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Hiya,
I just showed my girlfriend my new Nexus One, and honestly I expected her to love it as much as I did. Anyway, she found the screen exaggeratedly large, and said it didn't fit in her hand. In short, she would have loved a smaller version of it.
She has a Samsung Corby and its smaller screen seems to be enough for her. That made me think, has there been word about making an Android phone with a much smaller screen, and thus a much smaller size? Truth be told, that would save battery which seems to be the main problem with these phones right now.
Do you think such a phone would sell well? Would there be a market niche for it?
I think 3.7 inch is the perfect size. Going higher would make it too big, but going lower would reduce the viewing area too much for my liking.
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Hiya,
I just showed my girlfriend my new Nexus One, and honestly I expected her to love it as much as I did. Anyway, she found the screen exaggeratedly large, and said it didn't fit in her hand. In short, she would have loved a smaller version of it.
She has a Samsung Corby and its smaller screen seems to be enough for her. That made me think, has there been word about making an Android phone with a much smaller screen, and thus a much smaller size? Truth be told, that would save battery which seems to be the main problem with these phones right now.
Do you think such a phone would sell well? Would there be a market niche for it?
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Sounds like your girlfriend is used to having small things in her hand?
Seriously though, LG do a small phone and it looks great unfortunately the screen resolution and quality are very poor. It could have been really nice.
Samsung makes retarded looking phones. You can't ever expect anyone who likes Samsung to like a different style. And...the learning curve would be too much for her to handle.
Wouldn't a myTouch 3G fill that need perfectly then? I do believe it is a bit smaller than the N1, and it does have a smaller screen at 3.2.
The hero is a great phone. And it's got a small screen, 3.2 inch I think.
Personally I think anything smaller than 3.7 is too small for a smartphone. The iPhone has a wierd screen size ratio to make it seem bigger, but i often found it was too small still.
I haven't tried anything such as the HD2 so 3.7inch is the largest phone i've used so far.
I think 3.9/4 inches would be an ideal size, but ONLY if the battery was above 2000mAh. With a phone that long, the battery wouldn't even protrude much at all.
Amdathlonuk said:
Sounds like your girlfriend is used to having small things in her hand?
Seriously though, LG do a small phone and it looks great unfortunately the screen resolution and quality are very poor. It could have been really nice.
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LOL. (10char)
You're looking for this: 2.8" touchscreen / 256MB RAM / 512MB ROM / 3.5" headphone jack.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-2932.php
Yes, it's resistive. But it's a great upgrade from the Corby.
On the other hand though, what isn't?
What about the samsung behold II?
melterx12 said:
I think 3.7 inch is the perfect size. Going higher would make it too big, but going lower would reduce the viewing area too much for my liking.
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So the HTC Supersonic is too big for you? You know you'd take it in a heartbeat if you had the chance.
Amdathlonuk said:
Sounds like your girlfriend is used to having small things in her hand?
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Zing!
uansari1 said:
So the HTC Supersonic is too big for you? You know you'd take it in a heartbeat if you had the chance.
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I've played around quite a bit with the Touch HD2 and I must say I wouldn't buy a phone that big. Sure it's fantastic to have that kind of screen real estate, but as a phone for day to day use, no.
Amdathlonuk said:
Sounds like your girlfriend is used to having small things in her hand?
Absolute Cracker! made me laugh out loud....
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Redant said:
Absolute Cracker! made me laugh out loud....
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Yeah, that was a one-hit kill dude
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I've played around quite a bit with the Touch HD2 and I must say I wouldn't buy a phone that big. Sure it's fantastic to have that kind of screen real estate, but as a phone for day to day use, no.
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Fair enough... I haven't had a chance to play with anything with a bigger screen than the N1. Interested in trying it out, but I can see your point.
I would gladly rock a 4.3" Android in a heartbeat, cant wait till a few come out, if theres one thing instantly noticible about the Nexus its the massive screen size compared to the G1/MyTouch, I think the HD2 is a great size, just needs a keyboard and android : )
http://tinyurl.com/39n8acx
Seems, really cool
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They said its a Mid-range phone and the Fascinate is considered High end so the specs are bound to be worse. i will probably have a smaller screen because of the ticker
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/09/27/htc.verizon.qwerty.slider.gets.detailed.shots/
this phone looks decent though
Apparently BGR got a tip that it has the same internals as the fascinate:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/09/30/new-hi-res-images-info-on-verizons-samsung-continuum/
Does anyone else feel screwed?
