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[DEV] Xamarin XobotOS

Hello xda devs,
I am a day-1 Android user (good old G1), hobbyst Java developer and good experienced .NET developer.
I am very interested in XobotOS project (https://github.com/xamarin/XobotOS)
Xamarin did a little testing on an HTC Flyer and Acer Iconia Tab, does anyone think that it would be possible to run Xobot on our beloved Nexus S?
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Android Ported to C#

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genez81 said:
Hello xda devs,
I am a day-1 Android user (good old G1), hobbyst Java developer and good experienced .NET developer.
I am very interested in XobotOS project (https://github.com/xamarin/XobotOS)
Xamarin did a little testing on an HTC Flyer and Acer Iconia Tab, does anyone think that it would be possible to run Xobot on our beloved Nexus S?
blog post from Icaza:
Android Ported to C#
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I really dont see why not. It being ported to C# should mean less overhead on the device...and our specs certainly arent bad at all. I am actually in the process of switching distros and then I will be setting up the build environment so I can start playing with it.

I'll be the first to admit that i have no idea what i'm doing, but I'm very interested in this concept and may be able to help; I've gotten mostly functional roms CM9 roms to compile for my nexus s 4g before.
So i'm hoping this goes some where and i'll help in what every ways i might be able to. I'm gonna clean up my dev setup and then pull the source from github.
I would say that this helps clear up questions about devices, support and drivers, a little bit.
XobotOS now has experimental multi-device support.
See http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html and
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/providing-resources.html#AlternativeResources
XobotOS.exe now takes an optional '--device=handheld' or '--device=tablet'
argument to run with a different screen size. This must be given as first
argument, before the assembly:
$ mono --debug ../build/Debug/XobotOS.exe --device=tablet ../build/Debug/Fragments.dll
samples/Fragments demonstrate an app that looks and behaves differently on a
handheld and a tablet.
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Pocker09 said:
I'll be the first to admit that i have no idea what i'm doing, but I'm very interested in this concept and may be able to help; I've gotten mostly functional roms CM9 roms to compile for my nexus s 4g before.
So i'm hoping this goes some where and i'll help in what every ways i might be able to. I'm gonna clean up my dev setup and then pull the source from github.
I would say that this helps clear up questions about devices, support and drivers, a little bit.
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Have the sources, fresh dev environment ...now all I need is the time lol
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genez81 said:
Hello xda devs,
I am a day-1 Android user (good old G1), hobbyst Java developer and good experienced .NET developer.
I am very interested in XobotOS project (https://github.com/xamarin/XobotOS)
Xamarin did a little testing on an HTC Flyer and Acer Iconia Tab, does anyone think that it would be possible to run Xobot on our beloved Nexus S?
blog post from Icaza:
Android Ported to C#
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It would be nice, but most/all apps are coded for Java so they wouldn't work, so unless Google goes for it then we will never see it
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FINALLY C#! a language i can understand instead of all this confusing java
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luciferii said:
FINALLY C#! a language i can understand instead of all this confusing java
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+1! I'm managing to learn about how to make a ROM for my Htc Magic or an Dual Core Android slate. I think it'll be awesome!
PD: Oh, god... what have I done...

yeah that's right, it would mean porting to C# and recompiling applications.
I don't think it's a problem in this phase...
the main problem is:
how to start mono runtime environment instead of standard boot?
I think it would be possible to compile a minimal boot image and a mono binary for Nexus S but I don't have the skills to wrap them up together...

[Concept] XobotOS (ICS C#) for Galaxy Note

Anyone interested in comitting?
Here's the intro to the pros and cons [1]
Github [2]
I won't have time to work on this until next year, after a few classes. So I'm just putting this out there to spark some intrigue.

This is the definitive way to leave the ssssslow java and go to the "performer" C#!
I know a number of people who don't buy any Android phone because thay know very well that it is "slow" inside.
Java and its VM cannot compete with the speedness of windows phone 7, that is written in C#.
When i look at my friend's wp7 with a 1GHz processor i can't believe how quick it is, compared to ANY android phone.
I hope that this project will have a bright future.

adario73 said:
This is the definitive way to leave the ssssslow java and go to the "performer" C#!
I know a number of people who don't buy any Android phone because thay know very well that it is "slow" inside.
Java and its VM cannot compete with the speedness of windows phone 7, that is written in C#.
When i look at my friend's wp7 with a 1GHz processor i can't believe how quick it is, compared to ANY android phone.
I hope that this project will have a bright future.
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Interesting. I didn't know that Java was something that was slowing down Android.

