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Dear All,
I have seen this in the about xda forum. But it appears that most of the Gene users don't read any other thread apart from the Gene upgarding etc. forum.
You might want to read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539407.
Its high time you take care of your chefs, trust me if you don't, the only one to lose will be you not the chef(s).
I can tell two instances:
1. krazy had a really bad personal problem (his accomodation), but most did not read it or did not care to worry about it, instead continued their demands.
2. ankit360 has not recieved a single donation till date! can you believe it.
I do not say that donating is mandatory, but c'mon guys, you are getting so many great stuffs from the chefs / geeks in this forum.
To be blunt with you, where is the gratitude????
[And if you say you can't afford, c'mon - you are not using a Nokia 1110i, you are using a 10K mobile]
Sorry if I sound rude.
Dear Addicted, i really feel for you man in my heart. You think so much about us, and this forum and its members in general. I am glad we have you in this forum
ANKIT AND SUMIT deserves it!!
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Dear Addicted, i really feel for you man in my heart. You think so much about us, and this forum and its members in general. I am glad we have you in this forum
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And I am lucky to have you .
Otherwise I would have sold my Gene and gone to some other forum (HTC of course).
@deathgame:
And so does each and every fab members of this forum, always remember:
1. Ramersonw first got us hooked to cooking and created the method for determining old / new Gene.
2. vaibhav created an automatic gene verifier (poor guy, doesn't even get thank you's !!!).
3. BesFen: Made cooking a walk in the park.
4. Zelalat: He was the one who ported a M2D ROM for new Gene (If I am not wrong). Lomlom was the cooker of the original.
[WOW MY HISTORY IS GOOD ]
And of course guys like you, karan and all the cooks, who has kept this forum one of the most happening device forum around.
Hope users start appreciating your efforts rather than demanding .
We should definitely take care of our chefs and one more thing we should also take care of olipro & orefkov bcs its because of them all the fun we are having nowadays.....Sumit, Ankit, Ramersonv, Basha, Lomlom, A2X, Nirvana, Bepe....(Sorry if i forgot someone) they all have done a remarkable job in GENE section....
BTW 1 day while chatting with Sumit I offered him technical support for his Pc/ Lappy as i m a hardware eng.
I m gonna donate Sumit N Ankit and wish to donate to olipro too but unfortunately i don hv a credit card
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We should definitely take care of our chefs and one more thing we should also take care of olipro & orefkov bcs its because of them all the fun we are having nowadays.....Sumit, Ankit, Ramersonv, Basha, Lomlom, A2X, Nirvana, Bepe....(Sorry if i forgot someone) they all have done a remarkable job in GENE section....
BTW 1 day while chatting with Sumit I offered him technical support for his Pc/ Lappy as i m a hardware eng.
I m gonna donate Sumit N Ankit and wish to donate to olipro too but unfortunately i don hv a credit card
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Thtat's really great (but I honestly don't think that I should be mentioned with the pple you have named).
I also wanted to donate to ramersonw and to be frank, before every one to xda, but I also don't have a credit card.
I would request all pple who care about this forum to bump up this thread once in a while. As you can see, I do not have my TD yet (and hence visiting this forum regularly), but once I got it, my visits will ultimately be next to nil.
Thank you,
You folks are really fabulous, and that include YOU!
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To be blunt, do you notice how many pple feel like us (even in the original thread).
BTW @everyone, you do not need to donate to show your appreciation. A praise, being less demanding is good enough (perhaps). Understand that these guys have a personal and professional life and they honestly don't OWE US ANYTHING. They are sharing their knowledge and creations with us because they are generous enough to do so. So appreciate it and ACKNOWLEDGE it.
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i m realy thanks Ramersonv who create first kitchen for new gene BTW where is Ramersonv nowadays ? I really wish to donate money to some ppl but don't have much money. if anybody reference any job for system administration in mumbai let me know its help me a lot rather then donating money .
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ankit360 said:
vaibhav_batra_the_techguy said:
i m realy thanks Ramersonv who create first kitchen for new gene BTW where is Ramersonv nowadays ? I really wish to donate money to some ppl but don't have much money. if anybody reference any job for system administration in mumbai let me know its help me a lot rather then donating money .
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Hey buddy, please please please send your cv to haree. He is right now running a placement agency. And since he was in Gene once, I KNOW he appreciates your contribution.
. Do let me know whether you contacted him or not.
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I'm still here (with a less contribution, I know.). Almost every day I see the forum and sometimes post something(all PMs that I receive I respond soon or later). Since the beginning of the year I have made many trips (to work) and have little time at home (my wife hates it.) to cook and try new things. Yet I'm still here in the forum.