That thing is ugly. It looks like someone took a Fascinate and put it in a taffy puller.
I'm happy with what I've got
so it would have to be longer than the fascinate because of the second screen is it 4" or 3.5?
3.5 for the upper screen.
nvm im not looking for smaller resolution!...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Apparently BGR got a tip that it has the same internals as the fascinate:
Does anyone else feel screwed?
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Absolutely not. I myself so no need for that extra screen. If part of their intention to make it a notifier screen when device is asleep, then a front facing color led would have been suffice. And with large hands myself I've been holding my fascinate in my hand and envisioning the extra length (that's what she said) and the rounded bottom. And it would seem to be a huge balancing act and never mind the thumb acrobatics required to get from top to bottom. And how weird would it be to type in landscape? I love the ergonomics of the fascinate and I DO NOT like the look of that thing at all. And it would also be funny if they kept the same 1500mAh battery with the added hardware.
Feeling screwed, no. A little pity, yes.
good day.
dialect129 said:
nvm im not looking for smaller resolution!...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Smaller screen doesn't mean smaller resolution. Droid 1 has better resolution than Fascinate and Droid X.
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Smaller screen doesn't mean smaller resolution. Droid 1 has better resolution than Fascinate and Droid X.
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Fixed with LCD Density app though.
droid..meh lol... but i get you but like he said lcd density its great works like a dream unless i take the batterie out to tinker and it ****ing resets
here's the link..
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-prepping-galaxy-q-with-huge-53-inch-display-for-ifa
No specs confirmed. lets start what we thnk it will have..
Super AMOLED.. sounds nice.
I would bet it gets an 8MP, hoping for maore than 1.3 front cam with all the video chat services available.
dual-core would make this thing very popular. Form factor will be a major point.
Honestly, Dell Streak innovate this and no one will come with a better idea. 5" exactly fit the pocket any extra will be too much.
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5.3 might be a little too big...a friend of mine just got the 4.5" samsung infuse and it's a very nice size. 4.5-5" is the range I want.
you could technically increase the screen size of a phone to 5.3 without making the actual phone bigger in size than the streak, the side panels on either side of the streak are very big and could be utilised for extra screen realestate imo.
I will definitely jump on this one if all the specs are good. We will need dual core on this one!
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Alexanderbooth said:
you could technically increase the screen size of a phone to 5.3 without making the actual phone bigger in size than the streak, the side panels on either side of the streak are very big and could be utilised for extra screen realestate imo.
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exactly, who needs bezel? I mean sure, we need speakers and a mic and front cam, but all of that is already so small. Iam one for a minimalistic bezel look.
If it is good size/design I will be interested.
Sammy and TouchWiz.. not so much so, but there latest version should be nice to fiddle with for a while, something new for a change.
what resolution would they do with a .3" larger display??
960x540 probably.
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exactly, who needs bezel? I mean sure, we need speakers and a mic and front cam, but all of that is already so small. Iam one for a minimalistic bezel look.
If it is good size/design I will be interested.
Sammy and TouchWiz.. not so much so, but there latest version should be nice to fiddle with for a while, something new for a change.
what resolution would they do with a .3" larger display??
960x540 probably.
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I agree could be a very promising phone, to be honest I think you could get an extra inch screen size out the streak cause the bezel on each side and the top and bottom, would easily make up another inch. 6 inch screen!!!!!
But I think the streak is the perfect size, if the phone was any bigger it wouldn't fit in your pocket.
So more screen same size!!! :-D
Bezel
Streak could have that if they make the capacitive buttons on screen, and do away with the top & bottom bezel. There is a good .5" of wasted space on the streak.
I'm keeping my eye on this rumor. If it pans out, might be my streak replacement (sorry Dell...you didn't know what you had!)
Actually, the glass on the Streak is just a hair under 5.5 inches diagonal, so if they could make the display edge to edge, they could beat the Samsung without changing the form factor at all.
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Actually, the glass on the Streak is just a hair under 5.5 inches diagonal, so if they could make the display edge to edge, they could beat the Samsung without changing the form factor at all.
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....THIS....
Hope they make this happen
Hi
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This could be Streak successor. It is true, that the screen can be actually bigger and device maybe even smaller then Streak, so let's wait for some pictures, specifications etc.
