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No speed increase with 1.4 pri

I finally after 7 hours of work, got my PRI updated to 1.4 and got all my original stuff back and I am updated to the tilt with all current version of everything.
I just finished my speed tests and have found that this 1.4 PRI update has done nothing to increase my 3g speed.
Backstory:
My speed at work dropped from 1mb in June to 125kb (looks like it is capped) two weeks ago. I have done everything in my power to fix it. Nothing has worked and Sprint is not saying anything.
Hope this saves someone time and effort.

There was a tower at my house that was bad. Packet loss was in the thousands when I looked at it on my aircard. It took them over a year to fix it.
I had the same issue you did. went from good speeds to crap.

Did yours appear to be capped? My speed hits that 128kb mark and just stops, everytime.

I've had pretty much the same exact thing in my house... Went from 1mb+ on 3g to around 200-300 kbs. However, after the PRI update I am getting a slight raise in dl speed. around 500-600 now....
My signal strength is still weak and has not improved at all however, which is what I was really hoping for with the pri update....
Honestly...all of this bullsht with sprint makes me want to go back to tmobile. I left them because I was getting terrible signal strength...but i'm getting the same thing with sprint. /: at least tmobile has beast 3g speeds and the vibrant........
ahhh well. I still love my Evo.

Its a known fact that sprint is capping data.
PRI updates only affect a small percentage of users, used for when sprint brings new towers online. Chances are you have no new towers in your area.

Unfortunately, this is the wrong forum to post this, so you may get flamed.
Pri does not affect speed directly, it affects your data access times...pings. So with the new update and possibly lower pings, you will generally see faster response times in the web browser as compared to what you have had before.

Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4

I now have 4g after this update

aman1127 said:
I now have 4g after this update
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lol.... what?

I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.

Nothing changed for me, still around 1MB... I didn't really expect anything but why not... BTW Those that are complaining about horrible signal at home address, call sprint and have them give you airave for free. I did that on my first month of service and been much happier ever since.

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I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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I agree, but there is something to be said for sprint pushing/making the update available.
In any case, I've found that the sprint network can not be considered anywhere near consistent, 3g or 4g, pri 1.34 or 1.40.

jasecloud4 said:
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I don't know if they do throttle or maybe its a case by case thing. Last month I used 13gbs of data since this is now my primary source of internet. I still get 2-3mbps
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Sawawa said:
I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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+1 agreed.
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damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.

v_lestat said:
damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.
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Yup. You can download however fast you want but if you can't connect to the server itself in a timely manner then that fast down speed doesn't really matter.

jasecloud4 said:
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I have to see what I used in July, probably 2g...however, my speed didn't pick up when August hit. Anyway, I just posted this because I saw the instruction thread on the PRI was closed. Well, I will just keep calling Sprint and telling them my work zip code sucks now.

I can confirm there is no 3G speed difference between PRI 1.40_003 & 1.34_003 as I have run speedtest.net on my wife's unrooted Evo and mine simultaneously. Our speeds are similar and also similarly vary between 200 - 1100 kbps while driving from downtown San Francisco heading north for 20 minutes or so.
I'm guessing poor 3G speeds are determined by specific tower and load - but definitely not by PRI version.
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No difference here and it broke the prl hack i use to get evdo service. I reverted back to eng build and all is good again. Minus the 7 hours of pri fix attempts.
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EVO connected threw Clearwire relm, 10mps down 1.5 up! IS SPRINT LIMITING BANDWIDTH?

I purchased internet service straight from Clearwire and changed my evo settings on the 4G side exclusively to Clearwire settings. My best speed with Sprint was 3.5mps now I am getting ten mps? What am I missing here? My brother has a TMobile g1 that was always getting better speeds than me. That promted me to want to research this. I am told by Clearwire reps that Sprint uses a technology called MIP to help lock on to towers which can cause slower speeds. Anyone aware of this MIP technology?
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Would that really surprise you?
Although, didn't Sprint claim us EVO people who were paying the $10 extra would get "unlimited" speed? Well unlimited within the capabilities of the 4G service anyway.
Wouldn't that be fraud then?

kdoggy said:
Would that really surprise you?
Although, didn't Sprint claim us EVO people who were paying the $10 extra would get "unlimited" speed? Well unlimited within the capabilities of the 4G service anyway.
Wouldn't that be fraud then?
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Yes, I think you should sue Sprint.

