Quick build question - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

I just purchased a Droid2, and the add on's from Motorola are some of the best I've seen, mainly referring to their email app.
Anyway to port a whole build from one phone to another? If so, what goes into that. I'd love to see that build working on my HD2!

generallll generallll there is a general seccion why you post here i still dont understand...

im not even going to read this i can tell from the title it doesnt belong here just trying to keep the tread clear so newer people can stop getting confused

I am so sorry to have bothered the two of you. Since I have this forum linked, I usually don't go to the main HD2 section.
Guess this sums up XDA these days, elitest folks who MUST know more than us with questions!
Thanks for the heads up!
Oh and xpoloxp, I'll take a moment and teach you how to reply to threads that are legitimately in the wrong forum:
Your reply:
"generallll generallll there is a general seccion why you post here i still dont understand..."
How about this to have a touch of civility instead:
"There is a general section in case you didn't know and your post probably belongs there."
There! See how that makes one sound human while not mindlessly debasing someone and ASSUMING that they (when you said you) post things in the wrong forum all the time.
Class dismissed, and mod's, feel free to move this if it's needed.

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[MOD REQUEST] Please move em

please do your jobs, be a smart ass and start with this one.. I dont care. Please clean out this section of the boards. Half these posts dont have a thing to do with development. Its a pain in the ass to try and sift over the posts here when they dont have anything to do with development.
Take your screen shot posts
your questions posts
your it dont work posts
your so on and so on posts out of this forum and into the correct ones
i say make another section for android hd2 general thats the least they can do for all of this , so the rom section will remain only for rom and released apps ....
thats probably a good idea.
tarekkkkk said:
i say make another section for android hd2 general thats the least they can do for all of this , so the rom section will remain only for rom and released apps ....
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I agree... android is so popular on the hd2... I believe it requires a whole new section for rom development" (if you want to call it that now), "Themes and apps" and "general"... if it doesnt happen now it should at least happen in the near future.
any mods care to reply to this? I think its a serious issue and its against the rules of XDA..make me a MOD for a day, I'll clean at least this section up with swiftness
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please do your jobs, be a smart ass and start with this one.. I dont care. Please clean out this section of the boards. Half these posts dont have a thing to do with development. Its a pain in the ass to try and sift over the posts here when they dont have anything to do with development.
Take your screen shot posts
your questions posts
your it dont work posts
your so on and so on posts out of this forum and into the correct ones
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I'm thinking someone needs to have less of an attitude, ok I know some threads are not totally necessary but to start being disrespectful through arrogance towards moderators is not called for & I take it frowned upon. Your better response to your issues would surely to direct your distaste to a mod directly instead of adding your own ill-appointed remarks.......
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I'm thinking someone needs to have less of an attitude, ok I know some threads are not totally necessary but to start being disrespectful through arrogance towards moderators is not called for & I take it frowned upon. Your better response to your issues would surely to direct your distaste to a mod directly instead of adding your own ill-appointed remarks.......
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No disrespect here. I am asking them to do their jobs, plain and simple. XDA is huge, I know it must be a tough job staying on top of all the posts here. I have run my own boards in the past and no where near the amount of posts..but keeping on top of them only equals a better experience for all. It makes searching easier as you dont get redundant posts, spread over numerous sections.
My reason for stating "start with this one" was simple, without that little line some one hear would inevitably say I am no different by posting here, in this section, with my added line I am saying I dont care if this post gets deleted, moved or what ever, start with this one if you want.
I come over here from the Nexus One section, prior to that it was the G1 section and am use to Mods that keep things clean and narrow..I just figured thats how XDA was in general.
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any mods care to reply to this? I think its a serious issue and its against the rules of XDA..make me a MOD for a day, I'll clean at least this section up with swiftness
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Ok tell us where to post and I'll post at it don't be rude
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Chillax dudes i was out with my kids today.. just saw your post i alerted the admins. Honestly i've been closing and answering so much i was thinking the same lol.
as soon as i get they're reply i'll let y'all know. Thanks for all your patience as HD2 android groooooows.
doing my best here
Peace,
Josh
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Chillax dudes i was out with my kids today.. just saw your post i alerted the admins. Honestly i've been closing and answering so much i was thinking the same lol.
as soon as i get they're reply i'll let y'all know. Thanks for all your patience as HD2 android groooooows.
doing my best here
Peace,
Josh
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Yeah, josh needs help in the android for hd2 forum.. officially, there is currently only 1 mod here, dharvey4651... we may need more in here since things are starting to become as messy as it is now..
many duplicate threads asking the same questions, asking irreverent qns when android development for hd2 is now still at SD card phase.. and the "ask your questions here thread" having mostly questions and no1 answering..