On the other hand, I hear somewhere that it should have querty keyboard which might be nice but then it might not be thin like Streak.
But then, think about support for this phone! Released drivers, kernels etc., so custom roms development will be much easier and there will be probably better support from apps developers (because Samsung will actually do some marketing for this tablet/phone unlike Dell).
Anyway, I probably won't have money to buy it
So long as it's not ****ty shiny plastic like every other Samsung/LG phone I'm happy.
I want quality metals/aluminium like Dell/HTC then it would have me interested.
kanej2006 said:
I want quality metals/aluminium like Dell/HTC then it would have me interested.
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When i look at my streak, i don´t see quality at all. the red paintjob is ****ty as hell. the paint cracks up on edges - even when you treat it with care! Dell denied my request of replacing the device or repair it...
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... hoping for more than 1.3 front cam with all the video chat services available. dual-core would make this thing very popular. Form factor will be a major point.
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I'm hoping for a (vertical) slide-out keyboard. Am I the only one on this planet that thinks a phone this big deserves a hardware slider keyboard????
ameiurus said:
I'm hoping for a (vertical) slide-out keyboard. Am I the only one on this planet that thinks a phone this big deserves a hardware slider keyboard????
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Make it too thick. I rather like it thin. Looks almost elegant. Thicken it up and it looks clunky.
With this much screen real estate a properly designed virtual keypad should be fine.
iT iS Me said:
Honestly, Dell Streak innovate this and no one will come with a better idea. 5" exactly fit the pocket any extra will be too much.
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Ayeman, cousin! Ayeman
just dont make it one of those damn "foldable" screens like the keyocera echo and the new sonys. Those things look horrible..
Alexanderbooth said:
you could technically increase the screen size of a phone to 5.3 without making the actual phone bigger in size than the streak, the side panels on either side of the streak are very big and could be utilised for extra screen realestate imo.
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i quite agree with you.
I just wanted to say that I dislike the trend of manufacturers making bigger displays. First jump was to 4.3" , then 4.5" and now we see a new HTC with 4.7".
In my opinion. Screen sizes above 4" becomes unpractical.
I love my Samsung Galaxy S. And the 4" is a reasonable size (since its light and slim).
I just want to encourage Samsung not to follow this stupid trend and hope that their future versions (sgs3?) will go back to 4" or even maybe smaller.
I almost agree, I think the sgs2 is just about as big a screen as I would like to see, any larger is impractical. If we wanted a NotePad, we'd buy one
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A SGS with a 3.7" screen would be great.
rufmao said:
A SGS with a 3.7" screen would be great.
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3.7" is small... 4" is optimal imho.
I'm wondering what you'll say when galaxy NOTE arrives with 5.3 "
Well technically the Samsung Galaxy Note is known to have 5.3 inches screensize so I guess they already went on the war to make the hybrid between 7 inch tablet and the smartphones.
DerivatBG said:
Well technically the Samsung Galaxy Note is known to have 5.3 inches screensize so I guess they already went on the war to make the hybrid between 7 inch tablet and the smartphones.
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We already had that with the Streak. Major flop.
robogo1982 said:
We already had that with the Streak. Major flop.
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I won't be buying a tablet, so I'd consider the Samsung Note. yes it's big, but some people carry a tablet and a phone anyway and this is a lot more compact than that option.
Anyway no one has to buy anything they don't like; Samsung is still making phones in different sizes.
Personally although I like 4" when used as a phone, I find it too small for browsing, gps and games. In this regard the note is a nice size. If I don't get a note, I'd be happy up to 4.5" for phone along with big bump in resolution.
They don't make it as 4.3"-4.5" unless most people like them, so as long as they make sgs3 as 4.3" or bigger if they see it sell best then that is their good decision.
You can wait your smaller screen for other phone than samsung galaxy s!
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hackeron said:
I just wanted to say that I dislike the trend of manufacturers making bigger displays. First jump was to 4.3" , then 4.5" and now we see a new HTC with 4.7".
In my opinion. Screen sizes above 4" becomes unpractical.
I love my Samsung Galaxy S. And the 4" is a reasonable size (since its light and slim).
I just want to encourage Samsung not to follow this stupid trend and hope that their future versions (sgs3?) will go back to 4" or even maybe smaller.
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Once ics comes out the soft keys will be gone, so it will just fill in. So generally same size but less bezel and wasted space.