There's people posting that are getting 9/10 mbps on sprint 4g.
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I get 8mb on average, 9mb max on 4g using speedtest app on phone, not even tethering..

I usually get around 9-10mpbs but I have peaked at 13mpbs.
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Sprint does not cap download speeds. They do currently cap upload speeds to 1mbps.

no they dont cap, they throttle the network which is just as bad, in my area there are 4 antennas which blanket the whole town, one side is closer to 1Mbps the other 3-4Mbps, the other 2 in between 1-3 but in peraland just 2 streets down theres a 5th that covers just that area of pearland and there i reach 8-9 and where i am the evo wont stay on 4g longer then a minute before losing the signal
@simon what do you mean by change the settings to clear? i thought that you just turn it on and off...theres a settings page for 4g?

gotten 8-9mbps on evo's at best buy and around the sprint store location. Getting about 3-5mbps about 5-10miles from those locations

look at my sig.. i had a mt3g and now have the evo. i use mobilespeedtest for the mytouch because i wasnt getting good speed results with speedtest app. on the evo the speed test app was better
forgot to answer the mip tech thing. when i had an issue with my phone i had to reset the tower from where i purchased the phone to where i live. i had to drive 150 miles round trip for the phone. when i got back it was all messed up. had to reset some settings like update prl and stuff to get the new tower connected. im guessing everytime you go somewhere and plan to stay for a while or youre getting slow speeds try rebooting phone and see if that helps. but anyway you already switched, so yah

I got 11mb in silicone valley.

Last-Chance said:
gotten 8-9mbps on evo's at best buy and around the sprint store location. Getting about 3-5mbps about 5-10miles from those locations
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It always nice by those BB's and certain Sprint stores! They love to use repeaters so when they sell you the service it always works so nice for demo purposes.......waiting the Sprint store 2 miles from the house to get theirs..The store mgr has been saying any week now it should be installed for the last 2 months. Hopefully it will share some of those 4G's with me! If and when it gets installed. 4G's---still lol'n

It appears that there is there is a speed increase by merely changing the realm to clearwire-wmx.net from sprintpcs.com. In addition to speed, ping times were reduced from 400ms to 100ms.
It appears that the sprint wimax realm is limited somehow. QOS? At any rate, sprints 4g appears to be crippled.
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imcdona said:
It appears that there is there is a speed increase by merely changing the realm to clearwire-wmx.net from sprintpcs.com. In addition to speed, ping times were reduced from 400ms to 100ms.
It appears that the sprint wimax realm is limited somehow. QOS? At any rate, sprints 4g appears to be crippled.
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how did you switch it? i wanna try it and see if it changes my dl speed at all

@zeuzinn all the evidence thus far seems to contradict your statement. Have you tried changing you realm to clearwire-wmx.net?
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manooti said:
how did you switch it? i wanna try it and see if it changes my dl speed at all
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Exactly what he said, how exactly do you switch?

flyingwolf said:
Exactly what he said, how exactly do you switch?
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##3282# > Edit Mode > put in your MSL > select WiMax. In there is an option to change your realm
...in 1943, I killed a drifter.

Chem_Guy said:
I got 11mb in silicone valley.
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I got 69mb down on your mom!

imcdona said:
@zeuzinn all the evidence thus far seems to contradict your statement. Have you tried changing you realm to clearwire-wmx.net?
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No. Trying it now
Update: Didn't work for me. I open up the browser and it says "Clear has an important message for you" with a continue button right below. I click on it and get redirected to Clear.com. Same thing happens if I try to go to any website.

Clear is a load of crap i had them and i only would get dial up speeds and on my evo i get 5 mps to 11 mps mostly 11 mps downtown so far and unlimited no caps
HTC EVIL PHONE

3g data speed sux.