Mods need to help by deleting useless repetitive threads and if possible give temporary bans to people to either post or create new topic in the Android development forum..
And for all newcomers who see this thread... pls read the sticky threads for god sake and stop wasting server storage space with your useless, repeated, often already answered questions..!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
We are busy, that is correct. If you want to help us clean up the Android section, please use the Report Post link in the offending thread. All moderators see the RPs in a super special dedicated forum, so rest assured it will be addressed as soon as we see it and have time to do so.
thanks for the replies. I wasnt trying to offend anyone. I will use the report feature...I always thought that was for things such as warez, hard flaming or the sorts..

[Q] Gingerbread Keyboard

I don't have it i don't know anything about it I wanted to know more regarding it though. So the gods of this forum forgive me and my simple question. Is there something preventing us from being able to run it on the Fascinate. I know all the Galaxy S phones are different and all but having seen it on the Vibrant it seems so much better then the one we have and swype. So i put the question out there what is holding us back and where can i donate to make it happen lol
Did you even try searching?
Last time I checked we've had this for a while now...or am I crazy? I thought I was typing on it right now...
Sent from my SCH-I500
It is a great keyboard... install it and enjoy it... just download the one from the market place... it has bugs
Sent from my Rooted Samsung Fascinate... With Gingerbread theme.. To go along my ginerbeead adw ex theme and gingerbread keyboard...
Yea thanks for the witty responses guys sooo creative. Put the question out there got my answer. I was under the belief it was something more then a skin. As far as the market one(s) go any reccomendations?
@OP does this look like Q&A section to you?
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@OP does this look like Q&A section to you?
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To answer your ? No. Does it Matter? No.Its a forum regarding android development for the Verizon Fascinate. I ask if a Android 2.3 Gingberbread keyboard has been DEVELOPED for the Fascinate considering i haven't read anything regarding it. Its a perfectly valid question and by all means don't respond to it. Knowing i put the question is a public medium i can expect to get some good responses and some not so good ones. So no need to be a Troll. If this specific forum wasn't for questions then explain to me why there is a an option to denote in the topic of a newly opened thread that it is a question. So what ur trying to get at I don't know. I openly joked at it potentially being a already covered topic and from my understanding was simpler then it seem. So rather then try to make this into a big mess why not just give a nice response to the question rather then perpetuate stupidity in a online community. Just sayin lol. We are all here for a good reason chill, relax, sit back we got a year till the world ends. You got plenty of time not to have Froyo by.
Here u go... enjoy....
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...-as-an-apk-file-for-users-on-clair-and-froyo/
Sent from my Rooted Samsung Fascinate... With Gingerbread theme.. To go along my ginerbeead adw ex theme and gingerbread keyboard...
If u have the beta froyo rom installed Then make sure u install the 2.2 version if u have 2.1 use That's one
Sent from my Rooted Samsung Fascinate... With Gingerbread theme.. To go along my ginerbeead adw ex theme and gingerbread keyboard...
I appreciate it man thank you. Look, like i said my understanding was it was something that would have to be ported to the Fascinate. So why i asked the question. I know better now. Understand where i am coming from and we are cool
EDIT***Yea i say that i read into it quick and don't like the fact it won't do speed to text/ its ify for our phones. I think i am going to try it out and go from there.
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To answer your ? No. Does it Matter? No.Its a forum regarding android development for the Verizon Fascinate. I ask if a Android 2.3 Gingberbread keyboard has been DEVELOPED for the Fascinate considering i haven't read anything regarding it. Its a perfectly valid question and by all means don't respond to it. Knowing i put the question is a public medium i can expect to get some good responses and some not so good ones. So no need to be a Troll. If this specific forum wasn't for questions then explain to me why there is a an option to denote in the topic of a newly opened thread that it is a question. So what ur trying to get at I don't know. I openly joked at it potentially being a already covered topic and from my understanding was simpler then it seem. So rather then try to make this into a big mess why not just give a nice response to the question rather then perpetuate stupidity in a online community. Just sayin lol. We are all here for a good reason chill, relax, sit back we got a year till the world ends. You got plenty of time not to have Froyo by.