Java slows down everything. It's way too high level a language for what it wants to accomplish to do. I suspect Google takes to closely with it's Stanford roots. Stanford teaches java in intro to computer science classes. Whereas, in unis like MIT one would start with python then C.

If it is slow, the problem is not comming from java and c# is not better or worst, the two languages are very similar. The diference is between the VMs Dalvik and Mono. Dalvik, which run java code, is not yet enougth mature .
I confirm, wp7 runs realy faster than Ics. I had a htc mozart with 1ghz and it was as fast as my current Note with it's dual core 1.4

co2gaz said:
If it is slow, the problem is not comming from java and c# is not better or worst, the two languages are very similar. The diference is between the VMs Dalvik and Mono. Dalvik, which run java code, is not yet enougth mature .
I confirm, wp7 runs realy faster than Ics. I had a htc mozart with 1ghz and it was as fast as my current Note with it's dual core 1.4
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WP7 is a much more lightweight OS, so of course it is faster. Java certainly isn't helping, though...

Java ain't slow
MIght be some confusion, but how come the biggest international
market makers (stocktraders) use Java code to actually make the transactions with the stock exchange ?
I've been told that java is the fastest code out there to handle those tasks.
They are trying to gain microseconds, not milliseconds.
I will ask for some more info about it.

lucid said:
MIght be some confusion, but how come the biggest international
market makers (stocktraders) use Java code to actually make the transactions with the stock exchange ?
I've been told that java is the fastest code out there to handle those tasks.
They are trying to gain microseconds, not milliseconds.
I will ask for some more info about it.
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Both C# and Java compile down to a bytecode which runs inside a virtual machine (VM). The speed at the code runs is dependant on the speed of the VM. The Dalvik VM used by android is completely different to the Java VM used in desktop machines and has different performance characteristics. I wouldn't be suprised to find the Mono VM quite a bit faster, it's much more mature.
Java is certainly not the fastest programming language out there, C# is roughly the same speed while natively compiled languages such as C, C++, Delphi etc are typically 50% - 100% faster.

Thread moved to General
This is not development yet.

reinbeau said:
This is not development yet.
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Please move it back to development!
The developers (and most of the users) don't go to the General section. This have been for years in every device forum here on XDA! I myself used the General section only one or two times and that was before I bought the Note just to see what the people think of it. There is almost no useful info there and this thread have some potential! There it will be forgotten...

lucid said:
MIght be some confusion, but how come the biggest international
market makers (stocktraders) use Java code to actually make the transactions with the stock exchange ?
I've been told that java is the fastest code out there to handle those tasks.
They are trying to gain microseconds, not milliseconds.
I will ask for some more info about it.
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I don't know why they chose Java specifically, but I imagine the Java VM those stock traders use are much faster than Google's Dalvik.

The stock brokers only use Java for some clients - I promise you their servers and back end doesn't run Java!
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OrionBG said:
Please move it back to development!
The developers (and most of the users) don't go to the General section. This have been for years in every device forum here on XDA! I myself used the General section only one or two times and that was before I bought the Note just to see what the people think of it. There is almost no useful info there and this thread have some potential! There it will be forgotten...
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I guess we'll need you to bump it every few days forever to keep it alive...until some actual work is created.

OrionBG said:
Please move it back to development!
The developers (and most of the users) don't go to the General section. This have been for years in every device forum here on XDA! I myself used the General section only one or two times and that was before I bought the Note just to see what the people think of it. There is almost no useful info there and this thread have some potential! There it will be forgotten...
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I do go more often in General than Development...
That being said, I still wish there was a fully native Android experience. All apps written in C/C++, cross-compiled directly for ARM, and BANG : 5000x faster.

Zamboney said:
The stock brokers only use Java for some clients - I promise you their servers and back end doesn't run Java!
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Just my thought too. I've been working professionally as a software developer for almost 15 years, and I'd definitely pick something else than Java for anything performance critical. Back in the days we used to joke that if you're a fast typer, you can run your Java app while coding it.
Anyhow, I'd be thrilled to see more C# support for Android - it's just so much more comfortable to code. In hindsight I think Microsoft clearly did the right thing to ditch backwards compatibility for the new and improved features such as generics.