Think Tony Starks phone as eventual endpoint. Probably not see through though.
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VexMunja said:
3.7" is small... 4" is optimal imho.
I'm wondering what you'll say when galaxy NOTE arrives with 5.3 "
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You know what's funny? Because of this quote it's better to make devices in every possible size. Each to it's own.
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I just wish I will have enough money saved around April, May 2012 (my contract ends then) to get the Galaxy Note which in my opinion is a marvel, the only problem would be finding a leather pocket type case for it but for my usual use of mostly browsing and chatting and some video watching along with casual gaming it will be quite nice at 5.3" yet for phone calls I think I will have to get a BT headset to feel comfortable.
I absolutely LOVE this trend, That's long been one of my biggest wishes regarding smartphones!
I even tried to replace my then smartphone with the Galaxy Tab but it didn't fit the fanny pack that I *always* use. A 5.5"/6" smartphone would be ideal for me and I will definitely change my Galaxy S for the Galaxy Note as soon as it's out and off its peak launch price!
I think we'll see 4.5" in a similar size as the SGS with a much smaller bezel in the near future. I've seen R&D on more digitizers that will reduce the need for space on the one side (right now top or bottom has the digitizer support stick out 1/4" or so from the screen).
I agree 5" could even work with a headset, I use the wired one that came with my SGS it's fine. It wouldn't be for everybody but my pocket could hold a 5" device with a small bezel (and preferably a rounded back) just fine.
No **** jokes yet? I am impressed.
I prefer the screen size of the S II. A lot of times the screen of galaxy S just feels a little too small.
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No **** jokes yet? I am impressed.
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Why should we make fun of ****? The man never hurt nobody
I hope that they make a 4" and the 5.3". Between the two, the person should be able to choose. And hopefully the hardware is the same that you don't lose out by buying the screen. You can charge extra for the extra screen space but don't cheap out on the processor etc.
well for me ill stay till the new phone tht has rumored news of 4.5'' ,2ghz quadcore,very slim.i started wiv nokia the brick phone wiv antenna an tht was some dream phone those times everyone likd it tht way(no hightek)but i an all moved we never stickd to one piece atleast in my case..so its all abt style an future..may b soon wll use some holograph chip instead of touch phones
Agree with op, ideally I'd like a sgsIII which is same size as orig sgs, but with a screen the full size of phone. Shame it won't happen.......
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Doesnt seem my suggestion to Samsung worked so well..
http://www.swedroid.se/43774/losa-rykten-kring-samsung-galaxy-s3-en-kommande-uberandroid/#comments
Use google translate since its on swedish..
4" Screen Optimum... neither more nor less... I would never choose a phone bigger than 4"
I love My SGS....
A good article.
http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25750/The_Galaxy_Note_confirms_it_people_want_larger_screens
It jokes about the "optimal" iphone 3.5 incher.
YES. People like Galaxy Note.
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This is so true. At first i thought "damit is that thing big, i should bring it back to store" but when i put it in my pocket it fits and i can walk run and jump with the note in my pocket. So for me its the best phone ever until now iv'e ever had. I love the scree size, if i compare it to the holy iphone i have to laugh everytime about the size..... Its so cute this little iphone thing. I could give it to childrens who can play with it in a sandbox.
Exactly. Those "tech bloggers" should be making fun of people trying to use their "revolutionary" smartphone's functions on a tiny, heavy and fragile 3.5 incher instead...
I hardly ever played any games on my EVO but thats all I do on my Note!!
It simply kicks ass!! Fun times!!
All the reviewers are Jabronis.....perfect size the note is ....especially if you have big hands like me ....cant stand anything else will never go back.....
On-screen controls in games always felt wrong on those small 3.5" phones.. on the S2 they felt better.. on the note they make sense..
sure smaller is sometimes better.. but when packing all this power into a device biggish is good
5.3" aint that big either, just a tad bigger then my wallet but alot thinner.
i followed some links in that blogg and came onto another planet where i was told the android UI makes us need larger screens cos else we wouldn't see anything if android got higher res.. font-size? bigger icons? felt like easy fixes...
kinda feels like iphonE lovers just digs deeper and deeper into something to hold on to.. to make them feel "i did the right choice, my phone is the best"
sad truth is my sister loves the Note but felt she couldn't buy it cos its to big.. she would feel looked at and laughed at.. so she settled with the S2.
i often tell ppl if they are not into computers, etc when they ask if they should buy an iphone or Note to buy an iphone, the safe no-one will laugh at your choice and no-one will question why. its kinda like putting on pants, no one will ask you why.
sorry for the rant..
Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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people want larger screens
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... or people want a stylus and Apple may have to eat SJ's words if they want to catch up.
Apparently a lot of Asian markets like the Note because it's easier to input characters than a keyboard based interface.
Personally, any larger form factor and it would be difficult to fit in my jeans pocket.
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Awesome. Hope the note 2 or 3 has a slightly bigger screen. 6 inches would be even more awesome
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
i remember a point when I said 5" is the most any phone should go to. well, now I do believe the limit is 6" since anything bigger than that is a tablet fully at that point.
man i want a 6" phone or a SAMOLED+ HD tablet with telephony
I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
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I have to admit - i bought the Note without trying it first. When it arrived, i unboxed it and was terrified...
My first impression ? Oh my god, what have i done...but it took two days of using - and now i don't even notice the size. What's more - i don't really mind the size anymore, it feels normal, and is very useful.
iPhone's 3,5" was nice - 3-4 years ago. After that i moved to 4,3" HD7 and now to 5,3" Note. Bigger IS better here, especially with superior AMOLED screen.
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I can tottaly relate, I bought it blindly like you :-D
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I also almost regret my Note but after 2 days ... I was just hooked
I think, it's not like people want large screen, it's just it fit some people needs (like watching movies, browsing etc)
Yeah there's still more room in my pocket for something bigger.
But not my jean pockets lol. I don't know how you guys can put this phone in your jean pockets. And I want a full usb port or 2 on it. The more things it can do like a netbook, the better.
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This is more a rant than an article.
The note does not confirm that "people want larger screens". What it confirms is that some people want larger screens.
The claim that "Android phones go for the larger screen" is also not correct. There are many Android phone manufacturers and many models, of all shapes and sizes. Search using gsmarena finds 185 Android models with sceeen of size 3.2" or smaller.
I've got the largest hands in the whole town so the NOTE feels average to me.
Sometimes I even think, maybe this should be a little larger like 5.5inches. But now I've equipped the NOTE with the TPU case. Its quite protective, has a very grippy sides and it has a KICKSTAND!!!
But with the case on, I have some trouble slipping it into some pockets (jeans mainly).
So after pondering a bit, I think Samsung should make the NOTE with a kickstand, and shave off the bezel from the top and bottom portions.
OR
Make it smaller (from 147 x 83mm; 5.3inch) to 145mm x 79mm (shorter, little less wide, 5.1inch). It needs to shave off some of the bezel, for the premium aspects.
Though my biggest problems is that:
-Back and Menu buttons should be physical (its too damn easy to accidentally press them; frustrating when you accidentally exit an App and have to start from scratch)
-They should position the volume rocker on the right side and make it clickier (like the Nexus S)
-They should position the power button on the top and make it larger and clikier (like the Nexus S)
-Trade the position of Back and Menu button; and hitting the Menu button should bring the contexual menu's on the bottom and the search bar on the top.
If Samsung hired me for a prototype, my device would outsell any competitors!
I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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I'm also for shaving off the Bezels but to have instead a larger screen by keeping the same overall size.
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---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?
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Agreed, but only if the kept the same form factor as they have now, but getting the screen bigger by stretching it all the way to the edges, in other words, almost no bezel.
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I think the idea of 6 inches with the same form factor is great all they would then need to do is increase the resolution as the pixel density will not compete with the likes of Sony Arc S or some of the other 4-4.5 HD screens.
If they did both of these and then made even better stylus apps and support. Then I think it would be game over even for some of the tablet market.
One a separate NOTE, does anyone know if the Note2 is confirmed?
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---What are your thoughts on the kickstand?
Should it be on the device, or on the case?
(If its on the case, it means you need to use a case, meaning the overall size is increased and its harder to draw/place into pockets.)
---What are your thoughts on the Navigational Buttons?
On-screen? all physical? all capacitive? or have the Home physical and the rest capacitive?
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I had a kickstand on my HD7. Thought it was nice - at first. Later on...i never even used it. Phone would just fall down, and it was impossible to use it with any cable connected ( earphones ) cause it would - again - fall.
I like the idea of a kickstand, but i think it might be a bit hard to make it stable enough on such a large phone.