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Maybe, before flipping out on other people, you should read the ****ing rules and post your questions in the general section. Or do some research on, I dunno, Google? You are the one perpetuating stupidity, as you put it, by not following simple guidelines for this DEVELOPMENT section.
Douche.
Sent from my Fascinate using the XDA app
Listen man I didn't flip out on anybody and resort to name callin like you. Grow up. I stated my side of things and again I noted in the first post if this topic has been covered my b. So to u too calm down. It's no big deal.
Edit1** And why u starting crap with me when I said nothing to you. Go go about ur own thing. The question was answered and ur sorry to say just beating the horse
Edit2*** btw show me where in the guidelines or "before posting read here" thread covers this topic. not like it is something beaten to death. So again where you come off as far as name calling. Holds no bar and doesn't speak well of you
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Listen man I didn't flip out on anybody and resort to name callin like you. Grow up. I stated my side of things and again I noted in the first post if this topic has been covered my b. So to u too calm down. It's no big deal.
Edit1** And why u starting crap with me when I said nothing to you. Go go about ur own thing. The question was answered and ur sorry to say just beating the horse
Edit2*** btw show me where in the guidelines or "before posting read here" thread covers this topic. not like it is something beaten to death. So again where you come off as far as name calling. Holds no bar and doesn't speak well of you
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I'll spell it out then: The development section is for development related threads. Threads about not knowing where the GingerBread keyboard is have nothing to do with development. At best, it belongs in the General Section, at worst the Themes and Apps sections. If I were a mod, I would have moved it myself. There are numerous threads describing searching - how to use the search tool for XDA, and that a Google search is also preferable before even thinking of posting a thread.
I apologize for losing my cool, you caught me on a bad day, it seems, but that does not excuse not bothering to search (or search hard enough) and it does not excuse making some drawn out connection between a question about a keyboard somehow related to development. As you can see by looking in the section, most (unfortunately not all) of the threads are regarding ROMs, kernels, developed applications, things of that nature. The reason you see so few question threads is because they get moved to the General Section.
Moral of the story, SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH, and if you have a question, it belongs in the General section. Again, sorry I lost my cool, but this sort of thing is getting out of hand. It's a Development section, not a "I couldn't find it" section.
Perfectly understandable man. But, and this is my last rebutle I offer because i feel we have reached somewhat of a common ground, again through my search no matter how extensive or not for that matter i was under the belief and understanding that the Gingerbread keyboard would have to pe developed for the Fascinate in order to correctly work. So i mean there is a no way to argue the knowledge i do or don't have or something i truly didn't understand. I put it forth in the first post it might be a dumb question and a simple answer would have been nice but again i knew what i was getting into. Also its not like the fourm has very high traffic with new developments. But i digress, so go easy and as i said before too this isn't like this a topic that is beaten to death here much like the ongoing Froyo things. But again thanks for being cool. Peace and Topic DEAD.
Aali1011 said:
I openly joked at it potentially being a already covered topic and from my understanding was simpler then it seem. So rather then try to make this into a big mess why not just give a nice response to the question rather then perpetuate stupidity in a online community.
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Yes, because making a joke justifies a selfish act of laziness. Posting questions in the correction section helps prevent a big mess. Not correcting people's mistakes in an online community would perpetuate stupidity and contribute to a "big mess." Just sayin lol.

DL30 froyo rom Samsung Widgets disappearing?

Anybody have any ideas. I am aware that devs are not supporting the original leak. But im just looking for info more than anything. Every once in a while i will hit the home button and as soon as i return to the home screen the calendar clock, and the feeds and updates widget are no longer there.
I think I know what you're talking about. If you wait a little bit they come back... think it's the launcher resetting. Did it to me a lot too, switched to super clean, haven't seen it since *knock on wood*.
This belongs in general. Read Me
But it happens to me to with beautiful widgets. Time and again. i just deal with it since this is not the final build.