Lets get manufacturer release data sheet and then lets start coding in assembly will blow everything out of water (if you can write a 500 line of code for your hello world program ) ,
Java and c# are very different language,Java is slower but its getting faster, although I'd love to see android in c#.
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awesome-member said:
Lets get manufacturer release data sheet and then lets start coding in assembly will blow everything out of water (if you can write a 500 line of code for your hello world program ) ,
Java and c# are very different language,Java is slower but its getting faster, although I'd love to see android in c#.
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Java is getting faster, Dalvik isn't.

Android Audio Latency
Will this potentially improve Androids audio latency issue?

Actually a big time discussion was taking place,which sometimes went out of proportion:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/04/Xamarin-XobotOS-ports-Android-to-C-Sharp/

Enough

I've been developing apps for android and windows phone for a year now, and I'm completely furious about android development. When I open visual studio to work on a game it is a joy, I know everything will be working clean, fast, just as you'd expect from the most used IDE of the platform.
But when I open eclipse it laggs for a couple of seconds (this is not about my computer, no lack of power) and greets me with tens or hundreds of problems and red crosses and exclamation marks. The xml editor usually fails to present the simplest of xml, and complex UIs let the hell loose. I've seriously spent more time cleaning and cleaning projects, googling for solutions, refreshing, closing, reimporting, changing settings and screaming at the screen than I have written code. The problem is never in my code, always something stupid like r.java not generating or some library has magically disappeared in matter of seconds. This is unacceptable! Biggest mobile platform and the dev tools(eclipse) are absolute ****ing ****. Somehow even an empty line in java code is able to produce an error after multiple cleanings. I think this should be fixed.
Are there any other IDEs or some other things that could help me with this?

There's a thread in this forum discussing IntelliJ IDEA. I've only tried it very briefly, but it was like butter compared to Eclipse, and much more familiar to me (also a Visual Studio user - for a looooooong time!)
Have a look and see what you think.
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
You can find the thread for that IDE here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231422
I hope this helps

PDABAUS said:
I've been developing apps for android and windows phone for a year now, and I'm completely furious about android development. When I open visual studio to work on a game it is a joy, I know everything will be working clean, fast, just as you'd expect from the most used IDE of the platform.
But when I open eclipse it laggs for a couple of seconds (this is not about my computer, no lack of power) and greets me with tens or hundreds of problems and red crosses and exclamation marks. The xml editor usually fails to present the simplest of xml, and complex UIs let the hell loose. I've seriously spent more time cleaning and cleaning projects, googling for solutions, refreshing, closing, reimporting, changing settings and screaming at the screen than I have written code. The problem is never in my code, always something stupid like r.java not generating or some library has magically disappeared in matter of seconds. This is unacceptable! Biggest mobile platform and the dev tools(eclipse) are absolute ****ing ****. Somehow even an empty line in java code is able to produce an error after multiple cleanings. I think this should be fixed.
Are there any other IDEs or some other things that could help me with this?
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I use Netbeans with the nbandroid extension and it is working pretty good. The only thing that is missing is a decent gui editor but the guys are working on this.

PDABAUS said:
I've been developing apps for android and windows phone for a year now, and I'm completely furious about android development. When I open visual studio to work on a game it is a joy, I know everything will be working clean, fast, just as you'd expect from the most used IDE of the platform.
But when I open eclipse it laggs for a couple of seconds (this is not about my computer, no lack of power) and greets me with tens or hundreds of problems and red crosses and exclamation marks. The xml editor usually fails to present the simplest of xml, and complex UIs let the hell loose. I've seriously spent more time cleaning and cleaning projects, googling for solutions, refreshing, closing, reimporting, changing settings and screaming at the screen than I have written code. The problem is never in my code, always something stupid like r.java not generating or some library has magically disappeared in matter of seconds. This is unacceptable! Biggest mobile platform and the dev tools(eclipse) are absolute ****ing ****. Somehow even an empty line in java code is able to produce an error after multiple cleanings. I think this should be fixed.
Are there any other IDEs or some other things that could help me with this?
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I think they heard you http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/15/google-launches-android-studio-a-development-tool-for-apps/ .

Oh wow, installed and I... I think I'm in love! Happy coding for 2 hours! The real test comes when I continue the project which got me hating eclipse.
But this is clean, fast, simple: pure awesome! Thanks!