Is anyone else experiencing slow 3g speeds? Iam talking about speeds like 15-70kbps down. Ever since two weeks ago the data speed here in Wisconsin is so slow its retarded. Just wondering if this is happening elsewhere.
Yes I've tried different roms, kernnel, and phones. Pri,prl,radios are all up to dated also.

shif7i7down said:
Is anyone else experiencing slow 3g speeds? Iam talking about speeds like 15-70kbps down. Ever since two weeks ago the data speed here in Wisconsin is so slow its retarded. Just wondering if this is happening elsewhere.
Yes I've tried different roms, kernnel, and phones. Pri,prl,radios are all up to dated also.
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No issue noticed in Michigan.
I would call *2 and let them know your issue and they can check if there's any outages.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890158
My speeds from last night.

Yea!!!!
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mattykinsx said:
No issue noticed in Michigan.
I would call *2 and let them know your issue and they can check if there's any outages.
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yes I tried. They hung up on me once and I got disconnected a few times after that. So I went in to the sprint store and ask, they said that their 4g is down and everyone on 4g is pushed over to the 3g network so that's why its slows. But it sounded like BS, cause Theres no 4g hete in Wisconsin

Glockshooter said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890158
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119mb down. ? I call BS

Yea!!! I'm on Milwaukee area and my 3g really sux with full bar, my friend G2 her speed test go from 3.5 to 4.11 Wtf
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What part of michigan I'm in detroit añd get his speeds.
mattykinsx said:
No issue noticed in Michigan.
I would call *2 and let them know your issue and they can check if there's any outages.
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Glockshooter said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890158
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That's not your speeds. That's how much you've downloaded. Wirless/wired tether app, right?

Lmao Wtf its not 4G in Wisconsin they don't know wat they talking about they bs bro
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I'm in wisconsin and I get around 700 down and about 1000 up consistently
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nuggyunlimited said:
What part of michigan I'm in detroit añd get his speeds.
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I'm gonna change my comment I just ran a speed test and it went to the 2g icon for the first time in a long long time.

Just 1 time I got 2.0 mbps at 6am lol after that 0.80 mbps or 0.50 my friend t-mobile speed test 4.00mbps n up smh
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Glockshooter said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890158
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twiz0r said:
I'm in wisconsin and I get around 700 down and about 1000 up consistently
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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if that's the case then it might just be the Milwaukee area that's effected or is it all big cities that's effected

I was on Chicago I did a speed test on 4g n I got 5.10 mbps super nice drive back to Wisconsin .80 mbps lol smh
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shif7i7down said:
if that's the case then it might just be the Milwaukee area that's effected or is it all big cities that's effected
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I been having 3G issues all day too here in Delaware, but strangely 4G has been working flawless for me
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I'm by the Michigan Ohio border, and I have had this problem for over 2 months now. At home and where I work, I'm less than a block from a tower at both locations, and used to get about 2000kbps down and 1500kbps up consistantly. About 2 months ago, it got horrible. On average, I get around 40kbps down and 10kpbs up. Sometimes it doesnt work at all. This happens anywhere I go. But, once in a while I would get normal speeds, usually only early in the morning, then the rest of the day/night it would be bad again.
After spending hours on the phone with sprint, refreshing the network, and doing 2 factory resets, they decided it was a hardware problem. I took the phone in, they agreed, and gave me a brand new evo. For a few days, it worked better, not as good as it was, but better at least. Then a few days later it got worse again.
I have since done 3 factory resets, had engineers from sprint come out, and they say everythings fine. Whats weird, the other day I was at a friends house, who only gets verizon signal at his house. While roaming on the verizon towers, I got normal speeds again, around 1800kbps down. So obviously there isnt a problem with the phone again, as the 3g seems to work fine there. I have been calling sprint every few days, and they have no clue whats going on, they say nobody else in the area has called in about this.
I'm giving this another month, and then I'm permanently leaving sprint. Data is the main thing I use my phone for, and I cant load webpages or stream pandora.
Sorry for the long rant haha but I thought I would let you know I'm having the same problem.

socal here
me and my gf's epic are having HORRIBLE 3g speeds..100-200 kbps...I used to have ~800..its been like that for around 2 weeks now...last saturday i went to la puente california and speeds out there were ok..~600kbps...but where i live and where I work..3g speeds are pure crap...

No problems here in Sacramento, getting 100-140KBps d/l, 100KBps u/l.

Ok for the past 7 days me been getting slow speeds like rev o my ups wont go over 150kb and down wont go higher then 1mps no more use to get like 2.4mps stable then i heard from sprint engeniers that there gonna realease ev do rev b and wimax wave 2 on new years or on jan 6 when dan heeae anccounce it and that y 3g been caps atm
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I dont get it.. whats up with my data speeds?

My data speeds have gotten slower and slower over the past couple of months. I cant even stream a youtube video without it buffering to hell. WTF SPRINT! I know I cant be getting throttled hell my billing cycle just started.

My speeds go up and down.. Some days thier fast and smooth and some days their just slow and laggy. I dont get it...

Yeah I have the same slowdown for my data speed as well. First I thought it was just me and all my flashing addiction but after seeing this glad I'm not the only one who noticed it.

I noticed this over the last week.
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The last 2 weeks have been getting worse and worse for me. I am going to call sprint tomorrow.
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Have you paid attention to what time of day data speed slows down? Could be just the network being overloaded in your area. For example I start work at 7am and if I run a SpeedTest during 6:50a-8ish I am in the 700-800kb range in my office. If I run the same test after 10a I see anywhere from 200-500kbs. The worst is near lunch hour and after 3pm....damn kids! lol

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Have you paid attention to what time of day data speed slows down? Could be just the network being overloaded in your area. For example I start work at 7am and if I run a SpeedTest during 6:50a-8ish I am in the 700-800kb range in my office. If I run the same test after 10a I see anywhere from 200-500kbs. The worst is near lunch hour and after 3pm....damn kids! lol
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Mines has gotten terrible no matter what time - and I check at the dead of night most of the time. Used to get 1.5-2 Mbps, down to .5-1 Mbps now-a-days.

.1-.4 mbps up and down all day and nite, from. .8-1.2 up and down.
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This is what happens when carriers keep adding subscribers, but are unable to keep their backhaul data pipes expanding. They need subscribers in order to build infrastructure, so we the consumer suffer in the meantime.
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nicastro78 said:
This is what happens when carriers keep adding subscribers, but are unable to keep their backhaul data pipes expanding. They need subscribers in order to build infrastructure, so we the consumer suffer in the meantime.
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I also have to imagine that Android being Sprint's biggest smart OS doesn't help. WinMo/BB just kind of idles when it.. idles. Android on the other hand is built to have constant background data updating, now add a bunch of both old and new subscribers who don't know better and leave the short default polling of their thousand and one apps, and you got a scaling problem.

Its quite annoying. Forget trying to stream anything its pointless lol. There was a point where I could watch netflix with no buffer, now it takes it like 20 minutes just to get to the point where itll actually play. I dont even use it much anymore because as soon as it finally plays the buffer will kick right back in. DAMN I really dont want to have to get this AT&T DSL garbage.

Same issue with me in Wisconsin.
Had 2 friends standing next to me, 1 Verizon 1 AT&T...They both passed the 2mb mark while I chugged along at 350ish k
I used to get awesome service outside Milwaukee but now it seems like complete crap

I called sprint today about the slow data issue, I'm in green bay wi. She told Mr that a lot of people on Wisconsin have been complaining about slow data speeds. Something about waiting to get approval to add something to their towers to speed up data. Who knows it sounds fishy to me, thank God I have roam control to get better speed off Verizon's towers.
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globen said:
I called sprint today about the slow data issue, I'm in green bay wi. She told Mr that a lot of people on Wisconsin have been complaining about slow data speeds. Something about waiting to get approval to add something to their towers to speed up data. Who knows it sounds fishy to me, thank God I have roam control to get better speed off Verizon's towers.
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Please enlighten me as to how to do this. Im in Menomonee Falls and 99% of the time my speeds are sub par to say the least.

Me and 4 other EVO owners have noticed this in the Phoenix area :-(

globen said:
I called sprint today about the slow data issue, I'm in green bay wi. She told Mr that a lot of people on Wisconsin have been complaining about slow data speeds. Something about waiting to get approval to add something to their towers to speed up data. Who knows it sounds fishy to me, thank God I have roam control to get better speed off Verizon's towers.
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I thought roaming data was limited to 1X speeds or something ridiculously slow?

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Me and 4 other EVO owners have noticed this in the Phoenix area :-(
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Are they all rooted?

I used to get about 1.5mb now I only get about .5mb. Something has to be going on here It just don't seem right.
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I noticed my 3g going to crap over the past month because I stream Pandora all day. Plus just looking at the bars I could tell the signal was not as good (I haven't run any speed tests).
Discovered today however that my 4g now rocks! I'll be using 4g as often as possible now. I didn't notice a big difference in battery drain because while 3g struggled, 4g flew, so I think that evened out.
This is my subjective opinion of course.

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Me and 4 other EVO owners have noticed this in the Phoenix area :-(
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Same here, I work in downtown Phoenix and it's POINTLESS trying to stream anything over 64k quality after 2pm. I thought it was Pandora sucking, so I switched to shoutcast on Xiialive, same thing. In the morning it's fine for the most part, but once all the kids get home from school the entire network goes to crap. I don't care about 4g, I just want decent 3g... oh yeah, my speeds are .6mbs in the evening and at the slowest i'm pushing .09mbs per speedtest.net app.

Letter of warning from sprint concerning roaming.

Gosh, got a letter of warning from sprint yesterday. For a couple of months I'd been using the .00001 hack to use Verizon's network. A couple if weeks ago I switched to a normal prl.
They sent me a letter explaing that if ididnt trim back my data roaming, they would shut off my phone. Having done a cost comparison, I can't afford to switch companies. I'm on a sprint employees plan that was linked to sero. Plus the other folks don't allow unlimited data anymore.
Just wanted to give a caution to those of us using the prl hack, they are watching. Thankfully I'd made the switch before I even got the letter and now have roaming blocked with cyanomod v7
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You are lucky that you only received a warning. There are plenty of reports here from people that were not given a choice to terminate service with Sprint. They most defiantly keep a lookout for excessive roaming.

I wonder if it matters on location or how you use their data. I used to do a lot of roaming and never got a letter like that.
Also do you mind linking me to the roam/prl hack?
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I actually asked a Sprint rep if i could force my phone to roam permanently on Verizon and what the repercussions were. She asked me kinda stunned, why would you want to do that? I told her so i could get the data speeds that sprint can't provide. She told me that they would catch it immediately because many, many people are doing that.

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I actually asked a Sprint rep if i could force my phone to roam permanently on Verizon and what the repercussions were. She asked me kinda stunned, why would you want to do that? I told her so i could get the data speeds that sprint can't provide. She told me that they would catch it immediately because many, many people are doing that.
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If I were to do this, would this be a way to opt out of sprints contract?

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If I were to do this, would this be a way to opt out of sprints contract?
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basically... yes

I got one of those letters after three months of roaming. We're both lucky they didn't can us lol.
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Baby_Phil said:
I got one of those letters after three months of roaming. We're both lucky they didn't can us lol.
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Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it

playya said:
Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it
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I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.

playya said:
Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it
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I've been using the 0001 PRL and my speeds have improved a decent bit. I seem to be able to buffer Netflix and play an online game like Galcon with less noticeable lag.
The sad thing is, right when I got the EVO 4G, within the first few months, Sprint's 3G speeds easily beat Verizon's. Verizon's speeds are good, but not great, but Sprint's network has been so congested that it merely offers mediocre speeds for me now.
I also don't get voice signal with Sprint at my new place, whereas the Verizon prl gives me signal.
I'll just switch back to a Sprint PRL as soon as I get a warning letter.

I switched back because I didn't see a noticeable speed difference in my area.
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Well Sprint gonna release EVDO REV B which will give us EVO users 5mb down and 1mb up on 3G but for the EVO 3D user and epic 4G touch will get 14mb down and 10mb up on 3G
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sitlet said:
I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.
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+1
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How do I change my prl to that Verizon one?
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pfcland said:
Well Sprint gonna release EVDO REV B which will give us EVO users 5mb down and 1mb up on 3G but for the EVO 3D user and epic 4G touch will get 14mb down and 10mb up on 3G
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Whens that going to happen & when they release it do we have to update PRL, how does that work?

sitlet said:
I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.
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Yep same here. I have a constantly open ticket at Sprint for their poor data. I told them this when asking if i could roam permanently. I told them that roaming on any other network was faster then Sprint.

Where is the link for changing the PRL to .0001

Verizon PRL hack link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073
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for the people that got the warnings, how much roaming data did you use for the past few months? What is considered excessive?