BTW there should be THANK YOU button
@All the chefs
Folks, have you checked this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557152
I have started this thread because I believe it would be a crying shame to lose the skill of Bin4ry from the freex10 team.
I am positive if everyone was to donate a small amount, 5 or 10 of your currency, we would collectively be able to in effect purchase the x10 and let Bin4ry keep it.
All donations are to be made to Bin4ry this thread is here only to see how much we can raise to let Bin4ry keep his x10 and continue in the development of the phone.
This is purely down to choice if YOU want to no one is forcing you, if enough can not be raised I will see what I can do but please help if you can no matter how small and post here you intention.
Please help, we need Bin4ry and his skills TARGET 200
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THIS IS NOT A GUARANTEE NOR DOES IT FORM ANY PART OF A GUARANTEE, this pledge is merely if you want to, and that you understand it we only give Bin4ry the option to continue developing on the x10 when he wishes. Instead of losing him all together he will continue to develop when his time allows. This is nothing more than a gesture from us none devs and a way of us helping a dev for a change. BUT PLEASE DO NOT THINK THIS WILL GUARANTEE ANYTHING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T other than Bin4ry will still be able to develop for us when he wishes.
Thanks
He said himself he just wants to move on to a new challenge.. Leave him be
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He said himself he just wants to move on to a new challenge.. Leave him be
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Agreed. He wants to move on.
EDIT: According to chiefy009, Bin4ry would stay if you can raise enough money. I can donate USD $10.
Had a message from Bin4ry he will stay if we raise enough. I will donate 20sterling once we reach the total donations I will notify Bin4ry and we can make donations
200 needed I will donate 20
Only 180 needed easy if people can manage 5-10 each
Come on lets not lose a Dev like bin4ry
This thread had been cancelled until I had a message form Bin4ry please pledge what you can if you want to keep Bin4ry trying to crack the x10 along with Jerpela, Z and the others
once all pledges have been made I will either make up the difference or we can just click donate on Bin4ry
I'll give in £10 (British) if he would stay
Ill throw in 20 dollars canadian
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I give £20 (British)
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Thankyou
So far £50 British and 20dollars we will be there in no time
$20 US from me.
OMG, you guys are really crazy aren't you?
As i said this is a nice idea, but i'm still not sure if i should feel comfortable with getting money from you just for staying with my X10.
Offcourse:
As i said, if you can manage to clear my account balance i will stay, as promised.
But are you REALLY sure that this is needed? And are you REALLY sure that you know that i cannot make any promises (except i will not stop working on X10!)
There will never be any promise that the X10 will get cracked fully and that the bypass will function fully!
I just want to clear this before accepting money from you guys
Best Regards
Bin4ry
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OMG, you guys are really crazy aren't you?
As i said this is a nice idea, but i'm still not sure if i should feel comfortable with getting money from you just for staying with my X10.
Offcourse:
As i said, if you can manage to clear my account balance i will stay, as promised.
But are you REALLY sure that this is needed? And are you REALLY sure that you know that i cannot make any promises (except i will not stop working on X10!)
There will never be any promise that the X10 will get cracked fully and that the bypass will function fully!
I just want to clear this before accepting money from you guys
Best Regards
Bin4ry
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Bin4ry we are aware but we stand more chance of it being cracked with you sticking around, we would do the same to keep J, Z maxfron and all the others, the x10 doesnt have that many devs and to lose one of your skill would be damaging to its chances, if enough of us are willing and get close within the next 2 weeks what ever is left i will try to make up end of the month.
I said that figure was 200 is this correct ??
If i could code i would and i probably wouldnt do this, but i cant so this is my way of helping and everyone else's
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Bin4ry we are aware but we stand more chance of it being cracked with you sticking around, we would do the same to keep J, Z maxfron and all the others, the x10 doesnt have that many devs and to lose one of your skill would be damaging to its chances, if enough of us are willing and get close within the next 2 weeks what ever is left i will try to make up end of the month.
I said that figure was 200 is this correct ??
If i could code i would and i probably wouldnt do this, but i cant so this is my way of helping and everyone else's
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Ok,
but still i don't know if i should feel comfortable with that.
See others like J,Z etc. (you named them), are working hard on this too. And they won't get anything. So i think it simply is not really fair!
See:
I decided to leave, to find a new phone and play with new things.
Others like J&Z are still developing hard for you and others.
Now i will get an amount of money, because i decided to go and offcourse i can not afford a new phone without selling the old one, and they won't get because they still stay here.
See my problem? Yes i understand well the goal is just to help me stay here AND have a new phone. And i really think that this idea is really good and nice!
AND i appreciate that many people here would donate their hard worked money to me!
But the above problem will stay, others will feel skipped or atleast feel a little sad. It seems like they will be "punished" because they stay here.
