I can imagine how annoying this can be,
silly questions and such,
I have a t-mobile phone (pw10a1),
and I was wondering which rom to cook,
or whether I can use the one posted here?
Since its a T-Mobile I'd go with ROM 4.00.16.
HTH
I'm using the ROM version 4.00.16(T-Mobile) with T-Mobile's newest radio stack 6.24.00.
(Kitchen Cooked)
Been the best this phone has ever worked! No more dropped calls, no more much of any problems!
Dear All,
I currently have an XDA I
ROM Version: 4.00.05 ENG
ROM Date: 06/05/03
Radio Version: 4.21.00
Protocol Version: 32S554
Using the Optus Service in Sydney Australia I am having dramas with the phone loosing signal but more importantly not restablishing a network connection when I am in areas that have excellent coverage. My questions are:
1. Am I using the best radio/rom etc?
2. Is there any tweeks etc I can perform on the XDA I to improve performance.
Many thanks, Andrew
PS hanging out for Optus to release the XDA II on a good price 8)
Andrew,
Where did you get that ROM version from?
My XDA I used to suffer from similar problems on both Optus and Tel$tra until I upgraded to ROM 3.20.06 ENG with Radio 4.21.00 (from MYXDA.COM official release).
I'm now on Vodafone which is significantly cheaper for my usage level, and although it still generally has less signal than a normal GSM phone, it rarely if ever fails to reconnect quickly.
If you have the technical nouse to do so, you might consider downgrading to this ROM. Since your'e in Oz too, I'd happily send you a CD copy of the ROM.
Codenix.
I downloaded the ROM from Yorks Kitchen. I can't remember the URL but it's here on XDA Developers. I did this so that I could run the Windows Mobile 2003 on my XDA 1. The phone windows software is better but the reception is crappy. We'll it's ok but I think it could be better. On another note I rang Optus sales today and asked about the XDA II, their reply "er.........I really don't know.........sorry". What a shame. I guess ebay is the best option.
Andrew,
Was the phone reception better prior to upgrading the ROM?
BTW - Telstra Shop have the i-mate for $1329 for 1 (or $1289 or similar for 2) if you purchase outright. This is the same device as the XDA II.
Codenix,
Thanks for your reply mate. The reception was better before I upgraded to WM2003. The reception I have now is not that bad but It's definitely not excellent. It's when the signal drops and it has to re-connect that the problem arises. I don't really want an Imate and I wanna stay with Optus to avoid the hassles and keep using the feel time after 8pm etc. Thanks,
Andrew.
i had similar problem with this radio stack & was a pain in the ass since i couldn't change its version, i finally downloaded version 3.25 which was in all cases better, the signal indicator doesn't show much but it is much much much better than the version 4.21 since it doesn't disconnect & picksup signal easly
I've searched through the forums but can't find anyone asking this and I'm curious. After trying out a lot of different cooked ROM's using USPL and tweaking/testing/sampling what's around I'm getting very confident about tweaking my HD thanks now to this 5-star community and site!
I'm still unclear about what advantages/dangers are there to upgrading your radio version? I totally respect the usual dangers of bricking your device during a rom/software upgrade and all the usual banter surrounding tweaking a device, but wondering specifically why someone would want to upgrade their radio? Is it dependent on your carrier and country of region/usage? What should you be aware of or should you only ever upgrade radio version under very specific situations?
I'm running radio 1.13.25.24 in Australia using Telstra on unlocked HD.
Thanks!
noofny said:
I've searched through the forums but can't find anyone asking this and I'm curious. After trying out a lot of different cooked ROM's using USPL and tweaking/testing/sampling what's around I'm getting very confident about tweaking my HD thanks now to this 5-star community and site!
I'm still unclear about what advantages/dangers are there to upgrading your radio version? I totally respect the usual dangers of bricking your device during a rom/software upgrade and all the usual banter surrounding tweaking a device, but wondering specifically why someone would want to upgrade their radio? Is it dependent on your carrier and country of region/usage? What should you be aware of or should you only ever upgrade radio version under very specific situations?
I'm running radio 1.13.25.24 in Australia using Telstra on unlocked HD.