I understand what your guys are saying but thats not my problem. im fully aware that if you use adobe flash, or apps that use a lot of resources that if you hit home sometimes it will refresh the home screen (happened all the time on the Original droid). My problem is the widgets disappear all together meaning they dont reappear. Ohh and this isnt a general question this question refers to an unofficial rom aka ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
Also its not all the widgets that disappear it just the Samsung widgets (i only use calendar clock, and feeds and updates widget)
If you read that link you would see that your question should have gone in the leak thread. Or your thread should have been started in general. Why must people try to justify their mistakes?
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.
Here are few key excerpts so you don't have to read the whole thing:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
So remember… before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can’t answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
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I lol'd. Agreed.
And same here op. It bothered me for awhile cause I really like the program monitor widget and that blue digital clock. I ended up just getting another widget from the market but touchwiz seems to make it all shaky every time I went to another screen. Wish there was a fix, but I just deal with it.
bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
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If that's the case then consider it their sacrifice so YOU can have a nicely running phone. So stfu and listen to them when they tell you what you should have been doing in the first place.
bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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First of all, I'm married, so of course I don't. And second, I don't see how sexual frustration = desire for the development board to remain uncluttered with stuff that belongs elsewhere. Can you explain that?
Lol its all in fun.
I switched to the official leak useing the official kernel and widgets are not disappearing now....
bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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It must be our proper grammar, correct spelling, and common sense.
Stop being such a troll.
Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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^I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I dont think they were trying to attack him personally, but...
it's a matter of frustration that established users have here with people completely disregarding the rules (and this is coming from someone with low post count). To my understanding the development fora are supposed to be FOR devs, not end-users. I think our role as end-users (in this development forum) is to provide support in terms of bug reporting (or whatever the dev might need) and such WITHIN specific dev threads. By not adhering to the rules, new users are unintentionally changing the dynamic of how these fora are supposed to operate.
So they're not trying to be d*cks, they're just trying to maintain the integrity of this forum.
stereoblind said:
Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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Let me put it into context for you:
Here is the third post of the thread. It contains a simple reminder to please post in the correct section, and an answer to the original question. Exactly as you suggest, telling him once.
jselden said:
This belongs in general. Read Me
But it happens to me to with beautiful widgets. Time and again. i just deal with it since this is not the final build.
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Here is the very next post. It shows the original poster, who obviously didn't read the provided readme in the above post, attempting to justify his posting in the wrong section. This is where it became an issue, when the OP, instead of admitting his mistake and avoiding misplaced topics in the future (which would be perfectly forgivable, and not a problem) defends his uninformed postition with his own flawed logic.
wroder84 said:
I understand what your guys are saying but thats not my problem. im fully aware that if you use adobe flash, or apps that use a lot of resources that if you hit home sometimes it will refresh the home screen (happened all the time on the Original droid). My problem is the widgets disappear all together meaning they dont reappear. Ohh and this isnt a general question this question refers to an unofficial rom aka ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
Also its not all the widgets that disappear it just the Samsung widgets (i only use calendar clock, and feeds and updates widget)
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Easy solution: Read the rules, and when you're corrected by someone with 10 times your post count, who provides verification, just admit you were wrong.
How about a solution to this problem,, in the sub forum section page change the expalnation of the 4 sub forums to capatilazation and place it before the actual sub forum link and change the sub forum link to un capitalized font . I think this might help force people to rerad first before clicking the link.
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It must be our proper grammar, correct spelling, and common sense.
Stop being such a troll.
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OMG u got me man u got me good im just gonna go now since i've been owned.
kipnukmals said:
How about a solution to this problem,, in the sub forum section page change the expalnation of the 4 sub forums to capatilazation and place it before the actual sub forum link and change the sub forum link to un capitalized font . I think this might help force people to rerad first before clicking the link.
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Better idea just password protect this section so only devs can post here. FYI there will be about 4 posts a month in this forum then lol.
bL33d said:
Better idea just password protect this section so only devs can post here. FYI there will be about 4 posts a month in this forum then lol.