THATS my problem with the donation thing to be honest
And be sure, with j&z you have 2 real good developers here, you don't need much you just need GOOD ones
Best Regards
Andreas
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Ok,
but still i don't know if i should feel comfortable with that.
See others like J,Z etc. (you named them), are working hard on this too. And they won't get anything. So i think it simply is not really fair!
See:
I decided to leave, to find a new phone and play with new things.
Others like J&Z are still developing hard for you and others.
Now i will get an amount of money, because i decided to go and offcourse i can not afford a new phone without selling the old one, and they won't get because they still stay here.
See my problem? Yes i understand well the goal is just to help me stay here AND have a new phone. And i really think that this idea is really good and nice!
AND i appreciate that many people here would donate their hard worked money to me!
But the above problem will stay, others will feel skipped or atleast feel a little sad. It seems like they will be "punished" to stay here.
THATS my problem with the donation thing to be honest
And be sure, with j&z you have 2 real good developers here, you don't need much you just need GOOD ones
Best Regards
Andreas
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yes but they get donations from many of us and buy new hardware and software with it, over a period of time the donations will all even out, allow us to do our bit to help freex10, by helping devs like you stay with the project and still get what you want a new phone
this is us mere mortals way of helping and doing our bit
£50 sterling
$40 dollars
and counting
lets be a bit realistic here, sure bin4ry leaving us is a big loss but there is a reason that hes getting a new phone.
he's simply tired of the x10 and want to explore something else I suppose, which means he wont have any motivation to spend any time on the x10 at all.
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lets be a bit realistic here, sure bin4ry leaving us is a big loss but there is a reason that hes getting a new phone.
he's simply tired of the x10 and want to explore something else I suppose, which means he wont have any motivation to spend any time on the x10 at all.
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and you are Bin4ry? Don't speak for him! And maby start read before post, Bin4ry is saying that he like to keep working if we can help him, but he feel bad against the other devs like J & Z etc. But IMO J & Z got a lot of donation so I don't think you should feel bad for it Bin4ry..
Xperia
Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted
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lets be a bit realistic here, sure bin4ry leaving us is a big loss but there is a reason that hes getting a new phone.
he's simply tired of the x10 and want to explore something else I suppose, which means he wont have any motivation to spend any time on the x10 at all.
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Sssssshhhhh not donating why post?
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guys calm down, ofcourse its your choise to donate or not.
according to me its just a waste of cash and to be honest, I kinda feel sorry for bin4ry to have all this pressure of you guys donating for him just to stay.
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guys calm down, ofcourse its your choise to donate or not.
according to me its just a waste of cash and to be honest, I kinda feel sorry for bin4ry to have all this pressure of you guys donating for him just to stay.
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Its not pressure. We donate to j and z do they feel pressure? NO
Why post to cause problems? You don't agree that's up to you but why post about it no one cares.
Once we get enough pledges then we will offer it to bin4ry because we are happy to do it no other reason. If you aren't move along simple really
LET ME STRESS PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO
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Its been fun on Arc/S Community on XDA
Cheers to all Arc/S users. The Sexiest Device we ever had. Sleek Design, Handy and Handful device for a Mid Range its pretty Cool.
Upon using the Phone for few months I am still love this other mid range phone out there.
Checking every 5 hrs on XDA and spending many time reading the Arc/s thread. I did developed a ROM though I discontinued it coz of some Annoying dev's out there who don't want any competition about the roms. I mean the site was intended for us to Share and Experiment with our handset. The only thing worked out is my Swap Thread and I really have good time with it and a company notice me then proposed to Buy my developing Swapler app and I give thanks all to XDA forum. I truly appreciate the Motive of setting this forum up and the Moderators on Arc/S are very nice to the users.
Before I leave the Arc/S community I will just make Roms for my Fellow Filipino mates with Chaos. I was still wanting to develop good roms here. I was planing to Tandem with Chaos to make such good roms for Arc/s. But I guess some troll will be Intimidating our Release and again Fire will spark over and over again so I got sick of these (Kid/Infant Attitude) as I guess Iridaki will Agree with me.
I will post my Creations on Android Section from this point. I will make with add Swapler and realease for free but its still on Approval.
Its been fun. I hope moderators will automatically delete Irrelevant topic of Troll here. Hammer theme with Chuck Norris :victory:
Its just when Free sharing become business donation to others.
Ciao Arc/s
My Works: The Arctic Rom (Discontinued)
Swapper: Swapper [Root Users] Reduce Lag and Save Ram
Moving to Razr and SGN.
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Its been fun on Arc/S Community on XDA
Cheers to all Arc/S users. The Sexiest Device we ever had. Sleek Design, Handy and Handful device for a Mid Range its pretty Cool.