Thanks!
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We Update Radios for Better reception.. signal and etc improve of the Conection and things like this.
So for me.. you know that the Touch HD have a few second delay when someone calling you...
WHen i flash my RADIO with thelatest one 1.17 and also install a RILHONE 1.14 the phone start to respond without any delay.. also the improvment of signal was cool in some place that befor i have 1 bar signal now i have 3 or more.. the Wi Fi is a bit faster and etc
Also the GPS can improve depends...
So the Radio only by himself can`t do the same for everyone also depends from the ROM you useing and from the Mobile Operator
Like you can see im from Bulgaria and for me the Radio 1.17 with 1.14 Rilphone is the best combination but for you can be diferent....
Anyway the NEW Radio is made to Improve, if we don`t have what to improve there we will not need form a new Radio and HTC will not make a new Radios this that they make new Radios mean that.. still have what to be improved.
This is not only with the RADIOS always when have some UPDATE no matter for your Desktop PC or your Phone or whatever the Update = Improve, of course not all the time the NEW = BETTER and bugs FREE but this is the idea
I've been wondering bout this very same question as well; have been flashing and modding for a while now (aprox 4-5 monthes) and this was goning to be my next port of call. I'm from Oz also but am on the optus network, did you buy the legit next G network telstra HD (T 8285), or just the standard T 8282 ....??
Well I decided to give it a go and upgraded last night to the latest 1.17.25.09 so will post back here with results. It certainly is a very easy and quick process once you understand the USPL process and have already stuffed around with custom ROMs.
naa77 said:
I've been wondering bout this very same question as well; have been flashing and modding for a while now (aprox 4-5 monthes) and this was goning to be my next port of call. I'm from Oz also but am on the optus network, did you buy the legit next G network telstra HD (T 8285), or just the standard T 8282 ....??
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I bought a standard unlocked stock T8282 from some Aussie online store (which means it would have come straight from Hong Kong), paid little extra for extended warranty (recommended). Dunno what you mean by 'legit' lol...I'm strongly against the big telcos and the scams they pull making people pay more for a device that has limited functionality and usually locked down and defecated with their corporate logos and ****e. When you want a device, you buy the device. A telco is a service provider of a network service, not a hardware supplier or software house or device tweaker. If you cant afford the device, put it on a credit card and pay a bank off instead of a telco and just get a pre-paid account. In AUS the telcos try and charge unaware peeps $70 and more just to unkock a phone they have locked themselves. Those 'plans' end up costing people over $2000 after 2 years...stoopid. End rant...
Hello all,
I've started this thread to serve as a repository for information on the HTC HD2 model variant "T9193", the 850Mhz 3G-equipped version sold by Telstra in Australia. On a general level, most discussions applying to the regular HD2 are still relevant, however the T9193 has its own set of questions, hopefully answews to which can be tracked in here.
If there are any more sections of information people find useful it may be added at a later time. So let's get started-
What is it?
Model: HTC T9193
Available on the Telstra network in Australia
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/phones/phone_details.cfm?phone=HD2
Why should I buy this model?
If you are on a network that uses 850MHz frequency for its 3G bands (AT&T, Rogers, Telstra, etc), the HD2 T8585 will not give you full 3G reception, as this phone operates on 900MHz.
Where can I buy it?
There are a few e-tailers currently shipping the T9193. Here are the ones we have so far; if you've found it in-stock elsewhere let me know so I can add it to the list.
Australian sellers:
Telstra http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/phones/phone_details.cfm?phone=HD2 (some members report they will only ship overseas if you call them directly)
Personal Digital http://personaldigital.com.au/p380/...NEXTG-850Mhz-AT&T-Roger-&-Telecom-NZ/buy.html (ships overseas, 1-3 day shipping available)
Mobicity http://www.mobicity.com.au/htc-hd2-next-g.html Member 'agoattamer' purchased his unit from this site, so for specific questions on their service you might contact him
North American sellers:
Negri Electronics http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-t9193-smartphone-unlocked-p-3108.html
What's in the box?