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No one has a problem with everyone being able to post in the development forum, Just people cluttering it up with things that belong in the general forum. I will never understand how people can argue so hard for anarchy. If developers and veterans are complaining about the state of the site, then maybe you ought to get your act together or we'll just leave. Then who's going to help you with your issues? Other noobs who have won the right to post wherever the hell they want by driving off the people who actually make roms and mods and fixes. If the op wanted a topic for his specific issue, he should have posted it in general. If he wanted to post in development he should have done so in the thread for the rom he is using, not created a new thread. It's clearly stated in the rules. Why is that such a problem to some people?
sonofskywalker3 said:
Let me put it into context for you:
Here is the third post of the thread. It contains a simple reminder to please post in the correct section, and an answer to the original question. Exactly as you suggest, telling him once.
Here is the very next post. It shows the original poster, who obviously didn't read the provided readme in the above post, attempting to justify his posting in the wrong section. This is where it became an issue, when the OP, instead of admitting his mistake and avoiding misplaced topics in the future (which would be perfectly forgivable, and not a problem) defends his uninformed postition with his own flawed logic.
Easy solution: Read the rules, and when you're corrected by someone with 10 times your post count, who provides verification, just admit you were wrong.
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I'm sorry dev, but the number of people who are dumb and being asses gonna to out strip you by more than 100 to 1. You should learn to tolerate that as being the norm, to have common sense is pretty much a crime to humanity and the norm.
beray5 said:
I'm sorry dev, but the number of people who are dumb and being asses gonna to out strip you by more than 100 to 1. You should learn to tolerate that as being the norm, to have common sense is pretty much a crime to humanity and the norm.
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He's a troll, just ignore him. This thread should be locked since the OP has been helped and it's just going downhill.
Thanks for all your work sonofskywalker, I keep alternating between Blackhole and Superclean still trying to figure out which is a better fit.

[Off Topic]&[Noob Advice] [Try Read It]

"hey guys,
Sorry to be a pita(pain-in-the-a**), I just wanted to make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the search function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your a**"
Big Thanks Goes For Who Support This Idea
Big Big Thanks Goes For "stoney73" for providing The Correct sentences and correcting\changing my whole POST
In Case you wanna Learn Something About your Tab check this link ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133590 )
1st time i see this thread without a QUESTION .. Magical
..Sounds like good advice......
Cheers.
conantroutman said:
..Sounds like good advice......
Cheers.
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thanks for the support
I cant believe someone wasted the time to write this. Google Common Sense.
Timanator said:
I cant believe someone wasted the time to write this. Google Common Sense.
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so if you think that i wasted my time to wrote this all sentences ,, at least you should appreciated a little .. cuz i did it for their own good ,
thanks
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so if you think that i wasted my time to wrote this all sentences ,, at least you should appreciated a little .. cuz i did it for their own good ,
thanks
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Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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careful that was a question!
You guys are hilarious.....
The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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careful that was a question!
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Code:
You guys are hilarious.....The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
conantroutman said:
You guys are hilarious.....
The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Don't get me wrong, I know this thread is a good idea, but I genuinely have trouble reading/understanding what k0sh says. Or why someone that thinks he's wasting his time should still appreciate it.
I don't think this will get through to people though. Especially with that title.
Hello,
Would you just cut him some slack? Pretty please?
His english isn't so good because that's not his first language. Malaysian english is horrid, but it's not their fault, visit the place and you will understand.
He is trying to raise awareness of posting correctly in the right section, so I guess at least he has good intention. Although this has been done in the sticky and almost everywhere else.
If you don't like his post, isn't sometimes silence is gold?
Sometimes the harsh response for a post in the wrong section is just crazy in this forum. The harsh response seemed like venting out frustration on an ignorant noob.
In the interest of keeping the peace, I took the liberty to rewrite kosh's post. (kosh, feel free to use it if you want). I tried to keep it close to your own words. I also just added in info about the accessories and themes/apps sections.Hope you don't mind.
"hey guys,
Sorry to be an pita(pain-in-the-ass), I just wanted make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the seach function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your ass"
stoney73 said:
In the interest of keeping the peace, I took the liberty to rewrite kosh's post. (kosh, feel free to use it if you want). I tried to keep it close to your own words. I also just added in info about the accessories and themes/apps sections.Hope you don't mind.
"hey guys,
Sorry to be an pita(pain-in-the-ass), I just wanted make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the seach function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your ass"
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Awesome !!!! going to use it
jpanggy said:
Hello,
Would you just cut him some slack? Pretty please?
His english isn't so good because that's not his first language. Malaysian english is horrid, but it's not their fault, visit the place and you will understand.
He is trying to raise awareness of posting correctly in the right section, so I guess at least he has good intention. Although this has been done in the sticky and almost everywhere else.
If you don't like his post, isn't sometimes silence is gold?
Sometimes the harsh response for a post in the wrong section is just crazy in this forum. The harsh response seemed like venting out frustration on an ignorant noob.
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i'm not malaysian i'm just a student here . so far malaysia is very good . ya the language here is kinda pain in tha A** but they are good ppl
k0sh said:
i'm not malaysian i'm just a student here . so far malaysia is very good . ya the language here is kinda pain in tha A** but they are good ppl
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So, what is your native language? Surely it cant be English.
natious said:
So, what is your native language? Surely it cant be English.
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dude if you look to my signature you'll know what is my native language and also where exactly i'm from
Hah! I take offense at the Malaysian English being horrid, come to Malaysia and you'd be pleasantly surprised
Now, unfortunately, Libyan English is another matter altogether! Even I didn't understand what he was trying to say. LOL! I only got interested in the thread due to the Malaysia flag being displayed! LOL!
k0sh said:
dude
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Check the photo - that is no dude! In even that tiny picture I see a gorgeous dudette!
mikhail said:
Hah! I take offense at the Malaysian English being horrid, come to Malaysia and you'd be pleasantly surprised
Now, unfortunately, Libyan English is another matter altogether! Even I didn't understand what he was trying to say. LOL! I only got interested in the thread due to the Malaysia flag being displayed! LOL!
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Lol... I'd take offence too, if anyone would measure the standards of Malaysian English by k0sh's postings.... what with me being a true-blue Malaysian, born-and-bred. ;-)
True, thanks to the wonderful efforts of our government (I won't go into the corny joke of how oxymoronic our government intelligence is...) the standards may be declining, but it's nowhere near what would be termed "horrid", and sure, we'll have our versions of hillbillies and rednecks (referred affectionately, though politically incorrectly as "jakuns"...) who'd mangle the language to no end... but it'll be quite rare for an English-speaking person to not be able to hold a decent conversation with any Malaysian in the Queen's language here, except of course, you run into the people I've just alluded to... ;-)
Anyway, the idea and intent behind this thread is noble, and to be honest k0sh was just trying to help. Yes, the execution may be a tad flawed, so instead of just harping on him or his standards of English (true, his penchant for "txt-spk" doesn't help matters either)... let's just do what stoney has done, and help each other...
@k0sh... you might wanna change your topic title though, as it's incredibly misleading. Maybe you're trying to have an eye-catching title, but it didn't work, so a change in the title might be warranted. Say, something more straightforward like: "Read this before you post...." or something to that effect, perhaps?
Have fun and be nice...
tpb
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thepittbull said:
Lol... I'd take offence too, if anyone would measure the standards of Malaysian English by k0sh's postings.... what with me being a true-blue Malaysian, born-and-bred. ;-)
True, thanks to the wonderful efforts of our government (I won't go into the corny joke of how oxymoronic our government intelligence is...) the standards may be declining, but it's nowhere near what would be termed "horrid", and sure, we'll have our versions of hillbillies and rednecks (referred affectionately, though politically incorrectly as "jakuns"...) who'd mangle the language to no end... but it'll be quite rare for an English-speaking person to not be able to hold a decent conversation with any Malaysian in the Queen's language here, except of course, you run into the people I've just alluded to... ;-)
Anyway, the idea and intent behind this thread is noble, and to be honest k0sh was just trying to help. Yes, the execution may be a tad flawed, so instead of just harping on him or his standards of English (true, his penchant for "txt-spk" doesn't help matters either)... let's just do what stoney has done, and help each other...
@k0sh... you might wanna change your topic title though, as it's incredibly misleading. Maybe you're trying to have an eye-catching title, but it didn't work, so a change in the title might be warranted. Say, something more straightforward like: "Read this before you post...." or something to that effect, perhaps?
Have fun and be nice...
tpb
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Satu Malaysia
probably i'll change it , but with another sticky name .. cuz they don't give a damn about rules , announcements . so i better think of silly name ) ..
Out of topic : they will not know the malaysian ppl until they eat a damn nasi lemak ( fried rice ) ... or come and try and see how the malaysian ppl are kind , easy , normal , they make you love them ..