Upon using the Phone for few months I am still love this other mid range phone out there.
Checking every 5 hrs on XDA and spending many time reading the Arc/s thread. I did developed a ROM though I discontinued it coz of some Annoying dev's out there who don't want any competition about the roms. I mean the site was intended for us to Share and Experiment with our handset. The only thing worked out is my Swap Thread and I really have good time with it and a company notice me then proposed to Buy my developing Swapler app and I give thanks all to XDA forum. I truly appreciate the Motive of setting this forum up and the Moderators on Arc/S are very nice to the users.
Before I leave the Arc/S community I will just make Roms for my Fellow Filipino mates with Chaos. I was still wanting to develop good roms here. I was planing to Tandem with Chaos to make such good roms for Arc/s. But I guess some troll will be Intimidating our Release and again Fire will spark over and over again so I got sick of these (Kid/Infant Attitude) as I guess Iridaki will Agree with me.
I will post my Creations on Android Section from this point. I will make with add Swapler and realease for free but its still on Approval.
Its been fun. I hope moderators will automatically delete Irrelevant topic of Troll here. Hammer theme with Chuck Norris :victory:
Ciao Arc/s
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Even though I don't know much about your work or your support for the Arc / Arc S, it's sad to see guys leaving thanks to a bunch of morons that's envy on other guys quality work. Yes, your SWAP application is joy and quality (at the same time) that has saved me a lot of times when struggling to make ICS worth my time, and to avoid making this too fanboyish - I wish u all luck with whatever you now are going to do!
Thanks for your support, Patambiz! And a lot of greetings (hopefully) from the Arc community.
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Hey guys,
The rules are rules and indeed, they have been getting heavily enforced in here of late, in regards to the whole 'pay for a pre-release full feature Rom' of Monx and iHackers.
Alright, so you need to donate to get the latest version of the ROM? I'll hold my hand up and say I've never done that, nor do I care, once xposed is on top of a stock rom with a few preinstalled performance mods, I'm happy. I find most 'contributor' versions to have trivial features I am personally happy to live without until they are fully tested anyway.
As it stands at the moment, at least with my 2 LB roms of choice, one has stopped developing his ROM and the other has the thread locked.
This post will possibly get locked, deleted, I'll be warned or banned, but frankly. Heavy handed tactics from some of the mods are KILLING the development of the Z1.
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If you need to donate to get a rom it's never good. Devs shouldn't ask for money here.
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If you need to donate to get a rom it's never good. Devs shouldn't ask for money here.
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I'm just saying it could be handled with a little more grace, rather than literally exiling experienced mods, I mean, you might be the only mod left in here at this rate krabappel
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I thought XDA mods did pretty well. Why would you donate to receive a beta version of the rom? Put it this way, you PAID to TEST beta work from the developer. Be it whatever amount of the donation is. Infact, frankly speaking, at this point the meaning "donate" and "purchasing" does not make any difference at all. That goes without saying that the rom isn't own by them, they just tweaked and add little features over the roms, however the source is ultimately belongs to sony.
When you donate to get a rom/features (or whatsoever you called it) is like defeating the purpose of open-source. As we all know, Android is open-source, if you have tweak or something better than the original source, its a given that you should share to benefit everyone. Again, donate should come from the will of the donator, if you get what I mean.
Trust me, if you donate to "some" developer, when a new flagship comes out, with your money they will purchase the product and as a result, you will still lose a developer. Of course, I'm not discouraging donation, some developer truly deserve a drink or more. Ultimately, the money is yours, decide whatever you decide to do with it.
Handle with grace? As far as I remember, the mod did hit a warning note to the developer. Isn't that sufficient?
No offense, had to let it out.
Summon @eagleeyetom for your concern.
Exactly guys...
I'm very sorry to hear they are stopping developing and if I started that avalanche - I'm fine with that.
I'm here for a quite long time, I'm working for community but there's many guys who worked and are working ten times better, faster and more than me and they never asked for a cent.
Whole purpose of open source is to share.
It's ridiculous to charge money for something that's free or just tweaked.
I mean we built PAC for XS and never asked for a money and that was compiled from a CM source, it wasn't stock ROM with a MODs...
Don't get me wrong, I found ihackers to be very good ROM but this is XDA, not playstore or any store...
If they don't want to develop and work without money, then we don't need them.
We have plenty developer who are willing to work without price tag on their ROMs or MODs...
NUT is here, krab is here, niaboc will soon be here...
We have great THEMErs and MODers here and we will survive
I just don't give a damm for that one who only came here to get our money...
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I'm just saying it could be handled with a little more grace, rather than literally exiling experienced mods, I mean, you might be the only mod left in here at this rate krabappel
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Lets say it was allowed to happen all over XDA.