PDABAUS said:
Oh wow, installed and I... I think I'm in love! Happy coding for 2 hours! The real test comes when I continue the project which got me hating eclipse.
But this is clean, fast, simple: pure awesome! Thanks!
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You mean android studio or normal intellij?
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13th Dev said:
You mean android studio or normal intellij?
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Android studio.
Sorry about the confusion, I tried to reply to the message which was about android studio, but it contained a link, and new members apparently cant post links? ( or that's what it said when I couldnt reply)

Okay but Don't you feel android studio is in its initial stages and not to stable. For very very early developers like me, won't it be difficult for them using android studio?
I agree with you and development for windows is way much easier with visual studio, great ide. But then I feel android is a way better platform than windows for young developers.
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13th Dev said:
Okay but Don't you feel android studio is in its initial stages and not to stable. For very very early developers like me, won't it be difficult for them using android studio?
I agree with you and development for windows is way much easier with visual studio, great ide. But then I feel android is a way better platform than windows for young developers.
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No, it's very stable for me, everything is working. Android studio is easy.

PDABAUS said:
No, it's very stable for me, everything is working. Android studio is easy.
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I experienced some bugs but it is stable. And when it is doing something wrong, a restart of Android Studio solves it most times. Remember that it is just the stable IntelliJ with some extra features. IntelliJ itself is stable. The only things that contain some (not many) bugs are the additional features which you do not necesarily need for development as you can also develop with the normal IntelliJ.
However, for new users I recommend Eclipse. Coding in Android Studio is faster though because of the better code completion and because it is based on shortcuts (which you have to learn first).
A tip: If you do not know the right shortcut, press Ctrl + Shift + A and enter what you want to do.

IDE of choice for newcommers

Hello,
i have recently decided getting into android application development and now the first big question arises.
Which IDE should i start on if i have no previous experience ?
I m guessing that all of them are pretty much equal to what they are capable on and it mostly goes down to developers preference so i assume i will not find a definate answer here but perhaps an upside/downside comparison for some of them.
As i have found out as of Google I/O 2013 the Android team has moved to IntelliJ Idea with the new Android Studio IDE.
Even if its not superior to the IDEs currently available it might be in the future so my choice is swinging towards Android Studio with no valid arguments why.
I would like to hear some opinion about Android Studio if there are any major downsides compared to other IDEs available and if its a good idea to give it a shot without previous experience.
Thanks in advance,
D

Hmm. Nobody use Android Studio?
druvisk, I think Android Studio is a good choice for you.

Android Studio should be okay for beginners I suppose.
I looked at it a while ago, and as far as I could tell, there was no support for native code/the NDK, and I need that for my apps, so I'm just sticking with Eclipse.

I'm using eclipse i think it's not that hard for beginners (i am a beginner too)

I think you should seriously consider using a multi-platform development environment, so that your final product can work on both Android and iOS, hopefully also on Windows Phone (or maybe even desktop PC). There are tons of those - affordable and high quality. Use google to find those. From the top of my head: Cocos2d/3d, Moai, Marmolade, Corona, Unity, Gideros, GameMaker, and many more....

Hi, I think that you have to go ahead with Eclipse.
You only need to download it in the android developers main web and you can already follow some official tutorials without searching the options on the Android Studio IDE. (That can be different)
After you get some experience you can go with Netbeans or the Android Studio itself.

Only TRUE cross development tool
druvisk said:
Hello,
i have recently decided getting into android application development and now the first big question arises.
Which IDE should i start on if i have no previous experience ?
I m guessing that all of them are pretty much equal to what they are capable on and it mostly goes down to developers preference so i assume i will not find a definate answer here but perhaps an upside/downside comparison for some of them.
As i have found out as of Google I/O 2013 the Android team has moved to IntelliJ Idea with the new Android Studio IDE.
Even if its not superior to the IDEs currently available it might be in the future so my choice is swinging towards Android Studio with no valid arguments why.
I would like to hear some opinion about Android Studio if there are any major downsides compared to other IDEs available and if its a good idea to give it a shot without previous experience.
Thanks in advance,
D
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I recommend Gingee IDE. Super easy to use, and most important - helps you to use one code to generate an app in any desired OS, with no extra optimization needed.
Let me know if you need to hear more details. Or just go to gingeegames dot com.

Android Studio is great for those who haven't really been into Android before
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I'm working with Eclipse since the beginning and I'm quite happy with it. You can install ADT plugin, control the SDK manager and even profile your app with DDMS view.