Satu Malaysia >)

Why are there two different Nexus 4 Development Threads?

1- Original Android Development
2 - Android Development
Got a clue?
FYI all questions should be in the Q&A section. You should ask to have this thread moved.
Not sure but I have been running code fire x BR2 with matrix kernel in the original section and loving this combo!:thumbup:
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OK, if someone could please move this to the QA thread please. Didnt know if it had to do with this thread if it should be in here... wasnt really a question about the nexus
DATSUN.510 said:
FYI all questions should be in the Q&A section. You should ask to have this thread moved.
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Agreed
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ml3000 said:
1- Original Android Development
2 - Android Development
Got a clue?
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original android development = original android development (ie building android from source)
android development = using a base/other sources and adding in certain features/tweaks
so your thread is clearly posted in the wrong forum!
Original Android Dev has "ORIGINAL" DEV. It has official ports and works that are ORIGINAL and NEW.
The other has port and custom built roms.
Hope this helps and IB4L
Its to fake out all the people that like posting questions in the developers thread.
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tspx23 said:
original android development = original android development (ie building android from source)
android development = using a base/other sources and adding in certain features/tweaks
so your thread is clearly posted in the wrong forum!
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Ahh, makes perfect sense, thanks.
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Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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Yeah we all love the "fake" mods that tell everyone what to do lmao
Good points there dude. Sadly these little XDA kids will always be like this. Just like in COD smh
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Nuff bromance thread jacking.
Ask questions in the question sub forum...common sense ain't so common.
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Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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NoLunchBox_ said:
Yeah we all love the "fake" mods that tell everyone what to do lmao
Good points there dude. Sadly these little XDA kids will always be like this. Just like in COD smh
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Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
New people come here and they aren't aware of the rules. Then, members who are more acquainted tell them the standard behavior and how they should treat the forums. "Post topics in relevant subforums. Questions go in Q&A, accessories goes in Accessories, etc" and "this has already been answered, you should have used the search function."
These are not rules made to piss you off. They are not rules by accident. They are suggestions of common sense and practical experience that helps prevent the forums from becoming disorganized and repetitive. You have no idea what a burden it is to have dozens of threads talking about the same thing. Or, to want to browse threads of a certain theme (Themes, for example), but every other thread is of a vastly different topic.
It is tremendously childish to disparage someone who is trying to help enforce rules. They only do so for the sake of clarity and organization. You are being very unhelpful by not directing new users and letting them do whatever they want. What do you think is accomplished if everyone takes your attitude? Those new users require feedback and guidance. The only response OP should make in regard to this is: "oh, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me so genially. I will remember this lesson."
It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like. You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
Don't think the mods are ever vigilant and omnipotent. Unless they read through every post of every thread, they aren't going to catch everything. That's why there's a report button next to every post. Simply posting a comment to let new users know that the posters should adhere to certain guidelines to maintain organization and reduce clutter helps mods tremendously by distributing the manpower needed to manage a huge forum like xda.
Seriously, the other posters are actually contributing by informing OP of how the site works, while you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!" This attitude leads to a terribly organized forum. I can't even fathom what goes through your heads. "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
Honestly, you two need to grow up.
Hung0702 said:
Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
New people come here and they aren't aware of the rules. Then, members who are more acquainted tell them the standard behavior and how they should treat the forums. "Post topics in relevant subforums. Questions go in Q&A, accessories goes in Accessories, etc" and "this has already been answered, you should have used the search function."
These are not rules made to piss you off. They are not rules by accident. They are suggestions of common sense and practical experience that helps prevent the forums from becoming disorganized and repetitive. You have no idea what a burden it is to have dozens of threads talking about the same thing. Or, to want to browse threads of a certain theme (Themes, for example), but every other thread is of a vastly different topic.
It is tremendously childish to disparage someone who is trying to help enforce rules. They only do so for the sake of clarity and organization. You are being very unhelpful by not directing new users and letting them do whatever they want. What do you think is accomplished if everyone takes your attitude? Those new users require feedback and guidance. The only response OP should make in regard to this is: "oh, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me so genially. I will remember this lesson."