It won't be long before the best features are reserved for those that pay.
Plus you'd get less quality and more crap because you'll get these little twats dishing out crap so that they can collect.
Now pretend that you had to pay $20 for xposed and $10 for every module that you use for it.
Would you be more or less happy than you are now?
And I don't know what you've been smoking, but the real development is only just beginning now that:
1. the broken camera is fixed after unlocking the bootloader and
2. full rw access to system works on 4.3 - thanks to @[NUT] , somebody who did alot of the epic development which paved the way for those roms you like so much.
It's not like that. Our purpose is not exiling or banning or whatever you call it the developers. Our decision wasn't taken lightly as without developers XDA would become yet another forum to talk about cats and ponies and we don't like it. Developers are the heart and soul of this site, but they have been given rules to follow and code of conduct, so it's more like bending them to get money. XDA gives a lot of options to show the appreciation (PayPal, BitCoin etc.) but paying to get early access is a no go and that was a main reason of closing these threads as you could all read in the closing message.
My Opinion is Dev's should not ask Money for ROMs.. donation is not a problem, but I saw some devs releasing a firmware for Money. If somebody pay him, he will give the link to user to download. So i say a forum like xda-developers must ban those f****** devs. i agree with Mods, they doing is rite.
Don't want to spam dev thread so I'll answer here...
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Well you can thank specially funky0308 for this. We had two brilliant Rom's he just screwed up. Monx even helped a lot with the fullroot and xposed issues... All this is heavily on my nerves as he don't even uses one of this Rom's
So I think we won't see any updates nor fresh and good Rom's for a long time. Double hard for all of us having the BL locked...
Criskelo is the only option. Bet someone will shut it down too...
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Mate, when you talking about someone or mentioning someone, tag him so he could reply to you.
I won't repeat same things over and over again - ask moderators who reported ihackers for not playing by the rules.
Ask those guys how many XDA users reported monx for same thing.
Nobody force them to stop developing, they decided they don't want to do that if they can't charge money for beta or what they called that - contributors version.
It's not mine rules, it's XDA rules.
@Nut never did such a stupid thing and he get enough donations to buy Z1 and be able to continue his work.
So please, don't blame me because someone else behaves like a little child...
As I said million times before - I found ihackers ROM great piece of software, same like monx ROM but when bunch of users report rules violation - something, obviously, isn't right
Some of us are a bit longer here and we are trying to help, not to force devs to quit.
But rules are rules and we must play by them.
If Doomlord, Niaboc, NUT, Vertigo, Krab and all other great developers can follow thise rules - then we should too.
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Don't want to spam dev thread so I'll answer here...
Mate, when you talking about someone or mentioning someone, tag him so he could reply to you.
I won't repeat same things over and over again - ask moderators who reported ihackers for not playing by the rules.
Ask those guys how many XDA users reported monx for same thing.
Nobody force them to stop developing, they decided they don't want to do that if they can't charge money for beta or what they called that - contributors version.
It's not mine rules, it's XDA rules.
@Nut never did such a stupid thing and he get enough donations to buy Z1 and be able to continue his work.
So please, don't blame me because someone else behaves like a little child...
As I said million times before - I found ihackers ROM great piece of software, same like monx ROM but when bunch of users report rules violation - something, obviously, isn't right
Some of us are a bit longer here and we are trying to help, not to force devs to quit.
But rules are rules and we must play by them.
If Doomlord, Niaboc, NUT, Vertigo, Krab and all other great developers can follow thise rules - then we should too.
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Yes sir! That is so. Also to name other devs like Kali- from fxp RaymanFX (ok, he's on xperia S, but he did a very good job and he says many times, that he don't want donations). And when a dev do a good job, he will get donations from users who really appreciate their work.
Okay I think that what had to be said has been said. If you have any further questions, PM me.
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Hi guys...
We all saw what Sony policy to release new flagship device every six months did for development - basically - it screwed us.
Our main developers spread on XDA and future development for many devices could be very slow...
Also, we saw what happened with Xperia Z3 development, Z3 is great device but without best developers, themers or supporters there won't be custom ROMs, themes or MODs designed for it.
I talked to @niaboc79 and @serajr and offered some help.
My plan is to open on bounty thread, not for root, not for ROMs, themes or anything specifically...but to keep those two wizards in our team.
That way we'll get all the things I mentioned above.
The idea is to raise money or to be precise, donate money to Niaboc paypal account and support them.
That money will be for next Xperia devices, most likely called Xperia Z4. (two devices, one for Niaboc and one for Serajr).
This way we could be 100% sure we'll have best Xperia developers for the future.