I'd vote for Eclipse ...best IDE for beginners..

Eclipse. Android Studio still needs improvements from what I hear. Stick with Eclipse and you'll have everything you need.

RED_ said:
Eclipse. Android Studio still needs improvements from what I hear. Stick with Eclipse and you'll have everything you need.
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This is correct.
Eclipse is the best right now.
Android Studio may be the best but Google really isn't in a rush to help developers out.

adrian.adamiak said:
I think you should seriously consider using a multi-platform development environment, so that your final product can work on both Android and iOS, hopefully also on Windows Phone (or maybe even desktop PC). There are tons of those - affordable and high quality. Use google to find those. From the top of my head: Cocos2d/3d, Moai, Marmolade, Corona, Unity, Gideros, GameMaker, and many more....
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Like the original poster I'm also a newcomer with only basic knowledge of coding. I'm looking for a multi-platform dev environment thats more a GUI possibly with drag and drop features so I don't have to code. I see there are plenty of app making websites available but rather than cloud based I'm wanting a programme I can download.
Gingee looks good and one of it's features they're marketing is that you can "build your app/game without writing one line of code". Would the options mentioned above be similar to Gingee or do you have any other recommendations to meets my criteria?

I would go with Android Studio, since it's under heavy development, and Google is replacing Eclipse with AS, so you won't have to switch to an other IDE in the future.

I think IntelliJ Idea is the best IDE for Java developers. I tried Eclipse several times, but still can't understand, why would anyone switch from IntelliJ Idea to anything else.

andras_k said:
I would go with Android Studio, since it's under heavy development, and Google is replacing Eclipse with AS, so you won't have to switch to an other IDE in the future.
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AS replacing Eclipse, I dont see that happening ever. Google never dedicates time and effort into anything, and an IDE is a big project.

I use netbeans with ndk for android c++ development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53586100&postcount=4

Stick with Eclipse
I would recommend sticking with Eclipse as there is not many examples on using Android Studio for the newbies ... Now this is if you are looking to build native android applications.
I would not recommend any IDE that states you can build a application without coding ... Learn to code would be my honest suggestion.

Livecode??
I am disappoint.
Not one mention of LiveCode!
For anyone who has EVER used HyperCard on an old school Mac, you'll know how to use LiveCode. And they have a community open source edition, and can deploy to pretty much any target, save for Windows Phone.
I've written all kinds of one off custom apps with it.

To code for Android I have only been using Eclipse until now, and it meets all my needs. I think it's a very good tool ... as long as it's working, and to be honest this is not always the case. There where some incompatibilities of the ADT some month ago with the current licensing library, so I downloaded the very new version of Eclipse and ADT this month. Eclipse found some weird errors in Google's very own appcompat library ... I guess this is not my fault at all. Frequently Eclipse simply gets stuck loading content, and the only way to get rid of this problem is rebooting Windows. I don't know if such weird stuff is also occurring on Android Studio.

[Tool] Which IDE do you prefer? Eclipse, Android Studio or something else?

Hello,
I have built my first Android app using Eclipse and I think it was pretty quick and helpful in many ways.
After the first project, my colleague asked me to switch to Android Studio, but my question is: is it better than Eclipse? Which one do you prefer?
Thank you all in advance,
Andrea

Android Studio is "The Way Forward" but still has lots of problems, and runs slow for me.
I'm just trying Studio now with a new app I'm working on. NDK integration isn't good (but better than 2013).
I don't even use Eclipse anymore, just ant etc scripts on command line and default linux GUI editor (Pluma) for editing.
But I'm trying to learn Studio because I think Google will let Eclipse support rot once Studio is officially supported. AND I'm trying to find ways to make myself more efficient. I haven't used IDEs in over 25 years (Turbo C), LOL, but it was fun back then...
Here again, Google is moving from open source stuff (Eclipse) to proprietary Android specially designed and built stuff (Studio). That has good and bad, and I'll just "go with the flow"...

mikereidis said:
Android Studio is "The Way Forward" but still has lots of problems, and runs slow for me.
I'm just trying Studio now with a new app I'm working on. NDK integration isn't good (but better than 2013).
I don't even use Eclipse anymore, just ant etc scripts on command line and default linux GUI editor (Pluma) for editing.
But I'm trying to learn Studio because I think Google will let Eclipse support rot once Studio is officially supported. AND I'm trying to find ways to make myself more efficient. I haven't used IDEs in over 25 years (Turbo C), LOL, but it was fun back then...
Here again, Google is moving from open source stuff (Eclipse) to proprietary Android specially designed and built stuff (Studio). That has good and bad, and I'll just "go with the flow"...
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Eclipse is the best right now.
Google Studio may be in the future.
I really hope Google starts stepping up and helping developers out. Xcode for iOS is really nice to work with when devloping for iOS. It would be nice if Google put that same effort into helping devs build for Android.

jbutewicz said:
I really hope Google starts stepping up and helping developers out. Xcode for iOS is really nice to work with when devloping for iOS. It would be nice if Google put that same effort into helping devs build for Android.
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Why would they change to being more dev friendly ?
Why would they spend more money on "expenses" when Android is #1 in terms of penetration ?
I'd be happy to see it, but I don't see them changing, and I highly suspect their team of bean counter accountants continue to conclude their profits are best when their development teams are small.
I've been researching/learning everything I can about audio on Android. It's a big mess, though it works, more or less, as in "good enough". But high performance, low latency audio such as IOS has is extremely difficult, hardware/OEM HAL/kernel driver dependent, and effectively impossible to do without at least occasional glitches on many leading devices.
These audio issues have existed for years, along with MANY others. The Android issue tracker is full of such issues. Some improvements have been made, but it's never enough.
Low level stuff like audio is where Android really falls down. The Google perspective seems to be the user perspective, which is closer to higher level Java stuff and farther away from the nuts and bolts of kernels, HALs, C and assembly language. Most of this is left to the OEMs to figure out and many take major shortcuts to reduce time to market.

andreait15 said:
Hello,
I have built my first Android app using Eclipse and I think it was pretty quick and helpful in many ways.
After the first project, my colleague asked me to switch to Android Studio, but my question is: is it better than Eclipse? Which one do you prefer?
Thank you all in advance,
Andrea
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I'm also interested in what folks are using. I whipped up a poll this morning and posted it on Reddit/r/Android but this seems much more appropriate.
Here is the Poll
And the results so far Results

matt68000 said:
I'm also interested in what folks are using. I whipped up a poll this morning and posted it on Reddit/r/Android but this seems much more appropriate.
Here is the Poll
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wow, these results make me only more confused.
Right now I'm using Android Studio too, and in some ways is better, especially the design views on the right side of the code, but adding libraries was a slowly death inside!!!

IntelliJ is the best. After I first-time used it, I would never switch back to eclipse.

Eclipse as an IDE, Unity3D as an engine.

esoloyu nefs
As along time eclipse user (more then 10 years) I tried out intellij a few month ago and I will never go back. IntellliJ is just the better ide
Well and now since I am using gradle I switched to android studio. Its like intelliJ with more android power

matt68000 said:
I'm also interested in what folks are using. I whipped up a poll this morning and posted it on Reddit/r/Android but this seems much more appropriate.
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Great idea! As of now, it looks like the distribution of Android Studio and Eclipse w/ ADT goes head-by-head.
As for me, I prefer Android Studio. The layout previews and the built-in gradle support are the most important advantages for me. And of course the Darcula theme is also a huge plus

Still sticking with Eclipse. Android Studio has more fancy features, but we're hand coding all the XML's or dynamically creating views anyway, so while a better UI editor works for smaller apps, it's not much help for a complex one.
That and redeploying / releasing is easier (for me anyway) with Eclipse, I've heard too many issues with Gradle to make the switch yet with commercial apps. People still complain about compile time, but with DexGuard packing stuff, it's < 10s between clicking "Run" and having it on the phone, not bad for an 6MB .apk full of code.

andreait15 said:
Hello,
I have built my first Android app using Eclipse and I think it was pretty quick and helpful in many ways.
After the first project, my colleague asked me to switch to Android Studio, but my question is: is it better than Eclipse? Which one do you prefer?
Thank you all in advance,
Andrea
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Hi , I have been using eclipse IDE for long time.It is great software to do android development.But they say that Android Studio is more context aware that eclipse and you have to write very less code.Through predictions it guesses what you want to do.So I have decided to give it try and Will be posting my finding here.
Yes this is sure that Android studio is still buggy as my team mates using this software often say that.
Let me check and I will get back.
Any one else if find major differences b/w two please explain pros/cons here.
Thanks,

