag0f/help_me_get_more_battery_life/ (post by madboymatt)
I also disabled LG Health, have GPS on off, WiFi is on only for several minutes per 24 hours and I have Smart Network Xposed mod which switches data off and 2G on whenever the screen is off. I am also in a very good reception area.
Together with automatic airplane mode (between 1am and 8:30am) one would I would imagine this gives decent battery life, right?
Wrong.
I get ~22 hours battery life with 1h 30 min Screen on time. I doubt this is normal. I got better results with my old S4 Mini with worn down battery.
Tell me this is not normal and I do not have unrealistic expectations.
BetterBatteryStats tells me that the phone is in deep sleep for 17+ hours. The only partial kernel wakelocks that rise some minor suspicions are:
Checkin Service, count 419
RILJ, count 12 000 (I suppose this is normal as it is radio?)
BlockBeforeSleep, count 2300 (I have no idea what it is and I could not find any information about it here on XDA))
What is going on and what else can I do?

This is not normal...
I get 5 to 7 hours of screen on time on my d802.
After flashing a new rom, wait a day or two before testing battery - it may be doing some initial processing.
Try without your various battery optimising tricks, they should not be necessary to get reasonable battery time.
Try checking with gsam app, maybe it will reveal something that bbb doesn't.

I have been using this rom since over a week now so it should settle by now, and disabling battery optimisation tricks can only hurt the battery life.

I start to think that the battery might be bad. Is there some way to check whether its original and what is its real capacity?