If someone thinks we are doing a favor to them - think again.
ROM developing and MODs developing (Xposed modules) developing aren't easy and takes a lot of free time and we should be thankful and happy to have opportunity to keep those guys near.
XDA has changed, we aren't team anymore and that's not good...
But I believe we still have great guys here who knows what we are getting with this.
It's absolutely not important would you donate 1$ or 100$, what's important is your support.
We have hundreds, maybe even thousands of Xperia users who are planning to upgrade their device to Z4 and if we all support this idea and donate few bucks - we'll achieve our goal.
As I said, donation account will be Niaboc paypal account.
And I'm asking him to keep tracks about donations and post them here.
Thank you all for support!
I'm 100% sure we can do this and I'm 100% sure we are doing great thing.
If you are using Xperia Xposed by Serajr or eXistenZ or Xperia (no matter which one) you'll know I'm right
We all know who is Niaboc and who is Serajr, if you have any questions or what to ask them something (thread related) - I'm sure they'll response quickly.
@niaboc79 and @serajr
Could you please tell few words and confirm you are accepting this.
Thank you all.... And long live Xperia
We'll need all the resources in the future, among everything else - rooting method/exploit holes will be extremely hard to find and we need every help we can find.
I'll donate 40$ tomorrow, I hope there'll be many of us who'll join me...
Please, send your donations to Paypay account:
[email protected]
We'll keep tracks here, not to show who donate more but to say thank you to all who helped...
DONATIONS
@funky0308 - 30$
@lagania - 1$
TOTAL:
= 31$
You don't know who those two guys are?
Well, you are probably new Xperia users - so welcome to Xperia family.
Click on this @niaboc79 or watch this video (it's not latest but you'll get the picture who is this magician)
Sony Xperia Z3 ROM On Sony Xperia Z2 - eXistenz R…: http://youtu.be/G1JAzjQ0yM0
Same goes for @serajr
Watch this video and you'll understand why we are supporting this guy as well.
Serajr Xperia Xposed - Z3 Home "Hide Apps Drawer"…: http://youtu.be/SwtWSVOu0vc
This is just one of millions functions in this fantastic Xposed module.
I hope all goes well. Its a shame i cant donate i am only 14 yrs of age and i dont get lots of pocket money. I wish i could help.
Have a great rest of your day,
Thanks,
Mohamed
Totally agree!
It's just an honor for me to be remembered! Thank you so much buddy... you're amazing!
As I told you before and now again I confirm... whatever the outcome, all of you will have my full support, as I have always done in recent years.
And if xposed do not reach lollipop, things will be put into practice with oldschool modding method... smali editing!!
Long live Xperia development!
moman2000 said:
I hope all goes well. Its a shame i cant donate i am only 14 yrs of age and i dont get lots of pocket money. I wish i could help.
Have a great rest of your day,
Thanks,
Mohamed
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It's perfectly fine mate - this is support as well.
Sometimes few good words helps more then all the money of the world...
We are a community, that means that we must help others.
Serajr and me are working hard to bring you as much as we can but we need devices to work on.
The Xperia users doesn't have many developpers because Sony phones aren't as popular as Samsung or HTC.
I am motivated to keep supporting you so if all users are giving us even a few bucks we will be able to buy devices and work for you
Thanks
Cheers
funky0308 said:
It's perfectly fine mate - this is support as well.
Sometimes few good words helps more then all the money of the world...
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Thx, that means alot to me.
Sounds good
I do believe we should mostly prioratize Z2 in development still
Its growing and we should continue to contribute to it growing.
We have Omni Rom on the way along with Multi-Rom thanks to Myself5 and Oliver
Now even if these two dont get finished any time soon you can see proof of their contributions/hardwork in github toward other users
Perhaps these two deserve to be on the list @funky0308
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Sounds good
I do believe we should mostly prioratize Z2 in development still
Its growing and we should continue to contribute to it growing.
We have Omni Rom on the way along with Multi-Rom thanks to Myself5 and Oliver
Now even if these two dont get finished any time soon you can see proof of their contributions/hardwork in github toward other users
Perhaps these two deserve to be on the list @funky0308
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Absolutely agree...but we'll have to work hard on PR to kick that little greedy person in all of us to understand we can't continue without developmers support and to donate and support.
We saw last bounty thread (for Z2 buying), we hardly raised for two devices.
If you ask me, I would buy 20 devices and would give them to many developers and contributors...but...
If we add few devs more here, we will stuck at the beginning and failed.
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt.
When we raise more then 1000-1500$ I'll gladly add few devs more to list.
This is day two and still no informations about donations (read : no donations for now)...
XDA isn't about paying someone to get root or ROM, we should support our developers every day, with a simple word or a few bucks - only then we'll have great community that could work together.