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andreait15 said:
Hello,
I have built my first Android app using Eclipse and I think it was pretty quick and helpful in many ways.
After the first project, my colleague asked me to switch to Android Studio, but my question is: is it better than Eclipse? Which one do you prefer?
Thank you all in advance,
Andrea
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Go With eclipse
Eclipse is stable and you will find lot of android video tutorials based on eclipse
Android Studio is still not fully stable ...

aditya.kamble said:
Go With eclipse
Eclipse is stable and you will find lot of android video tutorials based on eclipse
Android Studio is still not fully stable ...
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Have you got examples of when Android Studio has not been stable?
Just because its still in "alpha" stage doesn't mean its not stable... I've never had any issues with it since switching from eclipse. Remember its based off IntelliJ which is stable.

It is stable enough to develop apps. But we should used to that sometimes studio freeze when we plug second device, or when we trying to do something sophisticated with Gradle. Recording video sometimes generate broken mp4 file.
Another thing is Gradle, which is great tool to simplify building app. Flavors and build types wasn't so easy never before.
Now with 0.5.8 version is almost complete code completion for Gradle files. In upcoming releases we will get proguard completion.
There is several crashes here and there, but it cannot be compared to eclipse. Not the same league.
Big problem is lacking support for native code so you do develop mostly on Visual Studio.
If spending couple minutes from time to time with IDE itself doesn't scare you much, the choice is simple.
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Hi,
Continuing with my previous post ,
I started using android studio a week ago and following are my findings till now.
Android studio is excellent tool for android I guess because it has so many shortcuts or features etc.Sure it has some learning involved because of gradle.But once you pass basics of setting up project using gradle it is most excellent tool.Following are features
1).It will auto import classes when you write code.
2).It is truely context aware tool becuase It will present you with options relevant to piece of code(function, expression,class etc) you are writing when alt+enter is pressed.Consider alt+enter as right click.eg.If you have written any regular expression in your code then it will automatically identify it as regular expression and present you with dialog to test you regular expression there only.Same goes with SQL,HTML,XML etc it presents option with these only.Means you do not have to tell ide that I have written some regular expression please evaluate.It knows what you want.
3).You can search file using ctrl+N by specifying name of file.You can also specify filename:<line> in search box it will go to that file and to that line.
4).Another cool feature is gui editor.When writing any layout then it shows preview side by side, so you dont have to switch.Cool thing is that you can preview multiple devices at the same time.And device skin is of real device.How cool is that.
5).Now coolest feature is that you can set up multiple versions of project at the same time using build flavours using gradle.It is coolest.Just learn this you will love it.
6).No need to install ADT separately and update it separately.Studio comes with everything preloaded , and if any update comes then it is update for Android studio.
7).Real trick of using Android studio is to learn as many shortcuts as possible , Under Help in android studio there is keymapping , it contains complete list of shorcuts.
8).Code navigation is awesome in android studio.
9).It is stable.
Now I am not saying eclipse is not good IDE, but simply android studio is better than it in every aspect.
I feel that if you are new to learning android then please start using Android Studio instead of eclipse.
Please follow this channel for video tutorials on Android Studio : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5fT02o8H1NnGfX7j1CmP6Q
Thanks,Hit thanks if it helped.:good:

I used Eclipse for about 1.5 year. I know almost evry bug there, so after that development was pretty starightforward. Recently, I had to use AS, because of commercial project. It looks great, it's fast and I love it. If you are starting, choose AS.

I got Studio working, but it's still all new to me (so much more in an APK, it seems).
I do like it though, it brings a fresh new UI to the table. Need to figure out how to import libraries in it, though...

bassie1995 said:
I got Studio working, but it's still all new to me (so much more in an APK, it seems).
I do like it though, it brings a fresh new UI to the table. Need to figure out how to import libraries in it, though...
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New Module > Import JAR or AAR or Import Existing Project
For libraries that are in the maven repository you can simply add the project to the build.gradle file, for example add the following to import the Google Play Services library:
Code:
compile 'com.google.android.gms:play-services:+'

Jonny said:
New Module > Import JAR or AAR or Import Existing Project
For libraries that are in the maven repository you can simply add the project to the build.gradle file, for example add the following to import the Google Play Services library:
Code:
compile 'com.google.android.gms:play-services:+'
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Ah cool, I'll try. Thanks!
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