Box contents for Telstra-branded phones are:
HD2 T9193
Leather slip case
USB cable (approx. 3')
Australian wall charger
16GB microSD card
Stereo headphones
Is the phone SIM locked?
Most users (myself included) have reported that the phone does NOT need to be SIM unlocked - any GSM SIM should work in the device.
Is the phone physically branded?
There are two very small logos on the back lower half of the phone, on the soft-touch material. The color is gray, and isn't too noticeable
Can I flash a different ROM?
Yes, however HardSPL must be applied first.
Read this thread (very carefully!).
Official ROMs from HTC are available here; click the 'shared folder' link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717
Can I download the original Telstra ROM?
The original stock ROM from Telstra (with all Telstra bloatware/customizations) is available here:
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1474
Can I flash a different Radio version?
Other users have reported flashing to other radio versions without losing 850MHz reception. Note that depending on the ROM/Radio you may lose the option for manually selecting 850MHz from the dropdown list under Phone settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Can I customize the three Quicklinks on the Home screen without flashing a new ROM?
Yes, see this thread for a cab file that unlocks customization for the quicklinks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5452464&postcount=1
Are there any hardware issues related to this model variant?
Pink Hue
With the T8585 there have been widespread reports of a pink hue in the center of camera images. They attempted to remediate this through a software patch, however the issue persisted if a few tweaks were applied to the camera settings, indicating this could be a hardware fault.
There have been no reports of pink hue from T9193 users yet.
White Paint on Hardware Buttons inconsistently applied, results in uneven lighting
A few users have reported having this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5661628&postcount=54
How do I remove that stubborn battery cover?
Pocketnow.com has posted a video explaining an easier method for removing the very tight battery cover (that's a good thing though!) without breaking a fingernail:
http://pocketnow.com/how-to/easily-remove-the-battery-cover-on-the-htc-hd2
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Hey I have the t9193 and the camera appears to be just fine. The chassis build on this model is real tight. We won't be removing this battery cover as easily as the HD, but you also gain better fit metal cover which doesn't squeek like the plastic ones did on HD.
Actually, here's a good way to easily remove the battery - works very well for me!
http://pocketnow.com/how-to/easily-remove-the-battery-cover-on-the-htc-hd2
I have just received my T9193. My camera dosent have the pink tint either. Only problem i have is data connection occasionaly stops working and i need to reset. Hopefully we can find a solution soon. When 3g is working the data connection is pretty quick.
dynamo84ll said:
I have just received my T9193. My camera dosent have the pink tint either. Only problem i have is data connection occasionaly stops working and i need to reset. Hopefully we can find a solution soon. When 3g is working the data connection is pretty quick.
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I'm actually having the very same issue. There's an open thread about this but no solution from anyone... what ROM and radio are you running? Are you still on the stock Telstra ROM? I flashed to 1.66 WWE.
dynamo84ll said:
...Only problem i have is data connection occasionaly stops working and i need to reset. Hopefully we can find a solution soon. When 3g is working the data connection is pretty quick.
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+1
I have the 9193 and get this on a variety of ROMs. I am usually able to fix the data connection by terminating the data connection on the quick menu, which is quicker than a reset."
mlekas said:
+1
I have the 9193 and get this on a variety of ROMs. I am usually able to fix the data connection by terminating the data connection on the quick menu, which is quicker than a reset."
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+1 on your comment. I don't notice it. It actually sucks when you use this for Biz and don't notice that you have no emails.
I wish there was a fix for this. I just disable the Sense from tonight and want to see if I notice any changes in anything.
dynamo84ll said:
I have just received my T9193. My camera dosent have the pink tint either. Only problem i have is data connection occasionaly stops working and i need to reset. Hopefully we can find a solution soon. When 3g is working the data connection is pretty quick.
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I have this issue, but you don't have to reset [the phone], just go to the Comm Manager and toggle "Phone" off and then back on.
Since this is the 'official' reference thread:
I have NOT had this issue. I saw it once and I'm pretty sure it was a network problem in that area - I switched to EDGE and all was well.
I typically run the latest radios/6.5.x roms, currently R2.08.50.05 w/ Artemis 3.7. I do a mtty format between flashes just to be sure I'm starting from a clean slate.
I have an exchange account that has push email enabled around the clock and I've never noticed any delivery delays.
Just a thought: iPhone users are known for being vocal complainers against the ATT network. Could there be some truth to their allegations, and you guys are just seeing it as well?
Hey looking to pick one of these up to use in new york on att. Had iphones since they came out. Will be my first wm phone. Hoping they release wm7 for the hd2 real soon . Can yoi guys tell me where you purchased yours from. Trying to gauge whag other people are paying because the 8585 are going for around 600 on ebay now
well I got mine today and have not found any issues yet camera seems fine actually very impressed data speed seems very fast.. no loss of connection but then I've only started using it
I am using the asia wwe 1.66 rom with stock telstra radio. The telstra rom had so much bloatware i couldnt stand it.
My data connection stopped working last night while i was sleeping. I woke up and received the connection error again, i was connected to my home wifi !! Toogling the airplane mode on and off does fix this, but its very annoying.
Secondly, I was an iphone user before the hd2. AT&T in western NY is pretty good, i rarely drop calls. Around my area I constantly have the big "H". MMS and SMS work well. Only problem is when the data connection quits for no reason.
Has anyone had better luck with the 2.2 rom for tmobile us?
thatg said:
Hey looking to pick one of these up to use in new york on att. Had iphones since they came out. Will be my first wm phone. Hoping they release wm7 for the hd2 real soon . Can yoi guys tell me where you purchased yours from. Trying to gauge whag other people are paying because the 8585 are going for around 600 on ebay now
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See the links in the first post of this thread.
The lowest price ive seen is from Personal Digital in Australia; I paid 780 USD shipped to the US. There are some on ebay too (the T9193 specifically - just make sure you're looking at the right one!), but they are in the 900 range.
PersonalDigital is the way to go. You won't find it cheaper since everyone else is making a killer overhead on it! I saw one place in the US selling it for $1k+
After flashing a new rom I have tried to run the hotfix that fixes the sd card issue, but it tells me the hotfix is not compatible with my phone. Im guessing maybe because the hardware changes from T9193 to T8585 in the hardware info when flashing ROMS. I downloaded the U.S. hotfix because I am in the U.S.but may I need to download AU version since my T9193 obviously came from Australia?
Which ROM did you flash?
I think all of the patches ONLY apply to ROMs less than version 1.66. Starting at 1.66 the hotfixes were rolled into the ROM update.
HD2 Telstra T9193 experience (Argentina)
Hi , i'd like to report my experience with my recently received HD2 T9193 from Telstra (Australia). I am from Buenos Aires, Argentina (same 3G american bands as AT&T, UMTS 850/1900)
I guarantee that flashing custom ROMs AND various Radios available in XDA work perfectly . Even those ROMs which, being cooked with original HD2 packages, display '1900/2100' UMTS bands, in Comm Manager, when you lock to 'only WCDMA', it uses actual hardware UMTS bands, hard-coded on chip.
Also, i don't suffer from any noticeable issue up to know, either aesthetically on the phone, or on hardware (like the so mentioned 'pink' in camera, data connection crashes, etc).
Phone just feels flawless, identical to original HD2, but with american 3G UMTS bands....
And BTW 3G speeds are incredibly good, but probably what surprised me the most, are the blazingly fast EDGE speeds! by far the speedest edge phone i put my hands on... really makes a difference...
matthewf01 said:
Which ROM did you flash?
I think all of the patches ONLY apply to ROMs less than version 1.66. Starting at 1.66 the hotfixes were rolled into the ROM update.
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I was also thinking that but being that my sd card has displayed the same number of capacity since day one means that It hasnt been applied. So im looking for an answer that could help me get this solved because its quite annoying. I have read and heard that it mostly applies to 8gb and 16gb and Im using the 16gb from Telstra
dynamo84ll said:
Has anyone had better luck with the 2.2 rom for tmobile us?
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I would like to hear if any T9193 users have tried the Tmo US roms? Does anyone know if those ROMs include a radio, and how that radio works with the T9193?