It's not about money but it's ridiculous to expect devs will buy every Xperia Sony release (even he didn't planned that) just to work "for us".
funky0308 said:
Absolutely agree...but we'll have to work hard on PR to kick that little greedy person in all of us to understand we can't continue without developmers support and to donate and support.
We saw last bounty thread (for Z2 buying), we hardly raised for two devices.
If you ask me, I would buy 20 devices and would give them to many developers and contributors...but...
If we add few devs more here, we will stuck at the beginning and failed.
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt.
When we raise more then 1000-1500$ I'll gladly add few devs more to list.
This is day two and still no informations about donations (read : no donations for now)...
XDA isn't about paying someone to get root or ROM, we should support our developers every day, with a simple word or a few bucks - only then we'll have great community that could work together.
It's not about money but it's ridiculous to expect devs will buy every Xperia Sony release (even he didn't planned that) just to work "for us".
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True but i was planning on trying to get my self a Xperia Z4 primarily for development reasons.(you can ask people who know me if you want proof)
My plan is to build cwm and twrp for Z4 with the help of @Abhinav2
Oliver im not sure if he would want to dev for Z4 and same goes for myself5 but if we have them onboard we can atleast expect multi-rom/cm11,cm12/Omni-Rom
@funky0308
If we are going to get devs devices then we need to get atleast the foundation devs
These devs are the ones who get the initial important things out there and doomlord is an example of this, for Z2 he brought very worthwhile devs to Xperia Z2 and faux was one, his contributions here are large
If you want proof this is for development and not greed then i can give you proof
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True but i was planning on trying to get my self a Xperia Z4 primarily for development reasons.(you can ask people who know me if you want proof)
My plan is to build cwm and twrp for Z4 with the help of @Abhinav2
Oliver im not sure if he would want to dev for Z4 and same goes for myself5 but if we have them onboard we can atleast expect multi-rom/cm11,cm12/Omni-Rom
@funky0308
If we are going to get devs devices then we need to get atleast the foundation devs
These devs are the ones who get the initial important things out there and doomlord is an example of this, for Z2 he brought very worthwhile devs to Xperia Z2 and faux was one, his contributions here are large
If you want proof this is for development and not greed then i can give you proof
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Hehe....no one needs prof, we all know you are and who are all the guys you have mentioned.
This idea and thread is attempt to keep two guys who are very frisky on Z2, stock based development.
After hours and hours of corresponding and talking to XDA users we agreed to one thing - we need LB dev support.
I'm not trying to say Doom isn't important, he is legend of Xperia devices and without his work many things we are using now would not be possible.
As soon as we collect founds for two devices we'll continue to collect money for other developers but we are known to be extremely difficult when we should support devs and give something back...
So, lets wait and see what will happen here.
If someone wants to say "here's xx $ for doomlord" - I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if I added five devs to this bounty, our money would spread all around and we wouldn't do anything...
funky0308 said:
Hehe....no one needs prof, we all know you are and who are all the guys you have mentioned.
This idea and thread is attempt to keep two guys who are very frisky on Z2, stock based development.
After hours and hours of corresponding and talking to XDA users we agreed to one thing - we need LB dev support.
I'm not trying to say Doom isn't important, he is legend of Xperia devices and without his work many things we are using now would not be possible.
As soon as we collect founds for two devices we'll continue to collect money for other developers but we are known to be extremely difficult when we should support devs and give something back...
So, lets wait and see what will happen here.
If someone wants to say "here's xx $ for doomlord" - I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if I added five devs to this bounty, our money would spread all around and we wouldn't do anything...
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In which case bring [NUT] he is someone who can create recoveries for locked bootloader
Im mostly trying to get on the Z4 development bandwagon because i want to learn and contribute, Even though it isnt what your looking for it still helps those who you may not, Xperias always have strong LB support anyways, Xperia S and Z2 are examples i know very well and Xperia S didnt have any of this bounty stuff, it came along with time
Where doomlord usualy provides the first recovery and root methods ill try to since he is so busy and ive found life is hard when no one is there to do the work you cant do.
As for anything else with Z4 ill try to port multi-rom if Myself5 or Oliver wants to help however im not a dev nor a great dev but itll happen with time and patience
Also need i remind you that Xperia Z4 will most likely be releasing with Lollipop so even LB stuff will be hard, you would have to hotboot a recovery just to flash supersu and im not even sure if that can be done on locked bootloader and we definatly do need somone who can find and exploit if this is the case
We may be able to use adb to root but ill have to see on how adb acts in the situations i put it in.