It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like. You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
Don't think the mods are ever vigilant and omnipotent. Unless they read through every post of every thread, they aren't going to catch everything. That's why there's a report button next to every post. Simply posting a comment to let new users know that the posters should adhere to certain guidelines to maintain organization and reduce clutter helps mods tremendously by distributing the manpower needed to manage a huge forum like xda.
Seriously, the other posters are actually contributing by informing OP of how the site works, while you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!" This attitude leads to a terribly organized forum. I can't even fathom what goes through your heads. "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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To inform ppl & to direct our newer members to the correct forums is one thing, But to make fun of or to ridicule users is another & not acceptable let alone helpful. Its because of [email protected]$$ comments like that, that alot of users have left to other Android forums. Bravo you deserve a star for that...NOT.
If you actually read my post above you would see that I was not referring to our members that were helpful, But only the ones that creat a bad user experience for our newer/older members alike. Kind of like you. I rest my case.
There's a reason that not everybody is a mod. Thankfully you are not
MODS please close/move this thread to the correct forum already.
Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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It's funny how you contradict yourself in your own post. You say that if you don't answer the question, that you shouldn't respond negatively, yet you throw out a few quips at other people.
You say none of us have the power to do a thing about this post yet you are wrong. Every single member should have the ability to report this thread for moving. Seeing as how you passively say that the mods will find this thread, I'm assuming you didn't report this thread either. Simply saying "mods please move this thread" doesn't bring it to their attention. They are not omnipotent and are not alerted to a new thread by simply posting "MODS."
I've gone ahead and reported the thread to be moved. For future reference to anyone who sees a thread posted in the wrong place. Feel free to direct the member to the correct location, but also report the thread for housekeeping.
Stryder5 said:
It's funny how you contradict yourself in your own post. You say that if you don't answer the question, that you shouldn't respond negatively, yet you throw out a few quips at other people.
You say none of us have the power to do a thing about this post yet you are wrong. Every single member should have the ability to report this thread for moving. Seeing as how you passively say that the mods will find this thread, I'm assuming you didn't report this thread either. Simply saying "mods please move this thread" doesn't bring it to their attention. They are not omnipotent and are not alerted to a new thread by simply posting "MODS."
I've gone ahead and reported the thread to be moved. For future reference to anyone who sees a thread posted in the wrong place. Feel free to direct the member to the correct location, but also report the thread for housekeeping.
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My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
Dave778 said:
My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
Dave778 said:
My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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Rather than carrying out this conversation over a thread that has already been answered, I went ahead and PM'ed you to prevent spamming up this thread.
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Hung0702 said:
Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
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I agree with you Hung. Your responses have been well-written and appropriate. I also agree that Dave's posts have been more instigating than anything else. However, I think it would be best to take this to PM as I have. I wrote out a nice response, similar to the kind you have written and sent it via PM so it doesn't look like we are arguing on the boards. Let's keep it clean. I encourage Dave to do the same and reply via PM
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
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Save the drama. I'm not going to babysit you (I'm not a mod) or go digging through your posts trying to prove to everyone what's already been said & done/seen. Your posts speak for themselves, need I say more?.
Your previous posts where anything but appropriate but everyone is entitled to their opinion... Even Stryder.
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What the hell, u asked so here I am babysitting (last time Hung)
Hung0702 said:
(1) -Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
(2) -It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like.
(3) -You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
(4) -you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!"
(5) - "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
(6) - Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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(1) Abuse aimed directly at another forum member (directly at 2 members actually)
(2) Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members + Name calling
(3) Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members
(4) Spreading lies about other forum members who said no such thing or did such a thing
(5) Making more false statements about other forum members who said or did no such thing
(6) Borderline Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members
Yeah... Real appropriate. I'm done wasting my time with you. I could go on but I'll stop here as I have more important things to do than argue with ... well ...you
Hows that for (in your words) "exact"?
You create a horrible abusive user experience here at XDA. I'm ashamed to have even replyed to you.
It's no wonder why so many people have left XDA to goto other forums when opinionated extremists like yourself are belittling & harassing every new member that comes along.
You talk nonsense to me & I'll put you in your place. Nothing you could do or say could faze me the slightest, But new members who haven't been around as long feel harassed, threatened & uncomfortable when you abuse them (like you tried to do with me & NoLunchBox_) & they leave for other forums.
Recognize
MODERATORS please move this thread to the proper forum & close. The OP got his answer and now it has just become an abuse thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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