I know you know of my capabilities with LB once i have recovery access @funky0308
Edit- if anyone @[NUT] is important for LB support
Grt initiation @funky0308. I see this is a good opportunity to bring devs to z4.. I have to agree on @Envious_Data on one thing.. Devs like NUT, Olivier, Myself5 are important to be on the list coz first thing, any user on xda will be needing root(lb), a recovery for lb, and custom roms for ub(cm/aosp) and ofc stock based roms.. I am not against niaboc or serajr.. They are grt devs n i am a big fan of their work.. I'm just trying to expand the list since we would be needing more devs in Z4.. I wish i could be any help in donating, but i am still a student. But atleast i hope we can contribute as a community and preserve good devs on xperia.. I remember a lot of good devs moving to sammy/htc.. One such example was letama.. You all remember him.. I suggest adding a few more devs like the ones i mentioned above to the list so that we can improve development.. Again, its just my opinion.. Peace..
I know why I said two names only and why I said those names.
Just check all bounties we had - we were struggling to raise money for two devices (and we failed, Niaboc had to add 60-70% to buy Z2)
I would like to have 10 000$ and to be able to buy device for everyone.
If we expand this list to ten names we won't do anything.
Who wants to support this - support, who don't want - just don't...
We have many great devs and contributors, it's impossible to add them all.
I know who is NUT, I know who is doom but if we want to be fair - we'll need someone as @jcase to find exploit in firmware.
For now, Z4 isn't even announced, so please, if you want to support our devs - support them.
It's ridiculous to talk about firmware which isn't announced yet...
We don't know what should we expect...and that's not subject of this thread.
I don't want to buy anything i just want to support guys who gave so much in last few years.
Even if they don't do a single thing on a next Xperia I still want to say tnx.
That's the purpose of this thread not to buy developer who will work 8 hour shift for us.
I said that in OP, this isn't root bounty, it's not ROM developing bounty or anything similar.
It's thread where we can show our appreciation to guys who work on Xperia devices and did amazing things...
So please, please, please....stop doing this - donate few bucks if you can...
This isn't true XDA spirit guys, we shouldn't buy developers, this isn't market..
We are supporting our developers no matter what, we are helping them to buy new device and we are trying to keep them near us.
That way they'll develop and we'll all have something from that.
Thanks
funky0308 said:
I know why I said two names only and why I said those names.
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Thanks
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Like said atleast try to get the initial important people first, you cant realy do much with LB if you dont have root or recovery for it, same goes with UB, you need a recovery either way.
Im sceptical since the device will release with lollipop.
Then we can go for other people.
Envious_Data said:
Like said atleast try to get the initial important people first, you cant realy do much with LB if you dont have root or recovery for it, same goes with UB, you need a recovery either way.
Im sceptical since the device will release with lollipop.
Then we can go for other people.
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Mate, please tell me, or show me when doom find exploit and rooted LB Xperia.
Do same for NUT please.
NUT is great guy but he was using phils and dooms work.
He did awesome things, just like doom but jcase did what you are talking about, not doom, nor NUT.
We'll see what will happen.
This is thanks thread to guys who did fantastic job.
Number of tnx on latest ROM by Niaboc and lateat Xposed module by Serajr said everything.
We will need many developers here, that's true.
So donate 40-50$ and lets expand this list.
I will donate today and I'm perfectly fine with list expand but lets show we are really on this.
When this bounty shows 500-600$ we can talk further...
It's easy to write names but I haven't seen a single dollar to confirm your statement.
We need devs...yes, we need them, show that, don't only write names.
funky0308 said:
We'll see what will happen.
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Fair enough, atleast you understand my current point.
Lets wait and see.
My last point mostly acted on LB support.
Envious_Data said:
Fair enough, atleast you understand my current point.
Lets wait and see.
My last point mostly acted on LB support.
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As I said...
This was my plan...
But if anyone wants to donate to someone else (here), that's perfectly fine and it's more then welcome.
Lets start and buy (raise money) first two devices...if we can buy more then two devices - fantastic...
No one would be happier then me if we could buy 20 devices.. But lets start...
Every suggestion is welcomed, absolutely but lets keep this simple and lets have fun here...
funky0308 said:
As I said...
This was my plan...
But if anyone wants to donate to someone else (here), that's perfectly fine and it's more then welcome.
Lets start and buy (raise money) first two devices...if we can buy more then two devices - fantastic...
No one would be happier then me if we could buy 20 devices.. But lets start...
Every suggestion is welcomed, absolutely but lets keep this simple and lets have fun here...
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This may be planning way far ahead but im going to be buying a new device in a year and a half and i was thinking of creating a bounty list to atleast get [NUT] just because its not easy at all making recoveries for LB
Good idea @funky0308.. We should expand the list after we get more donations.. I agree wit u.. :thumbup: